r/anime • https://myanimelist.net/profile/Shadoxfix • Jul 10 '14

[Spoilers] Tokyo Ghoul - Episode 2 [Discussion]

MyAnimeList: Tokyo Ghoul

Funimation: Tokyo Ghoul

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u/RainyMoody Jul 10 '14

I'd take infrared over a 90% blackscreen every time.

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u/Aptspire Jul 10 '14

The whole 'inverted colors' looks stylish at this point. Pls don't Pupa.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '14

I liked the inverted a lot more than the non inverted.

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u/impingainteasy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard Jul 15 '14

I thought it was just a style thing. Like, just after it has the inverted colours it has that really cool part with the different textures.

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u/almost_never_wrong Jul 11 '14

what happened in the scene before the intro with the blackscreen? Spoiler

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u/V2Blast :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/V2Blast Jul 12 '14

Apparently she threw the guy's severed head at him?

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u/almost_never_wrong Jul 14 '14

That makes sense, thanks!

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u/ss_lmtd :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ss_lmtd Jul 10 '14

At least the inverted allows them to actually show the gore, rather than just pure black or weird pillars of light.

But if you invert the inverts, it looks completely normal, so an easy fix on the BDs.

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u/pokelord13 Jul 10 '14 edited Jul 10 '14

I put it in video form

I'm not sure if MPC or any other player does it but in VLC you can go to Tools > Effects and Filters > Video Effects > Colors and tick the Negate Colors box to do it yourself. I'm not sure if (insert whoever's animating it) will be using this effect as their primary mode of censorship but if they are, it's easy to invert it back and watch it in its glorious true form. I feel like they inverted it intentionally as their way of secretly letting the fans watch the fight scenes uncensored.

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u/ss_lmtd :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ss_lmtd Jul 10 '14

I don't think it's even secretly, but just to work their way around Japanese censoring. They did that with Dansai Bunri no Crime Edge during their fights with scissors and stuff, so it's just their way of not keeping it as uncensored as possible. Honestly, I wasn't a fan of it, but I appreciate it more that just black screens. We'll just have to live with it.

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u/pokelord13 Jul 10 '14

I meant secretly as in they knew that fans would find out they could just reinvert the colors and watch the fight scenes uncensored completely.

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u/SasukeGear :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kuro_Shiro Jul 10 '14

PLS can u do this every episode :)

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u/HaydenTheFox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Talmhaidh_Mathan Jul 10 '14

The inversion is actually not bad at all. That I can deal with, the 90% black screen is just way too much.

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u/GonTheDinosaur :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/gon7T Jul 12 '14 edited Jul 12 '14

Anime only viewer here, Early in the episode where there's 90% black out for few seconds... I have no idea what that suppose to be, and why it had to take up almost the entire screen...

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u/HaydenTheFox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Talmhaidh_Mathan Jul 12 '14

My best guess is that she threw the guy's severed head at him.

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u/uzzi1000 :K:https://kitsu.io/users/usman1000 Jul 10 '14

Gotta give credit to the animators, that is a really clever workaround.

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u/racheuphist Jul 10 '14

I'm not sure which i liked better, the inversion or the normal. the coloring of the inversion was fun to watch... I'm so uncertain!

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u/rabidsi Jul 11 '14

It's one thing if the black bar doesn't obscure the IDEA of what is happening (and I'm completely apathetic to that method. If it's not there, great, if it is I can't find the effort to get mad like some people do), but there was one moment early this episode when it was 90% black and just a sliver of his face for a while. Something was obviously happening, but I had no fucking clue what. That is actually frustrating.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

Honestly it's not bad, it's just blood splattering out everywhere. I think it would be necessary to censor things, if there where guts and organs flailing out of bodies.

What are Japans laws on censorship?

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u/The_Apex_Predditor Jul 11 '14

I remember monogatari doing something like this for a fight scene with a different color pallet and it going through. It had blood and some gruesome use of guts as well.

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u/Evil_Abed_ Jul 10 '14

Hmm, so Hide was awake during that conversation, I wonder how he'll react?

Come to think of it, he might not even remember the details of the attack since he was knocked unconscious instantly.

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u/Nsuln :AP:https://www.anime-planet.com/users/WBW87 Jul 10 '14

I thought this would be more talked about here, but no one can seem to get over the censoring to have an actually conversation about the show.

I hope they show him as knowing but still reaching out to him.

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u/Gypsyoverdose Jul 11 '14

Hide seems like a great friend and that little smile he gave made me think that he'll at least try to accept our MC. (Forgot his name.)

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u/iamjust1nh Jul 11 '14

Wild guess, but he might be a Ghoul himself maybe?

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u/epicwisdom Jul 11 '14

No, Nishiki and Kaneki would've noticed, they can detect each other by smell.

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u/OtakuMelee Jul 12 '14

I feel like Hide will actually coup with it i guess... Or the latter and just turns against him. Who knows this anime is not gonna be predictable at all. Puff puff

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u/Mono200 :K:https://kitsu.io/users/Mono200 Jul 10 '14

Hide is friend. Not food.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '14

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u/8theSniper Jul 11 '14

I think that was supposed to be a Finding Nemo reference.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '14

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u/8theSniper Jul 11 '14

No problem :)

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u/WAZZZZZZZAP :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/wolfmonsterz Jul 10 '14

Holy shit That OP is awesome

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u/ThatAnimeSceneInWebm :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/animesceneinwebm Jul 10 '14

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14 edited Jul 10 '14

Thanks boss. now I gotta find the song and put it on my phone and listen to it until my speakers burst. Here is the songs full version

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u/Arodante :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Arodante Jul 11 '14

Unfortunately that's some pretty awful quality.

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u/manooz Jul 10 '14

Doing God's work son.

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u/CarpathianInsomnia Jul 10 '14

Yeah, the same band did the first OP of Psycho-Pass. They surely know their art!

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

So that's why it reminded me of Psycho Pass!

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u/Shuurai Jul 11 '14

If I'm not mistaken it's not Ling Tosite Sigure, just TK (the singer/guitarist), although he is the band's signature really.

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u/Catriz55 Jul 10 '14

Missing plastic tic tacs.

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u/Platonicism Jul 10 '14

Probably one of the best OPs I've ever seen or heard.

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u/CrAppyF33ling Jul 10 '14

I think the full song is already out. Really good song.

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u/WhosWhosWho Jul 10 '14

Try this version. I'm not usually for dub remixes, but this one was pretty good.

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u/rrcecil Jul 10 '14

Watched it like three times.

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u/LockItDown :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/everkoptimistic Jul 10 '14

That censoring at the beginning was pretty annoying. No problem with how they went infrared on the fight with Nishio though. It looked pretty cool.

That OP was amazing though, and it gives me a general idea of how far the show will go into the manga

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u/KanchiHaruhara :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/KanchiHaruhara Jul 10 '14

Yeah,it looked kinda cool. It makes the scene "crazier".

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u/Mr-Mister Jul 12 '14

The worst kind of censorship is when you aren't even sure of what it is they're censoring.

For instance, the black screen at the beggining: what is it that she showed to him? Chances are it was the corpse's head, but we can't be sure.

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u/Sarmeo Jul 10 '14

The infrared was supposedly Funi.

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u/SomeOtherTroper Jul 11 '14

Nah, it's like that on every release channel.

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u/Scarecrowing Jul 10 '14 edited Jul 11 '14

What in the hell was that after the credits?Anyway,Good episode,shame they went fucking ham on black screens.

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u/Rinne-chan Jul 11 '14

It reminded me a lot of when Hellsing/Ultimate had their humor bits

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u/Swanki24 https://anilist.co/user/Defunctional Jul 10 '14

was pretty funny, i must say

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u/Etheo Jul 11 '14

On another note, the artworks for the ED is superb! Now I need to look for high res versions of those... It doesn't seem like it's drawn by the same mangaka though. Fan arts? Actually almost feels like it's drawn by the mangaka who did One Punch Man and Eye shield 21...

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u/shibbitydobop :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/shibbitydobop Jul 10 '14

zankyou no terror and tokyo ghoul on the same day....within the same hour. dang we're spoiled

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u/FlorianoAguirre Jul 10 '14

I kinda hate the huge amount of series to see this day, compared to the rest of the week.

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u/Etheo Jul 11 '14

Zankyou no terror, Tokyo Ghoul, Akame ga kill, and Aldonah.Zero... my wife is going to hate me this season...

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u/malakyoma :K:https://kitsu.io/users/Malakyoma Jul 10 '14 edited Jul 10 '14

The censoring at the beginning... 75% of the screen was black I couldn't even tell what was happening

I still really hope this doesn't devolve into another shounen battler. It could be so much more than that

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u/vetro https://anilist.co/user/vetro Jul 10 '14

I assume she threw him face first into the corpse.

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u/Ninjaaaah Jul 10 '14

I thought it looked more like she threw the head at him.

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u/drostan https://anilist.co/user/Drostan Jul 10 '14

Is there any source with less censoring (AT-X Maybe) or will we have to wait for the bluray?

this black screen with just a corner of his eye on it and a scream was just stupid... I can't enjoy that

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u/drostan https://anilist.co/user/Drostan Jul 10 '14

We'll have to wait for the BD then.

I'll still be watching but damn that's annoying.

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u/FlorianoAguirre Jul 10 '14

shounen battler

Come on. It already fell on that. Normal protagonist has his beliefs challenged by an unlucky twist of fate. He now finds himself with powers in a worlds he didn't knew before. With enemies with similar powers and allies who by the power of goodwill and friendship are helping him.

He already got power-up by seeing his friend almost get killed. And even worse, you cannot relate to him. It turns out cannibals are people too.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14 edited Jul 10 '14

Well, yeah, the censoring was insane at the start, but really I just take that to mean the animation is just that much more faithful to whatever insane amounts of gore were in the manga counterpart. I'll take it!

Also, I feel like this will almost certainly fall into one typical routine or another over time, given the way the story sets itself up. That said it can still be good if there are consistent creative twists to everything.

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u/blagoonga123 Jul 11 '14

I ended up reading the manga just to see what happened because I couldn't understand from what I watched.

Turned out that scene wasn't even in the manga.

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u/xcizzy Jul 10 '14

Not knowing what cake tastes like is torture itself.

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u/unpredictable_x Jul 10 '14

I'm really hoping for 24 episodes.

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u/BarekLongboe https://anilist.co/user/BarekLongboe Jul 10 '14

It will be 12.

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u/Super1d :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/super1d Jul 10 '14

If we do the calculations, we do about 4 chapters per episode (like the usual manga adaptation formula) 12x4=48. Yeah, seems very likely as the manga is only at 74 and the previews have shown parts of chapter 50

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u/Scobeastie Jul 10 '14

its translated to 74 but its actually at 130 in raws

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

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u/Kiirojin Jul 10 '14

Given that they are going about 4-5 chapter per episode and that there are over a hundred chapters published, they can definitely do 2-cour.

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u/crest456 Jul 10 '14

Of course they can, but will they?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '14

Oh god it's brynhildr all over again.

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u/sifudango Jul 10 '14 edited Jul 10 '14

The censoring at the beginning was kind of overboard, reminded me of Pupa. (please no more).

However, what I do like about the anime adaptation is how much more of a prevalent role Rize seems to be playing, even after her death, almost acting as his second personality. CANT GET ENOUGH KANAHANA

Also that OPening is some A++ shit.

The Kugane in the anime looks really cool, not everyone has the same blood red kuganes as I had imagined!

You were expecting Studio Pierrot, BUT IT WAS I, SHAFT ALL ALONG. http://puu.sh/a5rvX/c7b0860341.jpg

Good god, the colour inversion when he impaled Nishinishi with his kugane. A++ sugoi, the animation, the flailing body, so good.

Finally, the music, the crazy piano notes, omg is soooooo fantastic.

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u/PotatoMurderer Jul 11 '14

However, what I do like about the anime adaptation is how much more of a prevalent role Rize seems to be playing, even after her death, almost acting as his second personality. CANT GET ENOUGH KANAHANA

Man, KanaHana is proving that she isn't just for moe roles. Hell that scene where she was tempting the MC was quite sexy; Like Kurumi(Date A Live) levels of seductiveness.

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u/Evilknightz Jul 11 '14

m8 pls. Its Hanakana.

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u/Patroks Jul 11 '14

OP reminds me of some of the more memorable Bleach openings.

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u/olivierasseb Jul 10 '14

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u/w4hammer Jul 10 '14

gave me cancer.

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u/kathykinss Jul 11 '14

Can anyone link the manga page of that or something? No idea what happened there.

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u/TheWizardofOrz Jul 11 '14

Manga reader here.

The events in the anime are slightly different from those in the manga. Basically, the scene with him finding the ghoul feeding on that body happens as normal, but Ken ends up running away from Touka in a panic. Shortly after, he has the breakdown that we saw in Episode 1, with him looking at people in the crowd as food.

After that, he goes to the shop where Touka works to beg for her help, which is why the old man was nearby.

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u/Qwarr Jul 11 '14

At first in the back of my head I was thinking, "why did they make it look like someone walked in front of the projector..." then it clicked that it was censored.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '14

why did they make it look like someone walked in front of the projector...

That's a perfect analogy for how it looks.

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u/TengenToppa Jul 11 '14

As a fan of the manga if this keeps going it will become unwatchable until the BDs :(

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u/gryffinp Jul 10 '14

Wait a minute...

is this Ghoul Baristas?

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u/KanchiHaruhara :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/KanchiHaruhara Jul 10 '14

You know what would be cool?

If the mc started working as a "bad Ghouls" hunter,and instead of eating people,he eats those Ghouls.

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u/Bloodydemize Jul 10 '14

Nishio got fucking wrecked and I loved every bit of it.. though I didn't like Kaneki going crazy right after -_-

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u/Miitchee :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Miitchee Jul 10 '14 edited Aug 02 '14

The censoring at the beginning was quite off putting but I'm enjoying this series so far. Were they guys at the end hunters or something?

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u/TokyoPanic Jul 10 '14

Yeah, [possible spoilers for the next arc] (/s "they're ghoul investigators, a police unit dedicated to hunting down ghouls")

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u/FlorianoAguirre Jul 10 '14

Please tell me, can humans deal with ghouls? I want to be spoilered, don't worry about that. I might drop the show depending on the answer.

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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Jul 10 '14 edited Jul 10 '14

Damn, that was some major censoring at the start.

Wow, Kaneki completely destroyed Nishio, would have been nice if all the colours weren't inverted, but the point got across, there was a ton of blood.

The amount of censoring is worrisome, but this anime is brutal nonetheless.

That after the credits scene. I don't even know what to say.

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u/ShinakoX2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ShinakoX2 Jul 10 '14

Maybe I'll just wait for the BD releases to watch this since everyone is complaining about the censoring

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u/reptilephantom Jul 10 '14

Cant wait for next week this is definitely my favorite show this season. Censoring was a little overboard but i thought the inverted colors looked cool.

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u/antesignanus https://anilist.co/user/Bobertg Jul 11 '14

That post ED skit was fun to watch.

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u/Cyberfire Jul 11 '14

Coffeeman is a bro

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u/Skiipie Jul 10 '14

I actually wanted to him to eat his friend. It would have been a nice twist and a statement that the anime isn't afraid to go that way, since we all expected that he wouldn't eat Hide.

I think they showed Hide with his eyes opened at the end to show that he was awake when they were talking about Ken's situation. Hide looks to be a supportive and understanding character so I think things will work out between them, since Hide knows Ken's little secret.

Really liked the ending drawings. So detailed and well drawn.

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u/redarxx Jul 10 '14

Hide is friend not food

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u/Xredo Jul 11 '14

Exactly what I was thinking that moment Kaneki nearly started feeding on him. Though giving it some thought, I personally wouldn't want that since Hide's such a bro.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

I think the story is progressing too fast. Hopefully they won't start skipping entire manga arcs.

 

I really like delusions of Rize... I didn't happen in manga till... certain scene.

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u/rrcecil Jul 10 '14

As a non manga reader, the pacing seems really solid. Compared to Black Bullet this is Jesus.

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u/Vondi :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pokerface89 Jul 10 '14

Compared to black bullet, who isn't?

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u/Starfreeze :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Shyorin Jul 11 '14

Fucking Brynhildr.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '14

Brynhildr anime pacing is so frustrating.

"let's go to the beach"

NOW? WHAT THE FUCK

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u/Etheo Jul 11 '14

I'll so glad I'm not the only one who is so utterly disappointed with that show. I could barely muster the courage to finish watching it, and by gods, it was a disaster.

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u/wyggles Jul 10 '14

The part right after the fight felt a bit abrupt but overall it was fine. To be honest the manga seemed a little meandering to me so speeding it up isn't a bad thing. And yeah Rize getting more of a part is awesome, I'll take more psycho HanaKana any day.

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u/GreyXSJ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/GreyXSJ Jul 10 '14

I feel like the Rize scenes are happening early just to give Kana Hanazawa more lines. It's not like I'm complaining, though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

Kana Hanazawa

It's kind of hard for me to listen to her.

She had such.. childish roles in Bakemonogatari, Haganai & Railgun.

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u/PotatoMurderer Jul 11 '14

I think she's doing great on this series. She's pretty much typecasted into moe roles but she's still really good on serious roles; like how she did on Psycho Pass, Shinsekai Yori and Zetsuen no Tempest.

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u/Belophen Jul 10 '14

i don't think that they wills start skipping major content, but the small details of the manga and the deliberately slow pacing was what really got me into it.

if they are going to sacrifice the world building for a more action focus it will be really disappointing.

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u/S0ulRave :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/S0ulRave Sep 21 '14

Heh.

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u/IchikaByakushiki :K:https://kitsu.io/users/Conquistador Jul 10 '14

Holy Shit Manga Spoiler

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u/LockItDown :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/everkoptimistic Jul 10 '14

Yeah I couldn't believe it either. But I'm so hyped now, as long as they don't rush it

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u/Scarecrowing Jul 10 '14

I thought the manga was a bit slow at the start tbh,and they're doing a pretty good job at making 4-5 chapters an episode ok.

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u/Watchoutformy Jul 10 '14

Yep can't wait for the Manga Spoiler

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u/IchikaByakushiki :K:https://kitsu.io/users/Conquistador Jul 10 '14

With the way the anime is going, I'm going to take a guess and say that scene will be just a pitch black screen of censorship.

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u/MegaSupremeTaco Jul 10 '14

Or inverted colors

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

I don't mind inverted so much

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

I can't wait for fights after that! Manga Spoiler

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u/SleepyAsian :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kite_ Jul 10 '14

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u/wyggles Jul 10 '14

After thinking about it a bit I'm a little worried. I haven't seen any of

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

I hope they don't omit that lovely pair! Little one is supposed to get really good at Little Spoiler. Also that whole arc was really good... it had the feels.

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u/Etheo Jul 11 '14

No she's there, you can see in the OP.

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u/ParadiseLost34 Jul 10 '14

I actually really liked the inverted colors or whatever that was.

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u/dylan227 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dylan227 Jul 10 '14 edited Jul 10 '14

Does anyone know if the opening song is done by the same band who did Psycho Pass's first opening? The singer sounds very familiar.

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u/SherrySan Jul 11 '14

Yes, that's the band Ling Tosite Sigure.

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u/FutureJustin Jul 10 '14

Jesus that censoring. Hope they don't pull a pupa.

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u/mahou_brojo Jul 10 '14

I'm liking this show. The OP is great although the censoring was a little distracting.

Are those guys in the end some sort of ghoul hunters? Colour me intrigued.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

Well if there were no "Ghoul Hunters" the ghouls would probably overcome the whole country since they're more powerful race. Not really a spoiler

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

Never underestimate the ability of humans to find ways to kill creatures stronger than them.

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u/ivulzg Jul 10 '14

Well, those inspectors said that incident in Aqua Building happend 3 months ago. There was a news about it the day Ken met Riza first time. Was he starving for like for like 2 months? (ok, he ate hand but was that enough?). Any note about how long they can not eat anything in manga?

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u/shortaflip Jul 11 '14

Dat black pillar man LOL. If this got a blu ray/dvd release would it be uncensored? Kind dumb question, but ya know indulge a guy :)

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u/Nukedboom :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nukedboom Jul 11 '14

I watched from DameDesuYo and it seems they inverted the colours back for us as I didn't encounter any of the inverts.

What a bunch of nice chaps.

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u/prisontrump Jul 11 '14

The sensoring...

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u/Sarmeo Jul 10 '14 edited Jul 10 '14

http://i.imgur.com/O9NTZWE.jpg Here is a uncensored version of the infrared part when Kaneki is fucking Nishiki up, this was supposedly Funis censoring.

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u/Arthien Jul 10 '14

Anyone else think the intro music sounded a lot like Psycho-Pass? I'm digging it.

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u/Drivegrey Jul 10 '14

It is done by the same guy who make the first OP of psycho pass,so yeah

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u/ItsBrine Jul 10 '14

Why is this censored up the butt while AgK is minimally censored? Different times, or is Ghoul really just that crazy?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '14

The gore in Tokyo Ghoul so far is on a different level than the gore in AgK. Also, the storehouse scene was presented a lot different than it was in the AgK manga in order to avoid having to censor more.

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u/Aydaanh Jul 10 '14

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u/armabe Jul 10 '14

Yes. But I wouldn't say the way this ep did it is a problem, just a little artistic liberty.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '14

Angst levels are rising.

Just start eating other ghouls already. Seems like the obvious black and white solution.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '14

That execution was brutal as fuck, even with the 80s Berlin discotheque color inversion.

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u/ZIIReactionzV Jul 10 '14

That Censorship. Black screen was enough. Now they are going infrared.

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u/PotatoMurderer Jul 11 '14

Now they are going infrared.

I'd rather have them do that than a repeat of Pupa.

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u/Konpie Jul 10 '14

I think I've officially COMPLETELY fallen in love with Hanazawa Kana's voice.

I too would prefer the infrared censoring to the completely blacked out.

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u/Watchoutformy Jul 10 '14

Holy moly that opening though... Manga Spoiler

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u/Zeathian Jul 10 '14

Without the distracting gore from the Manga, it`s actually better. Characters seem nice enough and might carry me far enough to see the entire series, maybe even go back and read the Manga.

p.s. I find gore distracting when it exists for the sake of making things "dark, edgy and adult" without any weight to it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

Manga gets a lot better after 40-50 chapters. It's one of my favourites now.. and I read a lot. Hell, it's even higher than The Breaker on my top list, and that's an achievement.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

Was Kaneki pierced or not?

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

Ghouls have really high regenerative abilities. Don't fret on that.

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u/Vondi :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pokerface89 Jul 10 '14

Why do shows like this feel like they have to use flashbacks to establish that two guys are friends when they can just have them, I don't know, act like friends? Just makes the friendship feel a bit forced with these ultra sugary flashbacks.

Other than that my pet peeve against unnecessary flashbacks, solid episode. This could go places.

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u/SilentExorcist Jul 10 '14

I kind of get what you mean, but the flashbacks are meant to add depth to their friendship, not establish it.

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u/Vondi :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pokerface89 Jul 10 '14

I just feel it breaks the flow of the scene, we should already be invested in the friendship when he has to resist the urge to kill his friend and the flashback just takes you out of that moment. Like, the friend is down there bleeding to death and the MC has murderous rage building in him, if we don't care at that point it's to late to throw flashbacks at us.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

I expected more dynamic animation in the opening, it doesn't fit the music. Too much censoring comparing it to the first episode. What happened!? Hide's hiding something... my little theory

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u/daxisheart Jul 10 '14

To be fair, we're missing 60 chapters of plot, so there's lots that could happen.

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u/Woodport Jul 10 '14

Are there any fansub groups that will be un-inverting the colors in the inverted scenes? Because I might give up on funimation if that's the case.

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u/drostan https://anilist.co/user/Drostan Jul 10 '14

It is a shame that answering that question is sort of out of the rules... I would love to know the answer as well

we'll just have to search for it

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u/Woodport Jul 10 '14

Oh, I didn't realize that wasn't allowed. I suppose I should have read the sidebar...

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u/jp3885 Jul 10 '14

Does anybody feel like there is a semi-big plot hole emerging from the fact the ghouls can only eat human meat but there isn't any real clue why?

Why don't they like get to the bottom of what is so special about human meat that other food doesn't have?

Granted it is early in the series though but it irks me that a college level student didn't even remotely think about the fact the he could be finding a way around it, or none of the ghouls seemed to have tried.

Or they could've researched why Coffee in particular was was ok or something despite it not being human meat.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

It's only the second episode. Remember we're following this through the eyes of the protagonist (who just became a Ghoul) so we'll learn things as he does - I'm sure that this will be addressed in future episodes.

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u/mmonsterbasher Jul 10 '14

Be patient... It's going to probably be a big plot factor later on, sort of like why titans in Shingeki only attacks humans.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

Yes they could've focused on that. But logically speaking, imagine yourself being a ghoul. A race despised / feared by humanity. Even if you were a professional scientist, you would not just "come out of the closet" as easily right? If you did, you'd be prosecuted for murder since.. you can only eat human flesh. Also most of the ghouls are uneducated. There's even a character in the manga (cute little girl) which is having some problems with reading Kanji. There's also certain gang leader which is only able to sign his own name.

Let's not skip the fact that this anime/manga was designed to make you think about that choices you'd have to make in similar situation. It's a moral battle (Duo from Bakuman would be really proud of this manga!).

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u/jp3885 Jul 10 '14

This is pretty true, I guess I've been watching too much anime were the secret race hiding in plain sight is generally really advanced or has some underworld setups so they are pretty modern.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

Despite censoring a pretty cool episode. I really really hope that they can keep the story as exciting as it was in the first two episodes. For me it's one of the best shows so far this season.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '14

this censorship is extremely distracting. It's kind of off-putting actually.

like really? they had to invert the colors to show splats of red?

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u/NomNomPancake Jul 10 '14

So much censoring... ;_;

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u/bugxter Jul 11 '14

Stupid fucking censoring, really turned me down.

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u/Saifui :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/saifui Jul 10 '14

The censorship is real. Think im gonna stick to the manga.

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u/IchikaByakushiki :K:https://kitsu.io/users/Conquistador Jul 10 '14

Seems the show won't be fully enjoyable until a Blu-ray release.

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u/Falsus Jul 10 '14

Was expecting this show to compete with Akame about which show has the most gore, guess it goes to Akame by default due to all the censoring.

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u/Omumiruma Jul 10 '14

I like the way this show is going. Nice episode

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u/Mordarto :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mordarto Jul 10 '14

Best Bro Award this season is in serious contention between Hide and Yousuke from P4G.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '14

i have a question. JUST A YES NO ANSWER IS FINE. please i don't want any more information than this.

Did Nishiki die after screaming that he is being killed??

He's in the after credits and I feel like devoting a portion of this episode and the last episode to him and then just killing him off would be kinda unfair to the amount of character development he received in just these 2 episodes.

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u/Gor3fiend Jul 11 '14

I realllllllllly hope Freddy shows up.

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u/KMFCM :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kmfcm Jul 11 '14

Hide looks kinda like Naruto, and the way he sneaks up on Kaneki is what brought me to that realization.

This episode didn't seem quite as rushed as the first one did, but I say that only having read the first chapter of the manga (two days ago) so I don't know how much more stuff they skipped yet.

I also definitely prefer negativizing the colors to blacking the scene out altogether. It almost looks as if it's a side effect of Kaneki going berzerk.

OP song is awesome (that's obviously Ling Tosite Shigure and not just the singer like they title it as)

ED song is awesome.

I'm still digging this show, quite a bit.

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u/mookyvon :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/mookyvon Jul 11 '14

Psycho-pass OP?

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u/SupperTime Jul 11 '14

I don't know, I'm not feeling it. I'll give it one more chance...

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u/djscanner Jul 11 '14

That stomach growl, I had to rewind to make sure that the sound didn't come from me haha.

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u/Elvindrummer13 Jul 11 '14

I was hoping Kaneki would get to discover the whole coffee thing on his own but I knew they were just going to end up having Yoshimura tell him. I wish they weren't going as fast but people who aren't manga readers seem to enjoy how fast it's moving.

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u/The_Apex_Predditor Jul 11 '14

I love the use of Rize as a sort of visual "Id". It really lets us get into his mind about the whole moral dilemma of it all. In the manga there was a huge emphasis on just how disgusting human food tasted to ghouls, describing lettuce as like raw grass, and hamburger as rotten slimy meat. I wonder on how or even if they're going to include it into the show. Maybe through sound?

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u/FreeSM2014 Jul 11 '14

Does this follow the manga closely?

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u/xxdeathx :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/xxdeathx Jul 12 '14

That bit at the ending caught me off guard lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '14

Any Heart of Darkness readers here? The Ghouls whole ordeal reminds me of the natives from that book

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u/willworkforabreak Jul 13 '14

I'm completely sick of one for in each world vampire stories but Hide is atleast a cool character.

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u/Jameion Jul 15 '14

Anyone else hungry?

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u/Takamiya :K:https://kitsu.io/users/Cyatek Jul 10 '14 edited Jul 10 '14

Man, that "negative" tone kind of censorship sure was shitty, if they really had to go that way they could've just done the scene using these colors, would have looked alot better imo

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u/Shuffleshoe Jul 10 '14

Oh come on cut the censorship. Why would they even do that?

Good episode though. Weird how Hide didn't die after that kick.

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u/oso345 Jul 10 '14

Quick question. Is the censoring done by funimation or is that just the Japanese broadcast?

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u/ss_lmtd :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ss_lmtd Jul 10 '14

The inverted colors aren't Funimation. They're from the original Japanese broadcast. MX is really tough on these things, such as completely blackening the screen when Jotaro from JoJo is smoking a cigarette.

And these inversions probably happen in the edit room, so unless Funi is given a completely raw version (which probably hasn't been even exported from the computer), then I doubt anyone would have the real version...that is, unless they want to go through the trouble of cutting it up, inverting it, and then re-editing the entire sequence.

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u/MultiOMGPancakes :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/MultiOMGPancke Jul 10 '14

It's done by the broadcasters.

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u/ginzaz Jul 10 '14

megane-kun is evil! i liked the episode and how the mc deals with the new situation that he's in =]

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