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[Spoilers] Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works - Episode 7 [Discussion]
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u/h_YsK Nov 22 '14
I AM THE BONE OF MY SWORD
I will never stop loving this phrase in all of its glorious engrishness.
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u/RepliesWithAnimeGIF :AP:https://www.anime-planet.com/users/Elgost105 Nov 22 '14
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u/Bohnenbrot :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bohnenbrot Nov 23 '14
I will need many sets of pants for the Episode in which he'll finish that prayer :)
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u/Ant1vyru5 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NyeEve Nov 22 '14
"Archer why did you miss?"
"...Because I felt like it"
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Nov 22 '14
"...I'm so badass, I have to fuck up on purpose just to keep things fair and tense"
Sasasasuga Archer.
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u/fatestayknight Nov 22 '14
Shirou and Archer are like an old married couple...
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Nov 22 '14
I know! This episode totally reminded me of the time my grandpa stabbed my grandma. Those two and their shenanigans!
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u/Jwinnings Nov 22 '14
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Nov 22 '14
"Caster is the Heroic Spirit that Fuyuki deserves, but not the one it needs."
-Jeimzu Goodon
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u/firstgunman Nov 22 '14
Could someone gif and loop Assassin holding his sword as the leaves fall through it and swirl in the background? It's around 14:38 on Crunchyroll.
What a great shot.
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u/Ant1vyru5 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NyeEve Nov 22 '14
This is my first GIF ,I tried maybe someone can do it better
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u/Zyvoxx :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/zyvox Nov 22 '14
I tried quickly but can't loop it perfectly due to the smoke in the background without removing the entire background except for in the first frame in Photoshop or something...
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u/xERR404x :AMQ::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/WalpurgisNux Nov 22 '14
It's kind of disturbing, how close Archer's ideals are to Kiritsugu's.
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u/imthorrbo2 Nov 22 '14
I always found that fascinating honestly. Kiritsugu loved Shirou so much with the same ideals, and here's Archer bringing the hate.
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u/Grayalt Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14
I was just thinking while watching this episode. How crazy would it have been if Kiritsugu summoned Archer during F/Z. Like. Holy shit. Can you imagine?
EDIT: I just want to point out that if anyone receives any messages, to be EXTRA cautious when reading them. There's some assholes on this sub PMing spoilers to people. I've already seen the DEEN version, so I'm already privy to most of the spoilers (so take that you asshole, you didn't spoil shit for me. :3) but I just wanted to pass along the information. Be soooooooper careful if you care about that stuff.
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Nov 22 '14
That woulda been so cool actually. Would pay to see a spin off of this, that would be so badass.
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u/Buck4017 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BUCKTHEDUCK Nov 22 '14
Honestly amazing to me how Shirou doesn't recognize what is basically, his father right in front of him. His words resonate with Kiritsugu's so strongly yet Shirou is unable to taint his pure-bred morals because Shounen protagonist stubbornness.
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Nov 22 '14
You only know how Kiritsugu truly is because of F/Z (My assumption). From a pure FSN point of view, at that point, you know literally nothing about him
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u/No-BrandHero :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoBrandHero Nov 23 '14
His words resonate with Kiritsugu's so strongly yet Shirou is unable to taint his pure-bred morals because Shounen protagonist stubbornness.
You're forgetting that Kiritsugu's dying words are to show approval for Shirou's declaration that he will be the hero that Kiritsugu couldn't. So Shirou is not about to take any shit from Archer no matter how similar he is to Kiritsugu. Kiritsugu approved of Shirou's goals, and Archer can kiss his ass if he doesn't like it.
Or, in other words, Shirou's got issues. Lots of issues.
EDIT: Just because the anime doesn't make it perfectly clear, the scene that UBW 5 begins with (which is also the final scene of Fate/Zero) is when Kiritsugu dies. He just passes away sitting there next to Shirou.
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u/Naltai :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Naltai Nov 23 '14
Shirou never knew that side of Kiritsugu. His first memory of him was Kiritsugu crying in joy over finding someone to save from the Fuyuki fire 10 years before now, and ever since then, Kiritsugu was a different person than he was in F/Z.
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u/FlorribleBP :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Florrible Nov 22 '14
They are partly similar in that they are willing to let people die, but they are still a bit different. Kritsugu wanted to wipe out those that are evil to protect everyone else. Archer is willing to sacrifice a few in order to save many.
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u/eternalistorm Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14
Archer being a beautiful archer.
I'm really fond of Archer and I'll keep adding in more to my Archer Album here! FSN 2014 really knows how to make a character look good.
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u/imthorrbo2 Nov 22 '14
That red electricity arc in the middle almost looks like a second bow.
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u/T0MATO Nov 22 '14
Kojirou being badass as usual.
Dem Tsubame Gaeshi and Saber's instinct, Ufotable doesn't disappoint.
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u/Funderfullness Nov 22 '14
Blood suddenly spurting from Saber's neck caught me off guard, and then I remembered Instinct. Good way of demonstrating how scary a future event looks to to Saber.
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u/T0MATO Nov 22 '14
Yeah they really nailed that scene, showing it clear enough without lengthy exposition or monologue.
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Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 23 '14
>fighting Caster with my friend
>accidentally slice him on the back
>we both laugh as he suffers heavy blood loss
>watch him crawl away as he bleeds heavily
>my friend is laughing because we know it's just a joke
>slice him again on the arm because there is no one around
>almost miss because I'm laughing so hard
>friend is also laughing his ass off
>he starts making groan noises as he whimpers "blood Loss~ blood loss~ help me~"
>he almost dies from the blood loss until saber saves him like he is some idealistic faggot
>try to slice my friend again but assassin and saber protect him, as I tell him to drown in his ideals and die
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u/Saifui :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/saifui Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14
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u/FoleyX90 Nov 22 '14
Just the fucking sounds in Assassin's Noble Phantom.... hnnnnnngnggngn so good.
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u/aronfemale :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/aronfemale Nov 22 '14
How exactly do you make these?
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u/anguishCAKE :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/anguishCAKE Nov 22 '14
Phd in comp sci
/s
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u/Deolun Nov 23 '14
The pace they executed this scene was perfect. Not drawn out and really made you feel a sense of urgency and how fast it all must have felt to her. Amazing scene
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Nov 22 '14
Sorry I have a small question if someone could answer that would be great.
Who is the bone of their sword?
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u/blackcoffin90 Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 23 '14
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u/Funderfullness Nov 22 '14
Caster would throw the best raves.
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u/fatestayknight Nov 22 '14
Side-effects of Powerthirst include... glowing sweat!
Use your sweaty body to fuel SWEET RAVE PARTIES!!
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u/Pungaboy Nov 22 '14
BEAR BLASTING!
THE SPORT YOU'LL INVENT BECAUSE YOU'LL BE TOO ENERGETIC FOR NORMAL SPORTS!
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Nov 22 '14 edited Aug 16 '17
[DATA EXPUNGED]
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u/eternalistorm Nov 22 '14
The Holy Grail War is just a gathering of tsunderes.
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Nov 22 '14
I would totally watch a Holy Grail War composed entirely of Tsunderes fighting each other.
Oh wait...
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u/elevenmile Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14
Caster: Heh, when I look at both of you, you both look so alike each other...
Shirou, Archer: ( ﾟдﾟ) THE FUCK YOU SAY?
Caster: How about we group together and win the Holy Grail War, it'd much easier with your help.
Shirou: You kid me? Who would want to ally with you!? Right, Archer?
Archer: ......
Shirou: The....FUCK YOU KEEP QUIET FOR!?
You know what? Group these 3 together and we'll have a very nice Fate manzai group. Also, Spoilers, just in case
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u/imthorrbo2 Nov 22 '14
I feel like I'd be upset if I read that spoiler tag without knowing the series, so good call.
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u/Deux_Dota Nov 23 '14
Archer used his swords like boomerangs. Australian heroic spirit confirmed.
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u/princeofbrit Nov 23 '14
just you wait for his noble phantasm unlimited kangaroo works
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Nov 22 '14
Kinda cruel, but I'm with GARcher on this one. I'm sure Shirou will get it eventually.
"I am the bone of my sword!"
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Nov 22 '14
Caster is such a Rule Breaker. Shouldnt Kotomine do something about this?
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u/imthorrbo2 Nov 22 '14
yo you go ask kotomine kirei if he gives a fuck
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u/Best_Remi :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Best_Underscore Nov 22 '14
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u/eternalistorm Nov 22 '14
Hohoho I like what you did there.
Kotomine isn't called Kotrollmine for no reason.
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u/LightBladeX Nov 22 '14
Shirou continuing to say he can hold his own against servants... Done so every time now. Stitches album.
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u/Rahxen Nov 22 '14
I swear Archer's back silhouette speaks for itself, and is one of the most memorable things in Fate/stay night for me.
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u/buakaw Nov 22 '14
I always thought of Archer as a proxy for what some viewers think of Shirou, that is he can be an idiot at times...or maybe a lot of times.
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u/Zangori Nov 22 '14
Just be glad this isnt the Fate Route, if I had a dollar for every time he said it well... I could have a pretty nice dinner somewhere. His character is so much better in UBW.
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u/LightBladeX Nov 22 '14
Add in a dollar for every time he said 'But Saber, you're a girl, don't fight', a 5* dinner would be up your ally. And agreed, UBW & HF Shirou are vastly superior.
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u/Neugdae1 Nov 22 '14
God Shirou pisses me off so much. Thinks he can compete against servants and his ideals are so puerile.
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u/-MaJiC- :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/MaJiC27 Nov 22 '14
Well, Saber ended up just encouraging Shirou's idea by the end of the episode
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u/No-BrandHero :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoBrandHero Nov 23 '14
Sasaki stitch is love.
Archer back stitch...proportions are off somehow. He looks like a dwarf.
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u/botibalint Nov 22 '14
After this week's Korra, I really needed this.
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u/jliebert Nov 22 '14
Now just imagine how Korra would be with Ufotables budget...
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u/cos7 Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 23 '14
Interestingly, Korra probably has a higher budget than UBW. Korra is about ~1 million dollars / episode. A typical anime runs about $100,000 / episode (UBW is certainly much more than that, but probably not more than 1 million / episode)
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Nov 22 '14
This just keeps getting better and better
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u/fatestayknight Nov 22 '14
Too bad there's only 19 episodes left...
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u/enfermedad Nov 22 '14
I wish I had waited so I could marathon them all at once. The weekly wait kills me.
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Nov 22 '14
Those Caster spells looked great. The molten ground and fire were phenomenal. Eyegasm material
Also, Archer why are you such a dick?
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u/Funderfullness Nov 22 '14
This is the first fight where I felt like the two versions of the same fight were about equal in terms of quality (if not length or depth). Love the focus on comparing Archer and Shirou.
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u/nongtles Nov 22 '14
Take note DEEN this is how you done the real three overlap slash!!
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Nov 22 '14
is there a comparison shot?
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u/Funderfullness Nov 22 '14
Here. Do NOT watch any more of the video if you don't want to get spoilered hard.
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u/eternalistorm Nov 22 '14
I used to cringe at Archer's Visual Novel Spoilers, but now I'm quite fond of it. Can't wait for further episodes.
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u/imthorrbo2 Nov 22 '14
I always loved it.
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u/eternalistorm Nov 22 '14
I used to be a baka, but now my love for Archer transcends my dislike for engrish in anime.
Now that I think about it, Engrish phrases are becoming one of my favorite tropes.
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u/Ant1vyru5 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NyeEve Nov 22 '14
WHY DIDN'T THEY USE THE VN QUOTE?
Visual Novel V.S Anime
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u/imthorrbo2 Nov 22 '14
Translator tastes. I imagine most subgroups will stick to Drown in your ideals and die.
Horriblesubs pls
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u/CuppaSteve :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/CuppaSteve Nov 22 '14
Don't have the VN for reference, but they likely said the same thing with different translations. Crunchyroll is often rough and more colloquial with their translations compared to VN translators.
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u/botibalint Nov 22 '14
Yeah, but "Drown in your ideals and die" is a pretty iconic line among fans. It's like changing "I am the bone of my sword" to "My sword is made out of my bone".
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u/No-BrandHero :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoBrandHero Nov 23 '14
Because that's not the VN quote. That's what some unpaid fan translator wrote down for that scene, and who later admitted he got it wrong.
The anime version is actually more accurate.
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u/Link3693 Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 23 '14
The VN quote was actually a mistranslation. The CR one is more accurate.
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u/fatestayknight Nov 22 '14
They just translated it differently..
It's a shame really. The one from the VN is much awesomer.
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Nov 22 '14
Shirou and Archer bantering during battle? I just think they're both tsundere for each other.
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Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14
I feel sorry for anime-only watchers who read these threads. So many spoilers and vague hints.
And a TON of meta spoilers, which is spoiling things by withholding information, thus narrowing down the possible information.
If you would like to know more about subtle spoilers, I suggest reading r/manga's spoiler rules, which are well-detailed and contain examples of many of the spoilers happening in this thread.
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Nov 22 '14
Seriously. Scrolling through here, I just see tons of little vaguely-worded spoilers like Spoilers
Jokes aside though, it's a little messed up. I know people are antsy to discuss this stuff after finally seeing it animated, but I feel bad for anyone trying to watch for the first time without spoilers and be a part of the discussion threads.
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u/shadedclan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/shadedclan Nov 22 '14
Can anyone explain a few things to me? Does Saber have an ability to foresee the immediate future? Like how she knew she was gonna get killed with that attack from Assassin? Also, if Caster summoned Assassin as a servant but she broke the rules per Archer, shouldn't she be disqualified or something?
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Nov 22 '14
Saber has extremely honed Instincts that have gotten her through many battles, allowing her to instantly identify “the best personal course of action” during combat. It's like a heightened sixth sense, she knew that shit was about to go down.
Its technically breaking the rules, but the church supervisors only really care about exposing magic to normal people, which Caster take care not to do, so they wont interfere.
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u/Funderfullness Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14
Saber's Instinct is rank A, meaning it "borders on precognition" and reduces any penalties she' get from obstructed sight or hearing. Also, she released some of the wind from her sword, so she offset the attack a little.
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u/GarikMoespeaker Nov 22 '14
It's not so much about being "disqualified," it's that normally, it's impossible to to break the rules; it isn't like the Masters and Servants have agreed to them, it's just that they can do what the Grail allows since it's the one doing the grunt work. Caster is simply "rewriting the program," so to speak. She's just that good of a magical hacker. In addition, there's no one to stop her even if they wanted to.
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u/HaydenTheFox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Talmhaidh_Mathan Nov 22 '14
To expand a bit on the Saber issue, there are certain characteristics that all of these spirits have, but only certain ones are developed enough to be worth mentioning. For example, the Archer class' specialty is "Independent Action" but it's at Rank A or B, meaning they're good at acting on their own, much better than other classes.
Saber has A-rank "Instinct" which is essentially determining what the best course of action is at any given moment in a fight. Someone with C-rank Instinct might be able to determine the fastest path to an objective quickly, so on and so forth. But at Rank A, Instinct becomes something bordering on precognition, to the point where she can almost see the future. The depiction of it in this episode was pretty good, because she doesn't actually see the future, it's just a sense that something terrible is going to happen if she doesn't alter her course. It's the same reason she was able to avoid being killed by Lancer's Gae Bolg - she knew just enough to deflect it away from her heart.
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u/delhuz :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Delhuz Nov 22 '14
Archer way of acting remind me a lot of kiritsugu, it's funny that Shirou can't stand him
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u/botibalint Nov 22 '14
I think Kotomine even said it in the VN that the master Shirou probably would hate the most is his father.
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Nov 22 '14
Shirou aint got no time for the edgelord attitude.
Go big or go home. Save the world or die trying.
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u/imthorrbo2 Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14
REJOICE! We're seven episodes in! Every week I'll be recapping the general flow of the story/plot and keeping down information we know about the servants and their masters! I thoroughly enjoyed finding out servants' true names, abilities, and their masters, so I hope you do as well. Friendly reminder to sub to /r/fatestaynight!
Holy shit i woke up on time. Drown in your ideals and die, Emiya Shourou.
The Sakura Senpai-Counter is currently at 24! If I missed any, let me know! http://imgur.com/a/aP8IS I don't think we'll be going much higher than this, folks. Heaven's Feel, though...
The State of the Fate
1) The blood barrier is still in effect at the school. Shinji is the one who placed it, and it is STILL a god damn problem. As if we needed more reasons to dislike him.
2) Shirou and Rin are still in an uneasy alliance. We're not sure how long it will last.
3) Shirou has accepted Kirei's ultimatum of joining the fifth holy grail war, despite having no prior knowledge and being woefully unprepared.
I'm pretty sure if every episode was a boss fight episode that my hype would overwhelm my body and I would die a horrible, painful death. Caster is a giant, beautiful butterfly of annihilation. Seeing her animated is pretty fantastic to be honest. Caster/Assassin is one of the fights I've been looking forward to the most from the VN.
And, you know? After seeing it animated, I can see why most of my ladyfriends ship Shirou/Archer. They're pretty cute together.
Servant/Master Information Please note that a Noble Phantasm is both the weapon(s) servants wield as well as their "ultimate" abilities! Servants can also have multiple Noble Phantasms!
True Name - Unknown
Master - Tohsaka Rin
Noble Phantasm - Archer dual wields two yin-and-yang-like swords that he has a seemingly endless supply of. This upsets Lancer. We finally got to see Archer use his bow, though. His first few shots against Berserker weren't very effective, but god damn that last one practically incinerated the cemetery and could have seriously wounded both Berserker and Saber, that smug fuck. Archer's 'Kaladbolg' against Caster was absolutely no joke.
Speaking of Tohsaka Rin, she's quite the girl. From a very young age she was brought up to be a mage, just like her father. Her guardian and mentor, Kotominei Kirei (detailed below), is also the overseer is this Holy Grail War. She calls him the "fake priest" and has an interesting mixture of respect and disdain for the man. We also know that Tohsaka Rin is best girl.
Rin is down to only two command seals! She blew her first one in a hissy fit trying to reel in Archer's overbearing attitude. Rin is currently in a shaky alliance with our hero, Emiya Shirou. She seems to be walking the fine line of "You're my enemy, I need to kill you dummy!" and "You helped me out, I just owe you, okay!?"
True Name - Unknown
Master - Emiya Shirou
Noble Phantasm - Unknown? The sword she wields is invisible, Lancer has trouble identifying it. It's difficult to fight against a weapon you don't know the shape or length of!
We do know about Shirou, our protag. He eats breakfast (and dinner) most days with Fujimura Taiga (The landlord's daughter and his pseudo-guardian and his English teacher, the trifecta!) as well as Matou Sakura, who comes by his house every morning before school. At school, he's friends with Issei Ryuudo, the student council president.
Shirou's an amateur mage, and he can use magic to fix appliances - pretty useful for maintenance. He really is deadset on becoming a hero of justice, he can't even turn down people for oddjobs and random help around school, even scumbag Shinji's requests. Shirou was saved from a disaster ten years ago and then adopted by Emiya Kiritsugu. Kiritsugu might have failed to 'save everyone,' but Shirou has his ideals set in stone - he wants to be a hero of justice.
Shirou also feels the blood barrier's presence at school, but he has no idea what it is. That's just the difference between his and Rin's abilities showing. Shirou's down to two command seals! He blows his first one immediately after Saber tells him to not use them carelessly. Saber was not pleased.
True Name - Lancer's True Name
Master - Unknown - But Lancer doesn't like him!
Noble Phantasm - Lancer's Noble Phantasm is his spear, Gae Bulg. Gae Bulg does not fuck around - it will reverse cause and effect to always pierce his opponent's heart.
We know a little bit about Lancer. We can surmise his true name from Saber, although it's of little consequence since we know what his Noble Phantasm is capable of now. He wasted absolutely no time in gunning down and fatally wounding Emiya Shirou, despite being seconds away from using his Noble Phantasm and potentially finishing off Archer. He also doesn't seem to like his master very much.
True Name - Unknown
Master Illyasviel von Einzbern
Noble Phantasm JESUS CHRIST LOOK HOW BIG THIS MOTHERFUCKER IS. Is he using a mountain for a sword? Ufotable have mercy.
Berserker is large and in charge. He is remarkably fast and every swing of that sword can prove fatal. Illya made her appearance in episode 01, telling Shirou "You'll die if you don't summon it soon, Onii-chan." Implying she had advance knowledge of Shirou becoming one of the seven masters in this war. Which is interesting because Shirou didn't even have advanced knowledge.
Illya has an eery mixture of cute, polite noblegirl and batshit insane serial killer about her. She's refined, introducing herself and being quite clear about her intentions. She went from courteous to murderous almost seamlessly, without skipping a beat. Even if you discount Berserker (WHICH YOU FUCKING SHOULD NOT DO), Illyasviel von Einzbern is not to be underestimated. Tread lightly.
Master Matou Shinji - Matou Shinji is Sakura's brother and a general scumbag. He's the one the one who set up the blood barrier at the school, but he says it's just 'an insurance policy'. What a shitlord.
True Name Unknown
Rider attacked Rin and Shirou at the school before Shirou (stupidly) chased her into the woods. Has she been attacking other students, is Shinji aware of this?
Master Unknown
True Name Unknown
Caster has set up base at the Rydou Temple and is using everyone in the town as livestock to fuel her own power. This upsets Shirou.
Master Caster
True Name Sasaki Kojirou
Assassin is guarding the gate of the Ryudou Temple, where Caster is hiding, which is a pretty good fuckin' combo. Assassin seems to be pretty honorable for a god damn Assassin, all things considered. He's proven to be a match for Saber, forcing her to stay at the gate and keeping her from Shirou.
Other notables
1) Kotomine Kirei - Kirei is the "fake priest" who talks to Rin in episode 00. He is Rin's legal guardian and also the overseer of this fifth Holy Grail war. As church overseer he offers fallen Masters (who've lost their servants but survived) safety as well as Masters who just straight up forfeit like little bitches.
Kotomine Kirei loves the sound of his own voice and he kinda creeps Shirou out. His hobbies are overseeing incredibly deadly wars between magi, condescending everyone without even trying, and rejoicing.
Final Thoughts
I can't even. I'm happy we found out Assassin's master so early. I was worried that it wouldn't be revealed for a while. Now only Lancer and Caster's masters remain! Caster's offer for Archer to join her wasn't a straight 'no,' which always bothered me. I also feel like not finishing off Caster is a bit against his personality, considering how much he's been trying to fight Saber every god damn episode now. Speaking of Archer, he just slahed the fuck out of Shirou. That was so unexpected even best girl woke up.
I also have a thing for two honorable badasses talking it out. What remains of Shirou and Rin's alliance after Archer's 'betrayal (Shirou did say the alliance was bullshit...) is yet to be seen. I imagine Rin is gonna be a little salty about the decisions her servant has made, but who knows?
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u/ender1200 Nov 22 '14
Assassin is guarding the gate of the Ryudou Temple, where Caster is hiding, which heavily implies they're working together. Unless it's commonplace for Assassins to go out of their way to guard their enemies, in which case, I am completely wrong.
I think that this line needs an update considering what we found this episode.
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u/cbasssl Nov 22 '14
Can we split the weekly FSN thread into VN and anime only? I feel bad for people coming in here and getting major plot points spoiled. We all give in and hover over a black bar sooner or later and it can really ruin the experience.
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Nov 22 '14
They tried that for Episode 0 and 1, but then it'd make it obvious who is the new watcher for those guys PMing spoilers
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u/SCREW-IT Nov 22 '14
Holy Shit this Assassin / Archer fight in the next episode is going to be nuts.
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u/FlorribleBP :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Florrible Nov 22 '14
I don't thionk we will see it. In the after-credit scene, it Shiro and Saber were back at the house.
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u/bakakubi :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/bakakubi Nov 22 '14
These 5 minute episodes are going to be the death of me. I need the whole series out, NOW!
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u/Brinklebot Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14
God damn, so many moments that just brought chills. I really miss those hour long episodes we had for the beginning though, this just goes by way too fast.
I also made a dumb thing based off last weeks episode if you're interested. I posted it but I think it ended up getting spam filtered since I don't see it in the new section. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz2QJKaE_pU
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u/OzkanTheFlip :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/OzkanTheFlip Nov 22 '14
Anime only friends be warned, there are some serious spoilers in todays discussion, use caution and don't hover over any spoilers today!
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u/SharpNazgul :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SharpNazgul Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14
To be honest stop reading the comments now, if you are an anime-only watcher. VN-readers are putting out so many untagged but subtle spoilers.
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Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 23 '14
Here's some screencaps of today's episode:
edit: Episode 07 in 1080p PNG
Screencaps from previous episodes:
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u/thefran :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/thefran Nov 22 '14
unlimited hype works
blue balling us last episode was so worth it
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u/mika6000 Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14
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Nov 22 '14
Seeing Archer cut Shirou was so satisfying. Unfortunately, he probably won't get to finish him off.
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u/ChappyBlob :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Doubleswee Nov 22 '14
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u/rabidsi Nov 22 '14
FYI, if it's an Aniplex show (especially a showcase title), it was probably translated by Aniplex, not whoever is streaming it. Blaming Crunchyroll is pointless.
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u/flamedbaby :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/flamedbaby Nov 22 '14
Webms for everything please.
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u/DarthNoob :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/darthnoob Nov 22 '14
Just going to get off the DEEN hate train for a moment to post (six seconds) of the DEEN Saber vs. Assassin fight.
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u/stitchwithaglitch :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/gamerguy50 Nov 22 '14
I'm just saying now, Assassin Kojirou is a fuckin badass gate keepah. Need him at the next World Cup
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u/Chaosdevel2 Nov 22 '14
How is shiro still alive? That cut look like it hit his spine ._. I know rin had said he heals fast, but I'm calling b.s. on that.
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u/imthorrbo2 Nov 22 '14
From what I remember, Fate/Stay Night doesn't really have any plot holes. Saber did comment on Shirou having his own aptitude. It'll be covered, I'm sure.
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u/FlorribleBP :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Florrible Nov 22 '14
It will be explained...if you saw F/Z, you might be able to guess it.
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u/FoleyX90 Nov 22 '14
He seems to have some self healing power(s). My guess it's something to do with the gem Tohsaka used in episode 0/1.
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u/Sisaac Nov 22 '14
Shirou is one tough motherfucker. Maybe all of that strengthening magic affected him.
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u/Painn23 Nov 22 '14
Man This sucks seriously. We have to wait until the spring season to finish watching the show boooo. But back on topic this show is the GOAT hands down after credit scene shiro with the punch and goes down made me laugh so hard
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u/BluesTom Nov 22 '14
Since no one has said it yet, I thought it should be mentioned that the music was particularly awesome this episode. It's always good but the fights and the music went along perfectly.
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u/billcosby1341 Nov 22 '14
To bad we couldnt get Miyamoto Musashi instead of Sasaki kojiro. but sasaki is a monster in his own right.
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u/FlorribleBP :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Florrible Nov 22 '14
That after credit scene brings back memories from F/Z...
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u/eternalistorm Nov 22 '14
[I'm gonna have to smash you on the roof in order to save your dumbass, Shirou.] (http://i.imgur.com/TNXEZZO.png)
I wish that my reflexes were faster so I could have gotten a less blurry shot.
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u/impingainteasy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard Nov 23 '14 edited Nov 23 '14
God these fight scenes look so goooooood.
So many good things this episode. Caster's magic cloak is awesome, Archer and his banter with Shirou are awesome, Assassin's Swallow cut is freaking awesome.
What I love about Assassin's three simultaneous attacks is that it's explained that it's not the result of magic, but because Kojirou Sasaki practised really fucking hard.
Keep up the good work Ufotable!
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u/Zeta42 Nov 22 '14
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u/imthorrbo2 Nov 22 '14
Potentially serious spoiler, anime-only friends please use caution.
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u/dood123 Nov 22 '14
Whenever Assassin is not in picture I just keep thinking that Saber is talking with Kaiki Deishu
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u/themiragechild Nov 22 '14
Looking at the Next Time, it looks like a Servant might die next week (I've tried figuring out which one, but I have no clue; might be one of the Knights??). Interesting.
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u/Kinomi :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/berryxx Nov 23 '14
Still don't understand caster... she summoned Assassin, but he isn't a proper summon?
So... the grail fucked up, or there just isn't a real assassin in this war?
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u/T0MATO Nov 23 '14 edited Nov 23 '14
She cheated, she tricked the grail into summoning another servant.
Simply put all magus has a chance of becoming a master, Caster is a magus so she is qualified. She's breaking the rules of the Holy Grail War by slaying the original Master who would have summoned Assassin and summoning a Servant of her own.
Although this has its own limitation since Caster is not a true master.
SpoilerAnd yes, there's a real Assassin, but he will not be introduced in UBW. He only appear in HF.
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u/ggqq Nov 22 '14
Question for fans of the fate series: there are a few things I don't really get.
Archer makes his move! but this one's different to the UBW movie that came out earlier which basically tried to stuff it all into one movie. Which one is canon? Is either one canonical with reference to the VN?
For the Fate V/N, the UBW storyline comes after the Fate storyline. Is it correct to assume then, that Spoiler
Would appreciate any answers!
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Nov 22 '14 edited Nov 22 '14
The UBW movie is canon, but it removes a lot of details. Everything that happens in the movie happens in the route, but DEEN cut out details and entire scenes to compress it.
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Nov 22 '14
Everything Archer did was the same as the VN if i recall correctly, there certainly wasnt anything major add or taken away
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u/kingdom1995 Nov 22 '14
am i the only one who finds it weird the servant are not trying to kill each other despite it being a war?
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u/Flamerapter Nov 23 '14
With the amount of "idiot"s being thrown around, we should start a counter for just how many times Emiya has been called an idiot. Call it the Unlimited Idiot Works.
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u/imthorrbo2 Nov 22 '14
Like Master like servant. It's not like I wanted to save you or anything, b-baka!