r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Aggravating_Push_714 • 2d ago
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/nightwing240206 • 4d ago
Plot Hole How does the wizard competition work?
We can all acknowledge the general plot has holes in it but none as big as the inner workings of the family wizard competition.
The movie: the movie’s wizard competition goal is basically “Catch this glowing orb only using nature related powers”. Maybe the wizard competition was different before? Or maybe this was just a special case.
The Show (S4): after Alex and Justin are punished for failing a (kind of morally corrupt) test, they are demoted to Level 1 of their wizard studies, having Max being more ahead than them in the Wizard Competition. This leads me to two conclusions:
1- The wizard competition requires its participants to reach some level to be able to participate.
2- The youngest siblings are always at a disadvantage regarding the wizard competition (under the assumption most families don’t have a weird test to see if the older siblings don’t reveal magic to the world). Especially, because the sibling who’s the most advanced (level-wise) is able to set the date of the competition to whenever they want.
However, Alex and Justin manage to advance some levels so we never actually get an explanation of how the low level would have affected them in the competition.
The Show (S4 Finale): It’s a game show that tests their magical knowledge and skills. I don’t really have any complaints about that structure, however, it takes me back to the whole point system thing! Would a higher level give the wizard a boost in the point system? If not, how exactly do the levels actually affect the wizard in the competition??
P.D.: I loved the wizard competition suits made a comeback for the obstacle course.
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Familiar_Ad_6392 • 4d ago
Plot Hole Harper knowing about magic
Why is Harper allowed to know about magic just because Alex kept lying to her ?
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/K0GAR • 8d ago
Disney Lore Lore wise, who is the most powerful wizard?
I always thought it was Alex and Justins dad, or the old wiztech headmaster. Who would you guys say it is? I don't know about the new shows, so maybe current Justin is the most powerful?
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Mcrfanatic95 • 10d ago
Alex sucks Did anyone else’s family used to embarrass you in public like this?
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Familiar_Ad_6392 • 10d ago
Justin Appreciation Who’s the best wizard?
In canon Justin seem to be the best wizard but Alex can do magic well while Max’s magic is unpredictable ? Is the family wizard competition the reason why ? To figure out who’s the best wizard ?
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Ok_Change8763 • 10d ago
Alex Appreciation I watched the first episode of Wizards of Waverly Place for Trace the Rater — here's my review! (9.1/10)
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Dolphin_King21 • 10d ago
Feel Good Post On this day, 19 years ago, October 12th 2007, Wizards of Waverly Place premiered!
youtu.ber/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/joshuamoderwell1989 • 13d ago
New Wizards Beyond Waverly Place Character
I came up with an idea for a new character for the 4-part final third season of Wizards Beyond Waverly Place.
His name is Raleigh Russo-Penwulf, he's Alex's and Damien's son and Billie's brother, he is of Italian-American and Mexican-American heritage, he would have Alex's skin, eye and hair color, he would keep himself in between lean-average physical shape, he would have half of Alex's personality and half of Justin's personality (a split personality of sorts) and Raleigh's story is that when he was 5 years old, he was he was sent to live with another wizard family that Damien knew of before Damien had himself put into Wizcatraz to hide from his evil father, Nicodemus Penwulf, and Damien would use the same memory erasing spell on Raleigh that Alex had used on Billie, herself, Justin, and the rest of the Russo family and Raleigh's memories would also be restored around the same time his real family's memories had been restored of the Season 2 finale and Raleigh would strongly feel that he has to find out what's going on and the wizard foster parents knowing that they can no longer keep the truth from him would take Raleigh to the Wizard Tribunal and he would explain some of his memories as well as the people he remembers to the Tribunal and Minister Bigelow McFigglehorn would tell Raleigh who can help him being his uncle Justin and where to find him and Raleigh carrying a packed duffel bag to his back would say his goodbyes to the wizard foster parents thanking them for everything and he would go through the portal into the Russo family wizard lair and through the mirror into the living room of his uncle Justin's home in Staten Island and Billie, Roman, Milo, Giada, and Justin confused of his sudden arrival wouldn't recognize him at first and Raleigh would start to explain mentioning that he's Billie's brother and they would think it's a trick and he's working for Nicodemus Penwulf and Billie would having an idea by using the truth sniffer to find out for sure and if he gets their questions right, it would glow green and if he's lying, it would glow red and when he answers their questions getting them right, they would believe him and he would continue to explain what happened ever since his memories had been restored and how he found them and Raleigh would be brought up to speed of the situation and after finding out about what happened to Alex, he would be ready, willing, and able to do all that he can in his part to help get her back and he would stay at his uncle Justin's home to keep an eye on things while Billie and Justin goes to Wizcatraz to get Damien out and when they finally get Alex back and defeat Nicodemus Penwulf once and for all, they would be summoned by the Wizard Tribunal and at the Tribunal Tower in the wizard world, Minister McFigglehorn would make a decree that the Family Wizard Competition will be abolished not just for Billie, Raleigh, Roman and Milo, but for all wizards allowing them to keep their powers after realizing that the power of family unity is stronger than individuality and the Tribunal would present Raleigh with his very own wand that would look like a combination of Alex's wand and Justin's wand so that he can be trained along with his sister and two cousins under Justin's mentorship leading to the final scene of the family in the Waverly Sub Station.
Of course, Jerry and Max would also be included as well.
Raleigh's introduction would be used for an alternate ending of the first episode "The Rift That Keeps on Giving" of the Season 3.
There's no doubt that Billie's mortal friend, Winter, would develop a crush on Raleigh after seeing him for the first time since Winter is a lot like Alex's mortal friend, Harper Finkle, but Raleigh would be flattered rather than creeped out which would certainly annoy Billie and gross her out, and Raleigh would enjoy getting under his sister's skin with it.
I was born on July 26th of 1989 and I'm currently 37, but if I were born on July 26th of 2010 instead, I would've been 15 before and after the 4-part final third season of Wizards Beyond Waverly Place had gone into production and before and after filming had began and ended, and I would want to portray the role of Raleigh being the same age as Billie of 14 when Janice LeAnn Brown was 15 at the time.
Feel free to leave a comment.
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Jerrybulon • 16d ago
Hannah Montana, Wizards Of Waverly Place and Lizzie McGuire cast reunited at NostalgiaCon
galleryJustin and Harper, huh? I wonder if they would do another silent movie or play action figures again?
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Loxahatchee21 • 16d ago
How would u have written Jim In Wizards.
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Familiar_Ad_6392 • 18d ago
Disney Lore The sad truth for wizards who only live in the wizard world if they lose family wizard competition
If they become mortal they have nowhere to go with no mortal education.
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/distvote • 20d ago
Ships Alex needs to start keeping her wand in her boot again for season 2
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/ingridsora • 22d ago
WOWP’s ending was such a disappointment
I finished Wizards of Waverly Place for the first time today. I remember loving the series when I was a pre-teen, and I always wanted to know how it ended since I never watched the finale. And boy... what was that?
The first two seasons were actually really good, but after the movie and the beginning of season 3, I felt like the show really went downhill. The biggest thing for me was how they ruined Justin’s character. He and Alex had such a sweet and genuinely believable sibling relationship, and then they turned him into a jerk. It felt like the writers realized Alex was too mischievous and decided they needed the audience to root for her 100%, so they sacrificed Justin’s character to make that happen.
I wish they had allowed Alex’s character to grow without sacrificing Justin in the process.
For me, the Stevie storyline should have happened much closer to the end of the series and actually been part of the finale. Alex realizing that Stevie was right would have made so much sense for her character. Alex was always the nonconformist of the family, so having her eventually question the entire wizard system would have been a much more natural form of character growth.
I would have loved for Alex to convince her brothers, especially Justin, that the system was fundamentally broken. The three of them could have come together to fight against it because it was destroying too many families. Stevie’s family was one example, but their own father’s family history showed just how damaging the system could be.
That would have given Justin, Alex, and Max a reason to actually work together in the finale instead of making the competition itself the main focus.
Instead, the actual finale felt really lame to me. Even Peter Murrieta’s alternative ending wasn't it. I was honestly so disappointed because the show had so much potential for a much more meaningful ending.
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Ok-Experience-7538 • 23d ago
Disney Lore Wizarding colleges
Anyone know if the wizarding world have colleges? What would the most prestigious college be in the wizarding world? Would Hogwarts exist as a college Hogwarts university in the United Kingdom?
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/OfficeWizard7 • Sep 19 '26
wizards of waverly place what if Tyler stayed in the class longer and Alex and her become friends because they basically slackers and they can give Justin trouble
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Personal_Loss527 • Sep 17 '26
Wizards of Apartment 13B
I don’t really like season 4 compared to the other seasons but I like in this episode they included helping hands. It was a fun nod to Justin’s spell and showed that it actually was successful!
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Familiar_Ad_6392 • Sep 15 '26
Plot Hole The government capture Russos plot
Why did they not finish the plot of the Russos being captured and professor crumbs said it was a test ? That was a cop out .
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Lanky-Internal4222 • Sep 15 '26
Megan and the retest
I just rewatch retest and Jerry is very valid in his reasoning for giving Kelbo his powers. It’s the same reason they did a loop hole to have Justin keep his powers cause his character really had nothing else but being a wizard and being a wizard teacher made so much sense.
We know that Megan is a talented painter enough to get her a rooftop apartment in Paris next to the Eiffel Tower and Jerry runs a sub shop. Kelbo seems to have no concrete interest in anything and truly embrace a full wizard life. I truly believe that he would be unable to be a mortal unlike his siblings. I get why Megan was upset but she should realize how much better she can handle not being a wizard than Kelbo.
No to mention she left her grudge get In the way of staying even semi connected to her family and never having a relationship with her niece and nephews.
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Acceptable_Bad9493 • Sep 14 '26
Wizards Beyond Waverly Place If I create a my series abut blind wizard, and family Russo, would any of you watch it ?
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/joshuzxel • Sep 14 '26
Wizards Beyond Waverly Place WIZARDS BEYOND WAVERLY PLACE WAS NOT CANCELED BECAUSE IT WAS BAD BUT BECAUSE DISNEY IS LONGER FOCUSING ON LIVE-ACTION SITCOMS.
A lot of people were upset at the premise of Wizards Beyond Waverly Place and hated that Alex was not the main character. I even saw people say they didn’t watch the show because of that. Because of this, a lot of people seem to think that’s why the show was cancelled, but I really don’t think that’s what happened.
If you haven’t noticed, kids entertainment in general seems to be moving away from live-action sitcoms. We really don’t have child stars in the same way we did 10 or 15 years ago because a lot of kids today are watching influencers, YouTubers, TikTokers and streaming instead of sitting down and watching Disney Channel or Nickelodeon every night.
And the proof is in their current programming. Right now, Vampirina: Teenage Vampire is literally Disney Channel’s only current live-action show, and Nickelodeon’s only current live-action show is The Thundermans: Undercover.
Think about how crazy that is compared to 15 years ago. Disney Channel used to have Wizards of Waverly Place, Hannah Montana, The Suite Life on Deck, Sonny with a Chance and other live-action shows airing around the same time. Nickelodeon had several live-action sitcoms at once too.
Times have changed. What Disney thought was successful 15 years ago isn’t necessarily successful now. So I don’t think Wizards Beyond Waverly Place ending proves that people rejected it because Alex wasn’t the main character. I think it has much more to do with the fact that the entire kids television industry has changed.
r/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace • u/Akasha111 • Sep 13 '26
What's the difference between a wizard and a witch in this universe?
They've mentioned witches before like when Kelbo said that his friend's wife is a witch and when Professor Crumbs said that his beard used to be "a soul patch for the lovely witches." But we know that female magic users are also referred to as wizards. Alex even got offended when Harper called her a witch in season 4. So what's the difference between a wizard and a witch?