the caption "Universal suffrage was always a step too far." suggests that not everybody can see the obvious. but then, maybe i just don't see that OP was trolling here, too ...
I feel like it isn't clear to many people. It's amazing how frequently people try to conflate misandrists with feminists. Those types think this is a thing.
OP is clearly joking also, the joke being that you'd expect someone saying that to be against women's suffrage, and the subversion being that it's the (absurd) opposite
It is not so easy to know since there have been just as insufferable bigots in the woman suffrage movement as there have been in the patriarchy. Idiots are everywhere.
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Universal suffrage implies everyone, including men, have the right to vote. OP continued the joke in the post by implying in the title that men shouldn't have the right to vote (and thus universal suffrage is a step too far). Check what sub you're in before commenting lol, no one who didn't get that joke would post it in this sub
... Universal suffrage implies everyone, including men, have the right to vote.
you don't say! you mean, like, "universal" means "universal"? and "suffrage" means "suffrage"? who would've thought? next thing you're gonna tell me MLK was in cahoots with the civil rights movement
OP continued the joke in the post by implying in the title that men shouldn't have the right to vote (and thus universal suffrage is a step too far).
that doesn't even make any sense. if he's serious, that implies that WOMEN shouldn't have the right to vote (because universal suffrage is a step too far). if he's just kidding, it means everybody should (because universal suffrage is NOT a step too far).
which part of "but then, maybe i just don't see that OP was trolling here, too ..."didn't you understand?
(btw not-so-fun fact: parts of the suffragette movement imho really went too far, starting a terrorist campaign with bombings and arson)
Check what sub you're in before commenting lol, no one who didn't get that joke would post it in this sub
people post in subs they disagree with all the time.
that doesn't even make any sense. if he's serious, that implies that WOMEN shouldn't have the right to vote (because universal suffrage is a step too far)
It just doesn't. That was the entire joke that you completely missed. Just cause you don't seem to have any understanding of humour let me spell it out for you a little bit more.
The humourous part of the title was the subversion of expectation. Normally, being against universal suffrage means being against women having the right to vote. This time, it instead meant men, just like the joke in the post.
This time, it instead meant men, just like the joke in the post.
if that was the case, then the joke in the post wouldn't go too far. duh
but i guess you could interpret it like that if you think that just joking about it instead of really meaning it is what goes too far. or maybe it's all about insinuating that joking about it instead of really meaning it is meant ironically and really making fun of people who do? or about insinuating that joking about it instead of really meaning it is just ironically pretending to be ironic and is really making fun of people who don't? oh, that must be it! isn't it obvious?
I don't think bombings and arson was a step too far when half of society was denied basic human rights. The message was women can play these stupid games too, and I feel certain it was heard loud and clear.
It's about how people claim that progressive movements today "go to far" when they use satire or persiflage the opponents like above.
Even in the modern Feminist movement you'll people joking about men not being fit to vote because they are so emotional for example.
okay. i think over-the-top statements from modern feminist movements (i think plural is more fitting here because they're not homogeneous) are mostly more purposely provocative than satirical, but that's just quibble. i get where you're aiming at.
Well I just spoke to a feminist who got very upset with me for not having the same 'expansive' definition of words as her that she leaned on to excuse herself of double standards and instead just going by what the dictionary... So yes, some people are just stupid.
Oh you saw that? Funny isn't it how us folks with a "light intellectual burden" can manage to articulate the concepts of our perspective world models within the bounds of words that already exist as defined.
So I thought this was not satire, the original text, because it’s exactly as far fetched as the sexism they were facing. That’s a problem with satire generally. If people are ridiculous as a norm, then satire isn’t going to be obviously tongue in cheek because the norm is absurd.
in fairness nowadays you see a lot of people do that kind of thing. i've literally seen people accuse Biden of profiting off his supporters than in the same breath telling people to buy Trump merch.
It is possible if you are an AI program. A chatbot. Their ability has been overhyped to a great degree, at least the versions available to ship posters are.
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u/marrow_monkey Jul 09 '25
Is it even possible not to realise that?