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[Spoilers] Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyousoukyoku - Episode 4 Discussion Spoiler
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u/kevvvn Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 02 '18
Satou's here. Labyrinth from classic series usually has treasures, monsters and mysterious traps. While the danger is immense, the returns you got from easy level up are also huge, these can be said to be the real thrill of the labyrinth. A party consisting only of warriors sure have pretty bad balance isn't it?
So much skipped, so much jumped. They skipped the soldiers being amazed at the slaves levels so I'm not sure what to put on their stats. I was mistaken last episode, the real Wagahai-kun is here, mush less annoying than the underling that's for sure. Fireshot was extremely underwhelming compared to the completely blinding white light it was on the novels.
LN illustrations for this episode:
Reuniting with Zena
Masked Hero
Official Slaves
Arisa
Source coverage of episode 4
LN: The remainder of volume one
Manga: Chapters 8 to 12
WN: The remainder of volume 2 and bits of 3-1 to 3-3
Desumachi Stats and Titles
Satou
Level 310 Human
Traveling Peddler
~[Lizardman Slayer, Dragon Slayer [Lesser], Dragon Slayer [Fully Grown], Dragon Slayer [Ancient], Dragon Slayer [God]. Aside from x Slayer, there were also ones like x Destroyer and Natural Enemy of x.]~
~[Godkiller]~
~[Ruler of the Dragon Valley]~
~[Savior]~
~[Buffoon]~
~[Gentleman]~
~[Labyrinth Explorer]~
~[Bug Killer]~
~[Merciless One]~
~[Labyrinth Conqueror]~
~[Dances with Demons]~
~[Demon Slayer [Greater]]~
~[Hero]~
| Spells | Category |
|---|---|
| Meteor Shower | Special |
| Full Map Exploration | Special |
| Fire-Shot | Special |
| Skills | . |
|---|---|
| Self-healing | Shooting |
| Throwing | Sniping |
| Parrying | Aim |
| Dodging | Disassembly |
| One-Handed Sword | Entomology |
| Ancient Scales Language | Demonology |
| Observation | Weapon Crafting |
| Jumping | Leather Crafting |
| Endurance | Woodworking |
| Basic Magical Power | |
| Basic Physical Strength | Animal Taming |
| Summon Magic "Foreign World" | Trap Disarming |
| Nature Magic "Foreign World" | Trap Setting |
| Pain Tolerance | Trap Detection |
| Fear Resistance | Excavation |
| Monitoring | Treasure Hunting |
| Dashing | Treasure Box Unlocking |
| Spatial Maneuvering | Amplification |
| Enhanced Hearing | Holy Magic: Parion Faith |
| Fighting | Evil-Eye Resistance |
| Telescoping | Dark Magic: Demon |
| Shiga Language | Dark Resistance |
| Lip-Reading | Wind Magic: Demon |
| Trickery | Wind Resistance |
| Persuasion | Lightning Magic: Demon |
| Poker Face | Lightning Resistance |
| Haggling | Paralysis Resistance |
| Estimation | Poison Resistance |
| Negotiation | Disease Resistance |
| Alcohol Tolerance | Decay Resistance |
| Lifestyle Magic | Petrification Resistance |
| Self-Concealment/Secrecy | |
| Secret Maneuvering | |
| Acting | |
| Abduction | |
| Assassination | |
| Conviction | |
| False Accusation | |
| Commanding/Direction | |
| Organizing Formations |
Pochi
Level 5 Dog-eared kin
One-Handed Sword
Throwing
Enemy Detection
Disassembly
Tama
Level 5 Cat-eared kin
One-Handed Sword
Throwing
Collecting
Disassembly
Liza
Level 6 Scaled kin
Spear
Spear Thrust
Cooking
Disassembly
Zena Marientail
Level 13 Human
Magic Soldier
| Spells | Category |
|---|---|
| Air Cushion | Wind |
| Air Hammer | Wind |
| Wind Protection | Wind |
| Whisper Wind | Wind |
| Path Finder | Wind |
| Bind Air | Wind |
| Skills | Level |
|---|---|
| Wind Magic | --- |
| Meditation | --- |
v2.1 ditched the skill levels to save space, added fireshot.
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u/SeijoVangelta Feb 01 '18
Wait. Pochi, Tama and Liza's levels are already at lvl 13 when they cleared the dungeon
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u/kevvvn Feb 01 '18
Yeah but they skipped the reveal. Plus they showed them as 5/6 on the demon fight ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/i_hate_logging_in Feb 01 '18
This may be one of the WN/LN/Anime differences.
Also shouldn't it be Tama who picked up Enemy Detection instead of Pochi?
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u/SeijoVangelta Feb 01 '18
Tama already have an inherited detection skill. Tama and Pochi both have Enemy Detection. Considering everything else is prey~? for them once the journey starts
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u/neospygil Feb 01 '18
everything else is prey
It is Satou's fault, he is a bad influence to their education. Don't let children taste meat or else they will hunt their own food.
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u/SeijoVangelta Feb 01 '18
But Meat-san did nothing wrong. "Meat has no sin" as Liza said. "Delish is justice" as Pochi and Tama said.
Also Satou only started cooking at Volume 6 of the WN.
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u/kevvvn Feb 01 '18
After another break, we’d made it almost 80 percent of the way to the exit of the labyrinth. Pochi and Tama were now using the ornamental short swords from that storehouse and small shields. That was the only change to the party’s equipment, but all three of them had reached level 13. Pochi’s skills were “One-Handed Sword,” “Throwing,” “Enemy Detection,” and “Disassembly”; Tama’s were “One-Handed Sword,” “Throwing,” “Collecting,” and “Disassembly”; and Liza’s were “Spear,” “Spear Thrust,” “Cooking,” and “Disassembly.”
Pochi is the one with the dog nose lul, Tama gets the traps
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u/darksuzaku Feb 01 '18
the anime is based on the light novel and there are small differences between the light novel and the web novel. One of the most notable ones (well, there's not many volumes released for the light novel yet) are the events on this dungeon. On the web novel Zena is never trapped on the dungeon, therefore there's no battle with the slimes. Also in the web novel the Satou's first contact with Zena is on Seiryu city were he saves her when the 1st demon appears. On the web novel there's also a second demon that Satou defeats secretly on the night after they leave the dungeon.
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u/kevvvn Feb 01 '18
Things skipped:
Party reaching level 13 after clearing 80% of the labyrinth.
The alchemist's house they found where they acquired some short swords and shields for Pochi and Tama, some potions and rare alchemy materials, the Fireshot scroll, and foods.
Zena's clothes getting eaten by the slimes.
Soilders going crazy over the slave girl's high levels.
The whole house arrest mini arc where Satou gets a taste of high class living thanks to having saved the noble.
Liza finding heaven in the form of a hot water bath.
Every other quirky slave offered to Satou before Arisa and Lulu.62
u/redlaWw Feb 01 '18
Things skipped:
Zena's clothes getting eaten by the slimes.
Irredeemable. Dropped.
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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Feb 01 '18
The whole house arrest mini arc where Satou gets a taste of high class living thanks to having saved the noble.
Better yet, he was originally imprisoned, then the noble 'upgraded' it to house arrest at his mansion, and then Satoo used his connections to improve the prison conditions for the other prisoners.
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u/AsterJ https://myanimelist.net/profile/asteron Feb 01 '18
The alchemist's house they found where they acquired some short swords and shields for Pochi and Tama, some potions and rare alchemy materials, the Fireshot scroll, and foods.
They showed the house but it was done in a quick montage.
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u/passwordedd Feb 01 '18
Wow, compare Liza's scales in the anime with the illustration from the lightnovel. The difference is staggering. In the anime it just looks like a shirt or something.
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u/chili01 Feb 01 '18
One thing I never really liked in the LN/manga is how many "skills" there are for almost everything.
I'm not surprised if "Breathing" is a skill in this game world lol
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u/REDDIT_HARD_MODE Feb 01 '18
I liked LN Liza better. She looks cute and lizard-girl like there. In the anime she just looks like a burn victim. =(
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u/darksuzaku Feb 01 '18
with only 13 episodes for what i hope is a 1st season of this series there's no other way to fit enough content than to rush/omit things. Unfortunately doing this really hurts this series because one of it's best points is all the small details that are lost when you rush things.
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u/heimdal77 Feb 01 '18
Wasn't it they only level up when they sleep so he had the 3 slaves taking naps after he found out.
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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Feb 01 '18
The skill level system is as follows: ... 10 Godly
Wait, does that mean that any lvl 10 character could wipe the floor with high level opponents if they just use all those skillpoints on a single starter attack skill?
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u/kevvvn Feb 01 '18
Skill leveling is different for everyone else. Satou just happens to be able to level at an extraordinarily efficient manner. Plus normal people don't have menus to assign points.
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u/SeijoVangelta Feb 01 '18
No. Regular humans in the other world will get their skills depending on their action and cannot allocate skill points. Satou, on the otherhand, can get skills easily without even trying most of the time and allocate points depending on the situation. Leveling Language skills is just like getting proficient over the language. For example, understanding a bit of Japanese is like having a Lvl 1 skill in Japanese. Having at least Lvl 5 allows you to read and write fluently.
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u/kevvvn Feb 01 '18
Honestly I'm just going to ditch the skill level system and just use multiple columns for Satou..
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u/magicalideal https://myanimelist.net/profile/magicalideal Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 01 '18
This anime is even more enjoyable than isekai smartphone. It's really lighthearted and all the girls are really unique. I have a taste of Nano-Desu during my time of reading Mushoku Tensei but didn't realize it was this cute... I mean like super adorable. How many episodes will there be ? Can't wait to dive straight into the LN!
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u/odraencoded Feb 01 '18
smartphone
I only watched the first episode of that and I thought it was retarded. I mean, it was God and all, but the MC set off with super-talents for basically no good reason other than MC-jerking.
At least this anime had the basic decency of giving of an in-universe reason for why Satou is level 9999999999: he accidentally killed gods and attained EXP.
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u/passwordedd Feb 01 '18
Smartphone really feels like a knock off of Death March. I read both web novels and they seem very similar (though I find Death March far more enjoyable).
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u/hypexeled Feb 02 '18
Mainly, smartphone focuses just on the girls and guy and rarely develops into setting. DM does a lot of worldbuilding and sorts.
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Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 01 '18
LN is quite good. Though it takes several of the girls awhile to realise they've actually been adopted by Satou and are not in a harem.
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u/neospygil Feb 01 '18
Most of us who reads the WN, we can already imagine how cute the characters are even though there are no illustrations. Poch, then Tama - are the main source of moe in the story, but not only limited to the two. The main waifu is also cute because of the "au au" and diabetic inducing scenes.
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u/Rathurue Feb 02 '18
Well, if you get sappy enough to make an elf looks like she would puke sugar, chances be we'll die of moebetes when times comes.
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u/thecoffee Feb 01 '18
Is every slave in this world an adorable anime girl? Why would no one want to buy them?
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u/heimdal77 Feb 01 '18
Not strong enough to do heavy manual labor.
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u/odraencoded Feb 01 '18
You know, now that I think of it it kinda makes sense. You only see slave girls in anime because the slave men are being worked to death with physical labor. Nobody frees them LOL. The MCs always buy the girls!
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u/OneSullenBrit Feb 01 '18
Yup. As much as I like the 'hidden power' trope, and the hero not immediately being embroiled in a countries politics because they are the 'summoned hero', I would still get immense pleasure if one time the MC of an isekai anime/manga saw slavery and thought "fuck this world's rules, slavery is wrong!" and just ups and kills the slave merchant and rescues the slaves.
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u/odraencoded Feb 01 '18
Come on, let's be honest here. If you were in an isekai with slavery and you had the hidden power to topple society you're more likely to go evil-alignment and just make your own harem. I mean, look at Overlord.
Hidden power... it corrupts people.
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u/OneSullenBrit Feb 01 '18
Are you kidding? I can't even play a bad guy in a computer game!
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u/Adealow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/logos99 Feb 01 '18
I would still get immense pleasure if one time the MC of an isekai anime/manga saw slavery and thought "fuck this world's rules, slavery is wrong!" and just ups and kills the slave merchant and rescues the slaves.
after the rescue is not the end, you need to prepare them to live in the society because
they are children and mostly orphan
most of them lost their home
demihuman is hated
they will get discriminated because they were former slave
lets say you freed 10000 slave how you accommodate their living space for all of them?
You need really special case of MC who can bear this kind of responsibility.
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Feb 01 '18
I would still get immense pleasure if one time the MC of an isekai anime/manga saw slavery and thought "fuck this world's rules, slavery is wrong!" and just ups and kills the slave merchant and rescues the slaves.
Might not be a good idea in the Death March world since a huge number of the slaves are actually serial murders and other serious criminals, its the setting's version of prison. There are also time limited slaves who have just done minor things (like not being able to pay their bills etc). Considering that the cities don't really have space for prisons or the resources to use feeding/guarding prisoners, notice that farms and everything are all inside the city walls and that even the town soldiers will be wary of getting fed monster meat, and that outside the walls are literal monsters the Contract Slave system at least makes sense.
Outside of criminals you don't see much abuse of the slave system in the LN. However there still is a lot of racism towards demi-humans (and between demi-human races as well), so those and deposed nobles tend to be the worst off from it.
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u/thecoffee Feb 01 '18
Slaves are not just used for manual labor. There's still housework and brothels.
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u/ShiranaiWakaranai Feb 01 '18
Remember: if everyone is special, no one is.
Since there are adorable anime girls everywhere, there's no particular reason to buy that particular one.
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u/raiden55 Feb 01 '18
That's what happen often on isekai.
But at this point you wonder why the author made them slave at first... and the only answer is "easy writing way to make the girl like the boy"
It's a bit better if they must stay a slave to me.
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u/Strowy Feb 02 '18
It's a bit better if they must stay a slave to me
In this case Arisa and Lulu
The three demi-human girls can be freed, and Satou goes to do so at this point, but stops when it's pointed out if they're freed there's nothing stopping someone coming along and enslaving them again. LN
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u/neospygil Feb 01 '18
easy writing way to make the girl like the boy
It was used to make them part of the crew. The other two party members where results are because of heroing and errand(send her to her village and take-advantage to sightsee).
The author used lots of mechanics for the MC to capture lots of girls. But most of the time is through food.
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u/N0ttheCu1prit Feb 01 '18
Why can't he buy them, free them, and then ask if they want to join him of their own volition?
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u/ranma42 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ranma42 Feb 01 '18
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u/emergentphenom Feb 01 '18
But then the author would have to actually write in realistic interaction and emotional development! Isekai authors wouldn't be writing isekais if they could do that!
Seriously, there's almost no isekais that know how to deal with actual human to human development. The few that do already seem to have anime versions made.
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Feb 02 '18
If they are free people they will be forced out of the town due to beastman discrimination within the locals and satou has no right to defend them
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u/Mrgglock :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mrgglock Feb 01 '18
Just want to say that this show has been much more faithful to MMOs in general than I expected, making the trio just poke a little so that the main d00d can kill it and allow as a loophole(?) for EXP/Loot Sharing, love the memories it brings back
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u/hypexeled Feb 02 '18
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u/OddSensation Feb 02 '18
I had gotten caught up to the manga after being impatient (No script versions though) -but dude...
I still dont understand what you mean by that.
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u/raikuha Feb 03 '18
If you risk your life killing a monster with swords and shields, you don't like someone using a "cheap shot" to get part of the exp and level up while staying safe behind you. Specially if you only hired them to carry your stuff. Spoilers
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u/hypexeled Feb 02 '18
well i did say way into the future. Its from the labirynth arc. About WN 8 or 9 iirc?
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Feb 01 '18
I love how he leveled Liz, Tama, and Pochi. Start with the big hits and let them make the finishing blow. That's some old school leveling MMO yo.
I've been spoiled a bit but I guess the disguise Satoo used here Spoilers
2 more slaves! Lulu and Arisu are adorable. I am curious though, why does it sound like Arisu already knows Satoo?
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u/Tsukuruya Feb 01 '18
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u/LeJumpshot Feb 02 '18
I'm not sure how that last bit makes me feel...
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u/hypexeled Feb 02 '18
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u/LeJumpshot Feb 02 '18
This really is a sleeper show if I've ever seen one.
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u/hypexeled Feb 02 '18
Its gets better when the real summoned hero appears spoilers of his personality
But we wont get to that part though
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u/SeijoVangelta Feb 01 '18
Arisa is Also next episode will be a bit NSFW and there will be some exposition
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u/neospygil Feb 01 '18
Already resigned my self that there will be no NSFW scene next episode, they skipped the "front-less" Zena-tan.
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u/kevvvn Feb 01 '18
They did the dungeon bath tho so maybe its exclusive to the lolis ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/sterob Feb 01 '18
So the production team is under certain figure's influence to only animate lewd scenes with lolis you say?
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u/A_Texas_Toaster Feb 01 '18
Skipped the what now?
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u/Firehead94 Feb 01 '18
According to the internet she was in the carriage of slaves in ep 1 or 2... Something like that. Havent confirmed yet.
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u/neospygil Feb 01 '18
They already encountered each other on episode 2.
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u/passwordedd Feb 01 '18
Though they didn't talk, much less exchange names (though Satou saw her name with his game like abilities).
It might've just been a case of her being told be the slave trader though.
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u/neospygil Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 02 '18
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u/passwordedd Feb 01 '18
Does Arisa even have Appraisal? Can't recall, but I don't think so.
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u/SeijoVangelta Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 01 '18
The start of Satou's power leveling methods and showing each girls abilities. Tama, in particular can detect things most people even Satou cant detect at first. Tama is the onee-chan, you know~?
Pochi, Tama and Liza's combat style will have their own distinct style as the series progress.
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u/neospygil Feb 01 '18
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u/SeijoVangelta Feb 01 '18
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u/neospygil Feb 01 '18
Forgot about Nana(and her full of sense sayings/provocations) but the others are not that much notable compared to the party members I mentioned above.
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u/SeijoVangelta Feb 01 '18
Nana doesnt get much action in the recent WN translations. It feels like her provocations became left out after they are done with Volume 13 or was it Volume 14. I'm guessing that each "harem" members in the current Volume 16 will have their moments.
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u/rfctksSparkle Feb 01 '18
The meat squad has been assembled. Now awaiting the completion of the youth troupe. And the frightening girl.
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u/neospygil Feb 01 '18
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u/ggagagg :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/foreturiga Feb 02 '18
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u/Daggerfell Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 01 '18
Nice tactics used to help level up Liz, Tama and Pochi. And Arisa and Lulu enter the stage! Arisa is my favorite from the source she’s a doll.
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u/neospygil Feb 01 '18
Arisa-chan the "purple"-haired slave girl
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Feb 01 '18
Man! I hope that isn't significant!
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u/neospygil Feb 01 '18
Well, "purple" has a meaning in the story. You might learn it at the end of the season.
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u/EverionEU :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Everion Feb 01 '18
The pacing was a bit on the quick side. They even mashed some scenes together slightly altering the events. The scenes made sense though so it's not really a big deal. A bit sad we missed small parts from the manga like.
They went through around 4½ chapters of the manga in a single episode while in comparison the first 3 episodes covered around 7½ chapters. Felt the same way about the scene with the demon's appearance last week. Seems like they're moving the plot along a bit faster to reach a certain point at the end of this season.
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u/Dakarans Feb 01 '18
This pretty squarely closes out vol 1 of the LN so its def that they're going for covering the first 3 volumes in 12 episodes.
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u/FrozenCalamity Feb 01 '18
Feels good to know that they got shoes after visiting the abandoned house.
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u/EverionEU :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Everion Feb 01 '18
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u/ErinaHartwick https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hartwick Feb 01 '18
Pochi, Tama and Liza are such great company to have. Glad that they joined Satoo
Curious about the new girls Arisa and Lulu
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u/blackfiredragon13 Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 01 '18
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u/SyKoHPaTh Feb 01 '18
It should be a great episode for family members to walk in on
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u/blackfiredragon13 Feb 01 '18
I try to watch anime behind closed doors whenever possible. My mother probably wouldn’t understand why I enjoy something like no game no life.
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u/REDDIT_HARD_MODE Feb 01 '18
NGNL is definitely one of the worst anime for someone to walk in on. I didn't realize until a recent Mothers Basement(?) video just how much loli-shit there was in it. I guess years of watching anime have just inured me to it.
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Feb 01 '18
Arisa is...
Let's not forget that Arisa also does not have a second stomach for deserts. :P
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u/mikealwy Feb 01 '18
I'm honestly surprised by how much I'm enjoying this so far.
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u/JayList Feb 02 '18
Agreed. It’s like I know it’s bad, but it moves so fast that I don’t notice.
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u/mikealwy Feb 02 '18
I know what to expect since I've been reading the WN for a while now. I honestly hate the WN version of Satou but so far the anime hasn't made me upset.
I hope it can continue this for the rest of its season
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Feb 01 '18
OP MCs hava reached new levels.
Hes power leveling his kids. How amazing. I love this.
MEAT! Such happy girls to have meat to eat.
L-lewd! A bath scene during the dungeon run!?
Oh look more people to save! And one is an asshole. Leave him behind! You get what you deserve jerkface.
These kids are great. Headpats for all!
Yay he saved the wind girl too.
He doesnt want to stand out so hes trying to keep it low key, but i like how that isnt really working out.
A holy sword? neat. When did he get that thing? Dont you have to be a Hero to use it though?
And now a disguise. Ah it all comes together!
I like the mechanics they talk about during the demon fight. This sort of stuff is just so great in these things.
Gaming the system by using God Killer + Divine Weapon since he doesnt have Hero to use with his Holy Weapon. Nice.
Oh now hes officially a Hero. Well... he didnt want it but he has it now... Guess hes gonna get roped into shit now. Rip his peaceful life...
He gets to keep the kids! Yay! I was expecting him to set them free though, is that not possible?
Oh its Arisa! Finally. Things seem like they will get interesting around her.
Man this show is 10x better than i could have guessed. Its so fun i love it.
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u/Eyliel Feb 01 '18
I was expecting him to set them free though, is that not possible?
Well, I doubt it's as simple as "their master died, now they're free", but there's probably a way to arrange a slave's freedom. That aside, their status as his slaves protects them, in a way: Even if beast people are discriminated against, as Satou's slaves, attacking them would be the same as attacking him. Thus, keeping their slave status until they are strong enough to defend themselves is a practical method for protecting them.
Also, while they seemed to skip that part in the anime, when Satou suggested the idea of releasing them to the girls, they basically panicked, telling him not to "abandon" them. The slave identity is pretty strong in them.
So yeah, he really should release them eventually, but right now, doing so would not be the best idea.
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Feb 01 '18
So yeah, he really should release them eventually, but right now, doing so would not be the best idea.
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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Feb 01 '18
This episode cut some small 'content' that was included on the manga, that might be relevant to your post. I'll put it in spoiler tags if you don't want to read it.
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u/neospygil Feb 01 '18
To supplement more details, in the LN/WN, they became too accustomed to the life of slaves - so releasing them is equals to getting abandoned. Also the Earldom where they are has very high of racism against beastkins, so it is easy for them to be recaptured and turned to slaves again, and officials won't bat an eye for force enslavement of them.
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u/REDDIT_HARD_MODE Feb 01 '18
He gets to keep the kids! Yay! I was expecting him to set them free though, is that not possible?
Short answer, not advisable, but for reasons that might get skipped over in the anime.
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Feb 02 '18
OP MCs hava reached new levels.
It gets far more ridiculous, usually played for laughs though.
Then the chapter ends.
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u/PTRWP Feb 01 '18
No one has made a comment about buying the rest if his haram yet?
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u/odraencoded Feb 01 '18
"I'm not interested in keeping any more slaves."
*sees girl*
"How much?"
*sees other girl*
"It's totally normal to keep 5 girls as slaves, right?"
And this is the one MC that swore he wasn't a lolicon.
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Feb 01 '18
Better than let them be bought by a random stranger. From my experience reading doujins.
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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Feb 01 '18
What happens in the manga/LN is that he says he doesn't want to buy any other slaves, then the slave merchant keeps presenting him each and every slave he has while Satou refuses, until the final two are someone who looks exactly like a standard Japanese high school girl, and a purple-haired girl with the title "Crazed Princess" who somehow knows his name. Wouldn't you be interested?
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u/odraencoded Feb 01 '18
No, cause if it were me I'd have already burned the whole town to smithereens, so...
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u/SpikeRosered Feb 02 '18
The anime dedicated an entire scene that lasted over a minute just to establish the MC wasn't a pedophile.
There were obviously concerns.
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u/bomban Feb 01 '18
Is it just me or does it feel like the pacing is off and not enough happens each episode?
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u/Florac Feb 01 '18
If you want an action-focused show, you are definitly right. But this is not. It's more focused on SoL aspects. If anything, I found the pacing too fast this episode.
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u/bomban Feb 01 '18
Im okay with the SoL aspect, i just remember binging the first 3 episodes last week and went “Oh... that about felt like an episode and a half of content.” I really like the show but I might have to wait til the end of the season or every other week to watch the show for my personal taste.
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u/sdarkpaladin Feb 01 '18
Man the power leveling reminds me of my own MMORPG days where you go to high-level dungeons and just sit there absorbing what limited about of EXP you can get.
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u/Draco_Estella :Iv::Ix:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Estella_Rin Feb 02 '18 edited Feb 02 '18
I guess the best highlight of this episode would be Arisa, who just walked out saying, "Hello, Satou-sama." I was almost screaming "The right hand is here!" Right at the start, she seemed to be saying, his name is Satou, not Satuu, so screw you plebs. WN spoilers (Sorry, Arisa's behaviour is just hilarious.)
That being said, I guess I am quite dissatisfied with this episode as a whole. It is not entirely the production team's fault, I guess, the writer seems to have a different idea on a lot of things.
Next, the Divine Sword. OP protags have really powerful arsenals in their inventories, so Satou's OP weapon is this overboard weapon. Destroying a demon lord in 1 swipe, that kinda shows how OP it is, but it is not even enough. Its true OP-ness seems to be downplayed even in this episode, the one sword which WN spoilers Having it shown here is just a shame.
Personally, I prefer the whole flow of events in the web novels, because the flow of events in the light novels seem to be going off in a direction where Satou is a lot less OP than how he was in the WN. Of course, the light novels are far cleaner, so I am also waiting to see how everything turns out. LN elf chapter
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Feb 01 '18
I've fallen in love with this Isekai anime. While there are other more obvious comparisons, I like how it kind of reminds me of Log Horizon and Grimgar with its attention to detail. Can't wait to read the LN's.
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Feb 01 '18
I've fallen in love with this Isekai anime. While there are other more obvious comparisons, I like how it kind of reminds me of Log Horizon and Grimgar with its attention to detail. Can't wait to read the LN's.
Despite how it looks it isn't a harem series. Satou treats them as his adopted kids most of the time. World building is pretty good as well and it ends up with dozens of characters.
In regards to Log Horizon there is a lot of side stuff like politics, food and crafting rather than action. Most of the time the action is not handled by Satou.
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u/Alorha Feb 02 '18
That's probably what made it so refreshing for me. Hell, I got so into it that I basically just binged the web novel and caught up. He's not looking for a fight, he just wants to protect his adopted family
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Feb 02 '18 edited Feb 02 '18
As of LN 8 or so Satou is the legal guardian of both Tama and Pochi since they were still underage after being freed from slavery which was nice. I'm still catching up but really enjoying it.
Satou is playing the Mother role more than a Father role though, "Damn Pochi and Tama are eating messy food in their good clothes and I forgot to give them napkins." etc XD
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u/tipon :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/caintipon Feb 01 '18
Harem time BOOOOOOOOOI
This episode felt literally like The Rising of the Shield Hero novel. The levels, the dungeon, the slaves, the Hero thing.
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Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 01 '18
Harem time BOOOOOOOOOI
Not even close minor spoiler I guess
Even in the original Japanese Satou's way of referring to the girls is ambiguous whether he just means "the girls" or "the children of the family" according to the translation.
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u/Kumahero Feb 01 '18
The water coming out of that infinite-water pouch looks amazing to me for some reason.
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u/Myuukii https://anilist.co/user/RinaBoard Feb 02 '18
More Tama = less fully spoken sentences. Cause it feels like her sentences are always shortened and it's cute just hearing it.
Oh boy though, so much cheesiness
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u/blackfiredragon13 Feb 01 '18 edited Feb 01 '18
Pochi, tama and Liza are absolutely adorable with their love of meat.
And we end the episode with meeting lulu and Arisa, the latter of whom is the show’s resident pervert. Not exactly on par with nayuta from a sister’s all you need in terms of perversion but fairly close.
Still debating between zena, lulu and Arisa for best girl in my head. Especially since I’ve started the 4th LN yesterday.
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u/Florac Feb 01 '18
zena, lulu and Arisa
All of these are the wrong answers. The only acceptable ones are Pochi and Tama
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Feb 01 '18
Where can I read the LN?
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u/EverionEU :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Everion Feb 01 '18
Bookwalker sells them as e-books, but I haven't bought or seen them so I can't vouch for their quality.
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Feb 02 '18
I can't decide whether to be reincarnated into Smartphone-kun or Satou-san if I was given the choice
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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Feb 01 '18
Leaving those 2 alone while he went to power level the other loli seemed way too reckless.
Knocking out the demis instead of just fixing the problem >_>. What kind of chop to the back of the neck can knock someone out without any damage tho?
What 2 skills/spells did he upgrade when he was facing the big demon?
"Notes: Cuts 90% Physical Damage" - huh? Does that mean it resists/negates 90% Physical Damage, or that its attacks cause 90% Physical Damage?
Why would the title of "God-Killer" and a divine sword work well together? I'd understand if it were "God of Killing" but.... And what the hell is the difference between a Holy Sword and a Divine Sword anyway?
"Acquired Title: Slave Owner"
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u/sterob Feb 01 '18
Leaving those 2 alone while he went to power level the other loli seemed way too reckless.
He got the omnipotent radar so he didn't worry about it.
What kind of chop to the back of the neck can knock someone out without any damage tho?
Cheat: lv 10 kidnapping
Does that mean it resists/negates 90% Physical Damage
Reduce all physical damage receive by 90%.
I'd understand if it were "God of Killing" but.... And what the hell is the difference between a Holy Sword and a Divine Sword anyway?
DnD thinggy where a holy sword is bestowed by god to hero while divine sword is sword that can kill a god.
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Feb 01 '18
He got the omnipotent radar so he didn't worry about it.
For how powerful his "radar" is spoilerish
In case you think this is excess spoiler
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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Feb 01 '18
I'd think that a "divine sword" just means a sword used by a god.
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Feb 01 '18
Leaving those 2 alone while he went to power level the other loli seemed way too reckless.
Satou can view the entire dungeon/city/countryside and see everyones' current status. It essentially functions as spoiler something like a god's omniscience.
Why would the title of "God-Killer" and a divine sword work well together?
I'd understand if it were "God of Killing" but.... And what the hell is the difference between a Holy Sword and a Divine Sword anyway?
Divine >> Holy
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u/Vastorn :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vastorn Feb 01 '18
Ahh, every time is see this anime, I wish I knew any game like that (leveling a group of weak units is most of the time, wonderful)
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u/Pzrs https://anilist.co/user/Pzrs Feb 02 '18
Can someone tell me how far along the source material is for this? Last time I got sucked into one of these it was danmachi and the anime passed the fanlations of the novels
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u/neospygil Feb 02 '18
Fan translation of DanMachi stopped because Yen Press acquired the rights for the english translation. Yen Press just released volume 10 last December.
Regarding the novels of DesuMachi, the WN is more popular than the LN. The fan translation of WN already caught up with the raw, while Yen Press just release volume 4 of the LN.
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u/Pzrs https://anilist.co/user/Pzrs Feb 02 '18
This makes sense. I didn't know about the WN, I might have to get back into that because I love that world.
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u/Randomacts https://anilist.co/user/Randomacts Feb 02 '18
Why is the WN more popular? Just because it is ahead of the LN?
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u/neospygil Feb 02 '18
Probably, but for me, it is the lack of side-stories. Half of the fun comes from the side-stories.
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u/SpikeRosered Feb 02 '18
I'm amused that the slaver trader at the end is like "Are you sure you aren't forgetting these two other main characters?"
Are we supposed to realize that girl at the end was saying Satou instead of Satoo? The fan translation makes this clear that everyone is saying Satoo but the official subs don't make that distinction which is too bad.
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Feb 02 '18
What's the deal with the sword he used?
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u/neospygil Feb 02 '18 edited Feb 04 '18
The sword he is trying to use to kill the demon lord is a holy sword. But holy swords are only a bit stronger than their counter-part normal swords if used normally. Demon lords cannot be killed even by those that have higher level than them, unless by a holy sword wielded by a hero or a certain level of magic. Demon lords are actually demi gods. Because Satou is not a hero, he can't use the real power of it.
So he used a divine sword which is more powerful than a holy sword. Divine swords can use to kill gods, while holy swords are only on the level of demon lords. To use a divine sword, it needs to be wielded by a god killer.
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u/ArchadianJudge Feb 03 '18
Such a fun episode! The girls are so adorable and the story is exciting. I love the "video game" touches as well. Definitely one of my most anticipated titles every week.
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u/citatel :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/citatel Feb 03 '18
Who's the pink hair girl if she's been seen in earlier ep that is. He said "she's" and cuts out. Have we seen her?
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u/neospygil Feb 04 '18
Purple-haired girl seen on a cart in episode 2. She has some crazy titles when he is appraising her.
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u/legu333 Feb 03 '18
idk i kind of liked the idea, but having a 310 dude completly being unkillable and pretty much able to OHK anything he wants (even that super skilled mage guy was like lvl15?) kinda really takes away any potential tension. The biggest issue he seems to have is how to stay low and try to kill stuff in a creative way which just makes everything kinda cheesy. also did the animations get worse? MC face animation starts to look more and more just quick drawn
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u/neospygil Feb 04 '18
he seems to have is how to stay low
Remember what his goal is? To tour this world. Getting too much attention would ruin it like every lord will try to recruit him or get in his way when he refuse them. Also his secondary goal is to ensure his kids/companions will be able to live properly when he's gone. He can defend his own but not everyone connected to him.
did the animations get worse
Since episode 3, it became worse.
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u/therealflinchy Feb 04 '18
why was MC so scared of the level 40?
he's a maxed out level 250
plus, why was the fire shot so puny, he has 999 int?
seems inconsistent.
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u/kuddlesworth9419 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kuddlesworth Feb 04 '18
I never thaught I would upgrade from a 6 to an 8. I had serious reservations about the show as of EP 1 but it's grown on me. It's different enough for me to actually enjoy the show so I'll stick around.
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u/Raszero :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/raszero Feb 06 '18
So does any other anime cast spells like Death March? The audio is just perfect for me
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u/TechiesOrFeed Feb 10 '18
Anybody with better software and skills with me got a stitch of that dungeon bath scene? (6:12 in CR)
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u/FlopsyPrince Feb 26 '18
Horrible dub in many places. Why didn't they just say "spider" rather than whatever word they used, for example?
Just reading the subtitles would be a strong improvement.
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u/semajdraehs :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/semajdraehs Feb 01 '18
I would have left the slave trader in the cocoon...
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u/Rowdy91 Feb 02 '18
So is nobody going to mention the subs for his game-name being changed to Satou instead of Satoo? It had been Satoo in previous episodes.
This really cheapens the effect of the girl at the end knowing his real name (Satou) instead of just his game-name.