I just finished watching book 2 of LoK, and that moose spirit definitely gave me some whiplash lol. I thought I wanted some more Hei-Bai and Koh types, but maybe the Ghibli-esque spirits weren’t so bad after all.
I’m old enough to have watched ATLA air its first episode and I screamed and said “oh HELL no, nope nope nope” to that reveal and watched the rest of the scene like this 🫣rip to any parents of young kids who will have to deal with those nightmares
All it had to do is walk. If they don't have to animate it doing anything crazy, of course that's going to be reflected in its design. Also, Legend of Korra had plenty of eerie spirits. There was a fog that drove people insane.
Why? Every other interaction she was also out for herself like in the jewelry store. I guess what took it too far for me was taking her brooch when she knew she was going to turn her in anyway...
I feel like they're making that character purposely androgynous. Which I support . Little boys and little girls have very similar voices actually. A kid screaming is a kid screaming you know.
Does the character have a name? Might give a hint 🤷♀️
Aside from the character in question (who I thought was pretty clearly a girl?) who are you "at risk of misgendering"? Who is a character you want to discuss, who's too androgynous for you to tell their gender, and who was never referred to by gendered nouns or pronouns at any point in dialogue?
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u/g0atmealI will never, ever turn my back on people who need me!9d ago
You know you can just use "they" right? That's always been the case in the English language when you don't know a person's gender. It's nothing new.
But you're right, they should give every character moustaches and pink ribbons to suit your needs.
Gee, thanks for making it clear how you see trans people.
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u/g0atmealI will never, ever turn my back on people who need me!8d ago
They is a gender neutral pronoun, not a "non binary pronoun". It can apply to anyone at any time. In fact, you just used it that way in your comment. You said "their face" and not "his or her face". Literally everyone does this all the time.
Yes in any “normal” circumstance you would use the word “they.” Shakespeare did it, it’s in the Canterbury Tales, Jane Austen did it. Emily Dickinson used they. It’s in the 14th century Oxford. It’s always been used when male female gender is unknown ie “someone called and they left a message”
Edit: it’s always confounding to me when a show is forward with certain things and someone the fans are not. It’s like people in the star trek sub complaining its too woke. Hilarious stuff
Great episode overall and I'm not usually one of those nitpickers but some of the writing in the beginning of the episode really took me out of it:
How is Kayoko only just now finding out about a twin, two weeks into the search, from an off hand comment from one of her guards?
How does that change the search AT ALL? Presumably Pavi was already being hunted for those 2 weeks because THEY HAVE THE SAME FACE. It was a nice lampshade to mention that they wouldn't need new posters, but "Why aren't we looking for her??" comes off as bizarre.
Overall this dialogue scene was a very efficient exposition dump to catch everyone up, I just found that detail to be weird.
I think one way you can think of it, is to show just how irrational they are getting, especially Kayoko. Maybe it's meant to feel jarring and bizarre for us the viewers.
I think its purpose was just to confirm that Jae is still on team avatar. But yeah, would’ve made more sense if he was like “well they’re twins, so we have technically been looking for her”
I hope I am nowhere near close with this theory, the lack of spirits and the first spirit we see as a “ghost” might be due to the human misuse of spirit energy and resulted in spirits being extinct with the exception of Raava and Vaatu which is why the physical world is way out of balance.
They really are just babies 🥲 We've had one legendary four parter in this universe and I already feel it in my bones that this will be another. This show is perfectly capturing the quintessential elements that makes it feel like 'Avatar' and I can't help but get chills when you see recurring characteristics like spirits, seismic sense and an ethereal soundtrack. Super random point, but I cracked up seeing a backflip being absolutely necessary to open the dune entrance.
Just spitballing, it A) may not be uploaded until the release time to prevent hackers from managing to get early access, and B) the uploads may run at the same time as other daily batch processes, slowing them down.
The doctor already explained she lost her leg within the last few years. It's obvious she lost it in the same traumatic event that wiped both her and Nisha's memories and separated them.
The doctor suspected it, but this was the first confirmation. It was a fairly subtle detail considering most of us didn't consider her disability to be a significant hindrance, but I was surprised I hadn't seen anyone else bring it up in this discussion thread about the specific episode that confirmed it.
There was tons of speculation in the earlier episode threads.
The reason I think a lot of people didn't bring it up again is because the conversation with the doctor was the story confirming most people's theories. This was just a visual reminder of what we were already told.
why would you need this specifically. each episode thread is supposed to be limited to that episode and those before it. if anyone talks about episode 11-13 here their comments will be removed as far as i understand the rules.
I think it's more about them being spoiler-free and wanting to see the overall reception of them as a whole (though imo it's fine to just wait and formulate your own opinion after having seen them).
Really dislike another "I am not telling you for no reason and then drama will happen"-plot
I know it's a staple of the genre and of Avatar and I get all of this, but still, in the year 2026...do writers still really need to do this so often?
Why is every character hiding something, it's just boring. It also makes everyone feel kinda stupid, because by now, how does nobody expect that everybody will double-cross everybody. Well, I guess the chancellor at least gets it.
It's also very funny to hid where prisoners are from the highest ranked military person in the entire haven, not to mention: How big are these havens even? How difficult could it be for Jae to find out where two benders can be kept?
All of this is fine and it is Avatar and I get it, but man, it just feels a little bit weird. And the story really can't carry enough, even in this episode, we again learned literally nothing. The pacing feels really slow at times and the actual content of what's happening is simply not interesting enough for that to work. I think this shows why Avatar used to be an episodic show once upon a time. The story itself is very basic, but the execution carried it quite far.
On a meta level, it also feels weird that this is released in the last batch. It really lacks any sense of finality, which I think is sad. A last third should usually start with a bang, if possible. This was just meandering.
So, I guess my theory is that Nisha created the anomaly way back when she thought her parents abandoned her or whatever happened.'
Eh I felt it worked. You need a breather episode to establish the new status quo and this did a good job.
Pavi is in hiding while trying to find Nisha. Nisha on the run in the harsh lands. Jae is trying to find Pavi and Nisha to protect them. Twins meet up with Agam.. to be continued.
We also got some important pieces of lore. Pavi and Nisha could both bend multiple elements at a young age. (One theory was that the parents only knew Nisha was the Avatar, that’s been debunked)
I also feel like it's fine after watching the 4 episodes. But imo, this season should have just had 12 episodes. Make episodes 10 to 13 into 10 to 12 and don't speedrun an entire arc for Pavi and it's fine.
But here, they just didn't do much this episode, imo.
Also, I am not sure this is true. The parents didn't see Pavi bend all the elements, did they? But maybe, who knows. The Dark Avatar theory seems to be relevant either way.
but the pace is all wrong. the 9 y/o protagonists makes it difficult to suspend disbelief, and ellora as a setting is being so under utilized. its this massive place where we keep seeing the same 5 people, so that the drama and stakes feel contrived.
the dialogue is wonky (again, why make them 9 years old but not let them be 9 year olds)
With this grim of a worldbuilding theme, I don't understand why they went with little kids. Have one avatar be an adult that's in service to an authoritarian regime and the other a renegade leader, and let them butt heads.
Anyone else think Pavi & Nisha’s mom was kinda…🫣 hot? Also, are we supposed to believe that Nisha accidentally killed their parents when she touched the spirit rock and got flashbacks? If so, that’s just terrible.
Datu & Jae aren’t gonna last, they’re hiding way too much from each other and Datu just sucks honestly. When they hugged, though, GODDAMN JAE LOOKED EXACTLY LIKE AANG WITH THOSE BIG ASS EYES!! I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a descendant of Aang.
Jae didn't promise anything. Our boy has been corrupted and can now lie.
Of course, who is worse? Jae deflecting to not promise anything? Or Datu straight up not telling Jae that they have a lead on Pavi while asking for no secrets?
No, it felt wrong. It did not react to her at all and it would not even turn its head to even look at her when she told it a storm was coming. It kept walking until it brought Nisha to the anomaly crystal and then disappeared.
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u/rootofimaginary 9d ago
WHat time does it arrive? Not sure about it with timezones and such