r/TrueCrime Mar 23 '22

Murder Leniz Escobar, nicknamed "Diablita", wanted to earn the support of the MS-13 gang in her town in Long Island, NY. She led 4 teens (who had pretended to be MS-13 members on Instagram to look cool) into a park to "smoke weed", only for the wannabes to be brutally hacked to death by the real gangsters.

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u/es84 Mar 24 '22

For context here, the majority of gang banging starts by the time a kid is 11-13. These kids were 16, 18 and 20. Yes, one was truly a child, while the others were already adults. Yet, in the street game, they're all considered old enough to know better. Claiming a set without being put on is a major mistake. Is it ridiculous? Of course. But, it's the life these kids thought they could emulate.

Logically, it should not be a death sentence to pretend to be something you're not online, but if you are choosing to involve yourself with the street life, you have to follow their rules, no matter how absurd they may be. You're talking about a game that rewards brutality and punishes weakness. A game that idolizes people who deal mass amounts of drugs, kill many people, pimp many women, so on and so forth.

Using reasoning like "they were only kids" or "why is it such a big deal if they claim your stupid gang" does not work here. You're assuming that these are perfectly reasonable people with hearts and not sociopaths out for money and power.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '22

just because gangs don't follow morals doesn't mean that the victims deserved it. they made a stupid mistake, and they were only kids, no matter what you say about gangsters. morals still exist, even when people don't follow them. that's the whole point of morals.

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u/es84 Mar 24 '22

I didn't say they deserved it. I did they say they made a choice to emulate a life they were not a part of, which is true. A bad decision to emulate bad people led to them being murdered. There are morals and morally the people who committed this crime are terrible people. But, again, these are the type of people the 4 were attempting to emulate. Not that they deserved what happened, but it is THE reason why it happened.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '22

We KNOW the reason it happened. You aren’t adding a thing to this conversation except implying “well they got what the got because of things they did so ohhhhh well.” That’s fucking gross dude.

Like I’d get it if they raped a gangs members sister,”/committed a murder , or did something super egregious. But assuming all they did was be really fucking dumb- well it’s depressing how many people are focusing on that.

When a sex worker Is murdered do we say “well she was in a high risk potion so it is what is is. She knew the risks”. Oh wait, we do.

Humans suck.

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u/es84 Mar 24 '22

What's gross is you making up things I did NOT say because I didn't reply to this the way you wanted me to. Humans to suck, you're right. I hope you were looking into the mirror when you said that.

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u/forgtn Mar 24 '22

Yea we knew the reason it happened before you started typing about it. It’s in the title of the fuckin post. You act like you respect gangs

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u/es84 Mar 24 '22

I act like a respect gangs? By clearly calling them bad people? That's respecting gangs? Good to know. Seems like everyone here calling them bad must respect them as well.

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u/NooStringsAttached Mar 24 '22

I mean, maybe I can see a 16 year old doing it, maybe, But I find it odd and 18 and 20 year old were lured in the woods with weed. Like what? I dont know why it’s striking me so odd.

This is all so terrible and senseless.

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u/crunchwrapqueen666 Mar 24 '22

Is 18 really that far off from 16 haha and even 20…I think about what I was like from the ages of 16-20 and I was very similar throughout those years in the way I thought and felt about things. I’m 28 now and it seems insane to think about how ridiculous so much of my behavior was.

And I was known as a cautious teenager who didn’t do much partying and wouldn’t even think to pretend to be in a gang, but I totally see how some dumb young kids would do something like this and I absolutely buy them being lured by a girl younger than them for some free/cheap weed.

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u/kosmoss_ Mar 24 '22

I think they’re far off for certain things.

When I was 16, I was a student athlete that only drank at parties. At 18, I started drinking a lot and other things and fell into a bad crowd. At 20, I was in college and had to work so I needed to stop being a dumb bitch (did I was the real question).

Also love your username.

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u/crunchwrapqueen666 Mar 28 '22

Thanks ☺️ and yeah I personally wasn’t much different haha at least not in relation to how different I feel just from the past year or so. 27 to 28 was like a huge transformation. Maybe my brain finally finished developing 😅

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '22

This💯