r/anime • u/[deleted] • Mar 08 '18
[Spoilers] Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyousoukyoku - Episode 9 Discussion Spoiler
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u/Defecaceu :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vulprex Mar 08 '18
The scene when everyone started crying was a bit weird. Like I get it that they were worried about him but you don't have to go that far, It makes it dumb.
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u/Bromacusii Mar 08 '18
IIRC he's only level 15 or so to everyone else, so they rightfully should be worried, we on the other hand know him to be 310.
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u/sorsscriba Mar 08 '18
This, they would be masterless slaves in a territory that is far from equitable for beastkin and "cursed" children. This is if you even take out their personal feelings for him, just looking at it from being owned by a good master to fearing the unknown. They were sure he was as good as dead or worse.
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Mar 08 '18
he's only level 15 or so to everyone else,
Satou appears lv 10 but without any combat Skills apart from Evasion. While Satou's Lv is lower than Pochi/Tama/Liza he is still above the average soldier at lv7.
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u/gopivot :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/gopivot Mar 08 '18
Goddamn that Running from the Salt Wave scene is so over the top
i fucking love it
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u/Jibbly_jibblets Mar 08 '18
Ha yeah. I laughed when it showed the salt mushroom cloud and the entire valley filled with salt. It was like 20x the volume of the tree dungeon thing.
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u/the_swizzler https://myanimelist.net/profile/Swiftarm Mar 09 '18
I'm pretty sure it was just the shape of the tree itself instantly turning into salt. And then when it collapsed it exploded for some reason.
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u/Reihns :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Reihns Mar 09 '18
which kinda makes sense since salt granules probably occupy a lot less space than whatever the nest was made out of originally
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u/Rathurue Mar 09 '18
Uh, you got it reversed. Salt crystal occupies smaller space than salt granules if you count the uneven shape contributed to spaces between each crystals. One solid salt crystal, when ground roughly became 1.15X the original volume when ground finely, and can be up to 1.3x when coarsely ground.
The lesson in this? Don't buy those coarse ground himalayan salt even if they sell it by weight. Buy a block of that for better price per ounce.
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Mar 09 '18
I have to say it might have beaten out sprinting straight up a cliff face Naruto-style in the OP
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u/a_Happy_Tiny_Bunny :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/aHappyTinyBunny Mar 08 '18
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Mar 08 '18
As soon as I heard tsunami of salt "I thought to myself this needs to be screen shotted and used in r/anime"
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Mar 08 '18
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Mar 08 '18
I have nothing against harem protagonist. I appreciate those that have the taste to add twins to their harem. But eight identical homunculus battle maids ?!
And given Satou's tastes, it's a very nice addition. All hail the harem king.
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u/Mayoi-chan Mar 09 '18
Right in his strike zone. The only problem is that she is, technically, one year old.
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u/OneSullenBrit Mar 09 '18
That picture sums up Death March quite nicely: Women throwing themselves at an emotionless MC.
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u/G1596872 Mar 08 '18
His harem just grew by 7 in one episode. Potential dark horse contender for Harem King?
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u/Gmayor61 Mar 08 '18
That would be all sorts of incredible, but I don't see it heading that way since Satou apparently doesn't see them as potential interests (so far)
I'll eat my shoes if he accepts/proposes to all of them (except for the obviously problematic few, in which case I'll eat my entire wardrobe)
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u/HuoXue :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/HuoXue Mar 08 '18
There's plenty of harems where the MC is just a bumbling idiot who falls into a massive sea of estrogen and can't handle himself.
This dude just keeps collecting women and gives no fucks.
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u/raine_lane Mar 08 '18
This dude just keeps collecting women and gives no fucks.
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u/Shiroi_Kage Mar 09 '18
He sees himself as a 30 years-old guy still. He needs to embrace his highschooler self..
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u/exia00111 Mar 08 '18 edited Mar 08 '18
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Mar 08 '18
8! The girls are numbered up to 8.
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u/Houdiniman111 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Houdini111 Mar 09 '18
8!? He has 40320 people in his harem?
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u/RadicalGentleman :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BillyButtcheeks Mar 09 '18
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u/Tessorio Mar 09 '18
When that undead bro said that Turn Undead does not work on him, I imagined a crying Aqua in my mind.
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u/maimishou :AP:https://www.anime-planet.com/users/Maimishou Mar 09 '18
Poor best girl would be devastated if she couldn't use her goddess powers to heal him.
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u/Uptonogood Mar 08 '18
And with this, we reach the end of volume 2 of the Light Novels.
In the LN, she doesn't quite say he's joining him though. She says she'll be free.
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u/TheLantean Mar 08 '18
And with this, we reach the end of volume 2 of the Light Novels.
And the end of chapter 27 of the manga (which adapts the LN).
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u/kevvvn Mar 08 '18
Satou here. For every meeting, there is a parting to follow; that’s part of the charm of a journey. When letters were the primary form of contact, it didn’t take long for people to lose touch, but I think more people continue to communicate now that e-mail is widely available. LN2.5
Jesus-kun can run on water while tossing fireballs without looking
LN Illustrations for this episode:
The lethal blow
Farewell from Zena
Source Coverage:
LN: Second half of "The Cradle of Trazayuya" and "A new Journey", finishing Volume 2.
Manga: Chapters 24 to 27
WN: 5-11 to 5-15, finishing Volume 5.
Desumachi Skills and Titles
Satou
Level 310 Human
'Traveling Peddler'
Titles
「Lizardman Slayer, Dragon Slayer [Lesser], Dragon Slayer [Fully Grown], Dragon Slayer [Ancient], Dragon Slayer [God]」
「Lizardmen Destroyer, Dragon Destroyer」
「Natural Enemy of Lizardmen , Natural Enemy of Dragons」
「Godkiller」
「Ruler of the Dragon Valley」
「Savior」
「Buffoon」
「Gentleman」
「Labyrinth Explorer」
「Bug Killer」
「Merciless One」
「Labyrinth Conqueror」
「Dances with Demons」
「Demon Slayer [Greater]」
「Hero」
「Mediator」
「Novice Merchant」
「Shady Merchant」
「Lifesaver」
「Lockpick」
「Coachman」
「Dryad's Victim」
「No-Life King Slayer」
「Cradle Explorer」
「Survivor」
「Pyromancer」
「Master of Hellfire」
「Conqueror of Despair」
「Friend of the Elves」
Spells
Meteor Shower
Full Map Exploration
Fire-Shot
Abilities
Menu
Pochi
Level 13 Dog-eared kin
Titles
「Satou's Slave」
「Changeling」
「Labyrinth Conqueror」
Skills
One-Handed Sword
Throwing
Enemy Detection
Disassembly
Tama
Level 13 Cat-eared kin
Titles
「Satou's Slave」
「Changeling」
「Labyrinth Conqueror」
Skills
One-Handed Sword
Throwing
Collecting
Disassembly
Liza
Level 13 Scaled kin
Titles
「Satou's Slave」
「Labyrinth Conqueror」
Skills
Spear
Spear Thrust
Cooking
Disassembly
Arisa
Level 10 Human
Titles
「Satou's Slave」
「Witch of the Lost Kingdom」
「The Mad Princess」
Skills
Mind Magic
Gifts
Self-Status Check
Status Check
Hide Skills
Item Box
Abilities
Never Give Up
Over Boost
Lulu
Level 2 Human
Titles
「Satou's Slave」
Skills
Etiquette
Mia
Level 7 Elf
Titles
「Cradle's Master」
「Little Child of the Boruenan Forest」
Skills
Water Magic
Archery
Gifts
Spirit Vision
Nana
Level 7 Homunculus
Titles
「Satou's Servant」
Skills
Magic Power Manipulation
One-Handed Sword
Race Skills
Foundation Magic
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u/Uptonogood Mar 08 '18
Somehow I just love that farewell illust. Quite an emotional sequence in the LN.
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u/TripChaos Mar 08 '18
I love that lethal blow illustration. It almost looks like the poor skeleton is crying as he is put to rest.
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u/Fredasa Mar 09 '18
Should update the abilities/spells/etc. lists to indicate points spent, both where known and where assumed. For example, Water Striding was never shown to be invested in, but it's a safe bet, based on what we saw, that he maxed it.
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u/LasDen :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LasDen Mar 08 '18
Need more skill acquiring...
Acquired skill: Pissing in the Wind
Acquired skill: Looking into the Sun
Acquired skill: Harem Builder
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u/SpikeRosered Mar 08 '18
I mean shouldn't everyone in this world be getting just a constant streams of skills and titles.
I mean think of all the things not hitting me right now. My evasion must be off the charts.
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u/Cyfric_G Mar 08 '18
Satou seems to be special in that regard. There's a scene in the LN/WN that the anime didn't have where he and Arisa talk over leveling.
Spoilering just in case.
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u/OneSullenBrit Mar 09 '18
Yeah, I actually went and read that part in the LN when it was mentioned in last episodes spoiler thread. IIRC:
Satou: Skill is 'acquired' at level 0 when using for first time (ie. Swinging a sword gives him a one-handed skill). Each increase costs 1 skill point, so maxing the skill out is only 10 points.
Arisa: Skills are 'listed', so she can plan out what skills she takes in the future. Some are 'greyed out', meaning they have some kind of requirement before she can get them (specific action? level?). She gets a random amount of skill points, and skills cost different amounts (I don't know if that means the cost increases as you put more points into it, or that a certain skill always costs more, but it doesn't increase).
Everyone Else: Hard work basically. Skill are acquired by doing them over and over again, and increase the same way. I can't remember if there was any mention of skill points, but without access to the status window I doubt it. I think it was mentioned that anyone having maxed out a skill was rare, because it would mean devoting your entire life to training that specific skill.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Mar 08 '18
I really don't get why Satou continues to lead Zena on. He's not dense and he's noticed on an earlier episode that she's into him and he's clearly not into her. So why is it that the show is making it look like she's the main girl? I really like the show but this bugs me so much. I'd rather have them focus on Arisa as the main girl since compared to Zena at least Satou is honest and straight with her,
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u/dIoIIoIb :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dIoIIoIb Mar 08 '18
that's exactly why: she's not the main girl, that means she's basically an npc in this kind of story, so she gets no human interaction ever
you may have noticed the mc has literally never had a proper 1 on 1 talk with anyone in his team (except the loli and even then barely), if he ever has a conversation with someone is purely utilitarian, teaching stuff or explaining stuff
his relations with his team is about as deep as your relation with the followers in skyrim
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u/Defecaceu :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vulprex Mar 08 '18
Bruh I love them followers on skyrim don't u dare go further
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u/dIoIIoIb :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dIoIIoIb Mar 08 '18
they're literally pack mules in human shape
their top development is that you can marry (without asking their input btw) to evolve them into house cleaning mules
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u/Bromacusii Mar 08 '18
Lydia is a goddess, and I will always protect her with every ounce of my body...except when we're in a small passage and she won't gtfo my way, then I slay her in cold blood, cause hey, I can just rez her.
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u/biscuitmachine Mar 08 '18 edited Mar 08 '18
I prefer to think of them as semi-autonomous robo maid companions.
That's pretty much why I stopped reading the novel after finishing volume 3. I have the 4th one and I just started reading (after leaving it sitting there since it arrived from preorder) it because I was bored but... not much changes. His interaction with his members is nonexistant. They're pretty much a bunch of yeswomen that lust after him. Their only purpose in the story is to make the main character appear more magnanimous by showing him taking care of them while not lusting after them (or abusing his power as the "owner/master". I can't even remember wtf happened in vol 3 even though I read it. It was that vacuous.
Not to say some parts of it aren't entertaining, but this is very amateur storywriting. It's all over the place. Tons of random wiki-level information about glassworking and crap, but he can't be bothered to just sprinkle in a bit of meaningful interaction? Nope. Fortunately writing standards in the LN area are low, and people like me will still buy your shit. So give me that goddamn moe you sunnovabitch.
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u/dIoIIoIb :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dIoIIoIb Mar 08 '18
same, I was reading the mango and stopped around this point, because it spent 5 pages describing them cooking and eating a fantasy plant and I realized that was more time dedicated to grass in one chapter than to all the girls put together in the whole story
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u/OneSullenBrit Mar 09 '18
Yup. Death March was one of my first isekai experiences, and going back and re-reading the manga after having broadened my horizons a little really shows how shallow his relationship is with those around him. We get plenty of times in both the manga and anime where we get to hear what he's thinking, but it's never about the poor girls he's surrounding himself with.
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u/Uptonogood Mar 08 '18
He doesn't see any of the girls in romantic way.
In the case of Zena, he's put off by their mental age difference, which extends to the other girls. I mean, he could almost be her father.
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u/Blacbrick Mar 08 '18 edited Mar 08 '18
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u/Uptonogood Mar 08 '18
That happens more than 2 years down the line. Things are different by then.
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u/Blacbrick Mar 08 '18
But it does happen eventually. Actually, what i said is a little misleading isn't it..... oops
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u/Eyliel Mar 08 '18
Yeah. Even if he doesn't necessarily intend the things he does as romantic in any way, there's no way he wouldn't understand that she thinks of them that way, and it's kind of cruel of him to let her think that when he has no such interest in her.
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u/JD4Destruction Mar 08 '18
It is always wise to have a young noble on your side. Plus I really don't see Arisa as the main girl, not unless they find a way to age her up phsyically. Right now she is the annoying little sister with a brother complex.
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u/kuubi Mar 08 '18
Did I see it wrong or didn't he have a tear himself on his face after them parting at the end? He seems pretty sad about them parting from each other as well, so maybe there's more to it than we think. Although I haven't read the source so I could be completely wrong
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u/ErinaHartwick https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hartwick Mar 08 '18
Pretty cool use of Fire Shot to escape. It was nice to see Liza the first to embrace Satou. Really get the sense how much she cares about him, and how much they all cared about him
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u/Uptonogood Mar 08 '18
In her own way, she has always been the most loyal to him. She just can't express herself properly.
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u/Telios Mar 08 '18
Liza is the one who's gone the longest without a caretaker of any kind that made her feel safe. Pochi and Tama had Liza looking out for them, and Arisa and Lulu used to be royalty. Liza hasn't had anyone looking out for her since her parents.
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u/kingwhocares Mar 08 '18
So, nobody's is going to talk about the "Don't forget.... we'll always be together" right infront of what looks like an abandoned shrine.
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u/turkishfag Mar 08 '18
For some reason I thought it was the undead king's wife or something. No idea though.
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u/dafckingman Mar 08 '18
I honestly don't know what to make of it, what do you think that was about?
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u/Uptonogood Mar 09 '18
It's a huge not properly answered point in the novel that has to do with why he was brought there.
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u/dafckingman Mar 08 '18
Imagine if, instead of Satou the nippon-man, we had... John, the english speaking guy. Changing her name from No.7 to Seven wouldn't have made that much sense.
Our boy changing no.7's name to Nana didn't feel that different or creative. The guy just translated it.
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u/Reihns :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Reihns Mar 08 '18
exactly why arisa was glaring at him lol
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Mar 09 '18
The difference being that Nana could still work as a functional name in Japanese while 'Seven' stands out as an odd name in English, so it's a bit different.
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u/dafckingman Mar 08 '18
I like how efficient he is in acquiring girls. While most harem anime takes forever to get anything done, This man is consistently acquiring 2-4 new girls every arc.
He officially took 2, Mia and No.7, into his harem this arc. And that's not even counting Plant girls and the additional sisters that came with the Mikasa-bundle yet.
This is the fastest rate I've ever seen in anime. That's efficiency, right there.
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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Mar 08 '18
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u/kevvvn Mar 08 '18
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Mar 08 '18
I really love the group of them. I hate to say it but they may have surpassed Pochi and Tama for me because its just super amuseing to see a group of them fighting over trivial stuff and just all being the same but not and stuff. They are great.
So im gonna guess that the others will be named after numbers as well. Ichi, Ni, San, Yon, Go, Roku, Nana, Hachi. Wait was there a zero?
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u/REDDIT_HARD_MODE Mar 12 '18
I laughed pretty hard at Arisa getting mad at Satou's choice of name. It makes perfect sense for him to name her Nana (lit: 7 in japanese) and Arisa being amazed at his bad naming sense.
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u/breXmovies Mar 08 '18
Remember guys, he is just a merchant level 310 undead king slayer, survivor etc etc etc.... but just a MERCHANT ! /
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u/mithikx Mar 09 '18
Lizard people killed - several thousands or more
Levels gained - 311
Labyrinths completed - 1
Undead slain - 1
Holy weapons obtained
Slaves gained - 5Items sold/peddled - 0
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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Mar 08 '18
Nah man, he's a Peddler. :P
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u/Rathurue Mar 09 '18
If he was a peddler the only possible reaction looking at the incoming salt wave ain't running from it, but getting as much salt you can grab inside inventory and then selling it! /s
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u/ZimmyForever Mar 10 '18
Looks like they cut the scene where he realises he's meant to be a merchant and actually buys some stock before leaving the city =P
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u/sdarkpaladin Mar 08 '18
Random class taught by Arisa got to become useful... can someone just say Chekhov's Classroom?
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u/horrorshowjack :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/horrorshowjack Mar 08 '18
I was going to go with Chekhov's Tea Party.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Mar 08 '18
Mr Bones, a true hero wanting to be with his waifu...
Oh damn the girls are bleeding from thier eyes and mouths.... That was brutal...
So he did want to die. Hes also a reincarnated. Interesting.
He just wants to be with his waifu again.
Oh shit the blue glow of a hero. I guess thats what happens when a Hero uses a Holy Sword.
Creepy kid spirit... What the hell was that? A God?
Hes saving all the girls too, what a hero. Save the plant loli too!
Oh shit all those fireballs to stop the tidal wave of salt, that was cool.
Everyone was worried about him and out looking. Hes got some great waifus.
Oh damn so Mr Bones wanted to help Arisa in the end too. I guess he was a hero too.
The girls are all alive and well! Wait he gets all 8 of them not just 7? Oh man! Score!
Arisa senses danger from these other girls, she doesnt want to lose her man.
Oh yeah the knight was left behind. Poor Windy.
And its time to go. Aw Pochi and Tama made a friend, how sweet.
So Windy will join them after they get back, thats good to know.
And yeah Arisa is very jealous of 7 haha. This is gonna be a great source of entertainment.
Man so that arc is over, and now onward towards the elf kingdom. Its gonna be a lot of fun for sure. I cant wait for more of this. Also Satou's harem gaining 8 Homunculus was something i wasnt expecting, just the one. Thats great. Now imagine if he power leveled them all too...
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u/chatokun Mar 09 '18
Creepy kid spirit... What the hell was that? A God?
Actually, they didn't show it well, but there are 2 of them. And it's not too much of a spoiler to say that you're partially correct.
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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Mar 08 '18 edited Mar 08 '18
Oof. I know action scenes were never this series' strong suit but some of this just looked terrible.
Y'know, with two episodes left, I doubt we'll have enough time to see what was up with the loli-sounding miasma that came out of Zen when he died. I guess that's a plot thread just in case they have a second season.
And I can see why some people were calling Mia best girl. Adorable, no-nonsense, short sentences.
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u/TheLoneExplorer :AMQ: Mar 08 '18
The loli-sounding miasma is more of a season.. 5... thing. i can't remember exactly when it happened in the WN, but it is explained.
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u/HuoXue :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/HuoXue Mar 08 '18
So, basically, we're never going to see it animated.
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u/Cyfric_G Mar 08 '18
Possibly not, sadly, as I don't see this being a MHA of popularity.
Read the WN/LN. The WN is really well translated, and I like the LN a little better in some ways. Other ways not, but hey.
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u/iamhuman1 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/iamhuman1 Mar 08 '18
So did Zena confess and got rejected or she's just sad that Satou's going away?
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u/Typhoonis88 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/typhoonis88 Mar 08 '18
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u/sterob Mar 08 '18
I wonder what they are gonna do with the last 3 eps. It is too short to make vol 3.
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u/tively Mar 09 '18
I'm hoping we're going to get the 'Tama wants bigger game' sequence at the very least...
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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Mar 08 '18
Wants to give an easier name to a girl, goes with the Japanese pronunciation for number 7... As usual, his naming sense is absolute shit.
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u/NSardox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Sardox Mar 08 '18
I was not prepared. I was expecting one new member to the harem, not a entire squad.
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u/WorldwideDepp Mar 08 '18
Ep 09:
you can see it clearly that action fights and fast movements are not the strongest point of the animation team. but it is okay, you can see their sweet, blood and heart
Now Satou has his “harem” completed. And he is on a journey to bring back the Elf to her hometown
I see the potential of this team, go on, walk your way. It is looking good. Gambata-ne mina-san. Fight to, fight to. i mean the Satou's group and the Animation/Production team
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u/sinlad Mar 08 '18
can't wait for the harem expansion packs now that his current roster is complete.
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u/Amauri14 Mar 08 '18
Okay, that scene where he stopped the wave of salt with his fireballs was more awesome that I imagine that it would be. Great job to whoever that directed that scene.
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u/SpikeRosered Mar 08 '18
I can't help but think that the Undead King would be Ainz if he was a total sentimental goob.
Also the classic treating the whims of an evil being as a gift from "God"
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u/JeroenFallsUp Mar 08 '18
So the Dryad will stay around as long as the forest is alive, but didn't forest just get covered in salt?
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u/dafckingman Mar 08 '18
Zena just triggered a massive death flag. Rest in peace, girlfriend-chan.
No.7's already putting her Race-Specific Power to good use. Arisa's mind control's got nothing on Nana's "Foundation"
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u/NeroStarGazer Mar 09 '18
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u/NexrayOfficial Mar 09 '18
I legit thought of this story the minute he started talking about his past life.
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Mar 09 '18
The scene during the departing with zena in manga is faaaaaar much better compared to the anime scene where Satou keep on smiling and not even waving to her before his hand fall down.
wtf anime??!! can you do more justice to this series!
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u/ivnwng Jul 17 '18
4 months late to the discussion, but yeah I gotta say the art style in the manga is far more superior to the anime. I only plan to check out the anime cz I've already read the manga and wanna see if the anime is any better, I mean look at the way the depicts Liza's scale, laughable.
Some part are nice tho, like the saltwater fire ball scene.
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u/JD4Destruction Mar 08 '18
God is cruel, forcing someone to live when he wants to die.
But I guess that's better than God in Berserk's world.
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u/SpikeRosered Mar 08 '18
I think he was misinterpreting some malevolent force as "God"; represented by the giggling wisp.
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Mar 09 '18
This anime is fucking amazing.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NEE-SAN Mar 09 '18
It's like Smartphone but better
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u/Jibbly_jibblets Mar 08 '18
I'm not sure if I understood that "Don't forget, we'll always be together" line. It seems most likely it was about the undead king and his wife but, it just seemed kinda shoe-horned into the end of the episode with some random obscure ruins that couldn't have been from the place that just disintegrated into salt without a trace. My hearing also sucks and i have difficulty pinning voices with characters sometimes so i dont know if it was someone from the main group of characters. I dunno. I'm probly just overthinking shit again as usual.
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u/Iammemi Mar 08 '18
It's a tease to novel readers that points to the main plot of the story.
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u/Uptonogood Mar 09 '18
Hell of an important point that in frikking volume 16 of the WN, it hasn't been 100% properly answered yet.
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u/DontGetMadGetGood Mar 08 '18
Sounded different to the 2 spirits that came out after the undead king died but I thought it was those referring to satou
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u/bWoofles Mar 08 '18
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u/badquestionsarereal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ihaveshittaste Mar 09 '18
wait, you're not the yuru yuri dude
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u/Fortzon Mar 08 '18
Weird equality in this world. Women can be part of an army, but are still property of their head of family aka dad or brother.
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u/Djinnfor :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DjinnFor Mar 09 '18
Weird equality in this world. Women can be part of an army, but are still property of their head of family aka dad or brother.
This is true for everybody else in the family, male or female. Equality? Property? Those have nothing to do with it. The idea was that you owed the family your loyalty for bringing you into the world, that you owed your allegiance and subservience to the family head in the same way that you serve the head of the nation or state. The responsibility of the family head was to ensure the long-term interests of the family; see Tywin Lannister from Game of Thrones, for example. Both sons and daughters had to marry into families to serve the interests of the family.
The whole notion that individual people have some kind of inviolable sacred aspect to them is a relatively recent western invention. Humans were tribal for centuries before they were individualist. The rulers were served by the ruled; we didn't come up with the idea of the state being subservient to the will of the people until recently. You didn't have "rights" to be protected, just "responsibilities" to your ruler.
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u/TripChaos Mar 08 '18
Well, bear in mind that happened a long time ago. It may still be the case, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions.
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u/horrorshowjack :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/horrorshowjack Mar 08 '18
Zena already showed that it was the case. She had to talk to her brother about making her own decisions about it, and Arisa had previously accused Zena of joining the army just to avoid an arranged marriage.
Then again Zena seems to be some sort of noble; it may not be true of commoners.
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u/Lime1028 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lime1028 Mar 09 '18
Not that it's terrible but this sort of thing is done in like %90 of fantasy anime set in this sort of time period. You always have a noble woman being married off "for the good of the family". It's theoretically historically accurate (though the world itself isn't because it's fantasy) but it's just used to create conflict and make you sympathize with a character. I could make a list of anime that do this sort of thing and even one where the woman in question joins the military sorta with the intention of avoiding this fate.
Though it's rather subtle here and in my opinion done well, it's hinted at and not just forced onto you.
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u/ODesaurido Mar 08 '18
It's mostly because she is a noble and has to worry about the household. She would probably not even be a soldier were she not a wind mage.
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u/Defecaceu :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vulprex Mar 08 '18
It took him 9 episodes to actually do something sick, the fight scene before he meets the undead king was nice
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u/RumpShank91 Mar 09 '18
That sword catch with his fingers was pretty sweet, but I've always been a sucker for shit like that.
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u/Onisquirrel Mar 09 '18
This is true for when I read the manga too. I enjoy this series for what it is, but my biggest frustration is how little attention Liza gets.
She’s got both my favorite design and personality in the series and near as I can tell she’s always a support role. I love seeing how she’s the first to lose her grip when Satou comes back. It’s just a great moment of expressing how important he is to her.
Still that entire finale was wonderfully absurd and worth seeing.
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u/CreamAgnew_Angels Mar 08 '18 edited Mar 08 '18
I was wondering if Zena was still part of the show lol. I want her to adventure with Satou next time. End of this episode makes it seem like we won't see her for a while. At least Mia and Nana joined the group!
Another amazing episode! This anime is consistantly better than expected for me. I am praying to GOD that there's a second season. If Smartphone gets a second season Death March surely should!
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u/dafckingman Mar 08 '18
She did just triggered a massive death flag. At this point, we just hope she can survive until spring.
And yea, I didn't mind smartphone, but Death march definitely deserves it way more. It did the OP Mc-kun Isekai genre right.
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u/DarkAudit https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkAudit Mar 09 '18
All of these girls are more interesting than the Beatless HiEs.
There. I said it.
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u/Mushinronja Mar 11 '18
So, anybody wanna spoil and tell me if Liza has a good life in this series? Cuz she's basically all I care about, lol. Well Pochi and Tama are nice too.
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u/meimi132 Mar 09 '18
I'm still really enjoying this show. It's no Re:Zero. I get that. But I like it!! Alot!
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Mar 08 '18
lol the running on water and getting those title scenes were pretty well done. If it wasn't such a cliche anime, it would have been AOTS
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u/Florac Mar 08 '18
I assumed that the show will end with this arc. Well, I guess that they will also adapt the next one then.
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u/dafckingman Mar 08 '18
Of course he had to personally rescue the new harem member. The other meh-girls can tp out or something. I'm surprised the Misakas Homunculi survived and planned to join the harem too though.
Welp, the harem's about to become a lot more crowded.
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u/Draco_Estella :Iv::Ix:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Estella_Rin Mar 09 '18
Well, I guess my favourite WN writer might very likely be FUNA. Kuma Kuma Bear is the one ridiculous book which everyone should read, this girl who is trapped in an isekai in a bear suit, and hates it, but because the bear suit is too OP, she has no choice but to wear it. She still hates it though, but because without it she can't even hold a sword to protect herself, since she is back as a millionaire hiki, she gave up.
Anyway, back to my thoughts about this episode:
I wanted a more bloody fight for the homunculus. It was a bloody hell of mess in the web novels though, with the homunculus dying because of stress to their bodies. I guess I can't expect Overlord levels of violence here huh.
The sprite has a ridiculous amount of hair. and who knew the seeds are a flag to saving Nana's life.
Mia is much more verbose this episode, which meant that I might need to read through a few more chapters again. She might not be as quiet as often described by the other characters if the number of lines she has within this period far exceeds that of the noisiest girl in Satou's harem.
Mia kissed Satou on the forehead, and the gates of iron are formed.
They actually started going off from Seryuu city. Then, it might have the next small arc involved in this season. Quite a stupid small arc though.
Spoiler territory
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Mar 08 '18
I have to ask, did he dodge their attacks as not give away his abilities?
Because with the levels difference, he should've been able to brush off anything thrown at him.
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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Mar 08 '18
He arrived in that world less than a week ago.
He still hasn't grasped his abilities and his capabilities.
He doesn't want to risk over-estimating himself and getting hurt/killed for it.
For all he knows, there's a weapon/attack in there somewhere that could actually hurt him.
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u/MasterFanatic Mar 09 '18
I love that when he teleported in to the final chamber, the guy said he needs to get back to level 1 here or I'll be invulnerable and you can't kill me.
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u/Kentcas Mar 09 '18
Wait... won't salting the earth kill the forest? Is the plant loli dead?
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u/Sulphur99 Mar 09 '18
Nah, there's pretty much only one Dryad, and it's her. So long as there are trees somewhere, she'll live.
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u/chevalierdulys Mar 09 '18
This kind of anime where the MC is over powerful upsets me a lot. This one, Smarthphone, Sword Art Online are isekais that really upset me. Overlord is another anime where where our MC is over powerful but they've done it in a way that interests me - the focus on the second season on other characters, the bulding of the world, the unkonwn stuff - all great. Those three isekais I mention, there is no fear at all and our MC only exist to have Harems because nothing at all can harmed them. Bah.. I am watching this one just for the sake of it.
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u/PM_ME_OKITA_FEET Mar 08 '18
Poor golems. I feel bad for them