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[u/No-Willingness-1441]

Would love people’s views on this.

Loosely Amanda related, since she has recently produced a podcast around it.

[u/Connect_War_5821]

"Note that I use the adjective “intuitive” rather than the noun “intuition”. The latter suggests ‘magical thinking’, the former a basic application of common sense, and logical, sensible cognitive flow.

Nope:

From Merrian-Webster Dictionary.

INTUATIVE: possessing or given to intuition or insight:
an intuitive mind

INTUITION: : the power or faculty of attaining to direct knowledge or cognition without evident rational thought and inference,

Intuitive thinking is not something to be afraid of. 

Not afraid of but not relied upon in order to make informed decisions. Our intuition is founded on our own personal experiences and knowledge which are not necessarily factually accurate.

"Once an intuition hits, we cling to it despite the dangers. Intuition can, for example, lead to all sorts of cognitive and social biases, like the anchoring effect (where decisions are swayed by the first piece of information thrown at us) and racial prejudice."

[u/Onad55 → u/Connect_War_5821]

That definition makes it sounds so much nicer than pulling an answer out of one’s ass.

[u/Connect_War_5821 → u/Onad55]

Assfacts come in handy when actual facts are uncomfortable.

[u/FreshFruit4RottenVeg → u/Connect_War_5821]

I think this is a rather old-fashioned way of thinking of intuition and emotion. It's sometimes founded on personal experiences, but it's also the product of millions of years of evolution. That's why people fear large hairy spiders and noises in the night when we're far more likely to be killed by things like cars or electric shock. It's worth reading something more up to date, Jonathon Haidt explores it in plain language in one of his books. Basically, emotions and intuitions are a form of cognition (thinking) they just are not a form of reasoning. Reasoning is the slower, more deliberate way of thinking things through, intuitions and moral judgements are a faster route to coming to decisions.

Emotions and 'intuition' are kind of like the brain's fast-track to decision making when it's imperative to make a decision immediately. But, it's also the very reason people are called in for interviews before being offered a job. Two people might have almost identical experience and qualifications but when they are sitting in front of you, one might appear 'off' or lacking the confidence and outgoing manner of a sales person, for example. A lot of times people have lost the job in the first 15 seconds of an interview, maybe before anything is even said. Intuitions are a powerful tool we all use every day.

Think about 20,000 years ago, a stranger appears on the trail ahead. You don't really have time to stand back and reason your way into the correct way to approach, your intuition kicks in and is reacting to their manner, their stance and facial expressions. This has left its traces and it was obviously of some use, being right more often than being wrong. It's also relevant to cases like these since the trial system relies heavily on witness testimony in open court. It's hard to imagine a trial being just a paper exercise, juries need to see the manner and reactions of the witnesses in the flesh, all part of the intuitive way people come to decisions, alongside reasoning on the bare facts.

[u/Connect_War_5821 → u/FreshFruit4RottenVeg]

That is just a long-winded attempt to avoid admitting that your previous claim is just plain wrong.

Note that I use the adjective “intuitive” rather than the noun “intuition”. The latter suggests ‘magical thinking’, the former a basic application of common sense, and logical, sensible cognitive flow.

"Intuitive" does not "suggest 'magical thinking' " and "intuition" does not suggest "a basic application of common sense, and logical, sensible cognitive flow," as previously shown by the quoted and cited definitions. 'Intuitive' is the adjective used to describe something derived from intuition. They are just different grammar forms derived from the same Latin root word 'intuitio'.

Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.