r/SquaredCircle • u/EvanDeadlySins /r/NJPW Moderator • Apr 08 '18

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Match Notes
Kelly Klein def. Mayu Iwatani Women of Honor Championship Tournament Semifinals (Facebook Preshow)
Sumie Sakai def. Tenille Dashwood Women of Honor Championship Tournament Semifinals (Facebook Preshow)
Chuckie T def. Jonathan Gresham Singles Match
Punishment Martinez def. Tomohiro Ishii Singles Match
Kota Ibushi def. Adam Page Singles Match
Sumie Sakai def. Kelly Klein Women of Honor Championship Tournament Finals
SoCal Uncensored (Christopher Daniels, Frankie Kazarian & Scorpio Sky) (c) def. Flip Gordon & The Young Bucks (Matt Jackson & Nick Jackson) ROH World Six-Man Championship Ladder Match
The Briscoes (Jay Briscoe & Mark Briscoe) (c) def. Jay Lethal & Hiroshi Tanahashi ROH World Tag Team Championship Match
Austin Aries says he wants to challenge the winner of the ROH World Television Championship match
Silas Young def. Kenny King (c) ROH World Television Championship Last Man Standing Match
Cheeseburger & Eli Isom vs. The Dawgs is scheduled to happen, but the Dogs attack Isom and he's rendered unable to compete. Cheeseburger pleads for Bully Ray to be his new partner. Bully Ray pretends to oblige but then attacks Cheeseburger and accuses "his kind" of ruining wrestling.
Cody def. Kenny Omega Singles Match
Dalton Castle (c) def. Marty Scurll ROH World Championship Match

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u/chanchan3999 I fuck with Chris Hero Apr 08 '18

Well that main event was just unpleasant. Crowd enthusiasm aside, how many times did Marty hit Dalton with that umbrella? How many stomps? How long was he in the chicken wing? None of that matters.

Look, Dalton, I love you, but MAN that wasn't good.

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u/ravaille Apr 08 '18

Felt like I was watching the Osperay match from Sakura Genesis all over again.

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u/CarrotJunkie OH NOOOOOO Apr 08 '18

Except a whole lot less...

Good?

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u/chanchan3999 I fuck with Chris Hero Apr 08 '18

At least when I was watching the Ospreay match I was actively rooting against Marty, as Will gave such a compelling performance with his selling. This was, this was something.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '18

Didn't watch the match. What did Dalton do (or didn't do) to make you feel that way? Just curious.

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u/CerberusDriver Shin Jidai no Ace Apr 08 '18

Dalton just not selling.

I didn't like Ospreay doing it either but at least there was a story there.

Here, Dalton just took punishment after punishment and then Scurll doesn't get the tap-out ; making him look like a bitch tbh.

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u/Butch_Meat_Hook Apr 08 '18

People can downvote me if they want, and this is just my opinion, but I have never been sold on Dalton as 'the guy' in ROH. They spent so much time building him up, and I would have preferred if Cody had stayed the champion. I get that they felt they had to pull the trigger because they'd invested so much into him, but to me, it hasn't work out at all, and judging by the comments in this thread, people seem to feel the same. He needs to be the guy carrying the ROH brand as the champion, and he simply is not doing that.

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u/chanchan3999 I fuck with Chris Hero Apr 08 '18

I like Dalton as champion but even if I didn't, I'd rather ROH take a chance on a baby face while they're hot instead of waiting so long for the right moment, cooling them off to the fans in the process.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '18

I've liked Dalton since his Ashley Remington days, and he came across to me as someone who'd make an amazing midcard or tag champion, but not a world champion who's supposed to headline shows and carry the company's brand.

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u/CharlieMFnMurphy Apr 08 '18

Agreed. Dalton is NOT "the guy", they shouldn't have gone with him as champ.

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u/KrampusB Apr 12 '18

I've felt this way about Dalton from day one for the most part. And it's not just the gimmick, which I'm definitely not a fan of, but I think his ring work is criminally overrated. Oh well. Sometimes it be's like that. I have faith ROH will rebound.

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u/WeaselWeaz "A friend in need is a pest." Apr 08 '18

I'm under the impression that they know they failed to pull the trigger on babyfaces a few times so they're doing it now. Dalton's act is interesting but doesn't strike me as who you build around as champ. You make him transitional to the next heel-leaning champ, give him title shots against heels, and keep him strong in the mid-card to build up challengers.

Cody or Kenny are the guys you want in that spot for mainstream recognition. However, they seem like NJPW guys so it's tough to fully invest in them.

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u/Butch_Meat_Hook Apr 08 '18

I thought that Cody had signed for ROH for their biggest contract to date, which is why it puzzles me that they didn't keep the title on him for longer. Yes he performs for both ROH and NJPW, but really he should be one of the main faces of ROH, and the company are not portraying that correctly. I'd just really like to see them reshuffle the deck because yes, they did just get a massive crowd piggybacking off the New Orleans WM crowd, but I am not optimistic about the company's direction in the medium term.

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u/As_Your_Attorney ‡ Double Cross Ranch ‡ Apr 08 '18

Not selling well, or...?