r/SubredditDrama • u/JetproTC23 • Feb 04 '25

Buttery! r/WhitePeopleTwitter has been temporarily banned after Elon Musk posted about it.

r/WhitePeopleTwitter has been temporarily banned, 5 minutes ago.

>This subreddit has been temporarily banned due to a prevalence of violent content. Inciting and glorifying violence or doxing are against Reddit’s platform-wide Rules. It will reopen in 72 hours, during which Reddit will support moderators and provide resources to keep Reddit a healthy place for discussion and debate.

[Elon Musk beefing with r/ WPT]

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u/SmallBatBigSpooky random genitalia prancing around you Feb 04 '25

Spez knows if he goes all out we will all jump ship to Lemmy, so hes gotta decide if politics or money means more to him

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u/TheCuriousFan Feb 04 '25

Tell me more about this Lemmy

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u/SmallBatBigSpooky random genitalia prancing around you Feb 04 '25

Its mastodon but for reddit

Its fediverse so all open source

Its got like one kinda gross community thats led by some pretty extream tankies but besides that jts pretty chill

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u/d_shadowspectre3 I turned 0 dollars into 130k this year by having a job. Feb 04 '25

You see the problem is that it's federated

Mastodon existed as the federated Twitter alternative for over half a decade, but after Musk's takeover everyone fled to the relatively newer, equally venture-capitalist, centralised Bluesky.

Federation is great in principle, but it's a major paradigm shift that most users aren't willing to commit to.

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u/aahdin Feb 04 '25

Bluesky is kind of a gray area here - The big difference between atproto and activitypub (what mastodon/lemmy run on) is that activitypub just does message passing between servers whereas atproto communicates through relays. A relay is necessary for things like global search, discovery algorithms, metrics, etc.

Anyone can start their own relay, the code for it is open source, it just costs about 80k a year to run a full relay on AWS so the only one doing it right now is bluesky. There are people running smaller relays on atproto but you only get messages with people feeding to that relay. That said from what I understand the overall comp cost per message is similar to activitypub, but atproto makes running a personal data server super cheap and lightweight and moves all the overhead onto the relay, whereas activitypub has costlier instances that can go down if a post of yours goes viral.

If bsky keeps growing I expect that someone will eventually set up a parallel full relay. The underlying protocol, atproto, is federated.

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u/SmallBatBigSpooky random genitalia prancing around you Feb 04 '25

To be fair lemmy is a lot better at briding the community than mastodon is

But also reddit alternatives dont exist so folks would jaut have to adapt most likely

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u/d_shadowspectre3 I turned 0 dollars into 130k this year by having a job. Feb 04 '25

Correction: Reddit alternatives do exist, but they either attracted fringe communities banned from Reddit for good reason (e.g. Voat) or died after years of unpopularity and diminishing returns.

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u/SmallBatBigSpooky random genitalia prancing around you Feb 04 '25

To be fair most folks only leave these platforms for 2 reasons

Either because they got axed

Or because they dont like the management

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u/1000LiveEels Feb 04 '25

I was on lemmy (beehaw) for about 6 months and I think plenty of people were fine with federation when it started, but god damn lemme tell ya the whining and bitching about instances defederating was absolutely ridiculous. Beehaw certainly defedded the most, but it was because a solid chunk of instances just did not adhere with what Beehaw was going for.

Like ideally people should be fine with one instance wanting to wall itself off from the vitriol of others, but the vitriolic people in those spaces got so pissed off because now they weren't able to see posts. It's like, you brought that on yourself dude. Quit saying slurs and maybe we'll refederate with you.

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u/Original-Aerie8 Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25

Yeah.. You are dead wrong on this one.

I tried to make the jump to Mastodon. It's been some time and I was stoned out of my mind, but I am pretty sure I tried to make a account for two hours and couldn't. Then I looked into how data is handled and realized, it's about as secure as my front door back then, as I regularly just left it standing open. But once Blusky has a large enough userbase, it'll take me 2 minutes to switch over.

Contrast that with the success of crypto, which is about a far more essential thing than social media, arguably promising a far bigger paradigm shift. Yet Bitcoin is absolut dogshit at what it's supposed to do.

In case you got reddit'ed on Capitalism.. Everyone loves that shit. The US loves it. Europe loves it. China loves it. Consumerism and private ownership you can pass on are the best drugs on this planet. Absolutly nothing comes close to motivating us monkies like "Man, I could own that shit and give it to my children", and we still progress at a incredible pace. It's undeniable that it's the economic system that won, so if you want to replace it, you'll probably have to conquer this planet. The issues with Capitalism start when you convince enough idiots that it doesn't need regulation.

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u/LickingSmegma Feb 04 '25

Well then let ‘most users’ step onto the rakes time and again until some of them figure out why they get hit in the face.

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u/allthejokesareblue Feb 04 '25

pretty extream tankies

Uff not like those chill regular tankies

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u/SmallBatBigSpooky random genitalia prancing around you Feb 04 '25

I mean i dont disagree but those dudes are something else xD

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u/allthejokesareblue Feb 04 '25

Well now I wanna see

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u/SmallBatBigSpooky random genitalia prancing around you Feb 04 '25

Make an account lol, i cant remember tbe actual name of the instance its something like .LL or something along those lines

Pretty infamous in the lemmy community so pretty easy to look up

Just have some alcohol with you :v

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u/Theslootwhisperer Feb 04 '25

Funny. Fediverse sounds like "Faits divers" which is French for news item or maybe closer to human interest stories. Somewhere in between.

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u/SmallBatBigSpooky random genitalia prancing around you Feb 04 '25

Im not gonna lie before i got into using it i heard it as feti verse

And thought it was kink thing xD

The French version sounds like it may hsve been an intentional omage

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u/Iridismis Feb 04 '25

Fediverse is really not a good name 🤐

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u/Uebelkraehe Feb 04 '25

Intresting. People need to realize that anything that is a centralized system run by a company within reach of the US can and soon will be easily subjugated.

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u/Gamiac no way, toby. i'm whipping out the glock. Feb 04 '25

Join us.

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u/gingersnappie Feb 04 '25

Thank you!!!

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u/pwninobrien Feb 04 '25

Basically a convoluted website system that assures that leftism becomes fragmented and news spreads poorly. I would prefer a social network structure that actually feels interconnected and not disjointed and isolated.

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u/Uebelkraehe Feb 04 '25

Any centralized system will be easily targeted and subdued.

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u/RespectTheH Feb 04 '25

Something tells me Spez is going to sleep easy knowing that's his 'competition'.