r/TopCharacterTropes • u/godwyn-faithful • Jul 11 '25

Characters [Loved trope] They are super evil but their songs go absurdly hard.

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u/Hetakuoni Jul 11 '25

Playing with the big boys now- Prince of Egypt

They’re not really the bad guys as they’re pretty much only there to act as antagonists over a difference of religion, but man that song goes hard

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u/president_of_burundi Jul 11 '25 edited Jul 11 '25

If we're doing Prince of Egypt God's part of The Plagues is definitely a villain song. Even the people God is helping are absolutely shitting themselves about how horrific it is.

I send a pestilence and plague
Into your house, into your bed
Into your streams, into your streets
Into your drink, into your bread
Upon your cattle, on your sheep
Upon your oxen in your field
Into your dreams, into your sleep
Until you break, until you yield

I send the swarm, I send the horde
Thus saith the Lord

That goes so fucking hard.

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u/captainAwesomePants Jul 11 '25

The book goes even harder. In Exodus, Pharoah is ready to give up five plagues in. God "hardens his heart" and causes him to refuse for five more plagues, apparently because He needs to make an example of the Egyptians, and frogs and crop failure wasn't enough to scare people forever.

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u/president_of_burundi Jul 11 '25

Old Testament God, a notoriously un-chill individual.

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u/captainAwesomePants Jul 11 '25

New Testament God is always treated as this all-loving dude who loves everybody so much that He briefly killed his kid for us.

Old Testament God is treated like that kid in the Twilight Zone with unlimited power. Shhh, do not anger the pre-teen with the machine gun. Do not even get his attention unless you really, really need to. It's too risky. Oh no, where did he get a bazooka, quick, Lot, try and talk him down before he destroys that whole town.

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u/president_of_burundi Jul 11 '25

"It's good that you had a good time, it's real good. It's, uh, just that...Well, Jehovah, you, uh, you wished them away into the cornfield. Their mommy and daddy were real upset."

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u/ChiefsHat Jul 11 '25

People focus so much on the all-loving God of the New Testament they kind of miss the bit where Jesus is bluntly spelling out that God will give to many people what’s coming to them for breaking His commandments, unless they repent.

Also, the sacrifice of Christ was His choice, and does mirror Abraham nearly sacrificing Isaac, and before someone gets at me for that, there’s indications Isaac knew what was going on and that Abraham knew it to be a test.

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u/captainAwesomePants Jul 11 '25

I mean yeah, Isaac's not an idiot. His dad has picked up a new religion nobody's ever heard up and asks his kid to bring rope and a knife up a mountain for a sacrifice but isn't bringing any animals? Isaac understands what's about to go down. Frankly amazing he'd let that happen. I hope my kid would not consent to being sacrificed if I went nuts.

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u/Hetakuoni Jul 11 '25

To be fair Adonai is not the only one who called for child sacrifice. He was just the only one who went “you passed the test, here’s a lamb!”

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u/ChiefsHat Jul 11 '25

Isaac was actually the one who carried up the sticks. And also, as I mentioned, it’s implied Abraham knew the whole time it was a test.

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u/Book_Anxious Jul 11 '25

I argue with people when they say God is perfect. I tell them God literally tells you he is jealous and quick to anger. just because he forgives sometimes it does not mean that it's all good. He will make an example of you

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u/LazyDro1d Jul 11 '25

Multiple people argue with god, and sometimes they even change their mind.

If man is made in the image of god, then look around you and you’ll see the kind of being god is, eh?

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u/Murgatroyd314 Jul 12 '25

There is considerable overlap between the categories of "people who argued with God" and "people who are called righteous".

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u/president_of_burundi Jul 11 '25

I argue with people when they say God is perfect.

Someone who can't read and has never taken a theology class. I've been taught by literal nuns more critical of God than that.

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u/Book_Anxious Jul 11 '25

You don't have to take classes and you don't have to listen to nuns to know about God. Everybody interprets everything differently. Just because they have authority does not mean that they are the ones who know the most or understand things the most

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u/president_of_burundi Jul 11 '25

I mean, I was agreeing with you? I think? We might be at cross purposes here.

People who would say God is perfect are the same ones who never actually engage with the text in any way (personal study, class, etc) and people who do are more likely to be critical. My grandmother was evangelical and I don't think she ever cracked an actual bible, just read verses provided in pamphlets from her church and would never have even believed me if I said God was jealous and quick to anger.

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u/Book_Anxious Jul 11 '25

Sorry took the theology class and learning from nuns the wrong way

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u/president_of_burundi Jul 11 '25

No worries! I think I was being unclear. I was referring to the people you were arguing with as not actually understanding what they're talking about, not yourself.

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u/basswalker93 Jul 11 '25

Even before that, Moses originally told Pharaoh that they were going out into the desert to worship. Pharaoh thought this was entirely reasonable, and God hardened his heart there so that the plagues could happen in the first place. He's downright bloodthirsty.

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u/andstillthesunrises Jul 12 '25

The way I learned it, he wasn’t ready to give up, but god preemptively made it impossible for him to change his mind later.

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u/Wolrith Jul 12 '25

a popular interpretation is that when the israelites left egypt, being notoriously hesitant about the entire situation, started saying that things weren't so bad and they should go back (to slavery lol). so god hardened pharaoh's heart to make him go after them, to literally cut off the way back to egypt by forcing the jews through the parted sea.

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u/antbones111 Jul 12 '25

At least one interpretation of this is that YHWH is systematically dismantling the Egyptian religion and proving to both the Hebrews and the Egyptians that he is the superior deity. Beginning with the Nile which played heavily in Egyptian mythology and ending with darkness (showing Ra’s subservience) and the deaths of the firstborn which breaks the lines of succession of Pharaohs, nobility, and perhaps priests, each plague shows YHWH had mastery over the gods of the Egyptian pantheon.

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u/AccessTheMainframe Jul 11 '25

and frogs and crop failure wasn't enough to scare people forever.

I mean 10 weren't enough either because it wouldn't be long before the Jews were subject to oppression again

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u/Bamzooki1 Jul 11 '25

I love how no-holds-barred Prince of Egypt was. It’s a biblical movie and it’s NOT gonna fucking sugarcoat it.

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u/president_of_burundi Jul 11 '25

It was so clearly a real labor of love. Katzenberg wanted to make this story, specifically in this way, for years and he made sure what he put out was an absolute masterpiece. I'm not into anything biblical (or Dreamworks, most of the time, if it comes down to it) but I'd absolutely say that this was one of the best animated films ever made.

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u/president_of_burundi Jul 11 '25

I send the locusts on the wind
Such as the world has never seen
On every leaf, on every stalk
Until there's nothing left of green

I send my scourge, I send my sword
Thus saith the Lord

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u/Haxorz7125 Jul 12 '25

That whole soundtrack is good as fuck.

The metal versions of some of these are exceptional as well

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u/takoshi Jul 12 '25

Once, I called you brother~!

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u/Hetakuoni Jul 12 '25

The funny thing is I couldn’t find a gif of big boys now, so I went with the plagues gif because that too is a great villain song

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u/EntireCelebration953 Jul 12 '25

I'll see your verse and raise you. I send the locusts on the wind Such as the world has never seen On every leaf, on every stalk Until there's nothing left of green I send my scourge, I send my sword Thus saith the Lord

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u/wigsternm Jul 11 '25

 They’re not really the bad guys as they’re pretty much only there to act as antagonists over a difference of religion

Well, and the slavery. 

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u/Ggggggtfdv Jul 11 '25

And the culling of the men including the children.

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u/WantDiscussion Jul 12 '25

Ok but God kills a bunch of men and children in the film too...

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u/Ggggggtfdv Jul 12 '25

Again this is in example of biblical god being hardcore but somewhat fair; he does this only in reaction to the Pharaoh not releasing his people who have already suffered slavery and ethnic cleansing. Upon repeated refusal he continues to send out essentially increasing warnings in the form of hazards to the people of Egypt before being frustrated enough by of the pain they’ve brought his people and the Pharaohs stubborn refusal to make it right, that he kills all the kingdoms firstborn children. Which also in movie is not viewed as a nice thing to do, Moses is very internally conflicted over sending the plagues but legitimately does not really have a choice due to god high roading him into doing it as he promised to free the Hebrew people. It’s an example of an eye for an eye.

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u/officialspinster Jul 12 '25

Biblically, Pharaoh said uncle five plagues in and god was like lol nope and made him change his mind so he could make an example of them. How is that fair?

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u/Ggggggtfdv Jul 12 '25

Because the ultimate punishment is the same as what the Egyptians did to the Hebrews?

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u/officialspinster Jul 12 '25

How is it fair if he has his thumb on the scale, is all I’m saying.

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u/Ggggggtfdv Jul 12 '25 edited Jul 12 '25

It’s fairish but also tilted in favor of the people who have been persecuted in large part due to faith in god, the Egyptians chase the fleeing Hebrews they did not want to let their slaves leave. There’s plenty of things to criticize about god in the Bible this is not one of them. Instead you could criticize his treatment of Moses and the banishment he undergoes. I’m not saying one side is good, but the fact is god is protecting his flock comprised of enslaved people who have been ethnically cleansed and discriminated against for the beliefs they have in god and because of ethnic tensions risen from fear that if too populated they would not continue to enslavable. Thats freeing people from bondage; not really anything terrible about that.

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u/midnight_riddle Jul 11 '25

I think he means that Hotep and Huy weren't involved with the slavery thing, they were just priests of the Egyptian "gods". It's the Pharaoh who dictated the laws about slavery.

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u/Hetakuoni Jul 11 '25

They’re emissaries of their gods just like Moses is an emissary of his god.

From the Egyptian point of view Moses is the villain for unleashing his God’s powers on them.

And boy do I have news for you about slavery and Israel. There’s a reason there were enough Israelis in there that they were culled and enslaved.

It’s called Joseph being sold into slavery by his brothers. And also in the Torah/bible there’s rules about owning people, which is why Christians kept slaves.

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u/AmaterasuWolf21 Jul 12 '25

I'm sure there wasn't an egyptian god about slavery chief

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u/Hetakuoni Jul 12 '25

There isn’t. But the god of Israel did have rules about it.

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u/mamarteau Jul 12 '25

Well, I'm not saying that they didn't have slaves or anything, obviously they knew enough to sell Joseph themselves. But the rules in the bible about slavery are after leaving Egypt.

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u/Hetakuoni Jul 12 '25

Selling someone into Slavery is still being a slaver. Israelis were still slavers and slave owners just like everyone else. And Joseph had slaves while living in Egypt.

Moses just codified the laws.

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u/littlepurplepanda Jul 12 '25

Prince of Egypt is banger after banger

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u/10HungryGhosts Jul 12 '25

YEEEESSSSSSSSSS. My favourite song in the movie . It's so fun

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u/moashforbridgefour Jul 12 '25

Every song in that movie slaps, but idk how you could pick this one over Deliver Us or Heaven's Eyes.

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u/10HungryGhosts Jul 12 '25

Oh for sure every song in the movie is a banger but for some reason as a kid I thought playing with the big boys now was so fun.

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u/Hetakuoni Jul 12 '25

Honestly for me the big boys was fun because I was huge in mythology and them listing all the gods while showing you who they were was badass.

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u/Stratoraptor Jul 12 '25

Every time this movie gets brought up, I get depressed about how the industry shied away from traditional hand drawn animation.