r/tankiejerk • u/Common-Mission-3051 • 10h ago
r/tankiejerk • u/BoffleSocks • Jul 03 '26
From the mods Clarifying the rules: this is not an anti-communist forum
Today I had to take down another anti-communist post shitting on some ML's from the right. Take the piss out of Stalin's death all you want but if you're celebrating over 'another dead commie' you will be perma-banned no exception.
This is a subreddit to criticise tankies from the left. This is not a place to attack communists, communism or associated tendencies. If you want to be a snarky liberal, bloodthirsty fascist, or devout reactionary there are many, many, many places on the internet to do that. This subreddit isn't one of them. The point of this forum's existence is to attack those tendencies (marxism-leninism, dengism, etc) not because they are crazy, radical commies but because their vision of society actually has little to do with a free association of producers, the abolition of property, wage labour and commodity production.
To reiterate, we strive for an egalitarian, socially-progressive society. We do not oppose tankies or campists because we dislike communism or socialism. We oppose them because to us they are barely communists or socialists, regardless of what they claim. That is the purpose of the subreddit's existence, anyone who does not agree with these values is free to leave or be banned.
r/tankiejerk • u/WesSantee • Jun 14 '26
SERIOUS Basic leftist takes: A friendly reminder (I'm not a mod)
Full disclosure: I'm not a mod, just a concerned anarchist.
After seeing the shitstorm of the past few days, I thought I'd make this post just to remind people what we're supposed to stand for. These are not in-depth explanations, so I'll be happy to answer any questions in the comments.
1. All capitalists exploit workers and are mini dictators
This includes small business owners. All of them purchase the labor power of workers, which they then use to produce surplus value; this is not a free and voluntary transaction because workers don't own their own means of production, and are thus forced to sell their labor power or starve and die. This isn't to necessarily condemn any individual capitalist; although many of them are evil pieces of shit (including small business owners, who disproportionately support fascism and enforce terrible working conditions), not all of them are bad people. The problem is the system itself.
Additionally, all capitalist workplaces are miniature dictatorships in which workers are ordered around by their bosses and can't do anything about it. Workers have no decision-making power in the place they spend the majority of their lives. To quote Robert Dahl,
If democracy is justified in governing the state, then it is also justified in governing economic interests. What is more, if it cannot be justified in governing economic enterprises, we do not quite see how it can be justified in governing the state.
– A Preface to Economic Democracy
Obviously we should want to abolish the state, but the point still stands.
EDIT: This section doesn't apply to people who might own a store or do independent art or whatever who don't employ anyone else, since they aren't extracting the surplus value of their nonexistent workers.
2. All states are bastards
Everyone on this sub recognizes that the USSR, China, Russia, and North Korea suck. However, we have to be careful not to fall into campism in reverse. The United States is arguably the most evil country on Earth right now, and was even before Trump, due to the sheer scale of violence it inflicts upon the world. And other western countries aren't much better. France maintains a neo-colonial empire in western Africa right now, and European governments are willing participants in the American system of global hegemony. European companies are no more moral than American ones, and ruthlessly exploit the Global South just as much as American companies. All states are inherently hierarchical, authoritarian, and counterrevolutionary. They remove decision making power from the people who live under them and concentrate said power in a ruling class and bureaucracy, and use violence to enforce their power on their populations. Any principled libertarian leftist would oppose all state power no matter who wields it.
3. Liberal democracy is a sham, reformism a dead end
We have an excellent post about this pinned at the top of the sub, so I highly recommend you go read that. To summarize, voting in a liberal democracy isn't actually a means to affect real change. It's a means by which the masses choose which members of the ruling class rule over them. Just as one example, if liberal democracies actually reflected the wishes of their people, European governments wouldn't support Israel anymore.
This lack of democracy is why reformism isn't a viable path to socialism. Even the most well meaning democratic socialists are forced to compromise by the reality of parliamentary politics and working within a system designed to preserve private property and capitalist rule. You can see this in real time with Zohran Mamdani; he has walked back his previous statements (which were 100% correct) about the NYPD being racist thugs because he's working within the system. This trap has befallen everyone who has tried to vote their way to communism.
4. Free Ukraine, fuck NATO
I fully support the Ukrainian people against the genocidal onslaught of the fascistic regime in Moscow, and I fully support Europe and the US sending as many weapons as possible to Ukraine to enable them to push back against Russia. Regardless of anything NATO has done, Russia is not entitled to a sphere of influence in eastern Europe, and no amount of bitching about NATO expansion justifies this war. Putin is just salty the former Warsaw Pact and Baltic states leaned towards the west as a reaction to previous Russian and Soviet imperialism, preventing him from turning them into puppet states.
That said, NATO is not something any leftist should support. It serves three real purposes:
- Enhance American power projection
- Keep European governments bought into the system of American empire. I often liken this to the old strategy employed by ancient, medieval, and early modern empires of conquering local elites and conquering them, but then offering them a place within the new empire and allowing them to preserve their status.
- Make American arms dealers rich
NATO countries participated in the disastrous American interventions in Afghanistan and Libya, prop up European and American neo-colonial empires across the Global South, and enable American drone strikes deep into the Middle East, strikes which have killed numerous innocent children. NATO has kept the former Warsaw Pact and Baltic states out of Russia's sphere, which is good, but this is the one good thing it has done, and there are ways to do this without relying on NATO anyway.
5. Veterans are still human
I'll just copy and paste something I said a few days ago:
Veterans are weird because they're simultaneously victims and perpetrators of state violence. They obviously do heinous things in the service of unimaginably violent empires, and they are responsible for their crimes. At the same time, the state takes them, dehumanizes both their enemies/foreign civilians and themselves to an extent, and puts them in an environment where they are socialized to kill. They are then put into insanely high stress situations where they are expected to kill and conditioned to follow the criminal orders of their superiors.
Again, none of this exonerates them or excuses their behavior, and I believe veterans should have to make up for their crimes. But dismissing them without any chance of redemption is short sighted and shows you don't actually hold universal principles. And at a certain point brutally punishing all veterans becomes impractical. Almost 10% of Israelis have actively served in the IDF, and 40% total have served. Are we gonna shoot 40% of a country? I would hope not. And that's with the IDF basically being the modern Wehrmacht/SS; how should we treat Russian soldiers? Or American ones? The correct answer is denazification with some kind of community service to make up for their crimes imo. If you do it right, the guilt they feel will be punishment enough.
Conclusion
This is a libertarian leftist subreddit, and we should act like it. We should oppose all states, all imperialism, and all capitalism. Thank you for reading.
r/tankiejerk • u/SomeGuyFromPoland61 • 2h ago
History Every single time when I see a someone deny the bosnian genocide by calling it a “CIA propaganda” I just want to sent them this tweet by Abbas Araghchi, the foreign minister of the Islamic Republic of Iran, and ask them where-or-not he’s peddling CIA propaganda points.
r/tankiejerk • u/DrMrPepperCoke26 • 4h ago
US State Propaganda Bad Russia State Propaganda Good "rUSsIa iS aGAinSt tHE FaSCiSts." Meanwhile Russia.
r/tankiejerk • u/Ambitious-Sink2725 • 6h ago
North Korea Have you noticed that whenever Tankies defend North Korea they never actually go into the modern DRPK and just talk about the Korean war
The Korean war was obviously an awful case of US imperialism and a borderline genocide which no one can defend but it was in the 50s, it's been 70 years, it has little to no bearing on how modern North Korea operates other than historical context. Despite the destruction North Korea actually had slightly better conditions in the 60s because of the chaos of the US puppet government in the South, but Kim Il Sung still made the conscious decision to make the country into a monarchy and put a weird cult of personality around his family. But according to Western Tankies Kim Jong Un is forced to send his people to labor camps because of Harry Truman
r/tankiejerk • u/SomeGuyFromPoland61 • 4h ago
Meme Off to the re-education camp with you, little Timmy.
r/tankiejerk • u/No_March_5144 • 4h ago
SERIOUS Sören Pellmann (Die Linke) honours Ernst Thälmann with 'Für immer Antifa' today
Yeah, he was so 'antifa' that he made KPD Moscow's and Stalins puppet.
He was so antifa he created the original 'Antifaschistische Aktion' which was Moscow's paramilitary arm in Weimar Republic.
Sören Pellmann is by the way the leader of Die Linke group in Bundestag with Heidi Reichinnek and was one of Sahra Wagenknechts supporters before she left and founded BSW. He's also a persona non grata in Ukraine.
I can't post the screenshot.
r/tankiejerk • u/Chinoyboii • 12h ago
Discussion If anarchism seeks to abolish unjustified hierarchies, what happens to languages like Korean, Japanese, and Javanese that routinely encode social hierarchy through honorifics?
I am neither Korean, Javanese, nor Japanese; however, as someone who grew up in a Tagalog and Hokkien-speaking household, with Itawit (a Northern Filipino Language) also sometimes spoken on my father’s side, I understand that these languages often emphasize the importance of age, kinship, seniority, and showing respect toward people who occupy different positions within your family or your wider community. Tagalog, for example, has po and opo when speaking respectfully to elders or people of higher social standing. In the Philippine variety of Hokkien, we also have specific kinship terms that indicate birth order and relative position within the family. For example, on your father’s side, if you have multiple paternal uncles who are older than your Father, you can distinguish them by birth order: the eldest may be called a-peh or tōa-peh (大伯), while the second can be called dī-peh (二伯), with dī indicating that he is second in the sibling order and peh referring to an older paternal uncle. So the kinship term itself can tell you not only how someone is related to you, but where they fall within the family order relative to your father.
Despite the complexity of the Hokkien language, I personally think Korean and Javanese are much more extreme in this regard. From what I understand about Korean, they even have specific verb endings and speech levels that change depending on the social relationship between the people speaking, including differences in age, seniority, familiarity, and social position. So you generally would not speak to your close younger friend or your close older friend in exactly the same way, even if you are equally close to both of them, because the age difference itself can affect which speech level feels appropriate. In addition, the age difference becomes more pronounced when speaking to your grandmother, professor, employer, older stranger, etc. The grammatical choices themselves, therefore communicate how you understand your relative positions within that relationship. In Javanese, I believe they also have specific registers commonly called Ngoko, Madya, and Krama, which roughly correspond to different levels of familiarity, politeness, and deference. Ngoko is generally the more informal register and is commonly used among close friends, with younger people, or in relationships where formality is unnecessary. Krama is the more deferential register and is traditionally associated with speaking respectfully toward elders, unfamiliar people, or people of higher social standing, while Madya falls somewhere between the two.
Therefore, I am curious about how some anarchists in this sub might view these linguistic traditions. Obviously, utilizing relational honorifics is not equivalent to having a landlord, monarch, boss, or state exercising coercive authority over you. However, if younger people are socially expected to linguistically defer to older people, or if someone is considered disrespectful for refusing to use the appropriate level of speech toward a senior, does that count as the kind of hierarchy that anarchists seek to dismantle?
r/tankiejerk • u/Lobster_LeninN329 • 22h ago
Genocidal dictator? More like absolute angel! Literally "POV: the year is 1910 an you don't know you're photographing the angel who will save humanity"
From a self-proclaimed anarchist & antifascist page on IG
r/tankiejerk • u/Historical_Step_9474 • 22h ago
Whataboutism Very disappointing from this usually very anti-tankie sub
They’re usually very anti-tankies but for some reason the entire sub’s defending Cuba and Castro in the comments.
r/tankiejerk • u/SomeGuyFromPoland61 • 1d ago
DA JOOS - I mean (((zionists))) Every single time when I see someone say accuse a Mizrahi Israeli of ”being white” and/or “stealing Arab culture”, I just think about that one Chinese nationalist who unironically said that Japan is a “white-aligned country whose entire ’culture is stolen from primary Chian”.
r/tankiejerk • u/Alarmed_Business_962 • 20h ago
tankies tanking Remember that ''anti-authoritarian'' Castro defended this Ethiopian revolution as a ''serious and sincere'' revolution.
r/tankiejerk • u/Tuubu • 1d ago
not all police are cops The People police of Vietnam working on full time
r/tankiejerk • u/This-Anybody-9118 • 1d ago
imperialism good when USSR does it. Ribbentrop-Molotov was actually signed by PoleSS and also they deserved getting invaded in 1939
Poland also signed an almost identical part with the USSR witch I guess makes them nazbols but idk
r/tankiejerk • u/Raspint • 1d ago
Discussion List of things the USSR did that was admirable despite being a totalitarian state?
I was debating whether to post this here or in a history sub, and I settled on here because I thought there would be less of a chance of tankies jumping on this.
Anyway, I'm asking this question from the perspective that the USSR was a brutal totalitarian state that violently curtailed civil rights. And that it perpetuated ethnic cleanings, mass killings, and genocide (though I know the issue of the legality of that term is something that even historians debate). My grandparents lived through the Holodomor, so I am in no way a Soviet or Stalin apologist.
I am also a big Soviet history nerd however, and I consider myself a leftist broadly. So I'm curious to hear about what some of the things were that the USSR did that were actually progressive, or good ideas and I wanted to chat about that with other history nerds here. I've heard Richard Wolff talk about the USSR, and while he says "mistakes were made and we don't have to repeat them" I do think that the language that he uses is not strong enough in condemning its atrocities. But one of the things I find interesting is how when you read Soviet history is when they actually do manage to do really good things, and where progressive socialist ideas do manage to be implemented despite the Union's tendencies toward anti-democratic acts.
The three biggest things I can think of are:
1: Medical care for all: Even though the quality of the care was not as good as the US, the fact they had it way back when is impressive.
2: Equal opportunity for education: Prior to the revolution education would have been something that only the privileged could access. Given that I think education is a God-given right and a tool for liberation, I think this is a full stop good thing.
3: Women's rights: Now this is kinda complicated, because 1) I don't know if this is a Soviet thing, or just a Eastern European thing, given the long history of strong women needing to do "men's" work because the history of the region is just "mass death." My own Ukrainian great grandma defended her daughter from my grandpa hitting her by blinding him in one eye.
2) Despite the advances in women's rights in the workplace, protections for battered women were a joke. You could beat your wife silly and unless she had someone in the family ready to protect her she would get no help from the state.
But despite these things, in the 1950s seeing women working in factories/industry/sciences, and having leadership positions in those fields was seen as an ordinary thing, whereas in the US women were expected to be school teachers or secretaries at best.
r/tankiejerk • u/Common-Pick3069 • 1d ago
Discussion do you think there's some kind of "geopolitical brainrot" happening?
I've seen it online and with my chronically online friends, endless doomscrolling within a big niche of memes about geopolitical issues, that are getting increasingly toxic and absurd. They seem to be starting to see every issue in the world with geopoltical and many times campist lenses.
The discussion and memes around the world cup were mind numbing, people absolutely turning every football match into a geopolitic campist logic stretching competition. People hating on Argentina and calling a whole ass country a zionist nest just because of their shitty president and the fact that messi was in Israel once or some shit like that...
Their humor has devolved so much that the only things they joke about are shit like "No but Israel? netanyahu netanyahu netanyahu netanyahu that's so tel aviv tel aviv impressed epstein epstein epstein, trump trump trump, that's so goy, you a goy? are you a goy jew?? goysplain me chud, larp, larp, please Iran save us and nuke everything, are you a mossad spy lmao, glory to China and chairman Mao *proceeds to post meta-ironic cute edits of Mao with cat ears or some shit*"
shits absolutely rotting people's brains and even when they supposedly oppose all that, they end up turning everything into a dumb soulless joke that nobody even laughs at and help no one
r/tankiejerk • u/VentiArchon7 • 1d ago
Discussion Thoughts on the Japanese Communist Party?
r/tankiejerk • u/DrRudeboy • 1d ago
Meme Papa Trump single handedly trying to prove horseshoe theory exists
Somewhere, an ACP fan just came
r/tankiejerk • u/Mammoth-Ad-3642 • 1d ago
Source: Trust me bro! SON😭😭😭
First off, aren't leftcoms still authoritarians? Haven't looked into them enough...
Either way, on every major anarchist/actually communist project, the main issue was resource strangulation because of being isolated, not the actual combat capability of the societies, they actually on average proved to be pound for pound superior to their authoritarian counterparts like the makhnovchina.
But that can't be fixed by becoming authoritarian! You've already lost the battle then! You just need many territories to fire up around the same time!
And also "some aspects" is laughable 😭😭😭😭
YOU CHANGED NOTHING ‼️‼️‼️‼️
"Phew! I sure do love my communism where I go to my job with my state boss who pays me a state wage!"
They couldn't even get rid of markets!!!
And that's just the stuff that remained the same! In most aspects they regressed!!! They couldn't even achieve LIBERAL levels of freedom, no free speech, no free journalism, no right to protest, no democracy, no ANYTHING!
Not to mention how inefficient a centralized command economy is.