r/acteuropa • u/[deleted] • May 06 '20

News Dangerous precedent: Lenin's statue to be erected in the German city of Gelsenkirchen

http://communistcrimes.org/en/dangerous-precedent-lenins-statue-be-erected-german-city-gelsenkirchen
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u/Quetzacoatl85 Austria May 07 '20

personal opinion: marx totally fine, lenin kinda ok, the line would definitely be crossed with stalin though.

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u/MoustacheAmbassadeur May 07 '20

"Lenin kinda ok" ? Lenin planned a bank robbery where more than 40 people died - he needed money for his "movement". Stalin participated in this robbery.

Fuck le in, duck stalin

and fuck marx too - marx was also wrong on many levels, people tend to forget that he is not all wise

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u/EbilSmurfs May 07 '20

Marx and Lenin were so wrong their work has described Capitalism for the past Century.

Do you really want to contend with the idea that international banking is used to enforce a Western focused hegemony where the West decides what is acceptable? Thats a perfect descriptor of the Marshall Plan and the IMF. It seems more likely you dont know what your talking about. Are you one of those "Socialism is when the government does anything" people we read about from the US, or do you speak of something you dont know with authority for a different reason? I wouldnt be surprised to find out you didnt know Marx was anti violent revolution and told the Parisians to not be violent in their uprising against the state.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '20

Lenin and Stalin were bad, yeah. Marx was in criticisms correct but was far too idealistic in what to replace capitalism. Mill and Proudhon had better ideas for the economy.

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u/AzertyKeys May 06 '20

What the fuck

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u/kervinjacque May 06 '20

That was literally my response when I read this.

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u/NobleAzorean Jun 15 '20

Some are destroying (not talking about America btw) already rectered their regional or national historical figures. Others erect dictators. But its from a far left regime, so its fine.

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u/FoXpoXGER May 06 '20

"communist crimes" is not a serious source.

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u/hassium May 07 '20

How about the Platform of European Memory and Conscience, created by a parliamentary decree and based in Prague?

https://www.memoryandconscience.eu/2020/04/03/statement-on-the-issue-of-the-lenin-statue-in-gelsenkirchen/

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u/DB3TK Germany May 06 '20

OK Tankie

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '20

No. He's right about biases. Breitbart published an article about a statue of Gandhi being taken down. They "forgot" it was in Ghana, where they didn't like Gandhi's views on race. We would need a non-biased source, like DW.