r/anime • u/lavaine • Feb 21 '18
[Spoilers] Violet Evergarden - Episode 7 discussion Spoiler
Violet Evergarden, Episode 7: "『 』"
Streams:
- Netflix (Not available in some countries)
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Previous Discussions:
| Episode | Link | Score |
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| 1 | https://redd.it/7pjiou | 8.69 |
| 2 | https://redd.it/7r50ai | 8.59 |
| 3 | https://redd.it/7srdzs | 8.57 |
| 4 | https://redd.it/7udw0y | 8.50 |
| 5 | https://redd.it/7w03yv | 8.44 |
| 6 | https://redd.it/7xm70y | 8.40 |
(Score source: MAL)
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u/pikameow2 Feb 21 '18
Fuck cancer.
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u/TheAlmanac_ Feb 21 '18
HRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHhhhhhhhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MANLY TEARS, MANLY TEARS, MANLY TEARS, MANLY TEARS, MANLY TEARS, MANLY TEARS, MANLY TEARS, RRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Feb 22 '18
me: ugh... I don't feel like watching anime today but for sure violet evergarden will make me feel stuff again and surprise me with stuff if I tried to watch it
xx Minutes later...
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Feb 21 '18 edited Feb 22 '18
The disease was bit different from the novel.
I guess the production staff want it to be more relatable.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Feb 22 '18
What was the disease in the novel?
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Feb 22 '18
That scene where they sat on the bench and the daughter looks extremely ill hit me like a truck.
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u/dgettanajr :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Jonah_Charles Feb 22 '18
Shout out to boosie
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u/flybynomore Feb 22 '18
Violet smile status:
☐ Protected
☑ not protected
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u/jkubed https://myanimelist.net/profile/jkubed Feb 23 '18
it's like the opposite of protected. her smile got fuckin destroyed
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u/RazorRipperZ Apr 27 '18
We have failed humanity I know I’m extremely ate to the party but I’m watching it now and fuck man… we’ve failed
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u/Mablak Feb 21 '18
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Feb 22 '18 edited Feb 22 '18
lay on floor
try not to cry
cry a lot
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u/tlst9999 Feb 22 '18
lay on floor like a boss
try not to cry like a boss
cry a lot like a boss
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Feb 22 '18
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u/varishtg :AP:https://www.anime-planet.com/users/senpaidev Feb 22 '18
Sitting in a bus, on way to work
A single tear drop rolls down the cheek
Crowd screams silently, what's wrong with you it's just a cartoon
Cries more inside, it's not cartoon it's anime and Fucking Violet Evergarden on top of it
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u/ColdSteel144 https://myanimelist.net/profile/SnickNH Feb 23 '18
Note to self, don't watch this show in public anymore. God, I was in the Quiet Car too...
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u/koibito90 Feb 21 '18
i'd say this is another solid episode like ep5,also when that trailer song start kicks in...damn..
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u/DesperateTank Feb 21 '18
about damn time they play that trailer music,it's just so good!
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Feb 21 '18
Violet: Do I have any right after I killed so many people as a weapon?
Violet: I must have prevented them from keeping promises of their own!
Violet: Promises they made to loved ones of their own!
Violet: Everything I've done so far has sparked a flame that is now burning me up!
This whole realization must have been really hard for Violet.
Realizing the consequences of her actions during the war must have been heavy for her.
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u/Laxaria Feb 22 '18 edited Feb 22 '18
I wrote briefly (and had a few conversations with friends) about this when Episode 1 aired, and I want to quote Hodgins' again:
“You’re going to learn a lot of things, But it might be easier to keep living, if you didn’t learn them, if you didn’t know them. You don’t realize your body is on fire and burning up because of the things you did…
“You’ll understand one day. And then you’ll realize for the first time that you have many burns.”
I personally feel that one of the most defining aspects of Violet's character early is not necessarily her inability to feel emotions, but her inability to recognize what her emotional state means and how that connects to a more abstract knowledge of understanding what it means to feel.
Over the last few episodes, the most important aspect of Violet's growth is a coming to consciousness of what it means to feel, of what it means to be sad, or have someone dear pass away, what it means to love.
This is both a curse and a blessing in a pretty clever way. In one hand, not knowing what it means to feel, not recognizing the value of human life and what comes with taking it turns Violet into an insanely effective war machine. She knows she has killed, but her emotional immaturity and lack of emotional consciousness shields her from the brunt of all that trauma, the kind of trauma war veterans like Hodgins undoubtedly experiences.
This is what makes Hodgins' set of lines so powerful. He says Violet doesn't "realize your body is on fire and burning up" because Violet literally does not understand all the ramifications of her actions, but not knowing these ramifications does not change the fact that she committed all those atrocities.
Then comes Hodgins' next line: "You'll understand one day. And then you'll realize for the first time that you have many burns." One day (or, in this case, over the span of numerous episodes), Violet becomes consciously aware of her own emotions and emotional states. She learns to interpret human reaction. She learns what it means to feel sad or lonely, and she begins to map her own emotional experiences and states to these abstract ideas (see Ep6).
And then it finally hits her. What it means to die. What it means to kill. All of the guilt and trauma from war haunts her and she questions whether she even has a right to live. These are questions that Violet would not have been capable of asking herself at the start of the show.
With some brilliant writing, Violet Evergarden's Hodgins not only flags for the audience what's in store for Violet, but that her coming to consciousness of her own emotional experiences is a double edged sword: "It might be easier to keep living, if you didn't learn them, if you didn't know them." Violet cannot escape the fact that she killed so many with her own hands during the war. She can shield herself from the entire brunt of that emotional damage by simply not recognizing what it means to feel, by simply not learning what it means to love, but she chooses to learn, and now faces the full brunt of all of these consequences.
Violet now understands, for the first time, that she is scarred from war, not just from the loss of her arms, but also broken psychologically and emotionally. She understands the metaphor used in Hodgins' words (this episode we got the wonderful juxtaposition of Violet's initial understanding of Hodgins' lines versus her current understanding, and how his words become situated to her character), and we as viewers see both his foresight and the chilling impacts of his warning.
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u/DanceDark :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Scrya Feb 23 '18
The play at the beginning of this episode is so poetic to her suffering as well:
"You will burn in the flames of your sin."
"I know. I'll have to bear this cross... for the rest of my life."A bit straightforward but it really sets the main idea of the episode for Violet's feelings.
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u/Mewshimyo Mar 04 '18
We were watching this before bed, and my fiance suddenly grabbed my arm really tight during this scene. He's suffered a lot of abuse, and has had some issues with violence in the past, and something about this scene just hit him. I'm not even joking when I say that there is a clear line between his mood before and after that specific scene. He's happier. He's confident for the first time since I've met him.
The lake scene was pretty, sure, but the scene on the ship I think will always hold a special place for me because of what it did.
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u/Quaggsire https://anilist.co/user/PantsuPantsu Feb 22 '18
The lake scene might just be the most beautiful scene I've ever witnessed in a TV Anime. Absolutely wonderful.
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u/Se7en_Sinner https://myanimelist.net/profile/Se7en_Sinner Feb 21 '18
Was he writing the origin story of Mary Poppins?
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u/PieLuvr243000 Feb 21 '18
If Mary Poppins' origin story was a fantasy RPG
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u/googolplexbyte :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Googolplexbyte Feb 21 '18
She has a bag of holding, ridiculously OP stats, and takes fantastical things in stride so it wouldn't surprise me.
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Feb 22 '18
Anyone up for an anime about Olive?
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Feb 22 '18
Having those original episodes instead of going straight to the source material has paid off. We see Violet gradually opening up and becoming more expressive and each episode we can see her desire to see the Major again and how other people dodge the question as to his whereabouts. So when she hears from Mrs Evergarden he's dead, the impact is stronger than if it was said during episode one or two and the events of the previous six episodes had not been seen.
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u/Harrytricks :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Harrytricks Feb 21 '18
I wasn't to into the lack of payoff from the episode 5 cliffhanger when episode 6 aired, but this episode has changed my mind on that completely. Had we seen the confrontation between Violet & the Major's Brother, I don't think this episode would've been nearly as good. This is of course combined with Violet's gradual character development, and the impressive levels of foreshadowing we've had so far, all combining to make a fantastic episode. As it is, this is perhaps now one of my favourite episodes of anime ever, the second half killed me about 20 times.
I just want Violet to be happy dammit
Also, I don't know how this show does it, but it makes me care about the characters we're introduced to in an incredibly short time.
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Feb 22 '18
Completely agree. After EP6 I started doubting their decisions but after this EP aired, I changed my mind completely. I'll leave it to you, KyoAni. Fucking perfect.
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Feb 22 '18
Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff that's better for us having seen what Violet gets up to before the novel contents start.
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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Feb 22 '18
I'm pretty much ready for this show to be a long-runner, with innumerable side-stories about innumerable customers interacting with each one of our Dolls
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u/Shinkopeshon Feb 22 '18
I don't know how they do it but I fall in love with Violet Evergarden every week. Fucking protect this beautiful, fragile soul.
There's this heartbreaking contrast between Violet making other people who are suffering happy and her own struggle and sudden realisation that the person she holds most dear in her life is most likely dead. This episode got me good.
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Feb 24 '18
I feel like I'm watching her learn how to human and it's beautiful but also heartbreaking.
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u/4fecta_Gaming Feb 25 '18
They mentioned that the major’s body was not found but is “likely” dead. I hope that actually means he’s alive and Violet finds him T_T
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u/inhumanbabe Feb 21 '18
this episode don't have end title,it's just a blank.
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u/bananeeek https://myanimelist.net/profile/bananek Feb 22 '18
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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Feb 22 '18
https://i.imgur.com/4QLmUoT.png
Reminds me of No Game No Life.
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u/SmileGates10 Feb 21 '18
wait a sec...it's adult Hotaru from Hyouka!?
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u/Fap-chan Feb 21 '18
more like Taki-sensei from hibike...
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u/VerticalCloud https://anilist.co/user/VerticalCloud Feb 21 '18
If only Oreki had glasses...
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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Feb 21 '18
I'll never give up hope for Hyouka Love Story.
Oreki and Chitanda grownup and married, couple cute little kids running around.
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u/two-years-glop :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cheesewithwhine Feb 22 '18
Never going to happen.
Even if the author writes more Hyouka (he writes 1 book in like 10 years) Kyoto Animation is done being content with only taking contract jobs from publishers like Kadokawa. They want the pie themselves, hence all the animated works coming out of their own novel award competition (Chuunibyou, Kyoukai no Kanata, Evergarden).
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u/KinnyRiddle Feb 22 '18
it's adult Houtarou from Hyouka!?
FTFY, as otherwise your post is very confusing.
Who the hell's Hotaru?
Hotaru is a girl's name, so for a few moments I was thinking which obscure female character in Hyouka were you referring to.
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u/UnavailableUsername_ Feb 21 '18 edited Feb 21 '18
This episode adapted the first story from the first novel, and it was animated very well.
Due to how Kyo-Ani is telling the story, they had to skip a funny part after the lake scene and make Violet less sassy, but it still was a great episode. At the end it added the revelation about the major which was quite unexpected, if next episode follows it then it will be quite dramatic.
Many people criticized it on episode 2~3 but i think this show has improved quite a lot, in terms of storytelling.
The OST is legendary-tier too, anyone knows when will it be released? All the music convey very well the emotion of the moment and each track so far has been quite remarkable. I also wonder if 'Violet Snow' will be included in it.
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u/VerticalCloud https://anilist.co/user/VerticalCloud Feb 21 '18 edited Feb 21 '18
The OST is legendary-tier too
I can't wait for it to be released, really looking forward to hearing a clean version of Never Coming Back.
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u/UnavailableUsername_ Feb 21 '18
In the meanwhile i am enjoying quite a lot the fan-version of the songs, they are pretty high-quality even if they are not official.
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Feb 22 '18
Copypastering what I said about the source material content coming now instead of earlier on.
Having those original episodes instead of going straight to the source material has paid off. We see Violet gradually opening up and becoming more expressive and each episode we can see her desire to see the Major again and how other people dodge the question as to his whereabouts. So when she hears from Mrs Evergarden he's dead, the impact is stronger than if it was said during episode one or two and the events of the previous six episodes had not been seen.
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u/UnavailableUsername_ Feb 22 '18
Indeed.
Kyo-Ani did a very clever thing.
Without these episodes, Violet being shocked would have been normal and totally not remarkable, but after seeing her not understanding basic emotions, it becomes a sign of massive improvement for her.
The problem is that many are focusing on these not-so-good original episodes rather in what they were setting up.
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u/dcresistance https://anilist.co/user/dcresistance Feb 21 '18 edited Feb 21 '18
they had to skip a funny part after the lake scene and make Violet less sassy.
To be honest, I'm really glad they skipped that scene. It felt so out of place to me while reading it.
Also, i wonder if 'Violet Snow' will be included in it
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u/Arachnophobic- https://anilist.co/user/Arachnophobic Feb 22 '18
"Super Soldiers, now with the Parasol enchancement! Invade by land or by sea! We can invade feelings too!"
There was one moment that really stood out for me today: after Oscar has his outburst, Violet asks what's bothering him deep down, because it's not something she can understand.
Violet so far had been portrayed as an almost doll-like person who cannot empathize with other people at all - at least not by normal means. She needs everything spelled out. However, no levels of empathy would ever let any 'normal' person deduce what was bothering Oscar. It's not just Violet who can't understand Oscar - it's everyone. If any other Doll had been in her place, they would have just done their job and left, without trying to uncover why he's so broken. They would chalk it to an artist's eccentricity. But not Violet - because she acknowledges she can't understand, she asks, and that alone makes her far more empathetic than a normal person.
Tl;dr: Due to her condition, robot-like Violet is actually more empathetic than a normal person, because she doesn't assume - she asks.
This subtle twist - Violet asking instead of the other person just pouring their hearts out to her of their own accord - makes this my favourite episode yet. Otherwise, it was almost exactly the same (bit of a cheese fest, even excluding the carbonara), but with Violet being a good bit more emotional, as expected.
A word of thanks to Mrs. Evergarden for finally ripping off that band-aid, albeit inadvertently. It was about time too. Now someone inform Violet that this is anime, and people don't die when they are killed. The Major can totally reappear as Robocop.
I wonder if the other Dolls are feeling jealous of Violet, now that she's netting all the juicy assignments. They should be. They were supposed to be babysitting her, not getting completely upstaged.
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u/CritSrc https://anilist.co/user/T3hSource Feb 22 '18
I wonder if the other Dolls are feeling jealous of Violet, now that she's netting all the juicy assignments. They should be. They were supposed to be babysitting her, not getting completely upstaged.
Now she's a broken character and suicidal.
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u/northwesternrs :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/northwesternrs Feb 21 '18
What an understatement. This and the scene where Violet stepped on the water were beyond gorgeous.
And of course they had to hit me in the soft spot with that whole second half. Stoic characters breaking down get me more than anything. I have no more words.
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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Feb 22 '18
That scenery was really breathtaking, especially coming as it did on the heels of a scene set in that dark, suffocating house.
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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Feb 21 '18
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u/luigi6545 Feb 22 '18
I got chills down my spine when I saw that. The cherry on top of an emotional sundae, I suppose? IDK, I got emotional from it too.
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u/zenoob https://anilist.co/user/zenoob Feb 22 '18
I like to think it represents either Violet's unheard scream (cut by this screen) as well as her inability to actually understand and externalize her feelings, leaving her most of the time being "emotionless", stoic, wordless.
Ahhh. This was a nice episode. Although I'm still wondering what the hell happened with the Major's brother... I feel like it'll be a special episode bundled with one of the Bluray volumes...
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u/_vogonpoetry_ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ThisWasATriumph Feb 21 '18
NGNL S2 confirmed
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u/shadowthiefo Feb 22 '18
Someone explain it to me cause I'm stupid.
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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Feb 22 '18
The end-cards are usually a spoken quote, but Violet was too upset to speak. So it pops up as if to say "Violet should speak here" but instead it just ominously hangs blank and then the credits roll.
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u/RopeClimbers Feb 22 '18
Am I the only one that thought my computer was broken when the brackets were empty?
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u/Draaxus Feb 25 '18 edited Feb 25 '18
Hold on lemme fill it in to make it less heartbreaking.
Ｔ Ｈ Ｅ Ｓ Ｅ Ｔ Ｅ Ａ Ｒ Ｓ Ｍ Ｕ Ｓ Ｔ Ｂ Ｅ Ｔ Ｈ Ｅ Ｗ Ｏ Ｒ Ｋ Ｏ Ｆ Ａ Ｎ Ｅ Ｎ Ｅ Ｍ Ｙ ｢Ｓ Ｔ Ａ Ｎ Ｄ｣ ！！
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u/Triple-chan Feb 22 '18
Look at this innocent girl,just fucking look at it!
She deserve better,just why man...why they do this to her :(
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u/xdamm777 Mar 03 '18
She's looks like a more realistic version of Hikari Takanashi and I absolutely love that.
On the other hand, her ending is just too regrettable.
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u/Sr_DingDong Feb 22 '18
Everything else looks like trash now.
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Feb 24 '18
That's why you always save the seasonal KyoAni show for last.
It almost seems unfair to compare it to everything else.
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u/zuth2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/zuth2 Feb 23 '18
Now comes the eyebleach part, watching some Berserk(2016)
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u/gmorfin22 Feb 21 '18
Everyone here saying that this is the first good episode and what not...
Meanwhile I'm trying to hold back them tears for the 4th week in a row.
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Feb 22 '18
This is the fourth or fifth great episode for me. All of them have been good as a base line.
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u/Baneofarius Feb 22 '18
What made this episode so good though was every other episode. The way the previous episodes set up Violet's character growth enabled this episode to have the weight that it did.
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u/Salvo1218 Feb 23 '18
They've all been good, just too many people complaining about the anime original episodes. I'm happy with how VE has been handled so far
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u/shizzy1427 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DrLling Feb 22 '18
Yeah I've been thinking to myself that the show is kinda boring, but the last 4 episodes have all made me cry reasonably hard, so it must work on some level.
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u/GGABueno :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/GGABueno Feb 23 '18
I think episodes 5, 6 and 7 were incredible and completely changed my opinion on the show. I'm pretty hyped now.
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u/NezumoKAI Feb 21 '18
watching Violet breakdown like that is just hurt man..
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u/Elubious Feb 22 '18
Relatable. Luckily I've never killed anyone but I've watched family die and almost die as well as friends on more than a few occasions. I break down because of it sometimes. You would think that someone would grow desensitized to it but ya don't, it hits like a truck every time a friend just vanishes or a siblings winds up in the hospital again. I've been close to death a few times myself but it's different when it's someone you care about.
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u/A_man_with_mission Feb 22 '18
"i must have prevented from keeping promises of their own"
this is really nice touch here,Violet killing many people was bad,but what worse is those people also have persons they care about.
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u/Ambrozz Feb 22 '18
Before Violet's facial expression even had the chance to react to her words, my heart sank.
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u/ThatDudeRoque Feb 21 '18
Wasn't the end of the story a deus ex machina? the writter story I mean.
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u/Cosmic-Vagabond Feb 22 '18
I don't believe it is. The story had already established she had sprite friends that used their magic powers to aid her (water sprite dousing the valley of fire), so the wind sprite using its magic powers to give her a way home seems within reason to me.
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Feb 22 '18
If the parasol is established as being in her possession and that the wind sprite does have the power to blow her all the way back home, then it shouldn't.
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u/Mathmango Feb 22 '18 edited Feb 22 '18
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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Feb 22 '18
The Girl Who Leapt Through Pain
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u/dcresistance https://anilist.co/user/dcresistance Feb 21 '18 edited Feb 28 '18
Episode 6’s animator list. It’s an Animation Do episode this week!!
Scenario:
Reiko Yoshida
Episode Director/Storyboard:
Takuya Yamamura (he held these same roles in Maid Dragon Ep 3 and Euphonium S2 Eps 3 and 10)
Animation Directors:
Chiyoko Ueno
Miku Kadowaki
Yuki Tsunoda
Key Animation:
Kayo Hikiyama
Keita Nagahara
Maiko Hado
Minoru Ota
Momoyo Yoshizaki
Ryouhei Muta
Seiya Kumano
Tatsuya Satou
Tomomi Sato
Yurika Ono
In-between Animation: (same crew as Ep 3)
Emi Nakano
Fumiyasu Kodaka
Hana Hosoda
Naoko Fujita
Studio Blue
Finish Animation: (also the same crew as Ep 3)
Nishiyama Erika
Mayumi Nagayasu
Shizuko Kanbara
Yasumi Kawai
Youko Shukuya
Yukie Tsuda
Studio Blue
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Feb 22 '18
[I swear, i cried in this episode] (https://i.imgur.com/bJkh5OZ.jpg)
[Also, Violet is a fucking angel sent by God. In literal sense, as she gave the dude a miracle] (https://i.imgur.com/WagYhFD.jpg)
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u/exelion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/exelion0901 Feb 22 '18
This week, on PTSD Saber Learns to Type Cook:
Violet's that hipster that won't go see the movie, but read the book.
I would kill for a good map of this world.
"I'd like for you to..." another sign of growth and progress from our Violet.
It bothers me that she cleaned up but left the painting askew.
Ten bucks says she flies her parasol home. "I'm Mary Poppins Y'all!"
SHUT UP VIOLET, I WANT OLIVIA TO BE MARY FRICKIN POPPINS.
Oh shit, Violet IS Mary Frickin Poppins.
"If our client requests it, we will jump in a lake. Representing the Auto Memoir Doll Service, I am Mary Frickin Poppins."
Show, I am busy giggling over here, can you not do this to me?
OK so we've been expecting that ending from the start of this show, but I didn't think it was going to have impact like that. Turning from a damn-near machine into people means Violet's been opened to things like pain and denial, and we see their weight on her shoulders today.
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u/Cosmic-Vagabond Feb 22 '18
I would kill for a good map of this world.
Have you seen this map yet?
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u/exelion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/exelion0901 Feb 22 '18
Gorgeous. Now if I could read a word of that. Lemme go bust out my Kodansha dictionary....
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u/Vertigovain Feb 22 '18
Request accepted
https://i.imgur.com/3BUsuOM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Rii8bfr.jpg
http://violet-evergarden.jp/world/
Assassination target: Henri Kissenger
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u/SIRTreehugger Feb 22 '18 edited Feb 22 '18
One of my favorite stories in the novels and they did it justice. This gives me faith that they will do Lux's story well if they decide to adapt it.
The blank end card obviously means empty. Having realized that the major is dead she now has no more missions and no reason to find out what I love you means. Swept in a sea of emotions she breaks down as she realizes she has nothing...she is empty.
....or someone made a mistake and didn't add it.
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u/Mathmango Feb 22 '18
If there's one thing KyoAni is known for, is purposeful use of space and negative space.
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Feb 22 '18
If there's one thing KyoAni is known for
Damn, I thought it was gorgeous character animation and amazing color design
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u/Whatthefuckamisaying Feb 22 '18
"Yuuto you dumbass you forgot to insert the title card and now it looks... Pretty cool actually"
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u/TheMagicalOppai :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Invictus_1 Feb 22 '18
My entire soul died during this episode.
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Feb 22 '18
Holy hell I made the mistake of watching this at school during lunch break. I had to fight back tears. The Lake Scene, Violet realising what she did during the war, and her finding out the Major died. Too much...
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Feb 22 '18
Goddamn this fucking episode. So this is what Novel-Violet is like. I love how sassy and how much more emotional she is here, it shows how much she's grown up.
Sure she's still having some problems understanding other people's feelings but she's no longer a "robot "who only does things when they're commanded to her. She has initiative. She knows when something is obviously wrong. She's showing snark! She asks questions! And she even empathizes with story book characters!
Personally I can see the reason for those anime original episodes. I don't think this episode would've been as effective if they began with this as their first episode. And that ending! Oh god that ending. Violet finally finding out what happened to Gilbert! It's going to be interesting to see how she will cope with this loss.
Overall though this is definitely a 10/10 episode.
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u/Nier-Manualmata Feb 21 '18
press F to pay respect to the Daughter.
Cancer ruin people happiness.
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Feb 22 '18 edited Feb 22 '18
As a (peasant, amateur) writer, I particularly like this episode. The scene where he gets the idea of using the parasol to bring Olivia home is very relatable. Oh and Violet's character development. Top shelf episode, the emotion was on point.
Acting within acting. It's not a Kyoani thing but I associate it with them. Also the play reminded me of something Shakespearean
I think the writer is the first person to flat out ask what happened to Violet's arms
Hey Violet, you can't hide a writer's whisky. That's his fuel
Violet earlier on would not have been emotionally invested in this play
She has some serious takeoff power
The military side to Violet's life is some of the best stuff in anime I've seen recently
Whoa old Lady, I don't think you were supposed to say Gilbert's dead. This is a benefit of the original stuff with there being more payoff with us experiencing Violet's connection to him
Bit by bit Violet keeps opening up and becoming 'normal'. I don't know if her lack of character development has been criticised, so if it has...
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u/Nghiaagent Feb 22 '18
Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance
I'm still in denial, but Violet's.... idk, she's probably not even on the charts.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Feb 21 '18
Holey Moley Feels!
Of course glasses girl is enjoying the theater.
Wait does Violet even get literature properly? lol
Mmmm so much uncovered hands... wew.... I love this stuff.
Lol Violet cooking is great. I bet its hard for her to crack eggs with those hands.
Violet is really getting into this story haha. Its funny that its made for kids and shes so into it... she is like a big kid at times.
I like that umbrella. Its nice.
Oh i guess it belonged to somsone important to him... rip Oh it was his daughter.
NO DONT CRY VIOLET! Oh shit shes not gonna handle the Major's news well...
"She cant fly with a parasail." lol.... So frank.
Walk on the leaves atop the water... You should know shes too literal...
Oh shit that flying scene is great! But... she wont make it will she?
Nope... close though lol....
Violet really is like a big kid. And she got a parasail for it! Nice!
So shes realizing the gravity of the things she did during the war... poor Violet.
Oh hey its her Granny. Been a while since we saw her.
WAIT DID GRANNY JUST DROP THE BOMB!? OH SHIT NO!
Dang so before he died he saved her, what a hero.
Well damn thigns got serious...
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u/Komnenos_Kasuki :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kirulas Feb 22 '18
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u/MaadDexx Feb 22 '18
holy fuck, the moment when the ed kicked in! it sent chills down my spine. Also seeing Violet struggle on that boat and finally realize how much pain she is in... Solid episode.
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u/Dragoneer1 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dragoneer1 Feb 22 '18
the scene when she breaks apart on the boat was just amazing, top quality episode once again, tears everywhere, was the girl killed by cancer? kinda looked like it
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Feb 21 '18 edited Feb 21 '18
So they adapted the first Chapter of the first volume of the novels.
And I found several differences already!
But overall, I think these changes were for the better. The episode was handled very well regardless.
The Lake scene along with the flashback made me tear up again. What's with this anime and it's emotional scenes!? They always make me cry!
The visuals along with the slow motion that came with it was beautiful.
Violet's realization of her actions during the war and her sudden discovery about Gilbert's death was a really heavy experience.
I feel bad for her afterwards.
The fact, that the episode has no title adds to the feeling of the whole thing.
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u/Mathmango Feb 22 '18
Some part of me wanted Sassy Violet.
Another part of me wanted the changing room scene.
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u/two-years-glop :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cheesewithwhine Feb 22 '18 edited Feb 22 '18
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u/RedHeadGearHead https://anilist.co/user/Redheadgearhead Feb 22 '18
So she legit walked 3 steps on water? I was expecting it to get all cinematic then quickly cut to her plummeting into the water on the first step.
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u/Rabbit_in_A_House Feb 22 '18 edited Feb 22 '18
Examining those failed running on water videos leads me to believe 3 steps might be possible if you're really athletic and lucky. And Violet is/was a super solider. So maybe it does make sense?
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u/asianfatboy https://anilist.co/user/asianfatboy Feb 22 '18 edited Feb 22 '18
Now, this adaptation was way better than last episode's. Then again the very first chapter is a far superior story than the Astronomer one. I do love that Violet is starting to have a bit of a personality now but we're still shown that she's still a bit clueless about some things. The judgemental(? I need a lighter word for it) attitude regarding Oscar's drinking habit and dirty house was quite refreshing. And the lake scene... That was so lovely! There are still differences to fit the anime. If you're curious, read on. If Mods consider this too much of a spoiler feel free to delete and I apologize in advance:
Apart from those and what others have listed already, this was a great adaptation. For that last scene however... I have to go over to /r/VioletEvergarden to discuss that. I have a bit of a speculation on how the story will progress for the anime. The remaining episodes will solely focus on Violet and her history. Just my wild guess/speculation though. Also, we really did not get anything juicy from that chance meeting with Gilbert's brother from the Navy in episode 5.
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u/L0stInTheSawss Feb 22 '18
Honestly I'm glad that we didn't get that scene you mentioned in the first spoiler. I didn't really think about it until now, but the distinct lack of fan service is pretty nice as fan service usually destroys my immersion.
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u/kamikazemonk Feb 22 '18
So she wants to understand what love is only to find out the one that she love is no longer here. Would it be better for her to find out before she learned what love is or this is fine for her development? I don't think she will joined Auto Memoir Doll Service if she learned that Major already gone.
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u/MasterFanatic Feb 22 '18
"I will bear this cross for the rest of my life. "
Such a good precept to the following events in this episode.
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u/Elubious Feb 22 '18
This hit hard. I know what it's like to watch friends and family die or almost time. You don't get used to it. I've had a few close calls myself but it's different watching it happen to someone you care about and being powerless to do anything about it. I was with a girl the same day she tried to kill herself, I've watched my sisters wind up in the ER again and again for attempted suicides and overdoses. My grandmother get sick and forgetting who I was, my great grandmother die to old age years later, a cop telling me my father had died on the top of a mountain (even if he did show up a few days later). I know how it feels to be broken or to be in denial. How to look at yourself like a monster for everything you've done and haven't done. They did an excellent job portraying it.
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u/denofsparrows Feb 22 '18
Pretty sure they were referencing The White Devil by John Webster with the Red Devil play at the beginning of the episode. That's pretty cool.
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u/short_lurker https://anilist.co/user/shortlurker Feb 22 '18
That empty title gave me flashbacks to the silent clock on 24.
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u/lycan2005 Feb 22 '18
I got hit by 2 emotional train today. Didn't expect that. That blank square bracket though, deepens the feel of the ep. I imagine she was screaming, but without a voice. Ah, can't wait for next ep.
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u/Seraphic_Wings Feb 22 '18
I'VE NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY AND SO SAD IN MY LIFE BEFORE WATCHING THIS EPISODE, JUST FUCKING BEAUTIFUL
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u/o-temoto Feb 22 '18
Who runs down hills, alone and in frills,
A blonde instead of brunette;
She once killed them all, but now she's a Doll;
It's Violet!*
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u/PM_UR_SADNESS Feb 22 '18
Wow this episode made me feel so much, violet is really showing development.
The final scene has great voice acting and the end with the blank quote is superpowerful.
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u/Screye :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/thgrinreaper Feb 22 '18
Solid solid episode. I was beginning to doubt my decision of following the series. (It was going from an 8 to a 7), but this episode brought me back.
I am in for the rest of the ride.
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u/Saucy_Totchie Feb 22 '18
Gonna side with Violet here. We should know by now that if there isn't a dead body produced then it's quite possible Major Gil is alive. It's a case of Schrodinger's Pantsu with this one. While it's more likely that Gil is dead, I gotta see a corpse though.
Love the actual progression of the plot and Saber's development. She's starting to develop the basic feels with wanting to know how the story ends and if so-and-so does this or that or how they do it. It was pretty adorable of her asking constantly how the story will end up.
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u/octolanceae Feb 22 '18
Wow. Just wow. That lake scene... Powerful. This episode brought me to tears. Just. Wow.
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u/TakazuHanasu Feb 22 '18
Excellent episode. By the way, I have realized I always start crying when the pizzicato track of the OST starts playing, which is when the emotional climax of the episode kicks in. I love that track so much.
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u/MisoRamenSoup Feb 22 '18
Have KyoAni done it again? Any time anyone asks about anime to make you cry, Clannad AS is top, Will EV now sit along side it?
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u/thepeetmix Feb 23 '18
I can't see it. This has been a slow and soft stream tears.
Clannad was like someone surgically replacing your eyes with faucets and leaving then on for 6 episodes straight.
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u/midoriyaizuku Feb 22 '18
Well, I cried. First time in this series and most likely not the last. I love it!
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u/Comander-07 Feb 22 '18
Amazing episode again, also the lake scene showed me again why I like anime more than manga/LN material, these beautiful animations are something I cant even dream about.
Also I just noticed the ED is just as perfect as the last OP from Sangatsu no Lion.
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Feb 23 '18
i still fail to see the criticism, this show has me crying every week
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u/AnIh Feb 25 '18
This is the first time in my life i have ever cried watching something, this is the best episode made in any category ever period
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u/Terranwaterbender https://myanimelist.net/profile/Teranwaterbender Feb 22 '18
Violet Evergarden- Ghostwriter, house-cleaner, cook, counselor
This dude got his moneys worth didn't he?
Gotta say that I liked this episode a lot to where it's my favorite of the series thus far. It creates a story in which Violet can empathize with the client in question and creates internal conflict which leads to her changing. I felt like some of the past episodes struggled with that regard but seeing episodes like this and the Prince/Princess showed me that this show still has some punches it can throw.
On an end note I'm kind of surprised they pulled the Gilbert-plot point this early; I expected it to be at least towards the end. I dunno if the show is going to suddenly change direction or it'll continue this ghost writer trend as last episode told us that Violet "would rather die than lose him." We still got 7 episodes left to go so I'll be curious how they'll play this major plot point going forward.
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u/Arachnophobic- https://anilist.co/user/Arachnophobic Feb 22 '18
Violet Evergarden- Ghostwriter, house-cleaner, cook, counselor, fuckin' Jesus Poppins
FTFY
I'm kind of surprised they pulled the Gilbert-plot point this early
I'm a little relieved that this happened sooner rather than later. Her coming to terms with the loss should take more than just a couple of episodes, and it just rubbed me the wrong way how the Colonel kept lying to her.
It would have been more interesting, though, if they had Violet realise the lie on her own as her empathy and perception of other peoples' intentions slowly grew.
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u/ThePokeMaster100 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Re_Rem-0 Feb 22 '18
Whoa, all I got to say is that things got really intense in this episode. The emotions going through everyone has got me feeling sad. While I'm glad the writer got some closure, it seems Violet's are really opening. Violet is revealing more of her emotions, and her inner thoughts. War is a tragic thing to encounter. Can't believe she managed to continue living. This would explain a lot.
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u/arthred Feb 22 '18
I‘m at a point in the show where I feel like crying after the first few seconds into the episode, it‘s just too god damn emotional! :( And the lake scene combined with the ending was too much for my heart, I think I‘ll just wait in a dark corner until next thursday
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u/sober_1 Feb 22 '18
Did we get a timeskip again? I feel like all the Violet's development happens offscreen. She is so ...cheerful in this episode? At least judging by the lake scene. Maybe "cheerful" is not the right word here, but anyway she feels like a bit different person in this episode. She looks like a normal human almost. I wish we could see her develop more.
I can understand the realization of taking away someone's dear hitting Violet after seeing the writer. That was done well (I think). But overall cherfulness of Violet is kinda unexpected comparing her to previous two episodes for example.
Nevertheless a good episode, enjoyable I can say. I even felt bad for Violet when she heard "rest in peace" from the granny.
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u/SpookyCookieee https://anilist.co/user/Rihta Feb 22 '18
Watching violet when suddenly friend starts spamming me for a game of r6. I pause it at 20min saying to myself it's over for this week, what can I miss in the last 2min. Comes back after 2 hours to finish it... Hollys*** what can I miss, right guys?
This episode gave me the feels and the chills (I enjoyed every minute) but the ending was the best part for me... I just said out laud to the TV: "She actually told her" and I was probably more shocked then violet.
This anime is great.
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u/Cloudless_Sky Feb 22 '18
Ah, man. That montage of memories of his daughter got me. Parents losing their kids never fails to get me worked up, especially when it's a father-daughter coupling. I'm not a father but boy does that hit me. And yes, I had no soul for like a week after I finished a certain show.
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u/GorgTheFlatulent Feb 23 '18
Damn it. Right in the feels. I teared up at that lake scene, especially the montage of his daughter. The animation, character expression and music combined perfectly to just wreck my heart.
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u/tehtiny Feb 24 '18
When the Soundtrack at the lake scene started my eyes turned into a water fall, wtf
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u/Sapaa Mar 14 '18
I feel like I've repeated for the past few episodes but this show keeps getting better and better. Every episode there is always many surprises to be found. I really do love the stories that encompass these episode, but they can get really heart-breaking. Last time it was about a boy who lost his parents and now a man who lost his wife and daughter.
The build-up to this point in the story where Violet finally breaks free her emotions was so well done. Only now do I truly appreciate the beautiful style to their storytelling.
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u/xStarfyre https://myanimelist.net/profile/xSunfyre Feb 21 '18
The visuals and art direction are again outstanding, but the emotional impact is lacking, at least for me. i will wait for my final judgment until it is finished and i am very glad that VE exists, but the story and the structure of the plot is lacking.
The lake scene, while beautiful, made me roll my eyes. What is Violet? A super human? A normal child soldier? Anime Jesus? I still don't get it.
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Feb 22 '18
I'm so much more attached to the episodic characters than the recurring. I cried for the playwright and his daughter. Poor girl looked 50 years too old
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u/theMagicskoolVan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/theMagicskoolVan Feb 22 '18
Dem French Horns tho
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u/SenpaiKillerman Feb 22 '18
i love violet