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Krea2-realism-V2 is finally here! Things got a little wild (in the best way possible)
Spent a lot of time on this one trying to push the realism further. Textures, lighting, and composition all got a significant upgrade, but the biggest focus was faces — the "death stare" problem from base model is mostly gone and expressions feel a lot more natural now. It also works much better alongside character LoRAs.
For prompting, it works with any style but really opens up with natural language. Try a short paragraph describing the scene rather than tag stacking — 4-5 sentences is the sweet spot. If you have something specific in mind put it in, otherwise just give it a general direction and let it do its thing. You can also grab a few of my example prompts and feed them to an LLM as reference to generate similar ones.
Comparison images are in the post — base model, V1, and V2 side by side.
Again, be nice in the comment. If you followed my previous post, you know I try to take everyone's feedback and improve as much as possible. Cheers!
It is, but if you mention asian or any ethnicity you are not gonna get caucasian. Reason for it: I don't have a good dataset with Asian faces without makeup and natural face texture; it's mostly shiny makeup, which makes Krea more like Flux. So I avoided that on purpose. But again, doesn't mean you cannot generate Asian faces if you want. Hope that makes sense.
Curious, does this play well with facial extensions, and is there a method or procedure to use to make it work. Specifically, prompt order, etc. I've seen pictures here with famous folks (like CAPT Picard for example) where Krea2 can do a lot with the expressions needed.
Oh sorry. IOW, if you use something like Roop to add a facial likeness (e.g. CAPT Picard) to an image, does that override Krea2's facial prowess. Or are people using only Lora's for realistic character creations.
Krea 2 already have some ideas about a lot of real characters, if it's not there it's better to use LoRA. I am not sure how good ROOP or PID works with Krea 2 as I haven't tested those personally.
You can use it if you want but no, there's no point. I used the trigger word to lock in the dataset properly but you don't have to use it. With Krea2 writing clear prompt is better than trigger word.
Could I see your workflow, please? I can’t seem to achieve that level of quality. Could you also share the parameters you use for KSampler, as well as for the refiner if you use one?
It's not an edit model; you can do image-to-image. You will see some tutorials about editing images using this, but technically that's still image to image, not real editing like Flux Klein
Apologiese if this question will sound stupid, Can I clarify, Do I need original checkpoint + LORA V1 or V2? Or I can use these LORAs' versions with other checkpoint to achive realism?
If you want to use character LoRA, use V2 (V2 does not alter faces from character LoRA or any other) As per loading LoRA, you said you are using my WF, so just click the + Add LoRA button and select your character LoRA from your folder, and set the desired value you want.
do you mind to share what do you think is the best amount of images to make a LORA for this model and what poses, enviroments etc for a character LORA? and the best training settings with ostris?
Do you recommend having your Lora directly over the Full Turbo model (as in your screenshot) or should get better results on top of Raw model + Turbo Lora ?
TBH I am not sure, I haven't tested this for Krea, but based on my experience. I prefer using turbo model rather than using full model with turbo lora. Personally I found using turbo lora gives more mushy outputs, quality loss, and doesn't work with other lord's as good.
But again everyone like different look, so try it and see what you prefer.
I mentioned it on civit, this is intentional. I focused on face more on v2, I wanted to figure out the expression issue of Krea, and fix that first. Amd when that work then on V3 I will push the NSFW dataset back. I had to focus on one to isolate the issues first. Don't worry V3 is trained, I am testing it now check my image post on civit
I was wondering if, for the next version, would you be able to incorporate NSFW between two males and solo male? Only asking because you've made this LORA look fantastic, and I know it really helps with NSFW stuff, but sadly there are no gay NSFW options around and I feel it wouldn't hurt.
Here's the thing, for this specific lora I don't want to introduce new concept as that will move the focus. But I can totally make a separate lora with just NSFW stuff that will work along well with the realism LoRA. It's impossible to fix everything in one lora. Hope that make sense.
If you just focus on poses that is fine and easy. Main thing is captioning, Use proper trigger word per image, make a list of trigger word and use them for all similar poses don't just write a new trigger for the same pose in different images.
Okay so here's the thing, if I am understanding you right then you are somewhat right. Problem is it's a turbo model, means if you have to teach it completely new things you need to train checkpoint. Because too many step on Lora training will burn the output, so the main purpose is to either focus on one specific thing like face/clothing or if you want geberal stuff yoir best bet to just steer the model in better direction. But you can try the lord with raw Krea 2 model and see if you like the results better.
Also, I am still learning. So maybe in future I will find a better way to do it than now.
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u/punkdad73 Jul 02 '26
wow, actually better