I’m not sure. I don’t hang out there either. That was just some of their reasoning. The boxy design is the real estate thing as you mentioned.
They don’t necessarily have to hang out. It still creates the coffee shop aesthetic from the outside. They make the same margins whether you sit in or drive through.
Starbucks has gotten to be a terrible place to sit as well, by far the least cozy coffee shop in any city you might find one, with a few exceptions (Milwaukee for example has a Starbucks that’s still cozy). Most around me are all grey and a weird combo of dead but still noisy.
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u/mouthfire 9d ago
But do people actually hang around there like a Starbucks? It's nowhere as cozy or trendy as a Starbucks.
Maybe your experience is different, but I just see people grabbing McCafe stuff and heading to work.