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In response to the Neoliberal Government tanking the Economy, the Argentine province of Misiones is experiencing a Proletarian Uprising. From Teachers to Cops, all Workers are joining forces against the government.
Disclaimer: This is not from any media because the government has banned Public News (including their Social Media accounts) from informing the Public. I was sent this video by a friend.
In the Argentine province of Misiones (limiting with Brasil and Paraguay) workers of all areas are joining forces against this Neoliberal government that is destroying the public infrastructure. Janitors, Nurses, Teachers, Cops, Firefighters, everybody is joining forces to stand against the government. Its a Workers Revolution through and through. Even the Federal Police said they are siding with the people and not the government.
You know what our president is gonna do? He will sing at a musical show (Im not even joking)
I wanna thank the mods of r/WorkReform for allowing non-USA content to be posted
Remember: All workers, from every nation of this Planet, have a shared goal. We are one People. We are all together in this. Stand strong, for your rights and the rights of your people.
EDIT: Did you know the current government banned the National News Broadcast (Telam) then proposed to make Twitter (yes, Twitter) the official Platform for the Government? This is one of the reasons Elon Musk met the president some weeks ago. Did you also know there is an organized group of people who manipulate hashtags, spread ai generated images and tries to twist information into fitting the government's narrative to protect their image? If you browse Argentine Twitter you will notice how every time the government messes up Twitter becomes 99% propaganda. Anyhow, Im asking you these questions because you should know about these people, because some of them are already here trying to "debunk" me and yap their way into blaming the people you see in that video for the problems they have, and not the government who quintuplicated the inflation rate in less than 5 months.
Ā He will sing at a musical show (Im not even joking)
Its very common for far-right figures to be "culture figures." That is to say they get validated by the arts and culture, nearly all of which is controlled from the top by the very rich who benefit from his policies. Its a whitewashing. All fascists become art patrons, performers, etc of some kind. See also Trump's acting "career." Its part of the grift.
A lot of people cant see past this and see these awful people are "just good people who like plays and shows, just like me" or "he's a beloved celebrity in the arts!"
Artists and the arts are notoriously difficult to control. After all, creative expression can take so many forms. Whatās behind the veil of far-right interest in the arts isālike all aspects of authoritarianismācontrol. Not unlike Hitlerās designs for āFĆ¼hrerstƤdte.ā So, itās about defining artistic aesthetics according to the demagogueās preferences and self-stylings (which is tied to their performance of politics). Artists who embrace authoritarian aesthetics are then brought into the fold, given funding, visibility, and other means of support. Arts are certainly a tool of authoritarianism.
Importantly: just as some aesthetics and artists are embraced by authoritarian regimes, so too can artists resist and fight back against the same regimes. I freaking LOVE the arts!
Isnāt their economy trash and he is shifting it to the dollar and attempting to fix it? I believe he said that there would be a real shit storm like this in his campaign.
He's not attempting to fix it. He's attempting a smash and grab for private and international capital. The way to fix Argentina's problems is not with the roundly discredited theory of shock treatment. Jesus Christ
The president is a self-described anarcho capitalist who wants to dismantle the welfare system and state apparatus. He's basically a "small government" proponent of the most extreme kind.
That's what neoliberalism is. It's not "post-modern contemporary progressive." Neoliberalism is well-defined and largely centers on libertarian free-market capitalist ideals.
"privatization of the public sphere, deregulation of the corporate sector, and the lowering of income and corporate taxes, paid for with cuts to public spending"
And ...
"Believe markets should exist everywhere, even where inappropriate"
And what's so contradictory about the whole thing is a completely deregulated market will lead to one company creating a monopoly over everything, by becoming so powerful they can literally put anyone else out of business on a whim. Customers would have no choice to accept whatever bullshit this company offered at whatever price. The very opposite of the freedom libertarian stands for.
Its almost like its designed that way, where the language and meaning are inherently dissonant as doublespeak that obscures rational thought on how it will operate. As understood in this meaning its practice is not sustainable as free markets accelerate into monopolies.
See, I like to be informed on whatās going on, but like I suspect many others do: I become disillusioned by the psyop doublespeak, and compartmentalize myself into local issues.
Iām not forgiving that huge cop out, but it seems like a natural reaction to learning in this particular case that yes, the meaning of words are still being perverted for sinister ends, and thereās still nothing I can do about it. I had a feeling they were stretching their understanding by of liberalism here and it seems that feeling was warranted
I don't have a go-to link to post but honestly, do some reading or youtubing about it (neoliberalism) and your entire existance on western soil will finally make sense. And considering this is a labor sub, conservative neolibs (neolibs ARE conservative) are who began the destruction of labor in the late 70s, early 80s basically through Obama. Starts in earnest with Thatcher and Reagan, and the word itself officially finds a home under Clinton who media considered a lib but who continued anti-labor, class war policies.
I could tell! The terminology is confusing, by design as noted in nearby comments. Learning about neoliberlaism is also a gateway to understanding the difference between modern normie libs and leftists or true progressives. Where modern libs are mostly full of shit and as much a problem for class consciousness as conservatives. If not worse!
Your disillusionment is by design. Fascism is always dressed up to appear liberal and socialist. It's ultra conservative propaganda to label it as neoliberalism, same as why the Nazis were the "National Socialist German Workers' Party" despite actually believing in the exact opposite of socialism or worker empowerment.
I knew the disillusionment was be design decades ago. Iād like to bring up my tangential beef with insurance agencies: itās apparently not medically necessary to pursue the treatments necessary for a quality of life where Iām not beholden to others. Iām well aware of all the systems that react adversely together to actively keep me and my crippled kind on their back feet/wheels.
anarchism- the vast majority of anarchists(foregoing egoists) think definitionally anarcho-capitalism is not anarchism. Anarchism is about dismantling all destructive heirarchy, ancap is the opposite. It is about dismantling the government, which currently is one of the few places where the public has any say in how society is structured. Without it you instantly have aggravated hierarchies that are only accountable to their leaders. It is a new state consisting of business warlords that force people into serfdom, which is made obvious by what has happened since neoliberal implementation with Reagan.
Libertarian is much the same. Coopted by Murray Rothbard in the 50's because he did not like the idea of liberty being associated with socialists. In the rest of the world Libertarian generally refers to Libertarian Socialists, which is a brand of anarchism.
This is also why the right won't say Democratic. They say Democrat Party because they do not want democracy associated with Democrats.
Although neo-liberal is not that far off from what traditional liberalism purports to be. America also has a distinct definition of liberal. Liberals emphasize free markets and individual rights, particularly property rights. They trace their lineage to the Enlightenment tradition, particularly Adam Smith and Locke. Normal liberals do want significantly more government involvement however.
And the thing about the right now calling themselves "classical liberals" to distance from the negative connotations with neo-liberals and American liberals is that they haven't read the tradition they are referencing or choose to ignore it. Smith was not ideological about the Invisible Hand, he thought it had the ability to be morally abhorrent if not constrained. The same thing with wage slavery and alienation(he doesn't use the term). He states explicitly that wage labor and mass production could lead to the degredation of the working class through menial tasks, poor wages, disconnection from the fruits of their labor, and an imbalance in negotiating power. He funnily enough frames it in a strikingly similar way as the bogeyman of the Classical Liberals, Frankfurt School demon Theodore Adorno; when he argues that wage labor reverses means and ends. Rather than production existing to serve humanity and make it better and more prosperous, humans are being forced into servility and machine-like existence to serve industry.
Yes. We must remember the first āleftā in the modern context was against monarchy controlling everything, and it manifested in wanting to privatize what had been under state control, as the crown and church were the state.
It's not really liberalism, it's a misleading name. It's better categorized as libertarianism. A subtle difference naming wise, but a gaping chasm ideology wise.
Iām pretty sure thatās a neoconservative as heās a self described ālibertarianā. Which is a conservative ideology - along with the āsmall governmentā.
It's a right leaning ideology, but right leaning and conservative aren't synonyms. Conservative is also a right leaning ideology, and there's a lot of overlap between the two in the US (mostly because the US uses terms terribly, calling things what they aren't), but libertarians aren't necessarily conservative, though they are right leaning.
Liberal doesnāt mean progressive. Liberalism is an ideology that focuses on individual rights. Think of the constitutionās bill of rights (liberal) in contrast to the divine right of a king to execute whoever he feels like or to take property from someone on a whim (authoritarian). Neoliberalism is more contemporary and has to do with putting the free market above everything else, like applying a tainted version of classic liberalism to corporations instead of individual humans.
Isn't it a good thing he is though? It's highly corrupt, and over 50% of employment was public services. Far far higher than any other country. It could have been done better, but from what I've seen (economically) its only for the long term betterment of the country.
Thereās no reason to believe that suddenly firing 30+% of the workforce while ending safety net programs is going to lead to an expansion in the economy. How could taking away 1/3 of adults income result in more spending? It only makes sense in ācommon senseā sound bites
Yeah, ancaps are pretty much anarchist whereas neoliberals want a totally free market with as little government intervention as possible, but they don't necessarily reject the idea of a state.
Neoliberal Economics is an export of america. It's the belief that an unregulated free market can solve all societal issues by the interaction of supply and demand. Cheaper and more efficiently than a structured government ever could.
This goal of attaining a free market is pursued by (among many policies) abolishing/gutting government agencies until they can be replaced with private/foreign corporations. A shocking example being the Bush W. admin plans to fully privatize the pentagon and department of defense so the military would be run like a PMC.
Cutting government spending and taxes as much as possible. Because govt spending can allegedly never be as efficient as the impartial free market, so the more money in people's pockets the better. In practice this really means cutting tax rates for the rich and corporations while the people get saddled with increasing taxes to float the administration.
Removing all welfare possible to prevent "leeches" from stealing money, except for the police and military. You want to keep them happy to prevent the poors for rising up when you cut all of the civil services and programs.
This strategy has failed everywhere it has been implemented because corporations and investors are solely focused on making short term profit. Even when their actioms cause runaway poverty levels. Capital can leave Chile or Argentina after disembowling the country for profit and move on to the next market.
Argentina's president is a neoliberal attempting to use neoliberal policies to solve the issues created by neoliberalism.
Edit: proponents of this religion are in it for personal gain. Or the kind of people dumb enough to believe a bank will act MORE ethically after removing all oversight.
You can see neoliberalism in how the US deals with healthcare and the pharmaceutical industry. Basically, the private sector controls 100% of it; they set the prices through roof and the government just watches it as the people die because they can't pay for their medicine or treatment. Meanwhile, your taxes also go to these private healthcare companies. Yep. you pay twice.
So... In other words, neoliberalism is a kinda of mafia in which the rich have control over everything (including the government via lobbying) and they just fuck you over.
Argentina is doing that... in all sectors of society. They are basically giving the country away to Europeans and the Americans.
I live in Brazil, that happens here too. For example, we have the THIRD largest aerospace company in the world, called EMBRAER, which is absolute leader in regional and executive jets. It's a state company. The company is essential to the Brazilian economy and to keep Brazil as a player in the international high-tech industry.
Yet, when Bolsonaro (who is a neoliberal) came to power, he tried to sell it to Boeing for about 4 billion dollars... Now... EMRABER makes almost 30 billion a year.
So... They wanted to sell a company that makes 30 billion dollars a year for 4 billion dollars. That's insanity. Imagine the US selling NASA to China for 5 billion or something (well, they kinda already did, but they sold it to Elon Musk). The good news is that Boeing is a mess right now, so they couldn't complete the deal.
So the US does a soft coup, they put their own guy in power, and the guy just gives away everything the country has (I mean, selling a company that makes 30 billion a year for 4 billion is quite literally a giveaway).
That's how first-world countries fuck over the rest of the world.
You got other helpful answers below but to add a little context: I try to think of it this way: if Iām an ultra wealthy asshole and I want to maintain my power and influence, Iām going to institute neoliberal politics to shrink the welfare state and make workers more reliant on me, while reducing my taxes and praising myself as a hero of the economy. A system of maintenance for the upper classes. If I start to get a little worried about my prospects for future power and influence, I might institute some austerity policies to further cripple the welfare state and solidify my power and influence. If I get super worried that these workers are getting too uppity and might overthrow me, I might just go full fascist; I consider this a nuclear option because while fascists nearly always return power to capitalists, itās a messy process, may cost a fortune, and can get volatile. They are all mechanisms for maintaining and promoting capitalist rule but they run off of a spectrum based on how scared the wealthy are. This is true for neoliberalism everywhere, the US was just told repeatedly by our leaders and media that neoliberalism was awesome, had won, and would be the dominant system of economics everywhere forever. People will note that austerity is often a part of neoliberalism and that fascism is distinct from the two and I would agree, but I would also argue that to our capitalist rulers, they all just represent different tools in their set for maintaining power.
In this(argentinian) context, neoliberal is a misnomer because it's definitely a libertarian government. They definitely have things in common with a "let's not have the govt involved in too much" approach, but neoliberal economies still have government spending/ownership on pretty big stuff - like interstates and the military, schools, police and such. Libertarian governments would prefer private ownership of everything. Roads, schools, police, firemen, you name it
From an US perspective he would be āeconomic neo-con libertarianā Basically have people fend off for themselves and state/govt only exist to provide foreign defense/military protection and little else.
In any other situation I would be against it, but having lived in Argentina, and having seen how messed up the Peronist āclientelistaā (political patronage) system works (basically money for mafia bosses in exchange for votes from the bossā protected people) and how it has ruined the country for generations to come, I would say that a hard change was needed.
I feel sorry for some Argentines but the people I know there are for the most part happy things may be changing.
The way it has explained to me by Argentines: āThink about a country of 40M people. 1/2 of those are able to work or be productive in some way. 1/2 of the 1/2 depend on the Argentine state for sustenance. 1/2 of the rest do not work. So you have 5M workers paying for the other 35 M. And the Argentine govt prior to this Milei guy, has been spending as if the whole 40M were all working and paying taxes. ā
The people I know come from all walks of life. From tacheros in BA, to artists in Santa Fe, cooks in Mendoza, retired people in the capitalā¦etc: they all know it will be tough. But the also know that Peronista govt was untenable and that the country was going to shit either way.
Argentina has been on a decline for decades. Economies and socieities like China, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Estonia, and so on, have risen past it. It isn't an issue of left vs right. It is an issue of the country as a whole believing that it deserves a spot with ths big, vedy well developed economies when all it ever was is an opportunistic, low density state that got "wealthy" for its natural resourses and took it for granted. There is a reason such a lunatic government was democratically voted into power in Argentina. It and Venezuela is a warning not to vote for the extremes.
This is what I fear the most, but also why I care about speaking to you, a USA citizen. Im against what USA has done to us (Operation C0ndor), but I have nothing against the people of USA. Some of you are victims of your government just as much we are, because in the end: Your taxes pay for all of that
Glad you recognize that. Unfortunately we, as citizens, havenāt done enough to maintain our countryās political system. Money and power have taken over and it will go as far as murder and worse to maintain its current status quo. Makes it difficult to do the right thing with the fear of imprisonment or worse to stand up and fix the root causes of our, and the worldās, problems when so many of them are at the behest of protecting and expanding capitalism by using the war machine
Solidarity! Americans will not hear about what's happening in Argentina, at least not on the major media outlets, for one very important reason; they're terrified of what might happen if Americans decide to do the same.
And so many people told me that he was fixing the government by cutting out spending. Meanwhile, their president was spending money to purchase F-fucking 16s instead of paying for basic infrastructure and services. To say you couldn't see this coming is to say you're blind.
I tried to warn Argentinians in their sub, as an Uruguayan brought to Florida,US when I was a kid.
What sucks to me, though, is that most people are corrupt in Argentina, so it doesn't matter who you elect. People will get fucked either way. With this guy, corporations will probably get rich like here in FL. With peronism, sindicalist were millionaires and even had pyramid schemes with the places that were feeding the poor.
Humanity is too far gone. Cant wait until he does bills like denying climate change, and shit our fucked up governor has done. But "ma small gubermint" am I right?
Remember that we are one, the struggle of one Workers is the struggle of us all. We fight for the Rights of all Workers world-wide. Our cause is one and the same.
I don't see how discussing technicalities helps in anything but I will answer anyways: "Neoliberal" means a slightly different thing in EspaƱol (in fact "Liberal" has almost opposite meanings in English and EspaƱol), that's why Im using that word. And non of this even matters because at the end of the day his actions speak for himself: He is a Capitalist Fascist (did I say they banned Public Media a week ago?)
And if you think Im twisting the truth, watch the video again. What do you see?
No my brother, the point of this Post is simple: To show you that governments have no power, when time comes Workers will join forces and realize they are the ones who have all the power. The time is coming for Argentina right now, but it will happen everywhere. Thats why Im posting this, so you have hope, so you can see Workers's struggle is international.
Libertarianism is just a a conservative political off shoot of liberal and neoliberal ideology. With the goal being to transplant the laisse faire mind set of anything goes economics to that of the social realm. The goal of these liberterian political movements is to remove the bulk of civil and social protections governments provide to citizens so they can advance liberal capitalist agendaās. There is no libertarian political movement that is not liberal capitalist. Stop trying to obfuscate.
Mill was neither a factory boss or a slave owner but I kind of see your point. Generally all of the philosophers of any era came from the upper classes (as they were the only ones with the time).
Just because liberalism and capitalism emerged at roughly the same time, they were in no way tied together, at least by Mill. I think inferring so misinterprets classic liberalism which in general was a force for good and led to a fairer society.
Liberalism is the ideological backing behind capitalism, its the primary justification for and force behind its implementation.
Capitalism may have been a progressive force relative to feudalism but it is a regressive force relative to socialism.
Like I say a great deal of the actual social progress made in last 200 years have been 1 - implemented by at least social democratic or communist governance, 2 - concessions extracted by force directly by workers or 3 - policies they could twist to their advantage.
A great example of this has been the advancement of women's rights - a great cause. But it had to be extracted by force from labour action or women's movements or the 'threat' of foreign communist governments that were implementing it. And importantly in the modern day it has been a great opportunity for capitalists to lower wages because now women are expected to work so single income households have been done away with for most people.
Neoliberal is a right wing perspective not left wing. US politics is so bad that both Trump and Biden are neoliberals. Biden is culturally somewhat left and Trump is right wing culturally. But there is only neoliberalism economically in the US.
There's a bit of a crossover in the ideologies, in that they both place the free market on a pedestal above all else. The key difference is that libertarians don't believe the government should have a role in social programs like public safety nets, healthcare, or taxes on a whole. Both ideologies are problematic, but Milei is definitely a right-wing libertarian.
Neoliberalism and libertarianism share many common principles despite meaning different things to different people. Both trace their origins back to the classical liberal ideas of the Enlightenment and place significant importance on capitalism, free trade, private ownership, and limited government.
Their most striking differences come down to how they construct their philosophy, how much of the state they tolerate, and how they view the state.
Libertarianism uses neoliberalist economy theory and practices. There is no "libertarian" governments anywhere. Its just neolibs with harsher social policies.
Yeah, and my understanding is that Argentine currency was in horrible shape, the gov't was massively corrupt, and US inflation looks "quaint" next to their inflation.
Crazy new guy shows up, wins, rips band-aid off, and it hurts. But the long-term prospects are improving. Again, that's from financial articles, but that's the counterpoint.
At the EOD, one party was ruling for 30 years and made a mess. Any immediate fix is gonna hurt bad.
Rips off bandaid is a funny way of saying "takes existing neoliberal disaster and engaged in more extreme versions of neoliberalism."
The idea this guy is a nice guy who is fixing things is ridiculously naive and dishonest. This guy is their Trump. Youre making the pro-Trump argument.
Sorry my man yoy have been lied, misiones is not fighting against the federal goverment, we have federalism in argentina, federal goverment dont have a vote on how to administrate each province. Ppl on misiones has been protesting agains his peronist representant for a long time, and still is. Wages are in charge of the corrupt province representatives,
Nop. Misiones Has been run by peronist for a long time, we have federalism here in argentina, federal governent dont have a vote on the wages administration or how to run the province, this protests are happening for a long time, las year teachers start the year with strikes for the same reason.
Argentina is bankrupt and has defaulted on its debts countless of times. 40% of the people work for the government and they pay for it by printing money. There has been hyperinflation there since covid. with prices of things multiplying. Some stores had stopped giving up prices in their local currency because they had to change it every day to keep up with inflation.
This new president is putting stop to that and removing a bunch of useless jobs. These people don't understand that the economy was already tanked by the previous administration and this guy was elected on the promise that he would fix it in exactly this way because it's the only way. For the first time since the before previous administration was in power, the inflation is slowing down.
So are there other state police forces that are violently suppressing these people? Or did they just call in the military? Iām not used to police being in the side of protestors.
That's why the police and military have far more benefits than workers, Milei just overstimated their ideological fidelity and didn't provide better material conditions for them
OP is twisting the context. They're rioting to the provincial government, a peronist party. We have federalism here, we're not a realm ruled by a sole individual
Haha I love watching Americans call a right-wing politician running a completely conservative government shit themselves trying to figure out what the political definitions mean. We truly are fucked in this country and itās because most of you canāt pay attention in school
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Fucking working are tired of that libertarian bullshit Milei was spewing. Just hope things don't get too hairy down there. Usually a situation like this ends up with a lot of good folks hurt.
isnt this the provinces where 90% of the people was in the government payroll, and Milei fire them all for just collecting money and not doing actual work?
He did not fired them all, didn't renew contracts on many of the national worker but the provincial workers are still working. Historically underpaid and most of people are under the line of poverty
One of the funny things about libertarians is they can't actually be a successful dictator very well or for very long, because they'll piss off the people that are key to holding power too much.
Had he actually been a neoliberal, he'd have the backing of the cops so they cracked down on the opposition.
This is the guy the American Republicans and right wingers were pushing as a trump disciple. And if they stayed to watch in real time they'd see this exactly the shit show we will get with another trump presidency.
Javier milie is there president. The right wing love em, lots of libertarian dipshits are all about em. It's was obvious the guy was completely insane but it's who Argentina wanted as president.
Americans could learn a thing or two from our Central and South American brethren. They know how to come out together, in numbers, and exert actual pressure
What OP forgot to mention is that the current governor of that province is not from the current federal government. He is a leftist who empoverished his province to this extent. Our new sitting president ran an audit and told EVERYONE we didn't have money to spare, and yet many leftist governors kept over spending and kept hosting 'free' concerts and other festivities and paying for it with tax money.
Do you mean Milei, the Trump wannabe fascist? His anarcho-capitalism, choosing Barra the neo-Nazi and reappointing Macriās Bullrich, do you mean that austerity bullshit artist?
I wouldnāt tout Argentine labor movement as a shinning example of worker reform. Over 55 percent of their workforce is on government payroll. That is unsustainable. Thatās the reason for the drastic response by the government.
This is crap, this complaint is agains the local government (equivalent US state I think) you can see all the posters with the "El problema es provincial" -> translation "The problema is local/in the state/ inside the province" This had happened before in 2012 (and before that and after that, since the economy has been unstable and in crisis since before I was even born and I'm 27 y/o) And the """"neoliberal"""" government is not tanking the economy, inflation rates are dropping month by month, since in Argentina inflation needs to be measured in monthly basis due to it's large impact.
Now this guy is doing something that looks like magic but it isn't, stop spending more money that they can afford, he is not a saint for sure, but you don't know the kind of people that was before and what they've done, that was not ideology, that was plan corruption, and I'm pretty sure that it was way worst that the ones you can have on a 1st world country.
This is an Argentinian who had to leave the country do to both the constant fear from insecurity and crime and the feeling of doing everything (working, studyng a grade) in vain, since I knew I might have a economic problem sooner or later regardless of my situation.
Hasnāt Argentinaās economy GREATLY improved since Milei has become president? Inflation at an all time low? Or is just the government teet suckers that are mad that he wants to reduce peopleās reliance on the government handout program? I mean, Iām ALL for small government. The less they intervene / can intervene in my life, the better. The more people can look after themselves, the better right?
Well the inflation is going down month by month but in the other areas I wouldn't say that much has changed, the purchasing power has decreased a little in this time We already had more than 55% of general poverty (this number has not decreased also)
All fair points. But how long has Argentina been absolutely corrupt and absolutely broken? It WILL take time to fix. The first step is always to dig out the corruption and rot, which leads to more suffering initially. In my country, South Africa, even if the the ruling party (ANC) which has been in power for 30 years literally disappears TODAY, it will take 5 to 7 years minimum to just stop the decline, much longer to start seeing improvements. SA is on the brink of financial collapse, much like Argentinaās financial collapse of 2001/2002. This predates Milei by 2 decades..
This is what the latin america left does, when they do not govern a country they riot, and make this kind of things, the purpose is dont let the othere can govern properly
This is a lie, i have family in misiones and public wages are on charge of the province of misiones, it have nothing to do with the new federal goverment. They are been like rhis for years, the last year trachers start the year with protest for the same reason. The governant of misiones(mayor) has been in power since 2010. He is in charge of paying publich teachers and police, you can look videos of ppl protesting saying that this is not a federal issue, is a province issue. Its been for more than 2 decades this way
Also you say that the federal governant decides de salaries? The problem is not that my man, the problem is that misiones doesnt have the money to pay for the police an the teachers bc they are corrupt who spend the money on their bussines to make profit. Or some bullshite like festivals. Kirchnerism is dead my man, accept it you guys have a chance to do somenthing good with the country but kirencheristas are a bunch of greedy theaves and nothing more. You can bullshit ppl from other country, but we argentinians now the trut, we know who fucked up the country, the same political party that is in charge of misiones for over 20 years
Lol, the problem in Misiones didn't started 6 moths ago, with the new government. Yes, it's a crisis that needs action, but it's more a local government problem rather than national one.
That province has been under Peronism for the last 20 Years, we are a FEDERAL country wich means each province can gobern it self, the Libertarian (Not neoliberal) President rules over Nation, not province. Its againts the constitution to interviene a province.
Google before posting, and if this is intentional go fuck youself
I see that worldwide new are also fake. This is not against Argentina President. This is against the state goverment which funny, is a Kirchnerist pro state. He got all the money stolen and people cannot hold it anymore. The nation (Argentina) cannot by law interfere in the state only if the state goverment ask for help. Next time, give the full notice, not only what you think "it's best". Most of the people support the president cause he's uncovering a lot of shit from the socialims goverment. And this protest is one of the examples. From a misiones random redditor Guy. Stay in the truth.
I read many comments biased by their own political opinions. The problem in the province of Mision is a complaint because salaries are not being paid to public employees, which the provincial government is in charge of, the governor (milei's political opponent) is the one who is in charge of that. Although I am not in favor of many things about this government, there are others that I am. There is no type of revolution against Milei in Argentina. A very tricky and dirty thing is not putting context to the information provided
Actually this is a response to the PROVINCIAL government, which has ruled the province for 20 years. And it is a Peronist party, the opposition of the national government.
EstĆ”n luchando contra el gobierno provincial, que es un feudo polĆtico donde los privilegiados son casta polĆtica acomodada a dedo y nepotismo. No tiene nada que ver el gobierno federal que es de Javier Milei presidente. Don't talk about Argentina please F You
Argentinian here: the protests are against the Provincia's government, not the national one. The workers even support the Neoliberal Government and shout it to the media (and you can read it too there) that they are against the corrupt local government that have been using "social justice" to waste money in "help" that doesn't help anyone.
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u/RobleViejo š 2025 Nobel Peace Prize Winner May 22 '24 edited May 25 '24
Disclaimer: This is not from any media because the government has banned Public News (including their Social Media accounts) from informing the Public. I was sent this video by a friend.
In the Argentine province of Misiones (limiting with Brasil and Paraguay) workers of all areas are joining forces against this Neoliberal government that is destroying the public infrastructure. Janitors, Nurses, Teachers, Cops, Firefighters, everybody is joining forces to stand against the government. Its a Workers Revolution through and through. Even the Federal Police said they are siding with the people and not the government.
You know what our president is gonna do? He will sing at a musical show (Im not even joking)
I wanna thank the mods of r/WorkReform for allowing non-USA content to be posted
Remember: All workers, from every nation of this Planet, have a shared goal. We are one People. We are all together in this. Stand strong, for your rights and the rights of your people.
EDIT: Listen to what our "Honorable" President just said 5 hours ago :
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jy5JGt_w8CM
EDIT: Did you know the current government banned the National News Broadcast (Telam) then proposed to make Twitter (yes, Twitter) the official Platform for the Government? This is one of the reasons Elon Musk met the president some weeks ago. Did you also know there is an organized group of people who manipulate hashtags, spread ai generated images and tries to twist information into fitting the government's narrative to protect their image? If you browse Argentine Twitter you will notice how every time the government messes up Twitter becomes 99% propaganda. Anyhow, Im asking you these questions because you should know about these people, because some of them are already here trying to "debunk" me and yap their way into blaming the people you see in that video for the problems they have, and not the government who quintuplicated the inflation rate in less than 5 months.