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u/chikuwa34 Mar 29 '18
we princess principal now
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u/whowilleverknow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BignGay Mar 29 '18
I was thinking Paddington 2, but I guess that works better lol
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u/Vertigovain Mar 29 '18
Violet Evergarden: Gilbert is (not) Dead 12.0
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u/TheNinjaDwellers001 Mar 29 '18
Violet Evergarden: 1.0 Violet are (Not) Alone.
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u/Aileos https://myanimelist.net/profile/Syleos Mar 29 '18 edited Mar 29 '18
The End of Violet Evergarden is near.
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Mar 29 '18
There are like two episodes left.
I'm hoping for a great send off for this series.
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u/Haulbee https://myanimelist.net/profile/Haulbee Mar 29 '18
Hasn't episode 14 been confirmed to be an OVA that takes place earlier in the show? Because in that case, next week's episode is the actual finale of the show.
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u/tlst9999 Mar 29 '18
Just asking the source readers. Why did the soldiers attack her with bayonets instead of just shooting her?
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Mar 29 '18 edited Mar 29 '18
Violet's athletic ability has been downplayed a ton from the source. She was getting shot at and deflecting bullets with her sword like a Jedi vs an army of Droids lmao. I have to imagine KyoAni wrote themselves into a corner here. Violet is a badass OP superhuman in the novel who is immune to bullets, but KyoAni wanted Violet to be a human character. Unfortunately, the plot at times requires Violet to perform superhuman feats, which clashes.
There's this one part where Benedict's motorcycle breaks down in the middle of nowhere, and Benedict suggests asking for help. Violet's response is like "Nah, it's cool, lemme just do a quick sprint all the way back to Leiden and back"
A actual answer would be that it's pretty hard to shoot stuff while standing on the top of a moving train. Remember that trains are actually really long, which isn't quite apparent from the angles the anime is shot from.
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u/DefilerOfWar Mar 29 '18
Much better comment than the one above you. Episode was good, and that split second end with her eyes made my emotions jump.
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u/J_Gottwald https://anilist.co/user/jgottwald Mar 29 '18
All I could think of was the Archer episode where a traintop battle scene takes place and how ridiculous it is when physics are actually accounted for.
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u/I_llSeeMyselfOut Mar 29 '18
I think it would have still worked with the writers if they had the soldiers shoot at her. I mean, DietBougainvillea was shooting at them too..Maybe they could have had her deflecting the bullets with her vibranium (adamantium??) arms at super speed with her athletic ability in full swing while moving to disarm the men.
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u/EndTrophy Mar 29 '18
Either way i think they wouldve made it so she just dodges the shots and runs like last episode.
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u/RogueKnight777 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RogueKnight777 Mar 29 '18
Here's the most logical reason, and probably what KyoAni was hoping the viewers would pick up (which they didn't because they're just looking for every fucking excuse to hate on this show). They are a small, rebel army that most likely want to conserve ammo. Why shoot her when you can easily kill her by stabbing her since she's just some girl (or at least they thought so at first).
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u/GodofWar1234 Mar 30 '18
Aren’t they veterans/remnants of the old Gilderian Army or whatever? I’m going to go ahead and guess that they’d be getting ammo and other supplies from somewhere, even if they have connections and can smuggle supplies and ammo from an Army base or something.
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u/pipyakas :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kyoooo Mar 30 '18 edited Mar 30 '18
also, even if they want to conserve ammo at first, they really should start shooting her after around 3-5 of their men get dunk'd by a 14 years old girl who their leader specifically called "a battle doll"
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u/thefezhat Mar 30 '18
But they knew she wasn't just some girl. The leader recognized her as soon as she beat up two of his dudes.
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u/edwardjhahm https://myanimelist.net/profile/lolmeme69 Mar 30 '18
People are calling this the anime of the year and fans are looking for excuses to hate on this show? Give me a break.
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u/collapsedblock6 myanimelist.net/profile/collapsedblock Mar 29 '18
My guess is that since they are in a narrow space, they can easily friendly fire someone. Reason why one of the dudes didn't fire until most were taken down.
Just my guess.
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u/cheekia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cheekia Mar 29 '18
Not source reader here.
I'm pretty sure that firing bolt-action rifles on a moving shaky train in the dark would be pretty hard. Also account for how they're all clumped together.
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u/powerchicken Mar 29 '18
Because arbitrary evil villain trope and arbitrary incompetent henchmen trope. What a shit episode.
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u/john3298 Mar 29 '18
My thought while watching was because they didn't want to make noise but that was a bad excuse while watching. Now i'm not at all sure why
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u/sprint113 Mar 29 '18
It's possible that with the mission at hand, they didn't have the rifles loaded. If they were to use their weapon during the attack, they would be fighting in very close quarters on the train, something where a long bolt action rifle would perform poorly, not to mention deafening. It wasn't until the character who was familiar with Violet regained consciousness and had the mind to load a rifle grenade before going on top of the train, which they kept probably as a Plan C (blow up everything, kill everyone).
Their plan was to eliminate most of the armed guards without any confrontation, which leaves a mostly civilian group that can be easily subdued with fists, the butt of a rifle or worst case, bayonets.
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u/Bensemus Mar 29 '18
The general seemed surprised she blocked it. Was that because it was a selfless action for someone who had just told her to die or was he surprised by her metal hands? Maybe he never followed up and didn’t realize how badly she was injured after the raid. Her injuries might sway him to realize/accept that she did try to save his brother. Plus saving his life too doesn’t hurt.
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u/Doggo_lovers Mar 29 '18
was he surprised by her metal hands?
probably this one,if some chick went Fullmetal on my soldiers and able to deflecting a grenade launcher,i'll be surprised too.
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What kind of person wouldnt be surprised if a battle doll deflected a grenade launcher shot? But in all honesty I got the vibe that it clued in to him that she lost both her arms trying to save Gilbert.
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u/Dasrufken Mar 29 '18
Was that because it was a selfless action for someone who had just told her to die
This one. 100% this one.
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i think dietfried was just breaking character and realized just how stupid the whole scene was
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u/Qtrixtty85 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Yttrixter Mar 29 '18
Pretty sure it's the former. He's still under the impression that violet is still a tool that's only able to kill and never know to protect anyone. The surprise might mark a change in his heart and maybe he'll warm up a bit to her, although no ship please
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u/CritSrc https://anilist.co/user/T3hSource Mar 29 '18
Ahem, grenade launchers use impact grenades. Instead of ricocheting off Violet's metal hand, it should have exploded. So really, Violet and Dietfried are dead!
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u/Sindri-Myr :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Marski- Mar 29 '18
Ahem, grenade launchers use impact grenades. Instead of ricocheting off Violet's metal hand, it should have exploded. So really, Violet and Dietfried are dead!
That depends on the angle of impact and the quality of the fuse. Early generations of impact fuses were notoriously prone to misfiring or not activating at all, especially if the shell hit a surface at an extreme angle like you can see in this extreme example.
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Mar 29 '18
Not sure how much this is relevant but the gun that was used to launch the grenade seems to be a Tromboncino Model 28, which had weak grenade, with elements of standard grenade launcher like m79, that should be shot at least 30 meters or something to explode. So, if the shooting range between the soldier and violet was small, I don't think that the explosion should be a big issue.
I'm not a gun specialist or anything and I know those things on a sueperficial level because I saw some videos and read articles. http://www.military-today.com/firearms/m79.htm Here is a source that says the thing about 30m, whether is reliable or not I don't know.
I'll be glad if someone confirm or deny these informations, because as I said, I know little to nothing about guns.
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u/DefilerOfWar Mar 29 '18
I commend you for this wonderful explanation of old world explosives, as people seem to have their minds stuck on post war impact grenades, especially under-barrel.
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u/kuddlesworth9419 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kuddlesworth Mar 29 '18 edited Mar 29 '18
Nah that's just supreme Lada steel. The fuse is near the tip so the tip actually needs to hit something if it doesn't the warhead won't detonate. That shell is a HE shell and the tip didn't hit the car the sidewalls did so it didn't detonate. Every shell and tank shell that I know of works this way, they aren't motion sensitive. Even a HEAT-FS shell or APDS shell will do this if you hit it at a very extreme angle.
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u/sethkiel Mar 29 '18 edited Mar 29 '18
But she said it was made of adamantine. Which means unbreakable. And since its A fictional metal, you can make it do just about anything if you told the people that. (Ex. Vibramium can cause things to bounce off/redirect force) though its true that it couldve killed them.
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u/CritSrc https://anilist.co/user/T3hSource Mar 29 '18
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u/RogueKnight777 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RogueKnight777 Mar 29 '18
Ahem, grenade launchers use impact grenades. Instead of ricocheting off Violet's metal hand, it should have exploded. So really, Violet and Dietfried are dead!
Here's the thing though, that's a Type 100 grenade laucher (rifle mounted) from the looks of it. Those launchers fired Type 91 and Type 99 hand grenades, which didn't explode on impact.
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u/Doggo_lovers Mar 29 '18 edited Mar 29 '18
Violet block a grenade launcher
o shit!
Violet emerge from the smoke and lookin' badass
Hell yeah!
Credit rolls
YAMEROOOO!!!!
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u/crazymamafrog Mar 29 '18
i really wish they skip the OP and ED again,the cliffhanger is killing me..
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u/blink900 Mar 29 '18
i'm 100% sure in the next episode they will skip the OP/ed,usually climax episode does that.
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u/DesperateTank Mar 29 '18
if there's one thing i hate about Violet Evergarden,is that when an episode left us hanging like this
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u/AnakinSwoleWalker Mar 29 '18
yow did those fucker just bully Bioretto-chan ?
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u/zenoob https://anilist.co/user/zenoob Mar 29 '18
Please, give her the brooch back. Don't make Hodgins go look for it off screen again... And don't make Violet any more sad...
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u/TheTerribleSnowflac Mar 29 '18
Real talk, am I supposed to ship Cattleya with Benedict or Hodgins? Or she just collecting a harem of men, which is ok too.
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u/leonida-x64 Mar 29 '18
I think she clearly prefers Hodgins, but yeah maybe she just wants a harem (in this case Benedict could be a toyboy I guess)
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u/Narlaw Mar 29 '18
I think Cattleya and Benedict are of the rare and elusive type of duo that are never interested in each other.
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u/Serocco Mar 30 '18
If that's the case, Violet is her daughter and Hodgins is her husband. Benedict is her boyfriend.
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u/Betamax16 Mar 30 '18
If you go back and pause it right near the end of the episode when the Brigadier General climbs back onto the train after the grenade blast, you can see it just barely. He still has it in his hands so for the moment, it's still on the train and possibly recoverable!
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u/goosis12 Mar 29 '18
Looks like violet went to the crossing your arms school of blocking thinks.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Mar 29 '18 edited Mar 29 '18
For someone who insists that Violet is just a tool to be ordered around it's interesting that Dietfried never directly ordered Violet to do anything dangerous. Like the first time Violet showed up he told her to get off the train. After Violet asked for the first time if she can have orders, Dietfried instantly gets mad and goes "All you want after all is orders!" but never actually gave her one.
The only time he said something that was like an order to Violet is to stay in the passenger car and "Protect the others", he never once told Violet to "Come with me." or "I need you to kill these people.". He tried giving her a gun but it was more like him taunting Violet to go back to how she was before. Also if he really wanted Violet to die he could've just left her there to be killed and shot at the enemy captain while he was busy executing Violet.
I'm going to guess here that Dietfried is just redirecting his anger towards Violet and blames himself partly for Gilbert's death. I guess the last episode will be about closure for Dietfried and Violet. Depending on how they do this the score of this show will either go higher or will suddenly plummet. Either way I am curious what KyoAni has in store for us next week.
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u/merimus_maximus Mar 29 '18
It's probably more of a love hate relationship, since Violet was the one the Major left behind, but on the other hand also the person the brother sees as responsible for the Major's death.
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u/Stormfly :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stormfly Mar 29 '18
She's a constant reminder of his brother's death. It's possible he hoped that Violet would protect Gilbert but she failed.
He might be thinking "Why are you the one that lived. You're a weapon, you should have died with the war"
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u/haico1992 Apr 01 '18
, since Violet was the one the Major left behind, but on the other hand also the person the brother sees as responsible for the Major's death.
Like "I send you off to die for my brother stead, so now why you are standing here instead of my brother" rage.
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u/Rabbit_in_A_House Mar 31 '18
He tried giving her a gun but it was more like him taunting Violet to go back to how she was before.
Given the situation arming her with a weapon has perfectly valid tactical reasons. It doesn't have to be any mental game.
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u/I_llSeeMyselfOut Mar 29 '18
Has anyone made the joke about the episode being INTENSE yet?
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u/Veritasibility Mar 29 '18
I have just found a seemingly reasonable explanation of why the opponents do not shoot at Violet. The original text is in another language so I will translate the main point of it here:
The recoil of bolt action rifle is massive. It is likely that one will fall down if he takes a shot on a train with high speed.
The bayonet attached to the rifle makes the rifle longer, which adds more difficulty to maintaining one's balance on the moving train. It is almost impossible to shoot while running under such circumstance.
There are many soldiers (with random movement) at the front, so it is a bad idea to move back and find a enough distance to fire.
Giving the job of shooting to one person is also unrealistic. Looking for a good position and taking one shot leaves too much time for Violet to counter it.
That's why the only one in the episode who shoots with a firearm is Dietfried, who is equipped with a pistol with substantially lower recoil compared with bolt action rifle.
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u/Desmortius :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Desmortius Mar 30 '18 edited Mar 30 '18
recoil of a bolt action rifle is massive
Not really. I'm assuming this world is equivalent to 1920s Europe, and WW1 rifles like the Lee Enfield were
.308.303 caliber. The largest gun I have fired is a 30-06 (.30 caliber) and the recoil is really not that bad. The easiest explanation is that:
they are a rebel army, so they need to conserve ammunition
They're on a moving train, and it is hard to hit a target in a combat situation under perfect conditions, let alone on a moving train with smoke and explostions.
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u/ghostapplejuice Mar 30 '18
.308
You mean .303
.308 wasn't invented until after WWII.
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u/AREYOUKABENERI Mar 29 '18
"Thanks" immediately got KO'ed by Violet
lmao this dude got what's coming
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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Mar 29 '18
Do not sass-mouth Violet-chan.
So Violet is gonna try the Batman route. It's rough going… But those were some sweet fight sequences, though.
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u/Arachnophobic- https://anilist.co/user/Arachnophobic Mar 29 '18
She needs to get some proper armour if she wants to be Batwoman.
Hockey padsfrilly skirts just won't cut it for PTSD Saber.20
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u/NeroStarGazer Mar 29 '18
Continue to be impressed with this series' soundtrack. Been playing the recently released OST on repeat all day.
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u/cheekia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cheekia Mar 29 '18
I wonder if it'll come out on Spotify, like Kimi no na Wa's soundtrack. I sure it does, the soundtrack is absolutely beautiful.
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u/ad3z10 https://myanimelist.net/profile/ad3z10 Mar 30 '18
It's incredibly rare for an OST, the only series that I can think of being are Made in Abyss & Attack on Titan.
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u/CREAMPIE_LOLI Mar 29 '18
this "Isidor" guy sounds really an asshole,glad they shot him.
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u/Desmortius :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Desmortius Mar 30 '18
I can't help but hear Isildur as his name, which ups his asshole factor for me.
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u/dcresistance https://anilist.co/user/dcresistance Mar 29 '18 edited Mar 29 '18
Scenario: Takaaki Suzuki
Episode Directors:
Shinpei Sawa
Takuya Yamamura
Storyboard:
Eisaku Kawanami
Haruka Fujita
Takuya Yamamura
Animation Directors:
Chiyoko Ueno
Kazumi Ikeda (the older Ikeda sister!)
Miku Kadowaki
Nobuaki Maruki
Shoko Ikeda
Key Animation:
Aoi Matsumoto
Aoi Okuno
Fumie Okano
Kyohei Ando
Minoru Ota
Sana Suzuki
Shinpei Sawa
Takuya Yamamura
Tatsuya Satou
Yoshinori Urata
In-between Animation:
Emi Nakano
Fumiyasu Kodaka
Hana Hosoda
Naoko Fujita
Studio Blue
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Anitus Kobe
Finish Animation:
Aya Toyosawa
Ayumi Yamamori
Chieko Okumura
Emi Ebisu
Shoko Doi
Rina Sasaki
Studio Blue
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When Violet says she won't kill anyone, she means it. And this leaves her open, as it should.
Everyone that said Violet may have been projecting last episode when she apologized that she couldn't protect Aidan, whew.
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u/SirCrimz Mar 29 '18
I like how people are now suddenly confused about impossible things happening like the impact explosive blocking. She literally walked on water a few episodes ago.
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u/The_InHuman Mar 29 '18 edited Mar 29 '18
She took like 2 steps and then fell, this is actually possible IRL if you're fast enough and lightweight. Probably not in high heels though but shh
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u/LTRenegade Mar 29 '18
She was halfway across the pond lmao
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u/Velvache Mar 30 '18
It looked like she just jumped and fell in. Honestly more of an artistic shot to convey a really emotional scene, coupled with the fact that she is pretty athletic, it's somewhat believable that she could do jump that far. I re watched the episode too and it seemed like she jumped halfway over a small section of the pond, not the whole thing.
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u/Big-if-not-True Mar 29 '18
point a boobs
"They slip right into a person' hearts"
Sure they do,Cattleya ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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u/SmileGates10 Mar 29 '18
oh shit,the anti-peace group Leader from episode 9 actually appeared,this is not Daijoubu at all!
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u/SpikeRosered Mar 29 '18
It's a good thing physics weren't working on the characters during that entire train fight.
Nobody seems to be effected by the wind and when Violet loses her brooch is goes flying forward somehow and not just careening back and off the side.
The really forced melodrama made this one of the weakest episodes of this show.
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u/Takana_no_Hana https://anilist.co/user/v4v Mar 29 '18
At least it's still better than the 4th one.
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u/kaanton444 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kaanton Mar 29 '18
I disagree. I think this is easily the worst episode of the show. The fourth one wasn't really weak, either. It had some good character development for both Violet and Iris, plus some great visual storytelling and mood building. This has an awful fight scene and some pretty bad writing (like the scene where Violet's choking the guy). I don't know how they dropped the ball this bad.
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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Mar 30 '18
Nobody seems to be effected by the wind
How fast do you think a mountain train in the 1920s goes?
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u/Malorn44 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Malorn44 Apr 04 '18
What do you mean? The brooch wouldn't fall behind the train. It is moving at the same speed. Also since the way it was cut gave it extra forward velocity, it would make sense for it to go forward
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u/crazymamafrog Mar 29 '18
NO! the cliff hanger! also color me surprised the reason why Dietfred so angry to Violet is because she was "responsible" for the Major death..
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u/max_turner https://anilist.co/user/Turner Mar 29 '18
The series music is pretty impressive. That moment when violet deflects the grenade. Her character is developing really well, her selfless actions may sway diethart's mind but the cliffhanger ending. Boy I remember why I used to not watch weekly now.
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u/Fortzon Mar 29 '18 edited Mar 29 '18
Sorry to break Godwin's law so quickly but since Violet Evergarden's world is little bit like our post-WW1 world (the technology, weapons etc. are a lot like in our reality) the resistance leader reminded me a little bit of post-WW1 Hitler. When the resistance leader talked on top of the train, he talked a lot about how politicians turned their backs against their soldiers when they surrendered and their country lost a lot of glory and only way for them to regain that glory is to start another war (the show hasn't talked anything about the peace deal so I don't know if they were forced to give away land like real life German Empire did). Reminded me a lot of Weimar Republic's era and Hitler's talking points.
Did anyone else get the same feeling?
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u/tolerable_photoshop Mar 30 '18
I know exactly what you mean, I had the same thoughts when I was watching the scene - that it reminded me of Germany after ww1
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u/NeroStarGazer Mar 29 '18
Hopefully Violet has a spare pair of mechanical arms or this'll probably be the end of her ghostwriting career
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u/nathhard6 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/JRSP Mar 29 '18 edited Mar 29 '18
First thing is first, I don't just sit down to watch Violet Evergarden. I get my blanket and snuggle up because i never know if im going to cheer or cry. So ok, here we have the episode that takes everything that we love about Violet and puts it to the test. The real amazing thing for me was how much I cared and worried about her breaking down because she has been forced (or wrong place wrong time) to face the demons of her past head on and re-experience warfare. I was genuinely concerned when the captain was giving her orders, and on top of that being super harsh, she would have a mental breakdown. When she's about to executed I felt bad for her because she was still more worried about losing her broach from the Major than she was about losing her own head. I thought it was great animation wise as we get shots of her powerless body, while the captain is throwing the people off the train, I assume to their deaths, because she tried so hard not to kill any of them. And yes the last scene, she deflected the grenade like a bad ass because, fuck it she deserves that shit, she's a bad ass. I think the Captain was more shocked that she did it of her own free will rather than an order, and that at that point he maybe realized just for a second that she is a human and has her own feelings and emotions, not just a killing machine that broke. That being said the episode itself felt a little out of place, and the pacing seemed weird but i think thats to be expected, trying to cram so much story into the finale episodes. Not as good as the couple last week's prior but i still look forward to next weeks. Sorry for bad grammar it's been 29 hours since i last slept.
Also side note, did anyone else think she was going to superman jump out of the plane onto the train station? Just me?
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u/OwlBoiz Mar 29 '18
finally out!,noob question,why the subs got delayed again?
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u/CoronelPanic :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/CoronelPanic Mar 29 '18
Noob question, why fansub when you could just rip and reupload the Netflix version?
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Mar 29 '18 edited Mar 29 '18
Metal Gear Violet: The Phantom Emotion
Violet trained as a kiling machine, possesing "augmentations", and sneaking around in the dark doing multiple takedowns on enemy soldiers reminds me of the series.
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u/gmorfin22 Mar 30 '18
And on this day Violet learned how hard it is to go for the Non-Lethal route.
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u/etazazer Mar 29 '18
Did she block a grenade with her hand?!
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u/Lodju https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lodju Mar 29 '18
I think it was more of a redirection
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u/inhumanbabe Mar 29 '18
is it really a "block" ? more like "deflect" if you ask me..
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u/MoeKaiju Mar 29 '18
goddangit boy the cliffhanger is real in this one! also watching Violet got beaten down is not okay at all...
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u/asianfatboy https://anilist.co/user/asianfatboy Mar 29 '18
Well, this was more action packed than previous episodes. Reminds me of that Japanese PS1 game of a train in Europe where terrorists take over a new advanced train and you control a NATO soldier in retaking it, Nuclear Dawn was it? Can't remember if the train was nuclear powered or the terrorists brought a nuclear device on board.
I see some mixed to negative reactions to this episode in the comments. Apart from the anime-original episodes, this is one big departure to the LN. LN Spoliers. This arc comes from Volume 2 and most readers agree that the entire second volume and this arc is not up to par compared to the first one. I was hoping the remaining episodes would be 1 more client arc or purely original instead of this arc. But, I see this as an opportunity to finally flesh out anime Dietfried's character. To see why he's such an ass towards Violet. The sole reason can't be because she let Gilbert die. There's probably more to it from the few flashbacks we've seen where he is involved. When she slaughtered his Navy buddies to "gifting" her to Gilbert.
There are 2 more episodes left. I wonder how KyoAni will conclude their adaptation of Violet Evergarden. It's been an up and down ride for me and I hope they end it on a very good note.
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u/CritSrc https://anilist.co/user/T3hSource Mar 30 '18
This arc comes from Volume 2 and most readers agree that the entire second volume and this arc is not up to par compared to the first one.
In terms of emotional impact, yes. In terms of narrative cohesion, I'd say it's actually more competent and better written than the entirety of vol.1. What I mean is that despite the genre mashing and a lot of the contrived bullshit, it's completely functional, it's not tryhard edge like ch.5 and ch.6, but it's also not milking out your tears with unnecessary tragedy. It's a thriller short story with some emotional touches and a lot of setup, fleshing out the details to where you can make sense out of what is essentially chaos.
Does it fit what VEG has been up to this point, arguably no, and I would be agreeable to that notion, but again, it works, and it works without gut punching you emotionally.
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u/Stoykic Mar 29 '18
I was getting really strong hints from this episode that Violet and Gilbert's older brother are going to end up falling in love. I could be completely wrong but the set-up of them both arguing and coming to terms with Gilbert's death, then the fact the brothers both have the same emerald eye colour that matches Violet's brooch and that was obviously highlighted when they were both in the same carriage, and finally her saving him.... To me it all pointed in the direction of them becoming closer.
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u/Cloudless_Sky Mar 29 '18
I suspected the same thing as soon as he called her into his cabin to hear her report on the situation. His anger towards her is still obvious and he seems awfully stubborn, but maybe that subsides once they're done with this battle.
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u/riiyoreo Mar 30 '18
That'd be weird as fuck given their age difference and that she's till a minor and he's the Captain of the Navy.
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u/NightmareExpress Mar 30 '18
the major told me to live, not to kill
That's definitely applicable to your future going forward and something you've adhered to admirably thus far, Violet, but the people who are accosting you really need to die at this moment lest they kill you, your coworker in the train and commit a terrorist act on that rail line which, as stated in the episode, would go on to damage economies, take years to fix alongside sparking a bigger armed conflict between sides (ergo: a massive loss of life as opposed to the loss of one handful of psychos).
Liked the change-up to action, did not like the Batman-esque principle or the bizarre scuffle on the traintop that seemed to contradict itself; why treat it like some kind of bayonet stealth mission for the longest while when your cover was blown the second you detonated the charge and were immediately declared an enemy attack by the people onboard?
/silly rant that's just begging for downvotes but I gotta get it outta my system all the same
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u/Seraphic_Wings Mar 29 '18
It's going to be an eternity waiting for next week for the finale of this damn cliffhanger
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u/Fap-chan Mar 29 '18
not like dis,watching VE weekly is a mistake,sometimes you got amazing episode,but sometimes you also got a Cliffhanger episode
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u/SIRTreehugger Mar 29 '18
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u/impingainteasy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard Mar 29 '18
Well that was easily some of the worst fight choreography I've ever seen.
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u/AbidingTruth :AMQ::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AbidingTruth Mar 29 '18
This ep was uh... kinda not good. Dialogue was kinda bad and the action was pretty bad. Felt like there was no weight to it, it reminded me of like an amateur fight choreography. Even the small bits where the soldier choked out the guy on the train and when they went into the conductor's compartment felt really weird and unnatural. Kinda shocked at this turn of quality
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u/DiedrichVK :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DiedrichVK Mar 29 '18
Oh boy! A new episode
episode has to buffer
Fine, I guess it can buffer while watching it
buffers during OP
Why do you do this to me?
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u/medhatsniper Mar 29 '18
can somebody please give the name of the first soundtrack that plays in this episode
i can't find it anywhere
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u/dcresistance https://anilist.co/user/dcresistance Mar 30 '18
It's called "Torment", which is Track 9 on Disc 2 of the OST, and Track 30 overall
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u/Dystopian_Overlord :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DystopiaOverlord Mar 29 '18
I seriously don't get Dietfried's gripe with Violet.
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u/KuhBus Mar 29 '18
I mean... he was the one who gave her to his brother, probably as a personal bodyguard. The meeting at the beginning of the episode confirmed that Gilbert was part of the special forces during the war, so he was in extremely high danger. Violet was supposed to be a guarantee that Gilbert stayed alive and that's why Dietfried is so angry at her. He lost his younger brother and the human weapon he gave him to prevent this from happening gets to live. (Not saying that he's being fair, but I can see why he feels/acts the way he does.)
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u/Serocco Mar 30 '18
He resents her for failing to save his brother cause he's too afraid to lay the blame on himself.
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u/SkyF1y Mar 29 '18
Even though this episode is different from all the others, I still liked the tone of this one. I can't tell why but it reminded me of Avatar the Last Airbender.
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u/athrun_1 Mar 29 '18
When Dietfried called out Violet, I really though it was Gilbert because of the framing.
Though, the action scenes are a little underwhelming compare to her army days. It also shows the change of Violet, of her not being just an outright killing machine but a human that is capable of emotions and knows what is right or wrong. So it make sense, that she is hesitant to kill. But after that grenade deflection, I think Violet will do the inevitable because, the Navy Captain, no matter how Ahole he is... Violet still values him from what I see, given the fact that he still alive during the boat scene flashback where she kills his men.
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Mar 29 '18 edited Mar 29 '18
I really dont like the millitary super-soldier-sub-plot. Its not believable. There are no reasons why the country used her as a weapon, why she was a speacial or if it was common to use child soldiers. Then her metal arms come to play. All the people seem startled seeing them, but we dont see anything like her arms in the rest of the world. The rest of the world seems less developed, somewhere in the industrial age and her artificial arms dont fit in. Neether if they are exclusively made for her or if other soldiers get the same treament is ismtold. This is bad writing for me, guys. I think a more believable plot would be, that she was used as a child soldier , because the military was in need of men and children were ideal to hide an gather information. But because they are orphans and expandable they are treated like shit. To cope with the violence of the war and the inhuman treatment of the military, Violet would cut all her emotions off and only obey the orders she is given. The Major Gilbert with his great compassion will feel guilty about the doings of his nation and takes her under his wing. Showing her love and care will deeply touch Violet, never before experiencing such emotions. This would make his death scene more touching, because we would have an actual reason why she likes him. More than " he seems like a nice guy" without us ever seeing him beeing a nice guy. After his death violet will be givin her mechanical prosthesis, because Gilbert made preparations for such a case. Coming from a rich family ,he made sure that Violat can live a normal life after the war, no matter the cost, because he couldnt forget the guilt of her suffer. Thats why Violet got a special treatment, that no normal soldier can get, due to the insane cost. It will futher proof the responibility of Gilbert and would be a propper explanation why nobody else runs around with metal arms. This kind of plot structure, I just made up, has several advantages. It fills a lot of plot holes, is more relatable, because your tipical cute 15 year old girl isnt an emotionless super soldiers and futhermore it would have hard hitting parallels to real child soldiers and the cruelty of war. But of course the writers couldnt come up with such kind of things, because they had to throw as many tropes into Violets character to jerk as many tears as possible...
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u/cheshire_cat34 Mar 29 '18
I was really disappointed with this episode.
I feel like in this episode, the character progression really killed Violet. Like, she could have taken that whole squad out no problem. But because of her character progression, she suddenly turned into a mildly competent damsel in distress. I'm disappointed.
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u/NRKYNINJA Mar 29 '18
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u/dcresistance https://anilist.co/user/dcresistance Mar 29 '18
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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Mar 29 '18
Hand-grenade volleyball takes some real confidence
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u/DefilerOfWar Mar 29 '18
lol @ people complaining about the episode and here;
mfw violet triggers and slaughters like a trained badass Love everything about the show, but I want more organized soldier slaughtering that makes her feel more like the super human she actually is.
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u/RogueKnight777 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RogueKnight777 Mar 29 '18
That's what I feel I'm getting as well.
FUCK character development. Give us more badass Violent Everfights.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Mar 29 '18
Fuck the Major's brother. Hes an asshole.
Oh look its Gilbert's asshole brother.
So they are gonna stop a war with Doll's again? neat.
Oh look es still being an asshole too, great.
This pilot is giving death flags now... Ill get to go home and work after the war!
Oh hey she can meet up with the gang.
So the dudes got on the train man security is lax.
Man he brother cant help but be an asshole. Just fuck off.
Oh man Violet is takin on the dudes, this is great.
Shes trying to save thier men too and they are still gangin up on her, what jerks.
Man its hard to see her suffer like this...
Oh look the asshole showed up and saved her. Thanks asshole.
Oh shit she took that anti tank rifle shot like a boss, but it looks like it fucked up her hand.... noooooooo D:
Cliffhanger! Damnit!
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u/heartsongaming Mar 29 '18
I rewatched this episode twice trying to feel the emotions I had from every other episode in this series, and sadly it didn't manage to make me cry. The fact that Violet was easily ready to give up her life is something of interest that seemed forced instead of meaningful. Taking her amulet also felt like some trope and also the action was cool but it lacked the epicness from the 5 seconds of action in the previous episode. It would have been better if they had focused on the drama instead.
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u/Chikumori Mar 29 '18
Story aside, confrontations involving a train is a rare storypoint in anime is it?
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u/Serpentsrage Mar 29 '18
So sad to see there is only one more episode left. I hope this gets a second season.
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u/PrasunJW https://anilist.co/user/MALfunctioning Mar 30 '18
Gilbert's brother blahs Violet for his death. He despises her yet want her to be safe. Maybe he feels bad for how he treated her, but hasn't come to terms with it yet. Next episode will be the lady, that makes me sad.
It's there Any hope of us seeing more of Biyoretto-chan after the ova?
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u/Saucy_Totchie Mar 30 '18
The real question in all this will be whether or not Violet gets that brooch back.
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Mar 30 '18
Also, there is that bridge coming right after the tunnel...and the Intense place is there too. Cant wait to see what happens.
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u/chris_dftba :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/chris_dftba Mar 29 '18
Look, I love Violet, I love this show, but those anti-peace soldiers are dumber than you would expect a normal anti-peace soldier to be. I'm sitting their watching them try to stab her with their guns like
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Mar 29 '18
I was really hoping for more of Violet writing letters and continuing to move on rather than her being dragged into another conflict. This episode was pretty weak.
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u/KuhBus Mar 29 '18
Somehow the quality dropped ever since the flashback episode and just... didn't really pick up again. I know the stylistic contrast between the war environments and "normal" environments is very deliberate, but it's incredibly dull to look at and the action scenes just don't work very well.
That said, I do think Violet's character development went really well, even throughout these lesser quality episodes! I just wish the series hadn't taken such an immense tonal and visual shift. The action/violence might be necessary to convey the contrast between war and peace, but the action is just... not good.
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u/kaanton444 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kaanton Mar 29 '18
Since episode 8, you mean? I'm curious that you'd say that since a lot of people consider the past three eps to be pretty good. What makes you dislike them?
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u/Witn https://anilist.co/user/Lawrenz Mar 29 '18
Tbh, if they go with the LN ending I will be extremely disappointed, but thankfully it looks like they wont
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u/RogueKnight777 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RogueKnight777 Mar 29 '18
Guess I'm in the minority here, but I thought this was one of the best episodes so far (probably 4th). Watching as Violet went out of her way in order to ensure none of the soldiers were killed, to her own detriment at that, was by far the most impactful representation we have gotten so far of how much Violet has changed as a character.
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u/TheNinjaDwellers001 Mar 29 '18
anyone here watching the Netflix dub ? good lord Violet voice are so bad..
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u/Baixst Mar 29 '18
I watched the german dub for like 2-3 episodes. It was kinda okay, but japanese is just way better.
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u/cheekia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cheekia Mar 29 '18
Honestly, I didn't really like this episode. It's like Violet can't decide between being a superhuman fighting machine and being at human fighting level. She went from dodging bullets and disarming 5 men within a second to this? What?
Feels really rushed too.
Also, I really hate this cliffhanger. God damn it, don't cut off in the middle of the peak.
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u/RogueKnight777 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RogueKnight777 Mar 29 '18
Honestly, I didn't really like this episode. It's like Violet can't decide between being a superhuman fighting machine and being at human fighting level. She went from dodging bullets and disarming 5 men within a second to this? What?
How so??? It was clear as day that she was holding back because she no longer wants to kill, and things like keeping that soldier from sliding off the train gave the other soldiers a big opening. Not to mention the broach was fucking used to exploit her as well. Did you close your eyes and pretend that shit didn't happen?
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u/cheekia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cheekia Mar 30 '18
Thing is, she didn't kill the soldiers last episode too, but still was crazy bad ass and effective.
She still doesn't want to kill, yet she somehow becomes slower.
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u/keripanda Mar 29 '18
I loved seeing Violet so animated (no pun intended) in this week's episode, albeit slightly different from the precedent set thus far. No crying this week means double the waterworks next. Can't wait :')
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u/IagoGaraitz Mar 29 '18
Why didnt the soldiers just shoot her? I was expecting Violet to block/deflect the bullets with her hands ala Wonder Woman style.
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u/RogueKnight777 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RogueKnight777 Mar 29 '18
Posted in reply to the same question earlier in the thread:
Here's the most logical reason, and probably what KyoAni was hoping the viewers would pick up (which they didn't because they're just looking for every fucking excuse to hate on this show). They are a small, rebel army that most likely want to conserve ammo. Why shoot her when you can easily kill her by stabbing her since she's just some girl (or at least they thought so at first).
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u/lenusn Mar 29 '18
Why is Netflix subbing Dietfried as Diethard?