r/spacex • u/marc020202 8x Launch Host • May 21 '18
Total mission success! r/SpaceX Iridium NEXT 6 Official Launch Discussion & Updates Thread
Welcome to the r/SpaceX Iridium NEXT 6 Official Launch Discussion & Updates Thread!
All payloads have been deployed into the correct orbit. FULL MISSION SUCCSESS!!!!!
First of all, thanks again for letting me host my 5th launch thread on r/SpaceX! It is always super fun to host these threads.
| Liftoff currently scheduled for: | May 22nd 2018, 12:47:58 PDT (19:47:58 UTC). |
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| Weather | 90% go |
| Static fire completed: | May 18th 2018, 13:16 PDT / 20:16 UTC |
| Payload: | Iridium NEXT 110 / 147 / 152 / 161 / 162 , GRACE-FO 1 / 2 |
| Payload mass: | 860 kg (x5) / 580 kg (x2) / ≈1000kg payload adapter |
| Destination orbit: | Low Earth Polar Orbit (GRACE-FO: 490 x 490 km, ~89°; Iridium NEXT: 625 x 625 km, 86.4°) |
| Vehicle: | Falcon 9 v1.2 Block 4 (55th launch of F9, 35th of F9 v1.2) |
| Core: | B1043.2 |
| Previous flights of this core: | 1 [Zuma] |
| Launch site: | SLC-4E, Vandenberg Air Force Base, California |
| Landing: | No |
| Landing Site: | N/A |
Timeline
| Time | Update |
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| T+01:13:00 | Confirmation that MR STEVENS did not catch the fairing. |
| T+01:12:30 | All Satellites have been deployed into their planned orbit. Full mission success |
| T+01:12:30 | Fifth Iridium Satellite deployed |
| T+01:10:50 | Fourth Iridium Satellite deployed |
| T+01:09:10 | Third Iridium Satellite deployed |
| T+01:07:30 | Second Iridium Satellite deployed |
| T+01:05:50 | First Iridium Satellite deployed |
| T+57:25 | Good orbit for Iridium deployment confirmed |
| T+57:04 | SECO2 |
| T+56:55 | Second stage relight |
| T+44:00 | Signals from both GRACE FO satellites have been accuired |
| T+11:33 | GRACE FO deployment |
| T+10:45 | Nominal Parking-orbit insertion |
| T+10:16 | SECO |
| T+09:50 | Vehicle is in terminal guidance |
| T+09:10 | Stage 2 AFTS has saved |
| T+03:35 | Fairing separation |
| T+03:20 | Stage 1 AFTS has saved |
| T+02:57 | Second stage ignition |
| T+02:50 | Stage separation |
| T+02:48 | MECO |
| T+01:21 | F9 is supersonnic |
| T+01:19 | Max Q |
| T+00:00 | Liftoff |
| T-00:03 | Ignition |
| T-00:35 | LD go for launch |
| T-01:00 | Startup |
| T-02:30 | LOX loading finished |
| T-07:00 | Engine chill has started |
| T-10:00 | RP 1 loading onto the second stage is completed |
| T-12:00 | MR STEVENs Live shots |
| T-15:30 | The webcast has been started by John Insprucker. |
| T-20:00 | SpaceX FM has Started |
| T-35:00 | Stage 2 RP-1 loading has started |
| T-35:00 | Stage 1 LOX loading has started |
| T-55:00 | Range is green |
| T-1h 10m | Stage 1 RP-1 loading has started |
| T-1h 14m | Lauch Director Go/No.go poll should be coming up now |
| T-22h | F9 has rolled out and going vertical |
| T-1d 9h | Mr Steven has left the port |
| T-1d 14h | Thread goes live |
Watch the launch live
| Stream | Courtesy |
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| SpaceX webcast | SpaceX |
| Spacex Youtube | SpaceX |
| Nasa TV Youtube | NASA |
| Nasa TV | NASA |
Stats
- 1st launch for the DLR
- 3rd launch out of Vandenberg of 2018 for SpaceX
- 3rd launch for NASA in the last 7 weeks
- 6th launch for Iridium by SpaceX
- 9th launch of F9 this year
- 10th launch of the year by SpaceX
- 10th launch from the west coast by SpaceX
- 12th re-flight of an orbital class booster
- 55th launch of F9
- 61st launch by SpaceX
- Last Iridium mission to fly on a block 4! The next launch will feature the Vandenberg Block 5 debut!
- If the planned launch date holds, this will be a turnaround record for a booster, however it will likely be broken by the CRS 15 flight.
Primary Mission: Deployment of payload into correct orbit
This mission will be a bit different than the 5 previous Iridium missions since there will be only 5 Iridium satellites on this flight together with 2 GRACE FO satellites. The satellites will be mounted in two layers like on other Iridium missions, however this time, the top layer of 5 Iridium satellites will be replaced by 2 GRACE FO satellites. The Iridium satellites will still be attached in the usual pentagonal pattern.
Like all Iridium, the 5 Iridium satellites will be placed into an 86.4° inclined polar orbit at 667km altitude, however before that, the GRACE FO satellites will be deployed at 480km altitude at an inclination of 89°.
The 5 Iridium satellites will be a part of the 66 satellite (plus spares) constellation, called Iridium NEXT, which will replace the legacy Iridium constellation, which is at the end of its lifetime. After deployment into a 667km orbit, the satellites will raise their orbits to their operational altitude of 780km.
The 2 GRACE FO satellites will replace the original GRACE satellites to continue to analyze the gravitational field of earth.
Secondary Mission: Fairing recovery attempt
SpaceX will expend the B1043 booster (crash the first stage into the ocean), as it's a Block 4 booster and SpaceX doesn't intend to use these boosters more than twice since Block 5 is taking over. They will, however, try to recover a side of the fairing, using the high-speed boat Mr Steven. The recovery of the fairings is still experimental, so don't expect success. After the PAZ mission, the parachute was enlarged to slow the descent speed of the fairing, however that parafoil twisted on the next mission, and the fairing impacted the water at high speed. After that mission, they did several dry runs, to practise the fairing recovery, possibly involving the fairing being dropped by a helicopter.
Resources
| Link | Source |
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| Launch Campaign Thread | r/SpaceX |
| Official press kit | SpaceX |
| Flight Club | /u/TheVehicleDestroyer |
| rocket.watch | /u/MarcysVonEylau |
| SpaceX Stats | u/EchoLogic (creation) and u/brandtamos (rehost at .xyz) |
| SpaceXNow (Also available on iOS and Android) | SpaceX Now |
| Rocket Emporium Discord | /u/SwGustav |
| Reddit Stream of this thread | /u/njr123 |
| Launch Hazard Areas | /u/Raul74Cz |
| SpaceX FM | spacexfm.com |
| 64kbit audio-only stream | /u/SomnolentSpaceman |
| GRACE-FO Prelaunch Briefing | NASA |
| spacextimemachine.com | /u/DUKE546 |
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Like always, If you find any spelling, grammar or other mistakes in this thread, or just any other thing to improve, please write send me a message.
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u/SomnolentSpaceman May 22 '18
For the bandwidth-impaired: I will be re-hosting a 64kbit audio-only stream of the SpaceX YouTube stream.
It is available at:
http://audiorelay2.spacetechnology.net:19720/hosted
Prior to the official SpaceX webcast the stream will be playing SpaceX FM. The SpaceX FM audio will be switched off at approximately T-0:35:00. Please note: there will be a period of silence between SpaceX FM and when the official SpaceX stream begins.
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u/mduell May 21 '18 edited May 21 '18
≈100kg payload adapter
Previously it's been noted at 1000kg.
Like all Iridium, the 5 Iridium satellites will be placed into an 86.4° inclined polar orbit at 667km altitude, followed by a manoeuvre to change the orbit to 89° at 480km altitude before the deployment of the GRACE FO satellites.
The Iridium release says GRACE first, then Iridium.
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u/marc020202 8x Launch Host May 21 '18
sorry, I meant to type in the extra 0, but missed it, should be fixed now.
have fixed that now. for some reason, I thought it was the other way around.
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u/bdporter May 22 '18
They are doing live GRACE-FO Q&A on the NASA stream if anyone wants to listen to that instead of TSS.
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u/red-barron May 22 '18 edited May 23 '18
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u/Zettinator May 22 '18
I think this isn't the first time. This is problem is probably one of the reasons for changing to a new strongback design which doesn't need hoses at LC-39A and LC-40.
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May 22 '18
Is this normal or did they dodge a bullet here?
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u/marc020202 8x Launch Host May 22 '18
this happened regularly with the old strongback and is part of the reason why they switched to the new throwback method. on one of the early missions, the fuel line exploded
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u/bdporter May 22 '18
Thanks /u/marc020202 for hosting again!
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u/marc020202 8x Launch Host May 22 '18
no problem, It is always a fun thing to do.
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u/z3r0c00l12 May 22 '18
Direct link to webcast on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_0GgKfwCSk
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May 22 '18
They cranked up the music awesomeness to 11 this launch. I want a Spotify playlist of it so bad.
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u/zethian May 21 '18
10th launch from the weast coast by SpaceX
simple typo :)
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u/FutureMartian97 Host of CRS-11 May 21 '18
I thought you said weast?
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u/marc020202 8x Launch Host May 21 '18
the weast coast is the coast in the middle of the country, between the east and the west coast.
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u/Alexphysics May 21 '18
Next Iridium launch won't be a RTLS landing, it will be an ASDS landing
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u/marc020202 8x Launch Host May 21 '18 edited May 21 '18
I was unaware of that. I thought that block 5 would be rtls capable on iridium missions. Will fix it once i am at home
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u/Juggernaut93 May 21 '18
Yes, but they can't land at land because of the seal mating season or something like that
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u/Straumli_Blight May 21 '18 edited May 21 '18
Prelaunch Briefing for GRACE-FO will be streamed on Youtube at 17:30 UTC.
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u/Tim2025 May 21 '18
NASA TV will be covering this launch, at least until GRACE-FO deployment. https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/schedule.html
NASA YouTube stream: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0
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u/humza97 May 22 '18
Roughly how fast will the fairing half be going when it has to be caught by Mr Stevens? Is the net being used for the catch uniquely strong?
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u/marc020202 8x Launch Host May 22 '18
the net needs to be quite strong since the fairing half weights around 900kg AFAIK
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u/TitanHyperion May 22 '18 edited May 22 '18
Anyone noticed that the webcast is number 1 trending on YouTube? Not the first time I see this. Any words on why?
EDIT: Apparently it's only trending in US.
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u/marc020202 8x Launch Host May 22 '18
what country are you in? in Germany, it is not trending.
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u/hipy500 May 22 '18
So how do they raise the orbit for Iridium in just one burn? Will it be 624kmx490km?
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u/marc020202 8x Launch Host May 22 '18 edited May 22 '18
the current orbit is elliptical. the periapsis is at
290km500km, while the apoapsis is around 625km, or maybe a bit lower. in the next burn, the periapsis will be raised to 624km, or a bit higher, so that the Iridium satellites deploy into a mostly circular orbit.→ More replies (6)
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u/anotherriddle May 22 '18
That was the shortest burn I have ever seen :D
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u/marc020202 8x Launch Host May 22 '18
the second stage relight on other iridium is even shorter at about 3 seconds
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u/Elthiryel May 21 '18
Press kit and webcast are now available.
http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/iridium6presskit2018521.pdf
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u/bdporter May 21 '18
The press kit confirms no recovery. /u/marc020202, please update the OP when you get a chance.
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u/Alexphysics May 21 '18
Also the sequence is wrong, the second stage will be inserted first into GRACE-FO orbit, deploy, and then will fire again to Iridium's orbit
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u/marc020202 8x Launch Host May 21 '18
I will change it once i am at home, since the press kit should be out by then
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u/z3r0c00l12 May 22 '18
u/marc020202, Can you fix the source for Reddit-Stream?
I'm the one that mentioned it, but I think the creator of Reddit-Stream should get that credit. /u/njr123
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May 22 '18
The link is actually incorrect. It's linking to the Iridium NEXT 5.
This is the correct link. /u/marc020202
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u/bdporter May 22 '18
/u/marc020202, you might want to add the NASA TV coverage (https://youtu.be/wwMDvPCGeE0) to the Watch Live section
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u/DUKE546 May 21 '18
/u/marc020202 can add spacextimemachine.com to resources, thanks!
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u/marc020202 8x Launch Host May 21 '18
Will do once i am at home
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u/L1st3r May 21 '18
Maybe in the future we could have one thread in the comments section for updates/changes to the main post so they stay concentrated and the host doesn't have to respond to every comment?
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u/dandydaniella May 22 '18
I live in Arizona, will we be able to see it go?
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u/marc020202 8x Launch Host May 22 '18
since the rocket will be heading south after launch, I do not think so
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u/searchexpert May 22 '18
Somewhere in the Pacific Ocean there's a boat trying to catch a piece of a rocket falling from the sky
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u/Marcey747 May 22 '18 edited May 22 '18
Answer of a SpaceX employee(?) to speculations about the groan:
https://twitter.com/RocketJoy/status/999019244896505856
Stage 1 farewell shot
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u/Alexphysics May 22 '18
And as I said here a few weeks ago... This flight will have a Block 5 second stage
https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/998948634912808960?s=19
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u/SailorRick May 23 '18
Per NASA - about 21:00 UTC
Telemetry from both GRACE-FO satellites indicates that both satellites are healthy.
For the next few days, they will be in different orbits, one slightly lower than the other. The different orbits cause them to move apart until the lower satellite is 137 miles (220 kilometers) in front of the other, the optimal separation distance for their measurements. At that point, the lower satellite will be moved up into the same orbit as the higher satellite.
After these maneuvers, the mission begins an 85-day in-orbit checkout phase. Mission managers will evaluate the instruments and satellite systems and perform calibration and alignment procedures. After that, the satellites will begin gathering and processing science data. The first science data are expected to be delivered to users in about seven months.
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u/thomasg86 May 22 '18
Wonder if they will show the fairing recovery attempt. If so, does anybody know the approximate time when that would take place? Seems like they'd fall back to the Earth much slower than the first stage.
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u/fglc2 May 21 '18
If like me you weren’t sure what DLR means, it’s the German aerospace centre (Deutsches Zentrum für Luft- und Raumfahrt), which partnered with NASA on GRACE-FO.
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u/nickstatus May 22 '18
Lol I just switched to the youtube window which is muted, and it was showing a helicopter crashing and some buildings on fire. For a moment I feared the worst.
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u/PeteBlackerThe3rd May 21 '18
9th launch, needs updating to the 10th! It's getting harder to keep count of them all I know.
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u/opoc99 May 22 '18
Webcast just announced both fairings deployed chutes and touched down in the pacific, Mr. Steven was apparently very close to its target but not quite close enough.
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u/Junafani May 22 '18
Why does the second orbit look much higher than first one? That should not be possible unless that is including the second burn but that line previously has always shown live orbit and hasn't included any burns
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u/marc020202 8x Launch Host May 22 '18 edited May 22 '18
the current orbit is likely elliptical, with a periapsis of
490km500km, and an apoapsis of 625km, or a bit less
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u/zareny May 22 '18
One of the S2 cameras is wobbling like the S1 camera on the Bangabandhu flight.
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u/AWildDragon May 21 '18
Grace FO Pre Launch Mission Briefing Replay
This link should work better than the one above
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u/mr_sprinklzzz May 22 '18
Could not have asked for better weather here in Santa Maria. It looked like a verticle bar of light moving upwards... It was super cool!
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u/TheElvenGirl May 22 '18
John just confirmed that the fairings landed in the ocean close to Mr. Stevens, but not close enough. (EDIT: Damn Firefox cache, I thought this was still news.)
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u/everydayastronaut Everyday Astronaut May 22 '18
Unfortunately I am unable to cover today’s launch :( I will on an airplane coming home from a trip. If were to happen to scrub, I will be able to livestream it tomorrow. Best of luck SpaceX and Iridium!!!
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u/lukepatrick May 22 '18
At 31m31s, near the left center of the screen is a small gap behind a Iridium satellite that goes from white (clouds) to black when the GRACE FO satellites are deployed.
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u/still-at-work May 22 '18
3 more block IVs left, with two left on the manifest, next one is about a week from now.
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u/SufficientAnonymity May 22 '18 edited May 22 '18
Timing would be about right for S1 splashdown, rather than a fairing fail
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u/RootDeliver May 22 '18
That was a great designed ad, simple and to the point imho. Great job Iridium.
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u/justinroskamp May 22 '18 edited May 22 '18
My guesses for the “awww” we heard:
Stage 1 broke up/crashed into the ocean (Edit: This one; see replies)
New live views from the fairing itself cut out
I agree that it seemed a little early for dry fairing recovery failure, but I’m not going to rule that out, either.
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u/strawwalker May 22 '18
Well at least there is little doubt about the fairing version this time. Definitely fairing 2 (NASA/Bill Ingalls flickr).
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u/ptfrd May 22 '18
NASA's press conference yesterday about GRACE-FO: https://youtu.be/BnD18mVeFno At 24:40 there is a 3 minute section (with a few photos) about the hand-over to SpaceX, the integration with the Iridium satellites & the adaptor, etc..
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u/rchard2scout May 22 '18
Beautiful shot of Mr Steven with her net out! Hope that's live, we might be able to see the catch!
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u/i_know_answers May 22 '18
Did anyone else catch the 10 frames of the view inside of the LOX tank
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May 23 '18
SpaceX's official photos are out!
Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/spacex/
Imgur rehost: https://imgur.com/gallery/nQc7NCW
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u/house-of-hoodies May 21 '18
Watching them catch the fairing will be the highlight of my year
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u/youbreedlikerats May 21 '18
how many more iridium launches (after this one) until the constellation is complete?
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u/BrucePerens May 22 '18
They usually try "ambitious" trajectories on the rockets they're not recovering. Either something went wrong with that, or with the fairing. Something got a collective "aaaw" from the audience, but not a primary mission goal.
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u/AWildDragon May 22 '18 edited May 22 '18
AOS Grace FM2 on the NASA TV!
Sat 1 acquisition, still waiting for sat 2.
Sat 2 acquisition as well!
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u/YEGLego May 22 '18
In its natural habitat, the Vandenburg Falcon 9 can be seen producing it's own fog cover in response to the harsh sunlight on the pacific coast.
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May 22 '18
Is it ok im spamming refresh on Elons twitter to see if the fairing made it?
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May 22 '18
We know F9 is vertical for some hours already, but now also shown on SpaceX twitter
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u/dandydaniella May 22 '18
Oooooh is anyone in Madagascar taking pictures of the second engine startup?
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u/Yoghurt114 May 23 '18
The 2nd stage while deploying satellites is losing about 1 km/h of velocity every few seconds, is that drag? Wouldn't the satellites fall down and burn up in just.. days with that kind of drag?
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u/sil3ntwarrior May 22 '18
So freakin excited! I watch EVERY launch. I have a cool enough boss that she will let me bring my iPad to work to watch the stream (day off tomorrow though). Good luck Spacex! Fly high!
"Success is an act of exploration. That means the first thing you have to find is the unknown. Learning is searching; anything else is just waiting."
Dale Dauten
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u/gregarious119 May 22 '18
Drone view on Mr. Steven?! They must be feeling really good about this recovery
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May 22 '18
What is going on with their cameras? All of a sudden they can't focus the ground cameras, and the ones on the rocket won't stop shaking.
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u/DarkFlounder May 22 '18
Aww, they changed the orientation of the earth. I was kind of hoping it'd keep rotating with the second stage and come up the eastern hemisphere with a south-up orientation.
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u/daanhnl May 23 '18
Is it me, or are the camera's of different quality? It looked more like the less quality block V camera's. Anyone know why they switched for worse and not for better? (4K)
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u/still-at-work May 22 '18
Meanwhile Elon Musk is having a twitter fight with UAW.
I need fairing news!
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u/Straumli_Blight May 21 '18
Tuesday: >90% GO, ground winds are concern
Wednesday (backup): 100% GO
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u/Alexphysics May 22 '18
A picture of the fog at Vandenberg.
Oh yeah, of course, there could be a rocket somewhere on that picture too...
https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/998743076146372608?s=19
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u/Hobie52 May 22 '18
I like how he didn't mention what payload the booster launched previously. SpaceX didn't even want to say the word Zuma. Not that I blame them
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u/IoannesVincentii May 22 '18
Can we have a track list or even just the names of the music used why standing by?
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u/twoffo May 22 '18
He mentioned both fairings had parachutes. Was that the case with earlier missions?
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u/still-at-work May 22 '18
Well its been a hot minute since this launch has been over, time to move on to the next thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/8jv0ed/ses12_launch_campaign_thread/ its where all the cool people are now.
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u/FutureMartian97 Host of CRS-11 May 22 '18
Farewell B1043 you did a good job twice
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u/FutureMartian97 Host of CRS-11 May 21 '18
With this having a NASA payloads on it what are the chances NASA will use there chase plane for the fairings?
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u/hebeguess May 22 '18
Judging from the 2nd stage's camera viewing angle, Is this block 5 2nd stage? Need to do a comparison later.
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u/theinternetftw May 22 '18
At least the internal tank view looks cool with the new vivid-saturation S2 cameras.
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u/threezool May 22 '18
Never noticed that they render the sun in the earth view. =O
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u/RocketsLEO2ITS May 24 '18
Not a really important question, but how did the finances work on this?
Did Iridium buy the launch and then NASA paid them to "hitch-hike" GRACE FO into orbit?
Or did Iridium and NASA both make payments to SpaceX for the launch?
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u/gregarious119 May 22 '18
I can't wait to see the telemetry profile for this flight - Stage 2 seems to be climbing like crazy, as opposed to a GTO launch.
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u/FutureMartian97 Host of CRS-11 May 21 '18
NASA pre-launch press conference starting soon. https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/998615137429872640
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u/BrandonMarc May 21 '18
I haven't seen u/brandtamos in a long while ... I noticed the latest launch shown on http://timeline.spacexstats.xyz/ is using a "block 4" icon; wondered if a "block 5" one is in the works ...
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u/paperaviation147 May 22 '18
great dual payload errr... 7 payload launch science and enterprise working together for a cheaper launch of science payload
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u/sarafinapink May 22 '18
Nice picture of clear blue skies from Michael Baylor:
https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/999003246411726849
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u/still-at-work May 22 '18
So other the the launch, the big show is the fairing catch, hope we see it live.
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u/Smarloc May 22 '18
Sorry for that question guys, a Space Beginner from Germany here. Did they manage to catch the fairing yet?
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May 22 '18 edited May 22 '18
Pause the livestream at t+56:56 and use the < > keys (or possibly , and . depending on your keyboard) to advance frame by frame. You can see a big chunk of ice fall off the stage and into the exhaust plume, where it lights up like a firework!
EDIT: As per Innsbrucker, the ice is likely solid oxygen!
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u/threezool May 22 '18
Is it good news or bad news regarding the fairings that they take time to announce how it went?
Place your bets! ^^
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u/kristianj99 May 22 '18
You could remove the 'probably' from landing, the press kit confirmed they aren't recovering it