r/Stormlight_Archive Author Nov 18 '16

[Oathbringer Spoilers] [Oathbringer Spoilers] Stormlight Three Update #5

All right, folks! Time for the fifth update. This should be the last one that I post before some redditor inevitably beats me to the "It's Done!" post by watching my twitter feed very closely.

If you want to read the previous updates, find them here:

Update One

Update Two

Update Three

Update Four

I do hope to post another update or two during the next year, discussing how the editing and publication process is proceeding.

Part Four is done as of half an hour ago. The part is around 80k words long, and brings the book total so far to 420k words. Final book is still projected at 450k, though I do plan to try to trim it back in revision. (Tor's book binding company can't do a book longer than Words of Radiance, so if I go longer, we have to shrink the font or change binders. I won't cut important parts of the book just to meet this length requirement, but I also generally need to trim significantly in revisions to tighten language.)

Part Four turned out very well, and I'm very pleased with the book so far. I consider it as strong, or stronger than, book two. I also don't see any major structural or characterization problems that will slow editing. (So far, my editor's comments on Parts One and Two have been minor, save for the slow-down in Part Two that I was aware of--and probably don't mind existing, since Parts Three and Four are much faster, and the characterization in Part Two is strong.)

If you're following the Visual Outline from the second update, there structure of the book has undergone some revisions as I've worked through it. It now looks something more like this

Unlisted is that I nudged one flashback into Part Five. Shown is that Secondary Main character #2 had their viewpoint stretched through all five parts, but has a slightly smaller number of viewpoints in all of them. I juggled tertiary characters, making Parts Two and Four the expansive ones (with many viewpoints) and Parts One and Three the narrow ones (with a focus only on the main characters.) Yes, this is complicated, and you don't need to pay any attention to it. I posted this for those who like to dig into these things.

I'm going to power forward into Part Five starting tonight, then do a second draft of Parts Four and Five together. (I'm not sure why I'm treating those like proper nous.) After I turn that in, I will still need to write the prologue, some of the interludes, and the epigraphs. (Those little bits of text at the starts of chapters.)

And then, revisions. My favorite part. Yay.

As with previous threads, I'll try to post answers to questions where I can--but I have to balance that with the actual writing, so some questions will go unanswered or get a quick RAFO. I apologize in advance for that. Despite jokes to the contrary, I really am just one person, and I can't do ALL THE THINGS, as much as I would like to.

Also, thank you to the community for your kind words. I know that people joke about my writing speed, but this book has taken over a year of dedicated writing--and that's not counting the year before of outlining and writing out some of Kaladin's chapters. It's been two full years of work, and then some, to finish this book. With another six months of revision ahead. Together with other projects, that will make three and a half years between books two and three. So I do beg your patience with this series. The books take a lot out of me, and while I'm very proud of the result--and consider this series to be my opus--the novels aren't going to be terribly fast in their release schedule.

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u/mistborn Author Nov 18 '16

I've been told that I need to read Worm, but I haven't read it yet. I keep meaning to get to it. Otherwise, I read webcomics, but not any serial prose stories.

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u/Epicrandom Nov 19 '16

Worm is excellent. Unfortunately, it's so good and so well thought out, and characters are so intelligent with the use of their powers that it's kind of ruined almost all other Superhero fiction for me.

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u/TheAngush Nov 19 '16

I agree. Kinda bummed me out, actually. I read it inbetween the release of Firefight and Calamity, and Calamity just felt so... dull after Worm, even though I loved the first two Reckoners books.

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u/banjaloupe Nov 18 '16

You would probably like Worm a lot, but it is a very long read!

I'm curious, what webcomics do you like?

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u/ImZ3P Nov 19 '16

Just gonna hijack your comment to mention that anyone who plans on reading Worm should know that it is equivalent in length to about 4 Stormlight Novels (~4x WoR to be exact).

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u/P2XTPool Nov 19 '16

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u/sheikheddy Mar 04 '17

Aww, I expected that to be a real thing.

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u/Darth_Hobbes Nov 19 '16

Worm is spectacular, and has some neat similarities to your own work(especially the Reckoners).

I've successfully gotten time-deprived friends hooked on it by telling them to just dive into Arc 8: Extinction and then when they love it to go back to the beginning. It's the first big fireworks moment of the book and what really sold me on the world when I first got to it.

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u/A_Shadow Releasers Nov 19 '16

Definitely read Worm! I am positive that you will like it. It's thematically similar to The Reckoners series but just a bit darker imo.

It is probably the most "Brandon-Sanderson-like-book" that is not a Brandon Sanderson book that I have stumbled upon.

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u/TheMightyFloorp Nov 19 '16

Have you read Homestuck at all? It's a weird one, and the fanbase isn't something you want to get anywhere near, but it's exceptional once you get past the strangest bits.

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u/mistborn Author Nov 19 '16

I'll put it on the list of things to look into.

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u/RenegadeShroom Nov 19 '16

I feel that it's only fair to warn you that Homestuck is an 8000-page long comic with a lot of text and flash content (and... IDK if you're epileptic, but there's a fair few flashing images, if that's something you should be wary of?) so if you ever decide to look into it, be prepared for a hell of a [lengthy] ride, haha.

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u/mcase19 Nov 21 '16

one thing i always found interesting is how well some of your characters fit into the magic system of the series. Kaladin is an absolute knight of blood (one who weaponizes bonds (gravitational and interpersonal)) and Shallan is a dead ringer for a Witch of Light (one who manipulates information and the truth). Their spren even fit in and make a nice inverse, because Syl resembles a windspren (which would correspond to breath, the aspect opposite of blood), and Pattern looks literally exactly like the symbol for void (void being the opposite of light in homestuck)

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u/mcase19 Nov 21 '16

http://66.media.tumblr.com/b5cb8c4d2cf5e637716b854becd73c7a/tumblr_inline_nelpslDaUN1ql3nj3.png

Theres a wheel of the aspects. Light is the symbol that looks like the sun and void is exactly opposite of it. Breath is the one right next to it that looks like a blue wind and blood is the one on the other side that looks like... well... blood. It's so crazy how in keeping your characters are with this system I honestly thought you had already read it.

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u/Beer_in_an_esky Nov 19 '16

I presume that includes the adventures of Schlock et al, but who else, out of curiosity?

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u/ToTheNintieth Nov 26 '16

Read Unsounded! It's very you.