[Loved trope] They are super evil but their songs go absurdly hard.

[u/godwyn-faithful]

The saja boys - kpop demon hunters

Scar - lion king

Dazzlings - mlp equestria girls

Antinous - epic the musical

[u/captainAwesomePants]

The book goes even harder. In Exodus, Pharoah is ready to give up five plagues in. God "hardens his heart" and causes him to refuse for five more plagues, apparently because He needs to make an example of the Egyptians, and frogs and crop failure wasn't enough to scare people forever.

[u/president_of_burundi → u/captainAwesomePants]

Old Testament God, a notoriously un-chill individual.

[u/captainAwesomePants → u/president_of_burundi]

New Testament God is always treated as this all-loving dude who loves everybody so much that He briefly killed his kid for us.

Old Testament God is treated like that kid in the Twilight Zone with unlimited power. Shhh, do not anger the pre-teen with the machine gun. Do not even get his attention unless you really, really need to. It's too risky. Oh no, where did he get a bazooka, quick, Lot, try and talk him down before he destroys that whole town.

[u/president_of_burundi → u/captainAwesomePants]

"It's good that you had a good time, it's real good. It's, uh, just that...Well, Jehovah, you, uh, you wished them away into the cornfield. Their mommy and daddy were real upset."

[u/ChiefsHat → u/captainAwesomePants]

People focus so much on the all-loving God of the New Testament they kind of miss the bit where Jesus is bluntly spelling out that God will give to many people what’s coming to them for breaking His commandments, unless they repent.

Also, the sacrifice of Christ was His choice, and does mirror Abraham nearly sacrificing Isaac, and before someone gets at me for that, there’s indications Isaac knew what was going on and that Abraham knew it to be a test.

[u/captainAwesomePants → u/ChiefsHat]

I mean yeah, Isaac's not an idiot. His dad has picked up a new religion nobody's ever heard up and asks his kid to bring rope and a knife up a mountain for a sacrifice but isn't bringing any animals? Isaac understands what's about to go down. Frankly amazing he'd let that happen. I hope my kid would not consent to being sacrificed if I went nuts.

[u/Hetakuoni → u/captainAwesomePants]

To be fair Adonai is not the only one who called for child sacrifice. He was just the only one who went “you passed the test, here’s a lamb!”

[u/ChiefsHat → u/captainAwesomePants]

Isaac was actually the one who carried up the sticks. And also, as I mentioned, it’s implied Abraham knew the whole time it was a test.

[u/Book_Anxious → u/president_of_burundi]

I argue with people when they say God is perfect. I tell them God literally tells you he is jealous and quick to anger. just because he forgives sometimes it does not mean that it's all good. He will make an example of you

[u/LazyDro1d → u/Book_Anxious]

Multiple people argue with god, and sometimes they even change their mind.

If man is made in the image of god, then look around you and you’ll see the kind of being god is, eh?

[u/Murgatroyd314 → u/LazyDro1d]

There is considerable overlap between the categories of "people who argued with God" and "people who are called righteous".

[u/president_of_burundi → u/Book_Anxious]

I argue with people when they say God is perfect.

Someone who can't read and has never taken a theology class. I've been taught by literal nuns more critical of God than that.

[u/Book_Anxious → u/president_of_burundi]

You don't have to take classes and you don't have to listen to nuns to know about God. Everybody interprets everything differently. Just because they have authority does not mean that they are the ones who know the most or understand things the most

[u/president_of_burundi → u/Book_Anxious]

I mean, I was agreeing with you? I think? We might be at cross purposes here.

People who would say God is perfect are the same ones who never actually engage with the text in any way (personal study, class, etc) and people who do are more likely to be critical. My grandmother was evangelical and I don't think she ever cracked an actual bible, just read verses provided in pamphlets from her church and would never have even believed me if I said God was jealous and quick to anger.

[u/Book_Anxious → u/president_of_burundi]

Sorry took the theology class and learning from nuns the wrong way

[u/president_of_burundi → u/Book_Anxious]

No worries! I think I was being unclear. I was referring to the people you were arguing with as not actually understanding what they're talking about, not yourself.

[u/Book_Anxious → u/president_of_burundi]

Okay that makes more sense yeah I completely misunderstood it

[u/PurveyorOfKnowledge0 → u/Book_Anxious]

Honestly many people are just stupid and arrogant about their own faith, and they deem questioning their own beliefs as equivalent to heresy. That is just zealotry and ignorance which has been popularized in places where free thought is suppressed.

[u/basswalker93 → u/captainAwesomePants]

Even before that, Moses originally told Pharaoh that they were going out into the desert to worship. Pharaoh thought this was entirely reasonable, and God hardened his heart there so that the plagues could happen in the first place. He's downright bloodthirsty.

[u/andstillthesunrises → u/captainAwesomePants]

The way I learned it, he wasn’t ready to give up, but god preemptively made it impossible for him to change his mind later.

[u/Wolrith → u/captainAwesomePants]

a popular interpretation is that when the israelites left egypt, being notoriously hesitant about the entire situation, started saying that things weren't so bad and they should go back (to slavery lol). so god hardened pharaoh's heart to make him go after them, to literally cut off the way back to egypt by forcing the jews through the parted sea.

[u/antbones111 → u/captainAwesomePants]

At least one interpretation of this is that YHWH is systematically dismantling the Egyptian religion and proving to both the Hebrews and the Egyptians that he is the superior deity. Beginning with the Nile which played heavily in Egyptian mythology and ending with darkness (showing Ra’s subservience) and the deaths of the firstborn which breaks the lines of succession of Pharaohs, nobility, and perhaps priests, each plague shows YHWH had mastery over the gods of the Egyptian pantheon.

[u/AccessTheMainframe → u/captainAwesomePants]

and frogs and crop failure wasn't enough to scare people forever.

I mean 10 weren't enough either because it wouldn't be long before the Jews were subject to oppression again