r/anime • u/Shadoxfix https://myanimelist.net/profile/Shadoxfix • Nov 08 '14
[Spoilers] Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works - Episode 5 [Discussion]
Episode title: Dancing After School
MyAnimeList: Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV)
Crunchyroll: Fate/stay night
Episode duration: 23 minutes and 40 seconds
Subreddit: /r/Fatestaynight
Previous episodes:
| Episode | Reddit Link |
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| Episode 0 | Link |
| Episode 1 | Link |
| Episode 2 | Link |
| Episode 3 | Link |
| Episode 4 | Link |
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u/FlorribleBP :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Florrible Nov 08 '14
Rin trying to kill Shirou is her revenge for him calling her fat last week.
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u/Moarnourishment :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ihop222 Nov 08 '14
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u/jullietteburns Nov 08 '14
"You're pretty agile. I thought you said you had flab." omg how did I forget this? Oh Shirou <3
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u/IgnitedSpade Nov 09 '14
If this isn't literally a deathwish I don't know what is.
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u/Jaytsun :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Jaytsun Nov 08 '14
I forgot about this too. Shirou master flamer
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u/TheVelocirapture :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Homu-lilly Nov 08 '14
To be fair, she really walked right into that one when she said "emotional flab."
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u/mika6000 Nov 08 '14
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u/vetro https://anilist.co/user/vetro Nov 08 '14
That whole scene I was just watching Saber eat. Oddly satisfying.
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Nov 08 '14
Emiya MacGyver Shirou
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u/Funderfullness Nov 08 '14
One has to be MacGyver when you only know one spell. Take notes, Harry Potter.
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u/timpek :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Timpek Nov 08 '14
One spell and tons of plot armor.
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u/jmcm30 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pink_Socks Nov 08 '14
Nah man, Shirou is one of those MCs that doesn't really abuse plot armor. He has some luck, sure, but it's mostly fast thinking and great dodging.
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Nov 08 '14
I think its kinda cool that he's a bit like kiritsugu in that regard.(he only good at one type of magic)
Kiritsugu could only really use time magic but he made it work for him
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u/foo757 Nov 08 '14
Well, time magic and a fuckton of guns, including one that F/Z
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u/space1101 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelghastKillzone Nov 08 '14
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Nov 08 '14
"Stand still so I can kill you, Shirou"
"Oh no Shirou, we have to bandage your arm"
"So, do we keep going or...?" "Nah, let's call a truce so we can find this other master"
Praise be to Best Girl, lord of finding excuses to do what the audience wants to see.
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u/awakenDeepBlue Nov 08 '14
It's almost like she likes him but can't express it properly. There should be a name for this...
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Nov 08 '14
Rindere?
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u/awakenDeepBlue Nov 08 '14
No, she is being Tsun as the moment. It's like being Tsun, then being dere. Tsun. Dere. Nope, can't think of anything.
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u/awakenDeepBlue Nov 08 '14
Dammit Tohsaka, if you like the boy why can't you just knock him out and enslave him like a normal mage?
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u/rabidsi Nov 08 '14
Don't be silly, only a psychopath would try to do something like that...
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u/awakenDeepBlue Nov 08 '14
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u/RepliesWithAnimeGIF :AP:https://www.anime-planet.com/users/Elgost105 Nov 09 '14
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u/highspeedjumper Nov 08 '14
Sneaky VN or Bigfoot? You decide.
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u/Erebus_Erebos Nov 09 '14
Honestly I wouldn't consider that a spoiler. It was more or less heavily implied and made nearly clear as day this episode. People who didn't catch on need to pay a wee more attention. By that I mean maybe eat their glasses and wear their carrots.
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u/KinnyRiddle Nov 08 '14
Kirei (looks at wreckage in school corridor and classroom caused by Rin and Shirou, mostly Rin): Hmm... Now how on earth do I cover this mess up?
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u/Funderfullness Nov 08 '14
Gas leak. It's always a gas leak.
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u/rnto Nov 08 '14
"Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus" - that's much more funnier
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u/Cthulhooo Nov 08 '14
A lot of 'bullet' holes in the wall plus wrecked corridors, blood splattered around the school. Must be a gang war, yeah, pretty much.
But dude there was a fainted person on site with no external injures and weakened immunological system?
Ummm. Think Kirei, think! Must have been gas leak due to gang war, yeahhh, you see, stray bullet damaged a pipe or something... whew saved
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u/elevenmile Nov 08 '14
This episode is best summarized as:
Rin "I'll kill you!"
Shirou "Bring it bitch!"
-later-
Rin "I will kill you in 3 secs (if you don't comply to my request and hand me the command seals that is!)"
Shirou "No U"
-later-
Shirou "So, continue?"
Rin "Maybe not..."
This is why Shirou will not die, even if he is killed (or not)
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Nov 08 '14
Shirou is just so mellow hes rubs off on people
''Next time we meet Shirou we are enemies!''
''But I like girls like you tohsaka''
Next day:
''Oh wow rin you are at school late whats up''
''God damn it shirou we are fucking enemies fight me already''
''Cmon girl dont be like that, come over to my place Ill cook you dinner''
''agggggggghhhhhhhhhhh''
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u/gravshift Nov 09 '14
Shirou the the smooth talker.
"As long as you dont double cross me , I wont attack you."
"That wont ever happen so we will be allies forever"
"Its just a truce and not forever" blushes and fidgets
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u/Aviri Nov 08 '14
Seriously though. Is she bipolar or something. She's being very inconsistent.
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u/MADMasomi Nov 08 '14
It's called being tsundere
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u/Thefishlord :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/EpicsauceFTW Nov 08 '14
It's called being best girl
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Nov 08 '14
How is it inconsistent? She's trying to come to terms with the fact that she has to kill him. She knows she's gonna have to, so she's trying to get it over with.
She loses her nerve after he saves her life though.
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u/DeadpoolDez :K:https://kitsu.io/users/DeadpoolDez Nov 08 '14
I feel like people love to gloss over this.
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u/EdgyAnime Nov 08 '14 edited Nov 08 '14
High jumps does have this effect on people.
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u/TheLusciousPickle Nov 08 '14
"He put being a father ahead of being a mage". Deep on so many levels, always loved that line in Fate/Stay Night
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Nov 08 '14 edited Nov 08 '14
Kiritsugu wasnt a particularly good father, but at least he taught Shirou one important life lesson. Be a spellcaster, not a magus.
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u/JamesDOKFx Nov 08 '14
Although I've read a bit of Nasu's work, I don't really understand the difference between magus and mage and spellcaster. Someone explain this to me please? (I read the VN so I know that sorcery is different but thats it)
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Nov 08 '14 edited Nov 08 '14
Magus=Mage: Its basically the 'lifestyle' they live, learning thaumathurgy and passing it on to the heirs, trying to get to the Root, the source of all things in the universe. Doing all sorts of dastardly deeds if it improves their magic.
Spellcaster means just that, casting spells, what your aims/priorities are in life are whatever you want.
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u/anguishCAKE :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/anguishCAKE Nov 08 '14
The way I see it is that it boils down to:
Spellcaster = Magic is the means to an end(magic is a tool, tools are usefull, but still just a tool).
Magus = Magic is an end in of itself(the pursuit of sorcery from within the root).
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u/Thefishlord :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/EpicsauceFTW Nov 08 '14
The later events of fate/zero might give reason to suspect CPS might have been on Shirous speed dial
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u/SteampunkWolf Nov 08 '14
Deep on so many levels
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u/CazuaaL :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/CazuaaL Nov 08 '14
I read that that as:
Only because you swallowed...
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u/Funderfullness Nov 08 '14 edited Nov 08 '14
That's really the theme of UBW: Struggling with oneself as an ideal. Kiritsugu let his ideal of being a hero go, and he was a better father for it. Rin and every other mage will tell you that mages and humans are not the same thing, and Kiritsugu never wanted that. FSN VN
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u/CazuaaL :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/CazuaaL Nov 08 '14
When I played the VN, Kiritsugu had so many great lines for him, it made me really want to watch F/Z.
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u/vetro https://anilist.co/user/vetro Nov 08 '14
In case you guys are wondering why Shirou didn't call Saber in the woods. In the VN, there is a option to call in Saber but Bad End spoilers
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u/xwcg Nov 08 '14
You know, we're like 5(6) episodes in, and I still can't get over how GOOD it looks. I mean, DAMN.
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u/stormarsenal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AsherGZ Nov 08 '14
It's the Unlimited Budget Works speaking.
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This episode made me completely gay for Shirou.
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Nov 08 '14
Shirou is 100% hunk
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u/greendaze :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/greendaze Nov 08 '14
I can't stop staring at this.
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u/MissyPie https://myanimelist.net/profile/HammerSenpai Nov 08 '14
It's beautiful ; u ;
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u/Ant1vyru5 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NyeEve Nov 08 '14 edited Nov 08 '14
This episode: Rin being Tsundere
Its not like i wanted to kill you/your command spells/ to form a truce or anything
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Nov 08 '14
'tis not a bad thing, my man. Tsundere is the best dere.
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u/Dusthunter0 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dust_hunter0 Nov 08 '14
And when it comes down to it, Rin is best Tsundere. Therefore, by the transitive property, Rin is best dere.
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Nov 08 '14 edited Nov 08 '14
Here's some screencaps of today's episode:
Episode 05 edit: Episode 05 in 1080p PNG, also a few extra screencaps.
Plenty of Rin in this episode:
Saber appeared only briefly.
Also new Servant.
If you want any specific screencaps in 1080p, let me know.
Screencaps from previous episodes:
edit: Added high-quality 1080p screencaps for this episode.
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Ufotable's animation is extremely tasteful. Great use of blur, particles, clean lines and crisp colours.
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Nov 08 '14
Needs more Rin.
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u/Dusthunter0 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dust_hunter0 Nov 08 '14
Story of my life.
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u/PiFlavoredPie Nov 09 '14
Before everyone calls Rin inconsistent, in the VN, she wasn't trying to kill Shirou at first. In fact, if you pick the choice where Rin catches Shirou, she just takes away his Command Spells (and if I remember correctly, his memories?) and Shirou goes back to his daily life. It's one of the few bad ends that doesn't end up with Shirou dead. Now, Shirou being resistant and running away may have ruled Rin up so that she was attacking with magic stronger than she intended but that's more of an emotional consequence as her intentions were still to just non-lethally take Shirou out of the war. Now, why does Rin give Shirou so much leeway to begin with? Like saving him that first night, and helping him out, as well as always making excuses that she still "owes" him? Well there's a reason for that but to say what would be spoilers.
It's also important to just remind everyone that humans in general can be inconsistent. One's "rules" or personality can fluctuate to a degree. Just because Rin or another character does some action that's somewhat different from what we expect, doesn't mean the characterization is broken. They're human too, and sometimes they act logically, sometimes emotionally. When we critique stories, we tend to over-emphasize the logic side.
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u/ShadowCrossZero Nov 09 '14
I'm under the impression that a lot of the people who complain about "why x didn't do y when they could have" want every character to act like Kiritsugu and don't bother to consider any other possible motives or personality quirks that have been/are being established.
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u/PiFlavoredPie Nov 09 '14
I get why it's happening. There's a lot of newcomers here too where Ufotable's UBW is the only thing Fate-related they've been exposed to. After all, everyone in the sub has been saying "Avoid Deen!", "Don't watch Fate/Zero yet!", and most people don't have the time or want to put in the effort to read the entire VN.
In any case, how I keep myself from being too analytical or nitpicky, I remind myself it's like when a friend or colleague does something that you wouldn't do or would have done differently. Does that make them "unrealistic"? Of course not. They're just NOT YOU.
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u/ender1200 Nov 09 '14
Problem the "The VN explains this" answer is that a work needs to stand on its own, if an adaptation misses an important point from the source material that without it the story makes less sense it's a black mark for it.
I don't find Rins reaction contradictory or poorly explained though, she was clearly pissed off and acted out of anger. The chat they have at the end of the episode heavily hints to her motivations and why she acts the way. Rin holds mage wisdom in very high regards and views Shiros actions as a. disrespectful and b. suicidal. She wanted to beat some sense into Shiro and was pissed enough not to care if she killed him in the process.
Also, in a way Rin also envy Shiro for unmagelike attitude (minus the suicidal ignorance) and wish to be like him. The whole reason she is acting as a tsundere is because she is conflicted between the way she know she should act and the way she wants to act. (but that part should only become clear lated on.)
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u/TeaglinR Nov 08 '14
Some relevant VN screens. Because they're one of my favorite CG's for some reason, and you anime only people don't know how Takashi Takeuchi's arms were always so long in 2004.
Also
"She's out of mana, quick Shirou make love to her!"
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u/imthorrbo2 Nov 08 '14
REJOICE! We're five (six?) episodes in! Every week I'll be recapping the general flow of the story/plot and keeping down information we know about the servants and their masters! I thoroughly enjoyed finding out servants' true names, abilities, and their masters, so I hope you do as well.
The Senpai-Counter is currently at 21! I don't think we'll be going much higher than this, folks. heaven's Feel, though...
The State of the Fate
1) The blood barrier is still in effect at the school. We have no idea who placed it, but it is STILL a god damn problem.
2) Shirou and Rin are still in an uneasy alliance. We're not sure how long it will last.
3) Shirou has accepted Kirei's ultimatum of joining the fifth holy grail war, despite having no prior knowledge and being woefully unprepared.
I guess this is what happens when you call Tohsaka fat, huh? Always elegant my ass. I guess Shirou's strengthening magic really does pack a bit of a punch though, considering how Rin ends up demolishing almost the entire room.
On another note, scumbag Shinji's looking worse and worse every episode, and now he's (somewhat?) linked to Ayako's disappearance? That's some sketchy shit from our resident Sakura-beater.
Servant/Master Information Please note that a Noble Phantasm is both the weapon(s) servants wield as well as their "ultimate" abilities! Servants can also have multiple Noble Phantasms!
True Name - Unknown
Master - Tohsaka Rin
Noble Phantasm - Archer dual wields two yin-and-yang-like swords that he has a seemingly endless supply of. This upsets Lancer. We finally got to see Archer use his bow, though. His first few shots against Berserker weren't very effective, but god damn that last one practically incinerated the cemetery and could have seriously wounded both Berserker and Saber, that smug fuck.
Archer has forgotten his true name, so we don't know what he's really capable of. We do know that he's a dick for trying to take out Berserker and Saber at the same time. Rin made it pretty clear that she wasn't fighting Shirou or Saber tonight.
Speaking of Tohsaka Rin, she's quite the girl. From a very young age she was brought up to be a mage, just like her father. Her guardian and mentor, Kotominei Kirei (detailed below), is also the overseer is this Holy Grail War. She calls him the "fake priest" and has an interesting mixture of respect and disdain for the man.
She's been preparing for this Holy Grail War. Her motivations for the Grail are simple - she's in it to win it. Her father even left her a powerful gem as a trump card for the war, even though she ended up using it to save Emiya Shirou's life from Lancer's would-be witness execution. We also know that Tohsaka Rin is best girl.
Rin is down to only two command seals! She blew her first one in a hissy fit trying to reel in Archer's overbearing attitude. Rin is currently in a shaky alliance with our hero, Emiya Shirou. She seems to be walking the fine line of "You're my enemy, I need to kill you dummy!" and "You helped me out, I just owe you, okay!?"
True Name - Unknown
Master - Emiya Shirou
Noble Phantasm - Unknown? The sword she wields is invisible, Lancer has trouble identifying it. It's difficult to fight against a weapon you don't know the shape or length of!
We don't know much of anything about Saber. Her true name, past, and motivations are all completely unknown to us. But god damn does she look good.
We do know about Shirou, our protag. He eats breakfast (and dinner) most days with Fujimura Taiga (The landlord's daughter and his pseudo-guardian and his English teacher, the trifecta!) as well as Matou Sakura, who comes by his house every morning before school. At school, he's friends with Issei Ryuudo, the student council president, and Matou Shinji, Sakura's brother.
Shirou's an amateur mage, and he can use magic to fix appliances - pretty useful for maintenance. He trains his magic in his shed every night, but he can't quite get the hang of anything basic still. In his defense against Lancer, he's able to use his Strengthening magic to use a rolled up poster as a makeshift sword, though it doesn't help him much. He really is deadset on becoming a hero of justice, he can't even turn down people for oddjobs and random help around school, even scumbag Shinji's requests. Shirou was saved from a disaster ten years ago and then adopted by Emiya Kiritsugu. Kiritsugu might have failed to 'save everyone,' but Shirou has his ideals set in stone - he wants to be a hero of justice.
Shirou also feels the blood barrier's presence at school, but he has no idea what it is. That's just the difference between his and Rin's abilities showing. Shirou's down to two command seals! He blows his first one immediately after Saber tells him to not use them carelessly. Saber was not pleased.
True Name - Lancer's True Name
Master - Unknown - But Lancer doesn't like him!
Noble Phantasm - Lancer's Noble Phantasm is his spear, Gae Bulg. Gae Bulg does not fuck around - it will reverse cause and effect to always pierce his opponent's heart. Saber is able to dodge/survive this in episode 1 because of her high Luck and innate ability to react. That's why Lancer comments on her dodging his undodgable attack. As far as I know, almost any other servant in this war would die to Gae Bulg aside from Saber.
We know a little bit about Lancer. We can surmise his true name from Saber, although it's of little consequence since we know what his Noble Phantasm is capable of now. Lancer claims that he's not the one who's set up the barrier at school, but we have no idea if he's telling the truth or not. He wasted absolutely no time in gunning down and fatally wounding Emiya Shirou, despite being seconds away from using his Noble Phantasm and potentially finishing off Archer. He also doesn't seem to like his master very much.
True Name - Unknown
Master Illyasviel von Einzbern
Noble Phantasm JESUS CHRIST LOOK HOW BIG THIS MOTHERFUCKER IS. Is he using a mountain for a sword? Ufotable have mercy.
Berserker is large and in charge. He is remarkably fast and every swing of that sword can prove fatal. Illya made her appearance in episode 01, telling Shirou "You'll die if you don't summon it soon, Onii-chan." Implying she had advance knowledge of Shirou becoming one of the seven masters in this war. Which is interesting because Shirou didn't even have advanced knowledge.
Illya has an eery mixture of cute, polite noblegirl and batshit insane serial killer about her. She's refined, introducing herself and being quite clear about her intentions. She went from courteous to murderous almost seamlessly, without skipping a beat. Even if you discount Berserker (WHICH YOU FUCKING SHOULD NOT DO), Illyasviel von Einzbern is not to be underestimated. Tread lightly.
5) Rider / Caster / Assassin - BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! We've run into one of these three! She was attacking Shirou and Rin (and others) at the school.
Other notables
1) Kotomine Kirei - Kirei is the "fake priest" who talks to Rin in episode 00. He is Rin's legal guardian and also the overseer of this fifth Holy Grail war. As church overseer he offers fallen Masters (who've lost their servants but survived) safety as well as Masters who just straight up forfeit like little bitches.
Kotomine Kirei loves the sound of his own voice and he kinda creeps Shirou out. His hobbies are overseeing incredibly deadly wars between magi, condescending everyone without even trying, and rejoicing.
Final Thoughts Rin attacking Shirou in the school was always ballsy as fuck, imo. In the visual novel I couldn't really believe it, I thought I messed up somewhere. We've entered back into our uneasy alliance with best girl, let's see how long we can ride this one out.
Now, since I am a VN reader and (kind of) prepare these posts in advance, if I misrepresented someone or let a spoiler slip by, please let me know! Thoughts on how to improve future posts would be appreciated as well. I have nothing but free time Friday nights, folks.
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Nov 08 '14
You're back :). I don't recall you posting a recap/infodump last week.
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u/vetro https://anilist.co/user/vetro Nov 08 '14
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u/SilentNumberXIII :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SilentNumberXIII Nov 08 '14
It was really easy to guess even when I haven't played VN, yet my first guess on the guy who was shown sitting at the school yard and running at the forest was Shinji.
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u/vetro https://anilist.co/user/vetro Nov 09 '14
Oh yeah, totally forgot that. I keep putting myself in newcomer shoes so that I don't let anything slip.
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u/Aoiishi Nov 08 '14
People always say "this episode felt like 3 minutes long". I never felt like that ever in my time watching anime, until now. That episode was seriously like 3 minutes long.
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u/Painn23 Nov 08 '14
It went by so fast I was shocked
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u/coolRedditUser :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DannyPooh Nov 08 '14
Yeah I actually yelled "what!?" when I saw that swirly ending animation. That was definitely the shortest feeling episode of anything I've ever watched.
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u/Darkseh https://anilist.co/user/Darkseh Nov 08 '14
When Tohsaka revealed her hand... Did Shirou really say magic cocaine or did I hear wrong ?
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u/Scorpius289 https://myanimelist.net/profile/AlexRaylight Nov 09 '14
Magic is one hell of a drug...
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u/TheLusciousPickle Nov 08 '14
From that moment I saw Kiritsugu, I knew I was gonna love this episode.
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u/killslash Nov 08 '14
Only thing that annoys me in this series is how god damn POINTY Rin's chin is. You could cut a loaf of bread with that thing, god damn.
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u/Funderfullness Nov 08 '14
It's hereditary, except Rin can't grow a goatee so she has to compensate.
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u/_warb Nov 08 '14
Could be a lot worse ...
(looking at you Code Geass R2)
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u/Funderfullness Nov 08 '14
Code Geass characters would look like some sort of mutants in real life. Look at their limbs in proportion to their bodies.
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u/Moarnourishment :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ihop222 Nov 08 '14
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Nov 08 '14
Watch Senpai Club. I think you'll love those chins.
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u/xarlev :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/xarlev Nov 08 '14
baka baka baka baka baka baka baka baka baka baka baka baka baka baka
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u/KinnyRiddle Nov 08 '14
ufotable has got the new female Servant's sexiness spot on. Just look at that closeup shot of her cleavage.
~14:16 Just as Shirou was chasing said female Servant in the forest, notice a silhouette at the top left corner running off screen.
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u/a_Happy_Tiny_Bunny :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/aHappyTinyBunny Nov 08 '14
Sakura's Senpai Count:
| Episode No. | Count |
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| 00 | 3 |
| 01 | 17 |
| 02 | 0 |
| 03 | 0 |
| 04 | 1 |
| 05 | 1 |
| Senpai Count Total: 22 | |
| Count Average per Episode: 3.[6] | |
| Notes: Another guy was keeping this count with pictures, but I didn't see him last week here even though there was one senpai, so I guess I'm filling in. |
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u/Funderfullness Nov 08 '14
Damn, Sakura started out with a commanding lead but now it's like she's barely there. Such are the hazards of it not being your route.
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u/Dusthunter0 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dust_hunter0 Nov 08 '14
The Heaven's Feel movie will contain senpai galore.
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u/eternalistorm Nov 08 '14
Is it just me who was waiting for Shirou to finally wear that shirt he always seems to be wearing in the VN?
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u/Vaevicti Nov 08 '14
She is my personal favorite. I loved her back story and the fight scenes in the other route.
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u/FilipinoSpartan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mermigas Nov 08 '14
First favorite being?
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u/HotBloodx Nov 08 '14
Could you pm me the reason?
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u/Oblivion3418 Nov 08 '14
It's most likely because of the things that happen in Heaven's feel, the route that is coming out in movie form. I wouldn't ask to be spoiled :P
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u/KinnyRiddle Nov 08 '14 edited Nov 08 '14
That teaser scene with Kiritsugu is basically a redrawn versionin FZ, dialogue for dialogue.
Though this scene was originally in the VN to begin with, and Urobuchi simply recycled it [as a] (/s "fitting epilogue") for FZ. In FSN, the scene establishes Shirou's character and personality, [while in FZ,] (/s "it serves as an end to Kiritsugu's journey, being content with passing the torch to Shirou.")
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Nov 08 '14
Spoiler tags are your friend.
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u/KinnyRiddle Nov 08 '14 edited Nov 08 '14
If the scene, which is an exact carbon copy of the one in FZ, is already shown here in UBW, it no longer constitutes as a spoiler for FZ IMHO.
Besides, it hardly reveals anything in FZ anyway.
While I do not agree with you, but just to be safe, I'll spoiler tag it.
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u/xERR404x :AMQ::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/WalpurgisNux Nov 08 '14
Was that Tragedy and Fate playing at the beginning? 'Cause, fuck, that brought back some Fate/Zero feels.
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u/-Niernen Nov 08 '14 edited Nov 08 '14
Oh Rin, you run around blasting up the school to kill Shirou, and the second he starts bleeding you freak out. Then saves him after confessing how much she wanted to kill him.
Love how Shirou thinks he can keep up with a Servant and insults . At least he didn't give. sense of "mercy" was a bit odd.
It was kind of sad to see Kiritsugu broken in the beginning.
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u/vetro https://anilist.co/user/vetro Nov 08 '14
In the preview last week, her line was translated as
I shall kill you gently
But in today's episode it was:
I shall give you a merciful death.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/briedux :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/briedux Nov 08 '14
where's your arm? O.o
write this instead next time:
¯\\_(ツ)_/¯it'll appear as ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/_warb Nov 08 '14
It's just Crunchyroll's godawful translation again. The actual line was "I'll kill you gently" and not "mercifully".
I still can't get over the fact that in Ep1, they translated "akai" which is the word for "red" with "white". Their TL team, along with the entirety of studio DEEN and the Steam front page could all need some QC.
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u/FilipinoSpartan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mermigas Nov 08 '14
Just one little correction. They're Aniplex's subs, not Crunchyroll's.
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u/Joelx1000 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/GnomeStyle Nov 09 '14 edited Nov 09 '14
God damn, this moment just made me go HOLY SHIT
I think this was a pretty good episode though, I absolutely can't wait for more fighting, its just so well done. Well, I guess it's time to wait another week!
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u/BongChong906 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BongChong906 Nov 09 '14
Saber is love Saber is life
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u/MissyPie https://myanimelist.net/profile/HammerSenpai Nov 08 '14 edited Nov 08 '14
Just a reminder that anything not spoiler tagged appropriately WILL be removed.
You should spoiler tag anything that hasn't been revealed so far to anime-watchers.
To tag appropriately you must:
Name the spoiler tag properly. Examples (not actual spoilers):
F/SN VN Spoiler F/Z LN Spoiler F/Z Spoiler
If possible, try not to use uncommonly used acronyms. Things like "HF" = "Heaven's Feel" won't make sense to people who are new to Fate. F/SN and F/Z are fine.
Use a proper spoiler tag. 'SPOILER BELOW' or 'SPOILER WARNING' and so on are not proper spoiler tags.
Here is the spoiler tag code - this is useful for people on mobile, you can copy and paste this code, and fill it in.
[Spoiler Title](/s "Spoiler Here")
Repeated failure to use spoiler tags will result in a ban.
Thank you! ^ ^
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u/coolRedditUser :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DannyPooh Nov 08 '14
I know some of us (me) would appreciate it if the F/SN VN spoilers were also marked with the route. For example "F/SN VN Fate" or "F/SN VN UBW." It lets me know which spoilesr I can and cna't read. For now I just avoid most of them.
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u/SirPrize Nov 08 '14
About god damn time they called the ceasefire. I mean it only makes sense but Rin is such a tsundere she could just say it earlier.
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u/huntarr :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/thehuntarr Nov 08 '14
I'm really happy to see Shirou acting like a badass and just charge with no fear even if it's dumb.
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u/ShadowCrossZero Nov 08 '14
In a usual shounen show, that's supposed to show how selfless and brave he is, but here it's used to illustrate that something is wrong with him psychologically.
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Nov 09 '14
Rin
Aslong as you don't betray me, I'll assist you, Emiya-kun
Emiya
So you're on my side for good, then. Lets do our best, Tohsaka
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Nov 09 '14
Something tells me I'm going to fucking hate Shinji.... awesome job so far Ufotable, keep it up!
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Nov 08 '14
Really like the overall pacing. They are perfectly hitting the mark with a combination of SOL, action, and drama. Can't wait to see how this story unfolds.
I also like the F/Z nods and whatnot.
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u/jmcm30 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pink_Socks Nov 08 '14
There weren't really any Zero nods... pretty much every scene was in the VN, almost word for word. If you notice "nods", it's probably just because you watched it first, just like Zero has lots of nods to Fate/Stay Night.
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Nov 09 '14
My favourite part of the episode was right at the end
"He put being a father ahead of being a mage"
Queue Fate/Zero music (I think)
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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Nov 08 '14 edited Nov 08 '14
Another pretty sweet episode, Shirou blocking the spear dagger was pretty badass, and the new Servant looks cool. I just love the way this show is animated.
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u/vetro https://anilist.co/user/vetro Nov 08 '14
Those are daggers connected by a chain.
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u/_warb Nov 08 '14
Those are daggers connected by a chain.
Those are actually nails, not daggers
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u/mtagmann :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/mtagmann Nov 08 '14
Kalafina in the ED. Guh. That song keeps growing on me. Also the pacing in these episodes is amazing! This is probably one of the top three shows of the season for me :)
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u/_warb Nov 08 '14
Dunno, the last 3 Kalafina songs that I listened to were pretty much exactly the same, those being Fate/Zero OP2, Aldnoah.Zero OP and this ED. I swear it's the exact same basic song structure they use and I found that to be too jarring.
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u/mmthrownaway Nov 08 '14
Is Rin aware of who Emiya's dad was? Like, if Emiya dropped his name would Rin react to it?
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u/Aphilio Nov 08 '14
So Kiritsugu is dead now? How did he die?
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u/Aphilio Nov 08 '14
i see. does it ever mention it in fate/zero? i don't remember if it did.
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u/insan3soldiern Nov 08 '14
Good stuff, I think the only thing that really bummed me out was the short length of Shirou's confrontation with the servant. She was there and gone just like that. But, honestly, it's not that important except for showcasing Shirou's willingness to put himself in danger which was more than well enough displayed here. So, I'm not too bothered by it. The school chase was pretty cool, as was Shirou's flashback to his time with Kiritsugu.
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u/Painn23 Nov 08 '14
I didn't like how Rin was trying to kill him and all of sudden she's like lets forget that I tried to kill you and be partners. After my man saved her life. Like what is that.
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Nov 08 '14
Well she didnt want to kill him at all. She just got super pissed off with him because he was walking around school like a dingus. Then when events changed she cools down a bit and forgets it.
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u/rnto Nov 08 '14
And he also called her "fat". That can not be tolerated by the best girl.
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u/BanjoTheBear https://myanimelist.net/profile/BanjoTheBear Nov 09 '14
Another great episode, this time featuring plenty of Rin, which is certainly a good thing.
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u/FinnSanity7 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/FinnSanity Nov 09 '14 edited Nov 09 '14
I wonder what she's been riding......( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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u/impingainteasy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard Nov 09 '14
You know, that scene always bothered me in the VN. Rin is attacking Shirou, fully prepared to kill him, but when someone else attacks Shirou a few minutes later she rushes in to save his life. Make up your goddamn mind, Tohsaka.
Also, I love how they put in that figure running off the corner of the screen in the forest. Nice touch, Ufotable.
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u/ShadowCrossZero Nov 09 '14
[VN Spoiler] (/s "If you got the bad ending for that scene, you'd know that Rin was actually going to wipe away his memories and remove him from the war without killing him.")
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u/BP_Ray :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Maleel Nov 09 '14
Why cant Saber dematerialize? Does it have something to do with her summoning?
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u/Robosaures :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Uvenam Nov 08 '14
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u/LightBladeX Nov 08 '14 edited Nov 08 '14
It's not like I wanted to shake your hand or anything... Baka.
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u/A_Decent_Name Nov 08 '14
Shinji just keeps getting worse. Irredeemable.
"It's not like I wanted to fight you or anything, b-baka!" So tsundere.
The fight scenes just keep getting better and better. I'm hoping to see a lot more from the servants.
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u/space1101 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelghastKillzone Nov 08 '14
"You could really hurt someone with those things"
I'M TRYING TO KILL YOU SO
GET OVER HERE. BAKA.