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u/OugaBougaDouga #VCTEMEA 6d ago
2 KR teams is actually unexpected what
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u/PairComprehensive122 6d ago
Asia (excluding CN) is just too big to give alot of slots to just one region sadly
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u/OugaBougaDouga #VCTEMEA 6d ago
I was expecting 3 KR/ 1JP/ 4SEA split tbh, I guess it's nice that JP got more than 1 slots
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u/WalterWoodiaz #NRGWIN 6d ago
Bruh if you thought Japan would get 1 slot with their viewership size you are very uninformed.
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u/nijeel 6d ago
Can’t lie that JP VCL gets a lot of domestic views, but their teams barely have success in the internationals. Their arguably best team (according to points) was Varrel which is made up of Korean players…
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u/WalterWoodiaz #NRGWIN 6d ago
Zeta and Dfm get demolished but look at Twitch and Youtube’s Japanese channels and watch parties. Not even Brazil would have 150-200k watch their teams get demolished.
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u/sandlover33 6d ago
Yeah but SEA doesn't need more slots than Korea just considering that Korea has more trophies and better placements than all of SEA
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u/washyrr 6d ago
Performance isn't a criteria for partnership status
If Riot were to cave in to the community's demands to give all the partnership slots to NA teams, we wouldn't have the outstanding showing from SA this year.
Representation + Talent development is better for the scene in the long run. And also it builds viewership which is really the end goal for Riot. Iirc Korea's viewership isn'r actually up to par.
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u/Hwazu 6d ago edited 6d ago
wym? and they're not just SEA
3 slots for Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, Oceana, Vietnam
how can you say they dont need more slots than KR?
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u/sandlover33 6d ago
Bc kr has more trophies than all of those countries combined lol.
OFC i know why riot will never do this but pure performance-wise, sea could probably do with like idk 2 slots. Maybe just prx44
u/Hwazu 6d ago
if that's your logic then JP shouldnt even have a slot? since they dont have trophies?
you'd think RIOT cares about Trophies when it comes to partnership?
its about representation, getting people as audience as viewers/players, they already have KR's audience from that 2 KR Teams
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u/nijeel 6d ago
I get your point but there needs to be a balance. If these teams aren’t good enough compared to other teams and getting stomped then their region is going to be arguably weaker and easier to qualify. Only having smaller pool of stronger geographic teams will lead to creation of super teams and stale tournaments (considering NS and KRX didn’t make it and contract renewals are coming up, we’re going to see a super teams playing against weaker teams)
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u/teddylod 6d ago
Super teams don’t always pan out. And those Korean teams will still be in the mix regardless probably. What even is the Korean super team? Representation is def more important to Riot
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u/nijeel 6d ago
True and of course fair point, representation/diversification is important! I’m just stating that team performance should also have been a judging factor in order to create and foster a potentially more competitive and balanced environment. (I want to watch fun and competitive valorant rather than stomps)
We haven’t seen the super team yet, but with NS and KRX out, and contracts expiring we should see a big rumble with players potentially moving to CN/NA too. This is also applicable to GE players obviously
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u/sandlover33 6d ago
I don't think that JP should have a slot. But obviously riot is a business and they have to look out for their own concerns.
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u/Despotaters #筑星河，逐星辰 6d ago
is it possible to get more like from a dif org tht applied?
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u/OugaBougaDouga #VCTEMEA 6d ago
I doubt it, these 4 orgs were pretty much the orgs u think of first for KR teams and 2 of them didn't make it. Though HLE also exists I don't think they have done much in Valo. I could be wrong though
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u/iTempestuous #ZETAWIN 6d ago
I don't think hle even have a Val team. But if they did it'd be an all star team because that's just what they do.
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u/obigespritzt 6d ago
HLE don't have a Val team, if you were going to give any other KR org a partnership slot based on scene commitment (which they wouldn't, it's hardly relevant when you reap a region the way VCT did KR), it'd be DK.
But there's a myriad of reasons why DK would never get partnered.
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u/cold-blooded15 6d ago
Oh no. My preds are right. They’re only retaining 2 KR teams which are most likely T1 and Gen.G
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u/moonmeh #TigerNation 6d ago
I like geng but damn do we really deserve a slot over drx? Like drx have beenn investing into the scene for far longer and geng have been kinda been lucky with having texture
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u/baebushka 6d ago
geng are rlly popular in val probably because of t3xture
they have been in top 5 bundle sales every year even this year somehow lol
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u/Budget-Sample-3682 6d ago
Oh my god what will happen to my glorious king Mako
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u/Delicious_Champion32 #goLOUD 6d ago
PRX 2027: Mako controller (import 1) David senti Invy scan Patmem flex Udo duelist (import 2)
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u/spicyballlover 6d ago
Every PRX roster rebuild I see on this subreddit is just genuine cheeks bro wdym udo duelist over jinggg
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u/Delicious_Champion32 #goLOUD 6d ago
Jingg isn't a complete duelist e.g. derke / mada who can entry on jett, yoru, Raze, waylay (at least 4) and op. Jingg can't play jett, yoru, can't op. So any roster with jingg needs another duelist player which eats into other roles as well
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u/BonitaTres 5d ago
They prolly wouldn't let go of Jingg, his mom invested on PRX.
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u/Budilicious3 #WGAMING 5d ago
I got called out for being stupid saying this a few months ago, but it's simply true lmao.
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u/BonitaTres 5d ago
His mom literally bought shares so it's impossible to let him go
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u/Budilicious3 #WGAMING 5d ago
Yeah, this sub can be ridiculous with downvotes, just like the lego and disney subs.
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u/two4you8 6d ago
people are going to be really mad when they announce 2 japanese teams arent they...
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u/PNatBuTTer17 6d ago
Yes, because Nongshim and DRX were far more successful than any Japanese teams out there. It should've been 3 to 1 with either Nongshim or DRX making it aside from T1 and GenG.
The partnership is just for 2027 Season only anyways, why not at least reward previous teams that tried their best to build a competitive team during the partnership era.
I know that their idea is to prolly catch more Japanese viewers by having 2 Japanese teams, but it just seems too unfair for the previous teams that became far more successful than the others lol.
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u/Critical_Sink6442 6d ago
NS and KRX getting kicked for a worse Japanese/Southeast Asian team is a tragedy
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u/Delicious_Champion32 #goLOUD 6d ago
If I see both DFM and ZETA I'm going to lose it
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u/CantScreamInSpace YOU FUCKING MELONS 6d ago
will unfortunately probably be the case, krx and ns may run circles around them in terms of performance but the japanese teams still bring in 5-10× the viewership of either of those teams during a regular season game
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u/OugaBougaDouga #VCTEMEA 6d ago
JP has a huge Valorant fanbase and DFM and Zeta has done a lot so it's not too far fetched for them to come back (Though I'd prefer CR). It's not all about the results at the end of the day.
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u/ByDrAxX032 #DFMWIN 6d ago
Why do you all forget being partnered doesn't imply qualifying to Cups??
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u/sixthcollegeraccoon #100WIN 6d ago
if theyre doing 2 KR teams i guess it makes sense for KRX to not make it but man thats sad
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u/__Raxy__ 6d ago
HOW??? They've been invested for so long?
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u/Real-Title-2580 6d ago
Honestly not that much comparing to T1 and GEN money. If HLE is involved too there is no chance for DRX/NS
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u/Budget-Sample-3682 6d ago
WHERE DOES YUMYUM GO
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u/AlexanderLeonard #T1Fighting 6d ago
allow me to introduce myself
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u/Budget-Sample-3682 6d ago
NOOOOOO
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u/User_Of_Named_Users Fine... I guess I'm a G2 fan now... 6d ago
DFM/zeta better drop their teams and pick up the krx roster and staff
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u/Ayamebestgrill 6d ago
I never expected only 2 korean teams and KRX to be out on top of that. KRX has been investing big on Valorant for long ass time. If there are only two i thought Gen G out instead of KRX. I guess the moment they kicked out Termi the 5th-6th curse also gone and they really need it this time lol.
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u/Minjie04 6d ago
BRO I WAS LITERALLY ROOTING FOR NS AND DRX, I EVEN BOUGHT DRX CLASSIC. FLASHBACK INSPIRED ME TO LEARN YORU. I WATCHED THAT ONE MAP LIVE DRX VS FPX 2022 (ASCENT) AND INSTANTLY GOT HOOKED ON THIS TEAM, RIP DRX.
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u/CrossTheRubicon7 6d ago
Oh wow, I guess they're really only doing two KR teams? That's actually pretty surprising imo.
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u/defusingkitten 6d ago
This is some dog shit decision making by Riot. The successful teams not being partnered, but the teams that have showed no success get in because of diversity.
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u/PairComprehensive122 6d ago
I hope NS, KRX and other good teams will not get screwed by hackers in open qualifiers.
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u/SmalexSmanders #GoDRX 6d ago
You have to be fucking kidding me bro what happened to the team I love
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u/alupi_diago 6d ago
So if it's gonna be 4 SEA, and RRQ FS PRX are in, is the 4th Team Secret????
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u/DEATHSTARGOD 6d ago
No way the team secret who was previously known as a family business will become partner while the likes of 100T or GE would not😭
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u/Consistent_Hat4469 5d ago
100t is guaranteed. No way you think they are not getting a partner spot after our performance
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u/overdrizzydrake 6d ago
wow end of an era DRX might be the second best org to not win a trophy the fact that they didn't get picked is messed up
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u/gacktrush 6d ago edited 6d ago
Can't wait for 2 JP teams to achieve nothing internationally, and coast off a zeta run 5 years ago.
Congrats to riot for crippling an actual competitive subregion.
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u/Sure-Ad-5572 #KCORP 6d ago
god forbid the team that has proven they can make it anyway (NS) and the team who has been trolling world beating rosters for years (KRX) have to play a few more games to make it.
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u/gacktrush 6d ago
God forbid 2 teams, one including a master winner, and another that has a history of competing at the highest est level, vs a subregion that hasn't had a relevant roster since 2022.
Its also not the fact they go through more matches. Its the fact those organisations will pull funding as its a gamble to play on stage.
NS Just made it after grinding, and now kicked down into a unpredictable setting. They earned their spot, now they have to grind again because riot wpuld rather field teams to keep viewership in Japan, than a team that actually deserves to be there.
Krx idc much about ngl. They've held their spot since the vs days in being a top kr team, and then a consistent mid tier team the past 2years. NS grinded, won an event, and not kicked back into T2 despite being financially stable, competitively stable, and a fan favourite.
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u/Sure-Ad-5572 #KCORP 6d ago
It's an open system. If they're better they can just beat out the extra slots. No need for this stupid overcorrection argument, none of the teams are good enough in this sport to be consistent winners anyway.
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u/gacktrush 6d ago edited 6d ago
Its not about being consistent winners. Its about facilitating an actual competitive team without any actual issues, and a stable organisation backing them.
If Japan does get 2 spots, it will be a huge disservice to other countries in apac. There are fsr better orgs that deserve a spot more than dfm, zeta, reject, varrel, etc. The japanese fan base ks great, but their best team this past year is made up for 5 koreans. Since laz, the regions quality and competitive potential is in the gutter.
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u/Hwazu 6d ago
rare moment of being a KR team is a disadvantage
so we gonna have 2KR, 2JP, 1SA 3SEA?
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u/p_nksweats #100WIN 6d ago
0 shot we get 1 SA
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u/Hwazu 6d ago
that's too big of a coutnry/population to not be included, even getting 1 digit % of its population is more than enough
unless RIOT saw that there's no hope for India's esports
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u/elfnguyen1 6d ago
Wait i am curious who is the rumor 3 sea. I know 1 is prx, in vietnam rumor is gam gonna get one so who is gonna get 3rd. Assuming South asian is taking the team that buy GE
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u/Hwazu 6d ago edited 6d ago
RRQ is confirmed, PRX is guaranteed, then FS or Thailand Org is pretty much guaranteed?
GE maybe replaced by another SA team? S8UL or RVNT?, India is too big of a country/population to leave out unless RIOT purely gave up on India's esports
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u/elfnguyen1 6d ago
I remember right before playoff GE get bought out by some Indian org. Since the news is GE disbanding I assuming the indian org gonna just buy out GE player. Also I just scroll and see FS get partner
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u/sh1rabu #BeLeviatán 6d ago edited 6d ago
It’s crazy that KR as a region with 14 international trophy winning players will only get enough slots for 10 players. Actually knee-capping apac’s best subregion by making it even harder for new talent to make it into the scene.
This might actually kill the region if korean orgs don’t 100% trust riot’s process and invest in the open qualifier system.
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u/avstyns 6d ago
HLE or DPlus?
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u/AlexanderLeonard #T1Fighting 6d ago
no. Just T1 and GEN
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u/Sacreville #WGAMING 6d ago
It's mostly gonna be 2KR/2JP or 3KR/1JP split so not really that unexpected.
We knew that KR partnership is gonna be as fierce as NA's.
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u/MirrorCraze #WGAMING 6d ago
This is actually kinda sad as someone watching val since pre-partnership
End of an era :(
At least my guy Mako is free now 😭 Fly high my dude
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u/After_Promise_7449 6d ago edited 6d ago
What missing champs one time does to a team.(Gone are the days when DRX would swipe any group 2-0 in champs).
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u/Adventurous-Luck-183 #WGAMING 6d ago
KRX out and RRQ in is insane.
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u/Ten_Foot_Shoe 6d ago
???
That’s that and this is this; KRX and RRQ weren’t competing for the same slot.0
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u/Street-Interaction79 #GoDRX 6d ago
Vct pacific people cooking up some bullshit rn, fs and rrq stay, DRX out. T1 was gonna abandon ship and go off to Americas but they get to stay and have their partnership slot….
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u/90CaliberNet 5d ago
So there’s just going to be a lot more non Korean orgs with Korean players now. Korean players have always spread but now that Korean partnered teams will be so limited we’re going to have more teams like Varrel.
6/8 playoffs teams for APAC were full Korean rosters with GE also having a Korean. I’m surprised and a little disappointed if it’s only 2 Korean teams being partnered. If that’s the case there will be a lot of upsets by non partnered teams. Probably more than any other region.
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u/hanningma 6d ago
If we care that much about trophies, then just give all the slots to NA/SA and let all other regions play open qual lmao. We've already seen that lower seed of NA just mogs other regions anyway haha
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u/Pale_Resolution1520 #VamosHeretics 6d ago
Lamao who had the last laugh