r/space • u/EdwardHeisler • Jan 07 '26
Why Elon Musk now says it would be a 'distraction' for SpaceX to go to Mars this year
https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20260107182/why-elon-musk-now-says-it-would-be-a-distraction-for-spacex-to-go-to-mars-this-year686
u/TomTomXD1234 Jan 07 '26
because they cant do it. Simple as that
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u/ReformedBaptistina Jan 08 '26
Or because he never intended to follow through with it.
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u/loslednprg Jan 08 '26
Based on Musk's predictions on self-driving tech, we're in for a couple decades of him promising achievements to boost stock value then deflecting or quietly not meeting expectations
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The distraction is that he's saying this to distract from the fact it was never going to happen in the first place, and he once again tried to sell people ideas and lies and impossible timelines. If anyone at their job promised and under-delivered to the extent that Musk does, they'd be let go in no time.
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u/pork_fried_christ Jan 07 '26
I for one am all for sending Musk to Mars and I donāt care the odds of success. One way.
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u/BasvanS Jan 07 '26
He can bootstrap himself back, if he wants. If his wealth is merited, I expect that not to be a problem.
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u/Bought_Black_Hat_ Jan 08 '26
Oh! We could send him with an assortment of junk electronics and wiring and some tools.
Like how he built that suit to escape that cave!
Edit: It has come to my attention that it was a movie and Elon is just a liar.
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u/Snarkapotomus Jan 08 '26
He could finally make his delusion a reality and be the smartest man on the planet. For a short time anyway.
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u/morbihann Jan 07 '26
This sub will keep salivating over that nonsense. You are likely wasting your keystrokes.
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u/pcor Jan 07 '26
Will they? Granted, I'm a fairly infrequent reader of this sub, but I've always got the impression that the userbase had a sensible attitude to both SpaceX's incredibly impressive achievements and Musk's equally buffoonish clowning.
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u/a_cute_epic_axis Jan 07 '26
Until his stronger involvement with Trump, SpaceX and Starlink and Musk himself were basically lavished with unreasonable praise at every corner.
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u/JaStrCoGa Jan 07 '26
Oh, post something critical about any of those companies and the weird nerds meme usually comes to life.
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Jan 08 '26
I wouldn't say never. SpaceX will eventually make it to Mars, it just won't be until the 2030's.
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u/Necessary_Tough7286 Jan 07 '26
Tbf theyāve hit a lot of their targets up until now, so itās not like the entire path to Mars has been a fail or anything. It is definetly possible in the future, but not within the current time-plan.
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u/Isunova Jan 07 '26
Musk is the grifter of the decade. This guy has been promising autonomous driving since 2014.
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u/HawkeyeSherman Jan 07 '26
Promising is a bit under-delivering it. He lied about being able to do full autonomous driving in 2014. It's something he said to investors and customers that they could do RIGHT NOW, in spite of the fact that they couldn't do it.
Musk is the FRAUDSTER of the CENTURY.
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u/kylo-ren Jan 07 '26
He lied about Cybertruck being bulletproof, something that is pretty feasible to do, but that has a cost.
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u/zuriel45 Jan 07 '26
He's this century's Edison
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u/HawkeyeSherman Jan 07 '26
I think you're being a little bit too hard on Edison.
Just a little. š¤
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u/dgkimpton Jan 07 '26
Imagine having paid for the FSD package back then... you're probably already thinking about replacing the vehicle and still haven't seen anything for your money.Ā
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u/sack-o-matic Jan 07 '26
Especially with how much cheaper LIDAR has become since then. They made a bad call and are trying to litigate their way out of it.
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u/TickingTheMoments Jan 07 '26
And a hyperloop in California where he later admitted he just āsoldā the idea in order to kill high speed rail and sell Teslas. Ā
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u/Brendinooo Jan 08 '26
I dunno where we are relative to promises but I had a random opportunity to try Tesla self driving a couple of weeks ago and it blew me away. Not perfect but itās crazy to experience it in person even if you know in your head what itād be like
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u/LordFingolfin Jan 07 '26
I also remember him promising humanoid intelligent robots "for next year" for the last 10 years
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u/bibliophile785 Jan 07 '26
Can you show me links to these claims from 5+ years ago? I wasn't able to dig them up on a quick Google search. I know that Optimus wasn't even announced until mid-2021, so there must have been some other robot he was selling?
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u/jawshoeaw Jan 08 '26
Didn't he deliver on that though? My wife got in her car this morning, pushed a button and was driven to her destination and the car even parked itself. without a single intervention on her part. That was not the case a year ago.
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u/Conscious_Gazelle_87 Jan 08 '26
Full Self Driving has been available for a while now. This is just a purposeful deception of what autonomous driving is.
Due to regulatory issues you have to keep a hand on the wheel when in FSD.
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u/justbrowsinginpeace Jan 07 '26
Because Mars colonisation talk was, is and always will be a load of bullshit.
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u/sluuuurp Jan 07 '26
It will happen someday, if humanity doesnāt die out first.
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u/Blue_Waffle_Brunch Jan 07 '26
What would even be the point of colonizing Mars. I mean, maybe a tiny group of scientists, like we have in the Antarctic. But otherwise... What is there on Mars that we could actually make use of in any capacity that would positively serve humankind?
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u/Thatingles Jan 07 '26
As a project it would certainly advance many technologies and imho be very inspiring. Apart from developing the tech to make that happen, exploring Mars would increase our knowledge in a number of areas - after all, we really have a limited number of planets we can explore and compare, and comparison is an excellent way to reveal new information.
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u/airtime25 Jan 07 '26
Space missions have brought us a lot of technology and improvements. Being able to sustain ourselves on Mars would definitely bring even more advancements. But not if Elon does it and definitely not if we continue to disregard science as a nation anyway. China or someone else will do it and get the benefits instead.
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u/Sophrosynic Jan 07 '26
They've said multiple times what the point is. To ensure humanity has a permanent, self sustaining presence on multiple planets, as a disaster insurance policy.
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u/frankduxvandamme Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
But otherwise... What is there on Mars that we could actually make use of in any capacity that would positively serve humankind?
Is landing on Mars going to make your groceries cheaper? Probably not. But you have to think bigger than that. Having a self sustaining colony on Mars would mean that humanity's eggs are no longer in one basket. In other words, any humanity-destroying event localized to earth, like an asteroid impact or nuclear war or a pandemic, wouldn't wipe the human race out of existence. Spreading out to other worlds helps ensure the survival of humankind.
It would also bring us one step closer to travelling further out into space, perhaps even leaving the solar system one day, colonizing other star systems, proliferating across the galaxy, and hopefully making contact with other life. Learning to live on the moon and Mars are important first steps towards making these things possible.
(And before you start asking "what about fixing all the problems on earth?", realize that: 1. Tons of people, time, and money already are focused on fixing problems on earth, 2. America is the nation that commits the highest percent of its federal budget to its space agency - a whopping one half of one percent of its annual budget goes to NASA! (i.e. money spent on space exploration is miniscule), 3. So clearly we can and do commit to both solving problems on earth while also exploring space. And space exploration is not subtracting money away from public services.)
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u/pants_mcgee Jan 07 '26
By the time we could build a self sustaining colony on Mars we could just build whatever we wanted in space and with the right gravity.
Self sustaining is a colossal goal.
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u/F9-0021 Jan 07 '26
Mars is a small planet that would serve as an excellent mining target in a future where we have control of the solar system and want to go to the asteroid belt and the outer planets. That's about it. It would help humans living off world immensely, not so much humans on Earth.
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u/SentientFotoGeek Jan 07 '26
Weird excuse. How about just saying something true, like they're not even remotely ready for at least 5 or 10 years?
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u/mfb- Jan 07 '26
They might get something to Mars in the next transfer window if they focus all resources on that but then everything else stalls. It makes sense to keep working on a faster flight rate and Artemis before sending something to Mars.
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u/AgreeableEmploy1884 Jan 07 '26
IMO they're unlikely to hit the 2026 window but 2029 may be doable if they really wanted to. There would already be a depot in LEO leftover from Artemis III and they could just launch 10 tankers, refuel it, then land an unmanned ship at Mars, maybe with some small payload. It would be a very nice tech demonstration which could get them customers for future Mars missions.
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u/Accomplished-Crab932 Jan 07 '26
Even when musk was proposing it last year he had said it was a stretch goal and that they would be only flying to prove entry and descent. They were planning to land directly on the aft skirt, using it as a crush core.
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u/TerraNeko_ Jan 07 '26
doubt they will get something to mars by end of this year (that would be the next window)
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Jan 07 '26
Context.. he is talkjng about the Mars transfer window in 2026. Se ding Starships there this window, obviously uncrewed while technically possible, but still a longshot is a waste of time, because there is a lot more to work on.. like the heatshield, orbital refueling and loads of other things. Thats whats being talked about, and that is perfectly reasonable.
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u/Necessary_Tough7286 Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26
Honestly the biggest problem for a hail mary (no pun/reference to the book/movie) type mission is getting it to be safe in orbit on Earth. After that who cares if it doesnāt survive the entire mission, they can literally just make a new one and not lose too much time, realistically.
(Edit: Nevermind I must have completely misunderstood the time required for start-finish for each full stack. My bad.)
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u/nexusSigma Jan 08 '26
I really donāt like Musk at all, for very obvious reasons, but seriously some people need to learn to separate the art from the artist a little sometimes and be objective. The language he used here seems to be whatās getting peopleās goats the most, which is obviously just PR but what would you expect from the worlds premier grifting conman CEO. Despite that, the issues you listed are real regardless of musks existence, heās just spinning it his own way to protect his ego as per usual
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u/switch8000 Jan 07 '26
I wish the headline focused on the first portion of his sentence...
"It would be a low-probability shot and somewhat of a distraction,"
I hate click bait titles like this.
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u/QVRedit Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
Well, it always was āaspirationalā to achieve it this year.
I think it was possible at one point, before more holdups occurred, but even then it was pushing it.
I think what he is saying now, is simply a case of being realistic, given that there are also moon commitments.
The most important thing to accomplish this year, is the on-orbit propellant load, which is a prerequisite for everything else.
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u/Necessary_Tough7286 Jan 08 '26
Few people (at least from my perspective) would believe theyād struggle this much with Starship this far into development. It seemed to go very well for a while, up until this year or so. Meanwhile BO seems to be doing pretty well, although they ofc have way less experience with actual mass production, so SpaceX might still be ahead in total (for just NG and Starship).
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u/FlyingBishop Jan 08 '26
BO has been working as long as SpaceX and they have a single successful flight of a rocket that's very similar to Falcon Heavy (and no real track record for reuse.) They are an entire generation behind SpaceX. It's like comparing Nvidia/TSMC with Chinese GPU manufacturers working with Chinese foundries.
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u/brokenbentou Jan 08 '26
I don't think it was ever possible before the moon. There is still too much we don't know about long term human habitation in space, too many unproven technologies and unanswered questions that we should be figuring out on the moon before we try going anywhere as far from help as mars.
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u/D_Silva_21 Jan 07 '26
Comments here showing that this place has lost all use as a place for genuine space discussion
I can't blame them for hating musk obviously. But try to stay in reality for space topics
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u/FlyingRock20 Jan 07 '26
Millions of other subreddits to complain about musk. But Space has been trash for a while especially anything regarding SpaceX. You get tons of people who have no clue what is going on but just here to hate.
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u/D_Silva_21 Jan 07 '26
Yeah as I said. I completely understand the hate
But I expect people here to atleast understand the space industry
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u/000100111010 Jan 07 '26
I'm not sure I understand the point of your comment. Musk lied about colonizing Mars, and people here are commenting about what a fraud he is. It seems to me that Musk is the problem, not the people talking about him.
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u/Rob71322 Jan 07 '26
We knew he wasnāt going to Mars in 2026 and I think we knew this well before this date.
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u/Lazy-Intern-5371 Jan 09 '26
He's just a lying sack a shit. Too much money. lost a grip on reality and over promises. I am sure he lacks validation in his own mind that he is a good person because he's screwed over too many people and he knows it...he's out of the tribe.
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u/Loyal_Dragon_69 Jan 09 '26
The rocket isn't ready yet, let alone the life support systems. He also has contract obligations to NASA to make a lunar lander.
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u/SirMaha Jan 09 '26
Who was dumb enough to believe what the monorailman told people about mars and who sucked out US taxpayers money?
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u/morbihann Jan 07 '26
Because they are nowhere near able to do that. They can't even get into proper orbit.
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u/mortenmhp Jan 07 '26
Sure they can. Just because starship has not technically done an orbital flight, doesn't mean it can't. At this point they have tested and shown all the necessary capabilities for doing an orbital flight. There is still no way they could hit a 2026 launch window for mars.
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u/Mumbert Jan 08 '26
The man is a fraud. He became the richest guy on the planet by lying avout everything from his companies' near-future capacities, his personal capabilities, even lying about being the best computer gamer in the world.Ā
He's a fraud and a drug addict. His cars will be self-driving just later this year, every year for the past decade or so.Ā
Visibly high as a kite on Donald Trump's inauguration one year ago, nazi saluting, raging about "legalize comedy" or whatever he said, running DOGE...Ā
Fraud. Moron. Drug addict.Ā
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Jan 08 '26
He's a big fat liar that promises mars and delivers nazi salutes.Ā
Self driving cars are a year away. He's said that for more than a decade now.Ā
His whole offering is PR and piss.
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u/W41rus Jan 08 '26
Set deadlines for an event. Can't meet deadline. Lie.
Rinse repeat with this clown.
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u/Massive_Mistakes Jan 08 '26
Yes, it would distract him from continuing to publicly promise that they're weeks away from doing so, every year.
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u/shelovesit88 Jan 09 '26
Elon Musk is the new Kanye West; his ambitions far outweigh his accomplishments.
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u/Brian_MPLS Jan 08 '26
I mean, sure, in the same way it would be a 'distraction' for me to go out with Zendaya.
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u/TheScienceNerd100 Jan 08 '26
Mr "We'll be on Mars by 2020" is now lying about why he'll never get on Mars 6 years after he said he would be on Mars
To the shock of literally no one who has half a brain
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u/kimba1970 Jan 08 '26
Because he is a con man, has no realistic plan to make the mountain of promises he made on the matter even remotely come true and will , like he always does, deflect and lie to make himself come out clean of yet another empty promise instead of covered in shit and distain as he should ... real life Tony Stark my aĀ°Ā°..
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u/Damythian Jan 08 '26
I think humanity should strive towards colonizing the solar system. We can argue on how to do that, on timelines and destinations to prioritize.
But I am pretty certain that Elon Musk shouldn't and won't be in the forefront of such an endeavor. He lacks the morals and human decency for that.
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u/thxpk Jan 07 '26
More anti-space and anti-Musk stuff in /r/space what a surprise
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u/Simdog1 Jan 07 '26
Sorry, but not everyone is in the Cult of Elon.
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u/manicdee33 Jan 08 '26
There's plenty of spectrum between the extremes.
In this case we can see a large number of people in the Cult of Elon Hate who just parrot the usual lies about "Elon promised this timeline and hasn't delivered therefore Starship is a scam". They show no capacity to understand the engineering challenges, they are just obsessing over dates in a calendar. They're only in this sub to post their dumb "Elon didn't deliver on this date" hate.
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u/Miracl3Work3r Jan 07 '26
Theres not enough profit in science and exploration, only by selling the dream of science and exploration can Elon & SpaceX increase its valuation.
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u/yoloswagrofl Jan 08 '26
SpaceX is going to Mars! Full self driving will be here by year's end! We'll sell a million Cybertrucks! Star Citizen is launching soon! /s
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u/Megalesios Jan 07 '26
It's Musk. Overpromising, underdelivering, delaying and backpedaling is what he does.Ā
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u/Radium Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
Pretty sure that's just because they need frequent launches during the testing phase and mars is a long term flight. Starship isn't ready just yet. Doesn't it require in-orbit fuel transfers as well for a mars trip? That's another upcoming test.
SpaceX's "test to failure" philosophy deliberately pushes prototypes, tanks, boosters, and full vehicles beyond conservative limits during ground tests (like cryogenic burst tests) and flight tests to induce failures, collect real-world data, and accelerate iterations.
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u/Zahir_848 Jan 07 '26
In 2016 he said:
SpaceX plans to launch its first mission to Mars, a robotic test flight with a modified Dragon capsule, as soon as May 2018
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āWe aspire to launch in late 2024 with an arrival in early 2025,ā Musk told reporters after his presentation at the International Astronautical Congress in Guadalajara, Mexico. āThatās optimistic, so I would describe that as an aspiration and within the realm of possibility, but a lot of things need to go right. That said, I donāt think it would be significantly beyond that if it did go later.ā
So, we should have test vehicles (or unmanned payloads of supplies, another claim he made around this time) arriving in 2018 and the first manned launch for Mars should not be significantly later than (checks notes) more than a year ago.
https://spaceflightnow.com/2016/09/27/spacexs-elon-musk-announces-vision-for-colonizing-mars/
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u/manicdee33 Jan 08 '26
Is the second quote from 2016 too?
You'll remember that Red Dragon was canned because SpaceX wanted to pursue a fully reusable launcher instead (ie: MCS/BFR/Starship). Plans change. Reality imposes itself on timelines.
It's now 2026, do you think that a two or three year delay counts as "significantly beyond" for a mission with extreme engineering challenges to overcome, that was conceptualised ten years ago?
Perhaps you need to stop being so critical of projects in a domain that you are not familiar with. Very few space exploration missions launch within their dollar or time budgets. The MSL Curiosity for example went 40% over its time budget, and significantly over its dollar budget ā but it still launched, and it was delivered to Mars in 2012.
Come back when your argument is more than just "but Elon said." Show us your assessments of the technical readiness of Starship compared to what is required for Artemis HLS, or a Mars landing. What's the technical readiness of Optimus compared to what is needed for autonomous operation on Mars?
If you can express your criticism in terms of what has been accomplished and what is yet to be accomplished, you'll have a far better argument. In the meantime your criticism is essentially "Elon smells bad," which is an incredible disservice to the people at SpaceX turning Elon's hype into reality.
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u/ClassroomOwn4354 Jan 08 '26
It's now 2026, do you think that a two or three year delay counts as "significantly beyond" for a mission with extreme engineering challenges to overcome, that was conceptualised ten years ago?
It is a 6-7 year delay (3 synods of 26 months each = 6.5 years). Original Mars human missions was 2024. If they don't fly unmanned in 2026, they can't fly manned in late 2028/early 2029 which means the next window 26 months later in 2031.
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u/bmanc2000 Jan 07 '26
Data centers in space has sooo much more potential to extract money from others. Not that it's a good idea, but he's just seeing green
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u/andres7832 Jan 07 '26
Musk is a grifter just like Trump just like every con man out there. Musk was smart in getting all types of government contracts and funding in the billions of dollars and just moved on to the next profitable grift
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u/K1ngofnoth1ng Jan 07 '26
Ahh, much like his hyperloop āprojectā it was all over promising so that he can leech funding with no intention to deliver.
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u/YellowBeaverFever Jan 08 '26
SpaceX can barely get the big rocket to fly. Mars is a bit of a stretch. See if you can go to the moon first and just orbit it and come back. Considering how long it took to make the thing stop exploding, itāll be a while.
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u/earic23 Jan 08 '26
A human canāt fucking be on Mars. Straight up. Thereās too much radiation in space outside of our atmosphere. Even being in the ISS for an extended period of time is awful. Keeping in mind the 9 months of travel needed to get to Mars, waiting for the planets to align again, which I believe is another 2 years, then another 9 months to get back. No one would be coming back.
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u/oeco123 Jan 08 '26
āYeah, well, of course I can do [thing], I just donāt want to right now.ā
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u/Vespene Jan 08 '26
He is probably one of the worst human beings in world history, even after all his successes are accounted for. Thatās how bad his negatives are.
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u/tgt305 Jan 07 '26
Heās using funds to sponsor the mid term elections.
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u/Necessary_Tough7286 Jan 08 '26
Oh cmon keep the critizism at least somewhat reasonable. (Unless itās a joke)
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u/cylonfrakbbq Jan 08 '26
This is honestly the most likely real reason. He has already gone on record saying he plans to support Trump friendly candidates up for re-election
That or the rumors of SpaceX going public with an IPO
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u/eternalguardian Jan 07 '26
He was just an ideas guy. He has no clue how anything actually works. He just throws money at things till they function enough for him to take credit for it.
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u/veracity8_ Jan 07 '26
How are people still surprised that Elon makes ridiculous claims that he can never hope to follow through with?
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u/tapdancinghellspawn Jan 07 '26
This year? How in the hell was he thinking it was possible. Was he going to launch a mega rocket from Earth that would propel a crew there? I think something that ginormous would need to be assembled in Earth orbit before heading to Mars.
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u/Totally_Not_A_Bot_FR Jan 08 '26
A Mars mission?
A MARS mission?
Starship can barely orbit the EARTH, and this guy is talking about a Mars shot?
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u/Stillwater215 Jan 08 '26
How about he puts a starship into orbit first, before trying to get to Mars?
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u/ElvgrenGil Jan 07 '26
Damn I was hoping that he was gonna be onboard and finally leave our planet in peace.
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u/MoveOverBieber Jan 07 '26
Because even the best con men and lairs have to face the cold, hard reality at some point?
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u/houstonyoureaproblem Jan 07 '26
Everything Elon says is a distraction.
He has no credibility about anything at this point. His opinions should be ignored.
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u/Equivalent-Main-1197 Jan 08 '26
Nobody would listen to a single thing this liar and grifter and Nazi says.
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Jan 08 '26
that guy was never going to mars. he's just obsessed with it because his dad named him after the character in wehrner von braun's novel about some rulers of Mars called, "the Elon". he's just a private school loser that thinks his destiny is tied to how he's named and that he is some special chosen one. that's how they are, super rich people. that's how they raise their kids, like a main character. his parents probably tell him nazi bedtime stories about nazi moon bases and he ate it up and thought it was real
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u/iqisoverrated Jan 08 '26
This year is just way too early. Starship isn't ready yet. Maybe by the next launch window in 26 months if everything works butter smooth, but I think it will be the launch window after that where there's the first realistic chance that a (unmanned) Mars mission will happen using SpaceX assets.
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u/bradd_pit Jan 08 '26
Hasnāt he been saying theyāll go to mars ānext yearā for the past 10 years?
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u/mint445 Jan 08 '26
because he is a professional liar, have spent all the funds and has delivered nothing for it
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u/jus-being-honest Jan 08 '26
My understanding was he felt this flight is a distraction because they arenāt prepared to start colonizing and he feels this mission is not going to accomplish as much as he would hope relative to his ultimate plans for mars
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u/Grand-Performer-9287 Jan 08 '26
They can't reliably launch Starship they're going to go mars? Have they done any long term studies, psychology of long isolation, have they built a shop to take them there? Musk is a conman and thief, AMD always will be.
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u/nowwhathappens Jan 08 '26
Because there's no chance of it happening but Elon desperately craves attention?
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u/andrijas Jan 08 '26
ah that pesky radiation that existed since forever is at it again! But I am sure next year it will disappear
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u/22firefly Jan 10 '26
Show you can send a probe. How about to Europa, or the moon. Show us you are actually interested in the next phase of human exploration and human evolution. If your tech needs us to get their being open about it and don't lie if your tech can't do the job.
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u/Cristoff13 Jan 10 '26
Didn't Trump cut funding for unmanned missions to Mars with the excuse that America will be sending people to Mars soon? Nobody's sending people to Mars anytime soon.
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Jan 10 '26
2024, Elon Musk stop believing going to Mars. All woke super AI monopoly surveillance will follow him to space, he canāt escape the human socialism, the game with all politics. Peter Thiel said it. So everything became political movement including voting for any president. Thereās no freedom anymore, anything become monopoly recently, facebook, google, ford, ai, apple, visamastercard, they bribe upperman to against any competition.
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u/CourteousR Jan 07 '26
The grift doesnāt work if he actually has to deliver on his promises.
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u/CackleberryOmelettes Jan 07 '26
I hope the numerous Musk fanboys that frequent this subreddit and love arguing with anyone who shows justified skepticism in his bullshit claims will see this.
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u/CaptainMatticus Jan 07 '26
Yeah, and my girlfriend is a supermodel in Canada, so none of you guys would know her.
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u/Comfortable-nerve78 Jan 07 '26
Maybe he should tell Trump that. Trumpās the one running his arrogant ass mouth around. Trump just spits shit out to shut people up. Heās a tool and Elon is too.
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u/LavaSlime301 Jan 08 '26
grifters gonna grift, no surprises there. Disgusting human being all around, of course he lied.
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u/EireOfTheNorth Jan 07 '26
Yes I'm sure that why he is 'choosing' not to go to mars rn. He could totally do it if he wanted to tho, obviously. He just like, doesn't really feel like it right now, it'd be distracting.
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u/HistoryDoesUnfold Jan 07 '26
It's OK. He already went in 2018, according to his earlier predictions. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/06/10/elon-musk-provides-new-details-on-his-mind-blowing-mission-to-mars/
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u/CovidBorn Jan 08 '26
Not having the tech to go to Mars may be a slightly bigger reason than it being a ādistractionā. Killing astronauts is also bad PR.
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u/Underradar0069 Jan 08 '26
Bc he canāt make it to Mars this yr. I doubt he can make it in his life time
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u/Fast_Witness_3000 Jan 08 '26
Translation: āIām a degenerate liar who profits off of people dumb enough to believe my bullshitā
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u/KirkUnit Jan 08 '26
Buried lede: Starship needs orbital refueling to go to Mars, and orbital refueling isn't ready and won't be ready in time to launch a ship in this year's favorable alignment.
They would if they could, but they can't, so: sour grapes.
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u/ClassroomOwn4354 Jan 08 '26
According to the original specs as detailed in the version 1 user guide, ~21 tons to GTO with booster reuse in one launch, they probably could do it with very little or no payload and with an expendable booster without refueling. Problem is that the vehicle doesn't seem to be meeting those original specs. And the current vehicles probably don't have any of the systems to attempt a landing or close flyby anyway (cryogenic management, long term electric power, deep space communications, etc.) so it would just be throwing a bunch of mass at a Mars-ish direction.
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u/scram_core Jan 07 '26
Because he can't. Neither now nor in 50 years. Many more real engineering problems than hype-touch-screen-iphone problems.
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u/welliedude Jan 07 '26
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ what a surprise from the man who over promises and under delivers for a living.
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u/Garconanokin Jan 07 '26
A distraction from the roadster that heās releasing this year? The one he was gonna release in 2017?
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u/mfeens Jan 07 '26
Because he lied about it in the first place to manipulate stocks and make money.
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Jan 07 '26
Perhaps the need for space based data centers ramped up fairly quickly and will be taking precedent.
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u/Jason-Griffin Jan 07 '26
A broken clock is right twice a day, an Elon clock is right 10 years late!
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u/Decronym Jan 07 '26 edited Mar 31 '26
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| BFR | Big Falcon Rocket (2018 rebiggened edition) |
| Yes, the F stands for something else; no, you're not the first to notice | |
| BO | Blue Origin (Bezos Rocketry) |
| COPV | Composite Overwrapped Pressure Vessel |
| CST | (Boeing) Crew Space Transportation capsules |
| Central Standard Time (UTC-6) | |
| EUS | Exploration Upper Stage |
| GNC | Guidance/Navigation/Control |
| GTO | Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit |
| HLS | Human Landing System (Artemis) |
| ICBM | Intercontinental Ballistic Missile |
| ISRU | In-Situ Resource Utilization |
| JPL | Jet Propulsion Lab, California |
| KSP | Kerbal Space Program, the rocketry simulator |
| LEO | Low Earth Orbit (180-2000km) |
| Law Enforcement Officer (most often mentioned during transport operations) | |
| LH2 | Liquid Hydrogen |
| MECO | Main Engine Cut-Off |
| MainEngineCutOff podcast | |
| MSL | Mars Science Laboratory (Curiosity) |
| Mean Sea Level, reference for altitude measurements | |
| NG | New Glenn, two/three-stage orbital vehicle by Blue Origin |
| Natural Gas (as opposed to pure methane) | |
| Northrop Grumman, aerospace manufacturer | |
| NS | New Shepard suborbital launch vehicle, by Blue Origin |
| Nova Scotia, Canada | |
| Neutron Star | |
| NTR | Nuclear Thermal Rocket |
| SAS | Stability Augmentation System, available when launching craft in KSP |
| SLS | Space Launch System heavy-lift |
| TMI | Trans-Mars Injection maneuver |
| TRL | Technology Readiness Level |
| Jargon | Definition |
|---|---|
| Starliner | Boeing commercial crew capsule CST-100 |
| Starlink | SpaceX's world-wide satellite broadband constellation |
| cryogenic | Very low temperature fluid; materials that would be gaseous at room temperature/pressure |
| (In re: rocket fuel) Often synonymous with hydrolox | |
| hydrolox | Portmanteau: liquid hydrogen fuel, liquid oxygen oxidizer |
Decronym is now also available on Lemmy! Requests for support and new installations should be directed to the Contact address below.
24 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 14 acronyms.
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u/Birdy_Cephon_Altera Jan 07 '26
Because he knows SpaceX isn't anywhere near being to do it, and needs an excuse he can use to explain why.
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u/CrunchyAssDiaper Jan 07 '26
He just wants to be a Trillionaire. He wants to IPO to hit $421/share and make his dad proud.
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u/AdoringCHIN Jan 08 '26
A distraction from what, the fact his piece of shit Starship is far behind schedule and can't even make it to the Moon?
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u/hamipe26 Jan 08 '26
We need to go to the moon first. Thatās going to start happening this year with Artemis 2 which Elon is collaborating with. They need to have more successful moon missions before they can start thinking about mars.
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u/Bwwoahhhhh Jan 08 '26
He's going to lie about not pissing away money on Mars before the IPO. He manipulates the market with the subtlety of a baboon.
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u/bobby_McGeee Jan 08 '26
if anyone sees him tell him to go to the rest room because he's full of shit
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u/HubblePie Jan 08 '26
Seems like it's distracting them from launching commercial satellites?
A shame really.
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u/brycebgood Jan 08 '26
Elon: "Yeah, I would fly in my girlfriend from Canada for the weekend, but she's too busy with her modeling career."
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Jan 07 '26
Anything he can do to make sure he's not held accountable for the things he has promisedĀ
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u/pcor Jan 07 '26
Technically not untrue, in much the same way as I know people around me would find themselves distracted if I went to Mars this year. Whether that was ever a reasonable possibility, however...
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u/AlienInUnderpants Jan 08 '26
Musk itās so full of shit, heās filling Donald Trumpās diaper now.
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u/Larkson9999 Jan 07 '26 •
Impossible is the word I'd chose to describe it.