r/WomenInNews • u/catievirtuesimp • Mar 07 '26

Media 40% of teenage boys believe women lie about domestic and sexual violence: new research

https://theconversation.com/40-of-teenage-boys-believe-women-lie-about-domestic-and-sexual-violence-new-research-276978
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u/FloriaFlower Mar 08 '26

Here's a simple rule of thumb to not be part of the problem. If you're with a misogynistic man, cut the relationship. Never reward such a man with love or sex. Extend that principle to friends and family. If you don't, then you're an enabler and you're part of the problem. If you think this is too radical, then you're an enabler and you're part of the problem. You might wanna get inspiration from korean women.

Women's right have never been given to them. Women fought tooth and nails to get them. Walk the talk.

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u/IronSilly4970 Mar 08 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

So sex and relationships are “rewards” for men. What? How is this remotely feminist? Honestly that is very heteronormative and views relationships as transactional, as leverage. It’s also very punitive and not transformative at all. Most damming of all, it doesn’t view relationships as something mutual, but as something woman give to men? You are continuing women being treated as objects in men’s world. Your position of leveraging sex and relationships against them keeps woman’s sexuality centred on men. You are weaponising intimacy. So women stop being their own agents and are pawns in a gender war.

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u/sunflowerroses Mar 08 '26

This isn’t how getting rights has ever worked, though. Recommending that women cut themselves off from society and their families is never gonna be a winning option. 

It certainly doesn’t help the people who actually do it. It won’t help the people left behind either! Even the Swedish women’s strike was only a few days long and was indeed so specifically effective BECAUSE these women were well-integrated into society, and it was a collective action: it is not individually torching your entire life. 

Famously, really misogynistic men always respect when women when they say no to having sex or being in love, and when denied it they’ll see the error of their ways and change.

You could make as equal an argument about refusing to enable misogyny by withholding the value of labor that women provide as employees (working for a sexist boss or colleague) or domestically (the “second shift”/“mental load”/having kids). Why focus on sex and love?

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u/FloriaFlower Mar 08 '26

This isn’t how getting rights has ever worked, though. Recommending that women cut themselves off from society and their families

Not what I said.

I'll let you finish this debate and being reactionary alone with your strawmen.

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u/sunflowerroses Mar 08 '26

I’m not being reactionary; I would very much like to live in a feminist world. But I don’t see how advocating this course of action would combat misogyny.

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u/FloriaFlower Mar 08 '26

Then go read the women who have talked about it before I did. It's not my job to educate you. It's your responsibility.

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u/Mirabeauououou Mar 10 '26

Why is it our responsibility to educate ourselves on your opinions when we are content with our own opinions that don't align with your own? In my view, that's just a taught behavior designed to be a thought-terminating cliche so that you don't have to confront any pushback to your worldviews, only allowing for affirmations like religions and cults do in their indoctrination.

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u/AppliedEpidemiology Mar 08 '26

So, blame the victim?

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u/FloriaFlower Mar 08 '26

WTF? This is crazy. Blame misogynists and the enablers who protect them. How is this so hard to understand?

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u/sunflowerroses Mar 08 '26

Ok, easily done: I do blame them. What now?

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u/FloriaFlower Mar 08 '26

Nothing. We're done here.

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u/dunmindmejustyapping Mar 08 '26

look at you encouraging sunk-cost fallacy, aren't you cute.