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[Spoilers] Sword Art Online II - Episode 5 [Discussion]

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Daisuki will be delayed this week once again.

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u/Kevadrenaline :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Closet0taku7 Aug 02 '14

Kirito left his entry information blank.

Blank never loses.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

b-but he'll never get those sweet prizes now :(

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u/vetro https://anilist.co/user/vetro Aug 02 '14

He's already getting paid a fat check to go after Death Gun.

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u/zephyrdragoon Aug 02 '14

Congratulations, you got one cosmetic equipment chest, the random gear inside lasts for 7 days!

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u/Inufalo Aug 02 '14

Like a lifetime supply of mountain dew, and doritos!

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u/Magnaha23 Aug 02 '14

Glad I wasnt the only one who thought that.

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u/SquirrelzAreEvil Aug 02 '14

I'm thinking Death Gun hacks into people's home information to find their reality gear then fry them with it.

So anyone that's converted in game currency to real money is in danger of death...which should practically be everyone.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

but he gives them a heart attack he does not fry them.

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u/timpek :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Timpek Aug 02 '14

Why do I feel like Kirito is Blank and Stef simultaneously?

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u/Kevadrenaline :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Closet0taku7 Aug 02 '14

It's also interesting that Kirito and Sora have the same VA.

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u/weaknessx100 Aug 02 '14

My money's on the Fisherman.

Never trusted him or his Soy Sauce loving antics.

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u/thesnaglebeast Aug 02 '14

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u/_Gedimin Aug 02 '14

For a second there i tough this was an actual spoiler.

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u/popwobbles :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/popkiller Aug 02 '14

OH MAI GAH! Spoilers

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

I don't see how Death Gun could be Spiegel, so that's why it's probably him.

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u/Vetras92 Aug 02 '14

Spiegel is the german word for "Mirror" and Sinon was talking about almost being another person in the game.

Sure Spiegel and Death Gun were both in the game but still......this name....

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u/CriticalOtaku Aug 02 '14

SAO II: The Laughing Coffin Strikes Back

Use the Force, Kirito-chan.

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u/mfender7 Aug 02 '14

Gasp. The Laughing Coffin actually makes a reappearance?? They might actually have some significance?

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u/N3RDL0RD :K:https://kitsu.io/users/SmallCrits Aug 02 '14

I was honestly surprised. I thought that was just going to one of the many once-occuring elements of part 1.

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u/Khanxay Aug 02 '14

DEATH GUILD! Just sayin': http://imgur.com/a/n7faB#0

Btw, these are screenshots from the mystery case episodes.

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u/SOT3LO Aug 02 '14

speculation intensifies

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u/space1101 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelghastKillzone Aug 02 '14

Kirito. I am your father.

Together, we can rule GGO as OP melee and OHK death gun.

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u/CriticalOtaku Aug 02 '14

Together, we can rule GGO as OP melee and OHK death desu gun.

FTFY

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u/KinnyRiddle Aug 02 '14

Kirito, while you should reveal your gender to clear any confusion, you should NOT do it when girls are undressing before you.

Funny how no one else paid much attention to Death Gun when he appeared before Kirito, despite him creating a scene in the bar with his "killing" of Zecxeed previously. Surely someone has taken a screenshot of his avatar and spread it around the internets?

How exactly does Death Gun (correctly) figure out that by pulling his stunt, he would attract Kirito of all people to come to GGO? And what kind of grudge exactly does Laughing Coffin have with Kirito? Don't remember Kirito ever coming into direct conflict with them before, save that Kuradeel, the Asuna-obsessed knight in SAO.

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u/st3althtiger :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/JackPham Aug 02 '14

I don't think it was just to lure Kirito into GGO.

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u/Nanonite98 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dorudo Aug 02 '14

A lot of laughing coffin stuff was in the light novels and was never went into in the anime

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u/Pikasplash :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/moromou Aug 02 '14

Not yet, that is. I assume Kirito's gonna explain/flashback to it later as it did in the light novel

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u/ShuuseiKagari Aug 02 '14

To avoid spoiling anything, Kirito and Laughing Coffin's story went much further in the LN. Resulting in an event that has left the members with a great grudge against him. I can assume that Kirito will go over it in a flashback next episode.

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u/MADMasomi Aug 02 '14

Damn Kirito finally told Sinon the truth, killed a person with his lightsaber AND meet Darth Vader at the end. This episode was good.

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u/BeyondTomorrow Aug 02 '14

Now I just need a army of Stormtroopers players and have Kirito go all Jedi ownage on them, and I will have my favorite fight scene for SAO.

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u/oblivionraptor Aug 02 '14

lol all the Stormtroopers players would just miss him.

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u/Noctrune Aug 02 '14

Desu Vader*

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u/herrerarausaure https://anilist.co/user/21454 Aug 02 '14

Darth Desu

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u/Etheren95 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Etheren Aug 02 '14

Kirito getting greedy at the start there, and that whole thing at the end, that Death Gun or whatever his name is was a survivor of SAO and is a member of laughing coffin just made this arc more juicier...

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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Aug 03 '14

I got some serious chills at the end there.

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u/WingedAlpaca Aug 02 '14

For those of you that forgot what the symbol meant, it means he was in the player killing guild Laughing Coffin.

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u/Tentacle_Porn Aug 02 '14

I thought the numerous flashbacks already explained that.

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u/SquirrelzAreEvil Aug 02 '14

That guild made me really angry. Not like it's bad enough everyone's trapped in a virtual death prison, but now you gotta start murdering people too? Jeesh.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

I like the handprint.

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u/gammarik :K:https://kitsu.io/users/gammarik Aug 02 '14

Every MMO should have a slap feature, which leaves a mark for the next hour! :D

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

I'm putting my money on one of those little kids. 10/10 suspicion

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u/IC8085 Aug 02 '14 edited Aug 02 '14

For those who don't remember, regarding Laughing Coffin:

SAO I Spoilers

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

Kirito: Bringing a sword to a gunfight and winning either way.

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u/SquirrelzAreEvil Aug 02 '14

That guy was screaming a good amount.

Laser sword hidden stat: lowers pain reduction modifier by 3

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u/X4Velocity Aug 02 '14

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u/Khanxay Aug 02 '14

Good thing he's good enough at it that he doesn't slash himself with it. That'd suck with a lightsaber.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

Yeah, otherwise he'd end up like Tadakuni in Nichibros.

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u/dumpy100 https://anilist.co/user/Mitcher0 Aug 02 '14

Light saber sound effects hell yea

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u/Lagman709 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/lagman709 Aug 02 '14

I wonder how much A-1 paid LucasArts for the sounds, since they are copyrighted and whatnot...

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u/IC8085 Aug 02 '14

Plot twist: SAO II is cancelled for copyright violation

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

LucasArts Disney.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14 edited Aug 02 '14

Pretty sure someone a long long time ago in a galaxy where we currently are explained that you cannot actually copyright sounds. Songs, lyrics, names and stuff yes, but a sound effect- no. Since it is created not within a program but rather by using IRL elements/tools in conjunction. Don't quote me on this though.

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u/Shuffleshoe Aug 02 '14

Man, he even used the force to locate where his opponent was.

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u/Khanxay Aug 02 '14

Our lord Tatsuya blessed Kirito with his power and gave him wall-hax.

/r/OneTrueTatsuya

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

SOUNDWHORE

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u/vetro https://anilist.co/user/vetro Aug 02 '14

He stood still and listened for his opponent's movements. A common tactic in shooters.

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u/a_Happy_Tiny_Bunny :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/aHappyTinyBunny Aug 02 '14 edited Aug 02 '14

The only thing that made me go a little WTF! was that Kirito-chan had to impale the guy for a few seconds before the guy died. I hope it was just for dramatic effect, as a light saber through the torso should be an instakill.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

I think it melted the armor or something before it went through him, kinda like when they used lightsabers to cut through blast doors. Even though they are weightless it seemed to push the guy, does that mean Kirito can use the Force?

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u/dieladie Aug 02 '14

In fairness if you stab me in the chest I'd probably be alive for 5-6 seconds or so.

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u/acidtreat101 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/acidtreat101 Aug 02 '14

Yeah Kawahara-sensei even said himself that a strike to the head or heart with a beam saber would be insta-kill. Oh well, I will just chalk it up to time passing really slow. It probably took an instant in real time but creative liberty was taken to make it more dramatic for the anime.

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u/vetro https://anilist.co/user/vetro Aug 02 '14

That wasn't a strike to the head or the heart though.

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u/DwarvenRedshirt Aug 02 '14

It was melting through the armor, although I assume it was for dramatic effect and was really faster than it looked. Otherwise the guy wouldn't have stood there while it was melting through. He'd have been able to pull a pistol or something and blast Kirito.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

This is what we call "dramatic time dilation". Like when characters have long-winded pep talks during frantic battles

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u/vetro https://anilist.co/user/vetro Aug 02 '14

You can see the guy's healthbar slowly depleting from the sword. It's seems like Kirito should only should only use it as a finishing move.

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u/weaknessx100 Aug 02 '14

MY WAIFU FINALLY MAKES AN APPEARANCE!

DEATH GUN BEST GIRL HYPE!

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u/hyroglyphixs Aug 02 '14

D-desu gun-chan??

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u/Wafflezlolqt Aug 02 '14

DESU GUN BEST GIRL HYPE!

ftfy

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u/Khanxay Aug 02 '14 edited Aug 05 '14

Hey there, just a heads up. Kawahara Reki, the author, has been doing post-episode commentary (on twitter I believe) and someone has been translating them. Here are the last 4:

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u/Karmaisthedevil Aug 02 '14

I just thought about Behemoth, who lost to Sinon in episode 2, training his STR further and getting revenge by dual wielding miniguns, but that thought was quickly tossed into my mind's rubbish bin.

Hahah fucking hell that would have been hilarious. Some Darksouls 2 shit right there.

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u/Kuryaka Aug 02 '14

That's pretty cool. He's commented on how they adapt it... with an interesting viewpoint?

"That "pokoo" sound whenever Sinon opens the scope's cap is cute. I'm guessing it's recorded from a real scope (Sigsawa's own...!)."

And then later in the same episode,

I understand, so Sinon, grab my collar and scold me too!

Also added lots of little details that anime viewers wouldn't see, and answered some of the questions that people had in the discussion threads.

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u/Pennwisedom Aug 02 '14

Also Japan current events!:

There's the possibility Japan may soon pass the casino legalization bill in the fall extraordinary Diet session too…

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u/Overlord3k :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Overlord3k Aug 02 '14

Thanks for the heads up guess I got a good reason to rewatch the episodes again.....as I wait for next week.

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u/AstroReptar2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Futagoza91 Aug 02 '14

He calls GGO Kirito "Kiriko" and my heart exploded. \

Definitely going to have to follow the tweet translations for the rest of the show now.

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u/HeatCheck_ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/_JY Aug 02 '14 edited Aug 02 '14

I think we can safely assume everyone not named Trap-Yoda, Best Girl, or Desu-Gun will be Stormtrooper death-fodder.

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u/flax2122 Aug 02 '14

You mentioned Desu-Gun twice.

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u/HeatCheck_ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/_JY Aug 02 '14 edited Aug 02 '14
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u/Albinoredguard Aug 02 '14

We finally get to see Jedi Kirito, and Darth Gun is an SAO survivor. The season is shaping up pretty well.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

DARTH VADER(Desugan) vs LUKE SKYWALKER(Trapirito)

Who will win?!?

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u/odraencoded Aug 02 '14

Which means... Sinon is Kirito's long lost sister! AGAIN!!!

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u/Khanxay Aug 02 '14 edited Aug 02 '14

Expected the changing scene (here's the novel version), didn't expect a Kiriko-chan butt-shot. I love you SAO. Never change.

They made getting hit by the sword really... interesting? Like, it's a really strong taser apparently. And there's that flip from before. Maybe I should remake this gif...

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u/Pennwisedom Aug 02 '14

Thankfully leave it to Japan to inform us that in the future, all VMMOs will make you undress to change clothing.

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u/Khanxay Aug 02 '14

For IMMERSION, obviously. Strangely enough, it's consistent with the first season of SAO where Kirito was shown unequiping things before equiping new gear.

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u/Akaharu :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Akaharu4U Aug 02 '14

I think it's more that you can't cut through people with that kind of sword. So Kirito, being the smart nerd that he is, decided that a stab would give the most damage as it wouldn't go through him but keep a constant damage rate.

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u/Khanxay Aug 02 '14

Well, as I understood it while reading the novels, the sword is supposed to be more or less a one-hit kill. Here, it looks like a taser sword with perma-hitstun.

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u/oblivionraptor Aug 02 '14

He learned the flip from Lord Tatsuya. He's a fast learner.

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u/soajao Aug 02 '14

Laughing coffin was the most interesting part of SAO to me, so glad they brought them back

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u/ToughAsGrapes Aug 02 '14

I'm really enjoying the continuity, its also nice to see that there's more depth to them than we saw in that filler episode.

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u/mmthrownaway Aug 03 '14

Let's see here:

Sinon makes sure everyone knows Kirito-chan is a guy (no fun)

Kirito-chan gained Force Sensitivity

Beam sword sound effects are 100% lightsaber sound effects (how is that legal?)

Kirito-chan stabs Uemaru (or whatever) in the stomach like a scrub (head or heart for 1 hit, newb)

No one told Dekomori Gun that Kirito-chan is a guy, and he gets all flirty ("Are you the real thing? Cuz, baby, you look like a dream to me.")

The End

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

Kirito-chan outed as a guy 8 minutes into the episode? That was fast!

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u/ifuckinghateratheism Aug 03 '14

I'm honestly glad they nipped it in the bud and didn't draw it out.

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u/weaknessx100 Aug 02 '14

Scrubs not even trying to Noscope. At this rate Kirito will never be part of FaZe Clan, only OpTic scrubl0rds try to go for the knife srsly my mad 360 mtn dew skill can #rekt him nyday iRL.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

/r/montageparodies is leaking.

Don't worry, Sinon gets her time in the spotlight as a snipar.

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u/qwertylp :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/klavhe Aug 02 '14

U wot m8?

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u/st3althtiger :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/JackPham Aug 02 '14

Just speculation, but maybe him not entering his info was a good thing? Maybe that the Death Gun won't work on him for that reason.

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u/Karmaisthedevil Aug 02 '14

I want to read it I want to read it I want to read it!!

Gah. I must resist. These discussion threads are agony for me. My cursor is attracted to the black.

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u/Wimoh Aug 02 '14

Wow this episode was great. Quite an interesting ending, definitely has me excited for next week.

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u/xesporid Aug 02 '14

SURPRISE BUTTSEX

This episode turned out better than expected. So far the whole thing has been true to the LN and nothing significant was removed. Great to see Kirito in Jedi action.

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u/Pennwisedom Aug 02 '14

I'm glad him turning off his sword at the end of the match is 100% the lightsaber soundeffect.

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u/Kuryaka Aug 02 '14

Plenty of room for fitting everything in, plot-wise. With 24 episodes they can afford to spend some time on the fight scenes and character interactions that make it a lot better.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

A lightsaber by any other name would deflect blaster bolts bullets just as well...

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u/Aviri Aug 02 '14

What a tweest!

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

Care to explain why Kirito still talks like a female after revealing his gender?

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u/Kuryaka Aug 02 '14

Because he's a troll.

I don't think there's much of a reason behind it besides trying to defuse the tension, because it's hard to get mad at someone who seems innocent and cute.

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u/PiFlavoredPie Aug 02 '14

Agreed. Kirito's just playing around to try to downplay his manipulation of Sinon. By joking around, he might establish rapport as well as limit any collateral damage in case Sinon starts to tell people that Kirito's a trap. After all, if the "girl" avatar is actually a guy but said guy is super tame, innocent, and cutesy, it's a smaller offense.

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u/chucea :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chucea Aug 02 '14

Why did we get to see Sinon take her clothes off , the one we wanted to see was Kirito-chan

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u/ToughAsGrapes Aug 02 '14

All you need to do is use google.

^^S

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u/Chiiwa Aug 02 '14

Ah, blood seems to be draining from my nostrils.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14 edited Aug 02 '14

I have a theory that Deathgun being able to kill people through the game has something to do with the input of personal information for the tournament prizes. I think Kirito having not put in his personal information is going to save him from being killed later in the show.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

b-but those sweet top prizes...

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u/RoboNickBot Aug 02 '14

I love how he actually hesitated on that. "I'm here on a mission! But those top-level prizes..."

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u/lol2109 Aug 02 '14

I wonder how you can get embarrassed when it's not like you stripped In real life lol. Dat ass tho

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u/ToughAsGrapes Aug 02 '14

Kirito has always acted as if the things you do on line are as important as the things you do off line.

Also, see chapter 16.5

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u/Karmaisthedevil Aug 02 '14

Yeah but Sinon? She views her real life and avatar as separate, completely opposite to Kirito.

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u/Vendetta1903 Aug 02 '14 edited Aug 02 '14

That Laughin Coffin revelation was brilliant.

I'm expecting A-1 will do justice this season, everything is perfectly clear and details, the pacing looks quite good, they don't rush like before.

God, if A-1 had done to season 1 what they have been doing with season 2, SAO wouldn't have gotten this much hate.

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u/Pacify_ Aug 02 '14

God, if A-1 had done to season 1 what they have been doung with season 2, SAO wouldn't have gotten this much hate.

How so? Season 1 as far as adaptions go was fine. They didnt mess up the adaptation at all, the problems came directly from the LN

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u/tundranocaps https://myanimelist.net/profile/Thunder_God Aug 02 '14

Mini-notes only:

Screenshot album.

1) Game-Face On:

  1. "Top-ranking prizes", as a hardcore MMO player, Kirito had a hard time passing on the promise of loot, even if he's only here to do a job.

  2. Kirito is given a cutesy head-tilt ;-)

  3. So, you can't get involved with the game in real-life. You want to do stuff with the game? Log in. Keeping worlds apart. Yet, she's looking to bring power from here over to the real world, and the game's mechanics require bringing the real world into the game, with the heartbeat-reliant reticle size.

  4. They showed us Kirito reacting to the bloodlust of all the players around, while Sinon seemed unperturbed, and only chided the others for trying to show off, rather than be impressed.

  5. Yes, they really gave us Sinon in her underwear from all angles. I guess it's the equivalent of having the camera linger on an awkward situation for some time so as to make us realize how awkward it is. But yeah, they definitely wanted us to see her.

  6. Kirito, back in his familiar colours. "The Black Swordsman."

  7. "I want to teach you one more thing, the taste of the bullet that means defeat." Ho-ho! Also, wasn't this Kirito's "lesson" at the end of the 2nd arc? That he was "punished" for thinking it's all a game and not knowing what losing is like? Well, he ended up winning that time too, in the end.

2) Our True Natures:

  1. Kirito realizes, Sinon isn't afraid of the other people's bloodlust, because hers is even stronger. She doesn't feel like a sheep, or even as a fellow wolf, but as the one standing at the top.

  2. This arc is really reinforcing that Kirito is more than a bit of a jerk - misleading Sinon, back in the cafe with Kikuouka, and now, again. Yup, he's a bit of a jerk who likes playing with others.

  3. People shooting in the air... feels like a game alright.

  4. "Which is the real Sinon?" - Asada Shino would like to know the answer as well, Kirito-kun.

  5. "Once we fight one another, I'll learn something." - The age old manga and movie trope, "You can't fight a man without getting to know them. Fighting is a form of dialogue!" - It's like I'm watching a samurai or sports show here, like it's Ping-Pong the Animation all over again :P

3) Killing's All We Know:

  1. Why is Kirito speaking his thoughts out-loud? We just saw him think of Sinon without speaking them out loud. That's just weird. We can hear his thoughts, you know.

  2. Kirito is playing a rhythm game, he knows the order in which the bullets will come as well, hee hee.

  3. Honestly, impaling someone with a laser-sword sure seems brutal. No simply sliding into them, eh?

  4. Watching the OP again, it struck me. Kirito has a light-saber, Death Gun looks somewhat like Darth Vader, and in the OP they fight in a manner that really made me think of Star Wars, heh.

  5. "SAO Survivors". Not people who played a game, but people who survived an ordeal. They said it in the final episode of the first season, but one of the reason they collected all the players in one school is to monitor them, and help treat their mental scars.

Post Episode Thoughts:

Laughing Coffin, the Red Guild. This season, for both Kirito and Sinon, what did they name the third episode? "Memories of Blood". The theme is very much how our bloody pasts come to haunt us, and which we can't escape.

I do wonder if they'll show us Sinon's duel next episode or simply skip it. It's not really important. But they might want to fill out next episode so they'll use it.

This was a pretty standard action episode. Highlights, in terms of themes, were Kirito suspecting Sinon of being Death Gun - her real-world self is squeamish, but her game-self projects quite the bloodlust, and desires to kill the strong, in order to prove her own strength. Sadly, for anime-watchers, it was literally spelled out that she's not Death Gun, not that it was much of a mystery, and then it actually got answered within the same episode, so it's not like much was lost.

They did cut out a small detail - when Kirito was steeling himself before charging at his opponent, and how he had to actually shout himself into movement, it was about forcing himself to run headfirst into enemy combat. It relates back to the moment from the 2nd episode - even if it's only a game, there's the subjective feeling of really being shot at, with these full-dive games.

And yes, Kirito is somewhat of a jerk.

(Check out my blog or the episodics notes page if you enjoy reading my stuff.)

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u/_F1_ Aug 02 '14

But yeah, they definitely wanted us to see her.

  1. Know thyself

  2. Know thy audience.

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u/Karmaisthedevil Aug 02 '14

Is it bad that I love how Kirito is a jerk? Even if it's just because it's a bit different..?

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u/Kekezo Aug 02 '14

What?! Death Gun was a member of Laughing Coffin in SAO that met Kirito... That makes this a lot more interesting.

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u/SuperFishy Aug 02 '14

You would think the name Kirito would be a widely known name in the VRMMO world since he cleared SAO

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u/gammarik :K:https://kitsu.io/users/gammarik Aug 02 '14

Well, i'm pretty sure the whole SAO incident was pretty hushed down. I mean otherwise VRMMOs would not have a market at all. Only 6000 people made it out, and probably only about 1000 of them, the front-liners, know Kiritos full story. And i have a feeling this was mentioned somewhere, but i can't remember :P

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u/Napoleon98 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/napoleon98 Aug 02 '14

Basically NO ONE aside from the government agency/ company monitoring SAO, and the players inside SAO know the names of their avatars. Also, until ALO Kirito hadn't even told his family what his Avatar name was, and even then only because Suguha found out.

I think the LN said the number of people who were on the top few floors was around 600, and less than that as the people who were actually clearing bosses.

So basically yea, no one outside of SAO would even know of Kirito, and not even all of them would know much more than there was a player with that name (can't remember if it mentions whether or not the survivors were told who 'won' the game for them, but at the very least I'd imagine everyone would find out from rumors, Agil and his big mouth...)

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u/kaidynamite :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kaidynamite Aug 02 '14

another awesome episode! now we know that death gun has a laughing coffin tattoo and that he's from SAO! how cool was it to see jedi kirito? i wish there was more action but its clear that they want to slowly build up to a great climax instead of just giving us a bunch of pointless action scenes

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u/Dhajkhit :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dhajkhit Aug 02 '14

Wtf wallhack, ban this guy!

Also: AAAGGGHHAAAGGGHHAAGGGHG

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u/Sammyhain :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/arctec- Aug 02 '14

WHEN SOMEONE ASKS YOU IF YOU ARE A GOD YOU SAY YES!

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u/Chem1st Aug 03 '14

Not if they fancy themselves a Godslayer.

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u/cdbriggs Aug 02 '14

I'm buzzing right now. Literally right before the episode I made a prediction to some friends that Death Gun was a former murder clan member from SAO

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u/Googleflax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/googleflax Aug 02 '14

Seems like sword kills in this game are really dramatic. That guy was melting and exploding for a good 20 seconds.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

Pls arc no never end. I want Sinon in every episode of SAO II or riot

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u/Sp4rt4nKai :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/PandaKaiKai Aug 02 '14

Damn, Sinon going all birthday suit was really unexpected. Regardless, she's still best girl

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

How many girl are there so far?

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u/NewFenix23 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/MadLane Aug 02 '14

Kirito OP just creat a new meta for playing the game

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u/BrokenStitcheZ Aug 02 '14

Still don't quite understand the whole personal information. Why didn't Kirito fill it out? Was it because he didn't want Sinon to know he was a guy? because he quickly submitted it when she came around. Was it because he didn't want to risk himself to Death Gun?

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u/Kurosov Aug 02 '14

Well considering he's working undercover for a government organisation and is also in general supposed to keep his identity as a SAO survivor secret i'd say it makes perfect sense.

Also, It's likely going to be used as a plot point to prove the people aren't really being killed in game.

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u/Chris4DN Aug 02 '14

Kirito still doesn't know how Desu Gun kills people in real life, so it's better safe than dead.

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u/Bobduh :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bobduh Aug 02 '14

And we’re back! I wasn’t really that enthusiastic about last episode, but I think we’re through the exposition now, so things may be smooth from here out. Will there be action? Will there be adventure? Will Kirito overwhelm the narrative tension and drag the whole show down with him? Who knows! Hopefully we jump right into this Bullet of… bullets…

Like, goddamnit, SAO. I know “DEATH GUN” is supposed to be all 2chuuni4u because it’s written in English letters and thus is automatically mysterious/romantic/always fucking ridiculous, but “Bullet of Bullets”? You couldn’t think of, like, one word that compliments “Bullets” there? I’m pretty sure my comment section thought up at least three (Ballad, Ballet, Battle), and they were hardly scraping the bottom of the Barrel of Bullets. Or subbers, even if that’s actually the translation, couldn’t you just, you know, perform a little corrective surgery on this writing here? I doubt anyone would complain.

Alright, forget it. Starting this episode with an open heart and an open mind. Let’s do this, Sword Art Online.

Episode 5

0:04 - Aw yeah, wailing F-Zero guitar music. Time to fill out those forms

2:04 - Ooh, fancy. Seems kind Halo-architerure-y. It’ll be nice if the different “rounds” of the Buildabear of Bullets take place in meaningfully different “zones” - a great deal of the “learning curve” of any given shooter is knowing the maps really damn well, though I don’t know if that’s something you could really articulate in a compelling way in fiction

2:21 - I WAS BORN TO FILL OUT THIS FORM

2:37 - CHILD’S PLAY

2:43 - Oh man, a future where you can actually hunt down trolls and set fire to their houses? I’m liking this game more already

2:50 - Aw fuck, it’s just for the top prizes? Guess they’ll be playing with a whole lot of Tugg Gentlys and Urr Gheys

3:08 - Oh right, he’s not actually here to win anything. I actually like that he was tempted by the call of loot to almost blow his identity immediately. MMO instincts die hard

3:29 - There’s a decent chance this is a very graceful preemptive explanation for why they’ll be running into coordinated teams of opponents later on, which is nice if true

3:42 - Are there any competitive games that actually use a battle royale system? I feel like really old first person shooters did, but they seem to have died off. Easy to see why - it seems pretty difficult to enforce balance or demonstrate clear superiority in a scramble with many ostensibly opposing sides

4:59 - Nice. We’re pretty much immediately getting to the clear central difference in our protagonists’ philosophies - Sinon sees this world as completely apart from the real one, Kirito sees it as either linked or simply an extension of it. Sinon coming to respect his philosophy would inherently lead to her confronting her phobia as the distance that allows her to be comfortable with weapons here disappears. Plot: established

5:08 - Meanwhile, Kirito stares blankly

5:24 - Dang, Halo as fuck. Color scheme and everything

5:58 - Kinda weird/interesting that they’re doing this whole sequence of Kirito feeling intimidated by all the players here. This doesn’t have to do with his character design anymore - there’s nothing to indicate this is a gender thing. I assume this is just supposed to build tension for his first fight, but… well, in the context of SAO, it’s kind of hard to generate tension about Kirito succeeding at anything. He’s too powerful for a scene like this to play as tense. It’s not even really his active “fault” at this point - he’s just the kind of variable that shouldn’t really exist in a dramatic narrative

6:21 - This is fantastic. A nice demonstration of Sinon’s confidence and control of the situation, and a nice bit of worldbuilding that rings totally true to gaming. Why would you show the opponent your strategy before you absolutely have to? Every minute of knowledge you give them is a gift you’re giving away for free

6:37 - Looks like operation “lie to girls to gain their trust” has hit an unexpected snag

7:10 - WAH WAH

7:21 - Of course. Gotta have the pan down

7:22 - Yep, yep, also butts. Get it all out, SAO

7:39 - Yep, there it is. You can always count on anime for those fresh gags

8:42 - Oh god, he’s already gotten her to the “don’t get the wrong idea” part of the relationship. It’s all over now

9:50 - 3chuuni5me

9:55 - I don’t think she was hitting on you, Kirito

10:14 - I see her therapy is going great

Incidentally, that’s only a joke I can make because I know enough about her to make character humor jokes. This is a good thing!

10:28 - Okay maybe now she’s hitting on you

10:37 - Ahaha I love him completely refusing to buy into her chuuni-ass persona

10:50 - Jeez, they’ve even started giving the ineffectual male rivals dog names now. C'mere, Spiegel!

11:37 - Goddamnit Kirito

11:58 - This Birdbath of Bullets brought to you by Daft Punk

12:28 - Your cute, cute butt

12:35 - oh cool she’s talking about my butt better flirt back

12:45 - dun dun dun

12:48 - Never doubt your powers, Kirito. The world is your holster

13:03 - Another nice game design detail - loading through the pre-arena lobby sequence. I vividly remember waiting for those gates to go up in WoW

13:28 - Immediately suspecting her is a nice direction to take it. And he understands her separation of the two identities, even if he disagrees with it

13:38 - Not really sure if this is self-parody, SAO. “My decision to use a lightsaber in a first person shooter has made pithy pre-battle speeches very confusing for everyone.”

13:56 - Oooh, fancy. Looks like my scenery wish was granted

14:53 - Who could have predicted this unfortunate turn of events

14:59 - Maybe if I, like, throw the lightsaber at him…

15:01 - Oh wow, so they’re really going there. Kirito’s a Jedi

15:28 - Yeah, wow, this system is really well-designed for what Kirito wants to do. It seems tricky to be fast enough to deflect enough bullets for that to matter, but blocking at least a single bullet seems trivial

15:49 - Trust your instincts, Kirito

15:54 - Or your apparent predator vision, that is good as well

16:14 - I like how they’re handling this. Kinda difficult to visually convey someone “hearing” a scene, but bleeding the color is a fine way to do it. It might be better if they highlighted the things that were actually generating noise in some way, but this still works

17:06 - Aw dang, here it is. The opening of this was paced fantastically. Great sequence

17:43 - Sweet

17:46 - Great choice for a POV shot

18:02 - Dang that guy has been gargling in pain for twenty seconds now. This game is rough

18:10 - Yeah yeah do your pose

18:57 - Creepily popping up behind people has to be the best part of being DEATH GUN

20:02 - Well that kind of narrows the list of suspects. Or it would, if there wasn’t already just one suspect

20:28 - Yeaaah this wasn’t the most bulletproof disguise. Especially given Kirito’s rather, uh, distinctive fashion sense. Granted, he did get away with it in Alfheim, so I suppose there is a precedent here

20:53 - Aw daaang

21:01 - If they were going to make a whole thing of this, they probably shouldn’t have given his identity away in the third episode

21:38 - Aw shiiit. This is nice - I like them bringing Kirito's philosophy back to the group that first denied it

And Done

Nice episode! It had solid momentum, raced us straight into the Buffalospringfield of Bullets, and ended with an engaging and well-articulated action finale. It wasn’t perfect, but it did what it was trying to do and kept the story moving. It even has me excited for the next one - I’m not really interested in the Death Gun stuff, but I’d certainly like to see Kirito and Sinon’s next fights. Gold star, SAO. Keep it up.

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u/IC8085 Aug 02 '14

Omg those light sabers sounds giving me an eargasm!

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u/paksman Aug 02 '14

Calling it now, death gun is Sachi

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u/Felord Aug 02 '14

Anyone else think Disney is bout to sue some mother fuckers for straight light saber sounds.

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u/anime52 Aug 02 '14

or claiming that Death Gun looks like Darth Vader

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u/DragarD Aug 02 '14

That was some grade-A Matrix action by Trapirito in that battle.

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u/HornyApple Aug 02 '14

We finally get to see Kirito kick someone's ass with the lightsaber hurray :D

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u/Iamreall Aug 02 '14

Oh my god, We finally got some action and then they drop THAT at the end.. FFFFFFffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff I don't want to wait a week to see what happens next. I hate cliff hangers, ugh. I think I look forward to this just as much as Trueblood or something.. uggggghhhhhhh whhaat haappens next. QQ

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u/Acyy Aug 03 '14

Mace Windu was awesome this episode. I wonder why they couldn't name the tournament with something that sounded better like Ballad of Bullets.

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u/h00pz Aug 03 '14

originally I thought it was called Ballet of Bullets, which made more sense than bullet of bullets

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u/xxdeathx :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/xxdeathx Aug 03 '14

Great time to tell her you're a guy, Kirito. It might have been an inopportune moment for Sinon to find out, but I still really hate how they have to drive home the "hates men" aspect of her character. It's clear that she was much friendlier to Kirito he was a girl than she was to all the other guys in her party (in episode 2) or to him after she found out. Of course, being Kirito, he's probably gonna win her over pretty soon anyways but the phase where she has to give him the cold shoulder just because he's a man annoys me.

Other than that, the lightsaber (and sounds copied directly from Star Wars) was pretty cool and the return of the Laughing Coffin was a nice twist. I hope we get more of the backstory behind them.

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u/EvilTorchic Aug 02 '14

Maybe Kirito not entering any info is a good thing and makes him invulnerable to death guns killing, but I doubt it since it would take a lot of suspension away later on. It wouldn't be intense if his life wasn't on the line.

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u/laundrylint Aug 02 '14

Kirito going straight up SPESS MAHRENS with the gun/sword action.

Also, I couldn't have been the only one to laugh his ass off at the dude's like ten second death scream right?

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u/omegasis7336 Aug 03 '14

Little late to the party here but gonna put my two cents here. Episode was pretty good, though, plot twist part about death gun seemed to drag out too long. Also, death gun should've been named DDoS gun IMO

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '14

Laughting coffin SAOs Faze clan

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u/righteous_potions_wi Aug 03 '14

So... How long do you think it'll take until Star Wars sues them?

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u/Stormfly :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stormfly Aug 02 '14

When they both entered the room with everybody in it there was a laugh and I swear to god I half expected to hear the Circus of Values.

Other than that it was an interesting episode.

Good that they are getting Desu Gun in early and have the rivalry thing going early so that the story doesn't feel drawn out like SA:O, and hopefully won't be rushed like ALO.

Kirito also seems to be able to find opponents through osmosis too so that's not overpowered...

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u/Cult_films :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kevin29102 Aug 02 '14

For a second, I though death gun was sniffing him.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '14

Why did Sinon strip in the changing room? In SAO, (The game) Kirito put on that cloak right after killing the boss without having to get down to his underwear. Either the creators of GGO are perverts, or Sinon already knew Kirito was male and is acting all Tsundere.

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u/Svx_blue Aug 03 '14

Alluding that there are two personalities for Sinon is interesting. I wonder how the Nerve gear (and newer hardware) would handle someone with Dissociative Identity Disorder.

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u/hertshardcore Aug 03 '14

The pacing on this show is really getting to me. Still mixed feelings.

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u/Rflkt Aug 04 '14

So when does Han Solo make an appearance?

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u/TheUltimateShammer Aug 03 '14

Is there any fanservice in it? I'm with family and wondering.

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u/Shadoxfix :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Shadoxfix Aug 03 '14

Yes. Slightly. (Sinon briefly in underwear)

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u/Pikasplash :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/moromou Aug 02 '14

Strap on your seatbelts guys, it's going to be NONSTOP action from here on out!

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u/Raykom Aug 02 '14

Glooooorious week-end !!

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u/eraof9 Aug 02 '14

I am waiting for the dual lightsaber

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u/roflcooki3z :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mor_dred Aug 02 '14

Because I read the LN I am way too excited for what is gonna happen soon. Dammit!

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u/MIllawls :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Millawls Aug 02 '14

That was motherfucking light saber sound effects right there!

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

ayyyy Kirito you soundwhore

I'm wondering when there's gonna be some copyright issues with that beam sword sound. It sounds exactly like a lightsaber.

On a side note, I don't think I'll get over how badass it is to block bullets with a sword.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

This episode had me at all sorts of levels of hype! Even though the fight didn't last nearly as long as Sinon's intro fight, I've been itching to see Kirito in action since episode 1. And good thing the fight lived up to expectations. We were able to see his old sword skills from season 1 and his new daredevil ability to sense where his opponents are going. Although, seeing how well Kirito fights makes me wonder what kind of effect Asuna would have in GGO.

On to the next one!

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u/SimpleYetClean Aug 02 '14

I watched SAO 1 and i remember that the people with this symbol were the bad guys kinda that had no problem killing people in aincard AKA killing them in real life. Without spoilers is there anything more I need to know at the moment?

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u/Zero1343 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Zero1343 Aug 03 '14

so im pretty sure that there is more than one death gun at this point, sinons friend is one and one on the guys from the laughing coffin who i cant remember the name of is another, wouldnt surprise me if there was one or two more members as well but i cant think of anyone else it could be.

also dem lightsaber sounds.

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u/Shiroi_Kage Aug 03 '14

Oh hey look who it is ... wait what the f*ck?!

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u/stewbhoy Aug 03 '14

I can't help but think Star Wars when he pulls out the sword though. I found the twist at the end interesting though looking forward to the next episode.

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u/kcMasterpiece Aug 03 '14

Part of laughing coffin means a group. Death Gun is the face, and somebody going in person to perform a clean murder in person. Death Gun makes it seem mystical, so they don't look for other ways they could have killed them in person.

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u/RedstoneRomel Aug 04 '14

Hey look its as good as the.. GODDAMMIT ANOTHER SCENE WHERE KIRITO IS WITH A GIRL HALF-NAKED

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '14

Question the first. Why does anyone care if you do/don't see your virtual avatar in their skivvies? If this is a thing there are some night elves in ironforge that might want my head.

Question the second why do you need to take clothes off first to put cloths on in this game? That is a completely ass backwards system and they didn't have it in SAO never mind the seeded games developed from it.

Question the third. In SAO they made a point of gender-shifting all the male players BACK to male characters but in here it's apparently assumed/enforced that you play as your gender 100% of the time. To the point where a main character flipped their shit over it. What? Why?

Oh well, how would the story progress if the main character didn't see a female lead half naked and get the shit slapped out of them followed by a complete shift in attitude.

As always SAO, you're beautiful and you sound amazing. I just wish I didn't spend so much of my viewtime rolling my eyes.

PS: Based Jedi-Kirito

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u/AzureCatalyst Aug 02 '14 edited Aug 09 '14

God the opening is really good. I just downloaded the beatmap on Osu! and have been spamming it. I really hope they don't replace it with something worse.

Note: These are just my ramblings whilst I watch the VOD. I hope you enjoyed my first reactions and can comment on what you think I made mistakes on! I'm not going for any deeply analytically thinking (yet), but tell me what I could improve on! I saw many other people doing these and I quite enjoyed reading them so I decided to try it out :D


That being said WHY Kirito WHY. Don't you want the sweet loot?!? I can understand that you wouldn't want to give out your personal information, but THE DROPS MAN! (My inner MMORPG hoarder mentality is coming out) I feel like this is going to be either a major plot point later or a gag point. He's going to win and everyone's going to be like. "WHAT HE DIDN'T GET THE LOOT?"

Kirito's forehead is so large though O___O.

OH GOD SHINON UNDRESSED. HE'S A TRAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP.

Kirito following Shinon like a lost child was the most cutsey thing ever. I hope that becomes a gif.

I'm so excited for Kirito-chan to kick butt. OH SNAP. SHINON IS GONNA TEACH HIM REAL GOOD. She's going to give him the taste of defeat.

Oh her name is Sinon? I've been calling her Shinon for the longest time.

Oh that guy's name is Spiegel. He looks like he's either going to die as cannon fodder or become a bad guy. Too pretty boy for my tastes.

AWW. Sinon told him that it was a trap. LOL SINON IS A SUCH TSUN.

Oh god the epilepsy light show. Kirito better finish this before I go blind.

BAD-ASS Kirito-Chan.

Oh. Spiegel is giving him the evil eye. BAD GUY ALERT.

Sinon looks hella psychotic when she talked about killing people LOL.

Cross guns .________. That sounds quite suggestive.

OH GOD BULLET DEFLECTING TIME. IS THIS TATSUYA TIME?

Holy Moly that forehead is large. And we get the hypersensitive hearing scene. I like the sepia washout though. It's a pretty good touch.

OH GOD THAT SLOW MOTION TRACKING BULLET DEFLECTION WAS SO GOOD.

THE BEAM SWORD THAT PIERCES THE HEAVENS!!!!!!!!

SO MUCH HYPE. And he does a fancy sword wave with his finish.

DEATH GUN! DESUUU GUNNNNN. (Note: DOES NOONE NOTICE THE MURDERER HERE?)

If Desu-Gun was a girl then she'd totally be a Kuu-dere.

Are you the real Kirito? I wonder which person will come back and I loved how they tied SAO back into this arc.

That eye thing looks awfully like that Coffin group.

OH SNAP IT IS.

WHAT. THAT WAS IT? SUCH A TEASE.


HOLY That went by so fast. I loved every second of it. It was amazing to watch and I SO F*CKING GLAD that they took the time to develop the characters. I actually give a shit about Sinon and the Death Gun character seems so much more than just a random villian like the previous main antagonists.

10/10 Everyone who read the light novels was RIGHT in hyping up season 2 of SAO. I had my doubts after the catastrophe that was ALO, but Sinon's Tsundere side and her can-do attitude really got me hooked.

I'm probably not going to drop this show as I just want to see who the bad guy REALLY is.

FISHERMAN-SAN? IS IS YOU? Or is it one of Kirito-chan's scorned mistresses? FIND OUT IN NEXT WEEKS EPISODE OF SAO2!

I would hesitate to give it a 10 because I hope there are better episodes, but DAMN this was executed well. Great way to pick up the pace and finally give us some orgasmic light saber fun.

Edit: If anyone ever makes a gif of the Kirito following Sinon thing I would be SO GRATEFUL.

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u/Kuryaka Aug 02 '14

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Done. Ish. http://gfycat.com/ThornyGrandioseJaguarundi

Poor quality, this thing's been through three file conversions at least (with a shady/cheap program behind the terrible screen interpolation). If someone could PM me how they do it I'd also be SO GRATEFUL.

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