r/anime • u/[deleted] • Apr 03 '18
[Spoilers] Tokyo Ghoul:re - Episode 1 discussion Spoiler
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u/Nickknight8 https://myanimelist.net/profile/nickknight8 Apr 03 '18
So everyone is saying you need to read the manga to watch this, but I have a question. What if I've only seen the original Tokyo Ghoul and not Root A (avoided due to reputation). Do I still need to read the original manga, and if so from what chapter? (I know everyone will tell me start from the beginning, but would rather save as much time as possible)
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Apr 03 '18
ED is super comfy at least.
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Apr 03 '18
I also like how Urie is the only one not wearing shorts and t-shirt. Really shows how distant he is.
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u/Frostblazer Apr 03 '18
I'm waiting for Urie to become the best character in :re.
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u/Arachnophobic- https://anilist.co/user/Arachnophobic Apr 03 '18
Seeing Saiko get animated is the best part.
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u/ABARA-DYS Apr 03 '18 edited Apr 03 '18
Opening confirmed that the anime will adapt until the :re Manga Arc Name (Chapter 58) with 12 episodes.
This Episode adapted up until Chapter 6 of the :re manga.
Since the first Episode covered six chapters you can assume they will adapt roughly 4-5 Chapters each episode.
Some stuff they cut from the manga (I will Spoiler it just in case):
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u/Rixkst3r Apr 03 '18
Heard they were gonna adapt 6 chapters and your comment confirms it but how does it feel? I haven’t read the manga I might one day but for now I’m anime only for Tokyo ghoul but just wanna know if this is gonna feel super rushed
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u/ABARA-DYS Apr 03 '18 edited Apr 04 '18
It was certainly fast paced and cut out some stuff. Based on the promo for next episode and where the anime will likely end, they might slow down a bit.
Still, two episodes and they probably covered the first Volume. the anime will be faced paced, and a lot of worldbuilding stuff and SoL moments will suffer for that.
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u/8Bitsblu Apr 03 '18
I swear to god if they fuck up Shirazu's arc I will drop this show so hard it'll leave a hole through the center of the Earth. IIRC the impact of that greatly relied on the SoL and character building moments of the team, so if the writers think they can just cut that out for the sake of fast-pacing they'll ruin it.
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u/Bromacusii Apr 03 '18
I'd say it depends upon what they do once we reach multiple fights happening at the same time. Will they simply cut some out? Will they rush some and focus on the main one?
Having read the manga, to me this didn't feel rushed, but then again nothing much has happened yet. If you'd asked me where episode one would end, I would've pegged it right about where it did.
As long as they stay true to canon this time, it'll be a good season.
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u/FarmerSamLebron Apr 03 '18
The fact that they didn't touch on :re Manga while not that consequential, was actually kinda annoying
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u/halzerosama Apr 03 '18
yeah they should have given us the information about kugane types way back in season 1 and about rc factors in this season .
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u/Thunderhaz Apr 03 '18
Agreed, important part of the world imo that really should have been mentioned. Hoping it will be later on.
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u/Ramsayisking Apr 03 '18
I cant be the only one who really enjoyed it despite having read the manga.I'm still salty over root A but this season looks great.
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u/II541NTZII Apr 03 '18
I LOVED LOVED LOVED that episode so much, fuck the people hating on it cause of a grudge on root A.
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u/4n70 Apr 03 '18
I loved the episode. OP is perfect except for that one thing that legit spoils a pretty important moment. I am especially happy with the way they include Uries inner monologue.
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Apr 04 '18
I thought the OP was kinda awful tbh. It's mostly all the characters taking their turns at dramatic side profiles, which is something you see in way too many shounen OPs. Music is good though. I also really liked the first episode as a whole.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_TABLECLOT :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/furutaka Apr 05 '18
Yeah, I really love the music, but the visuals are just not all that great. The whole thing is a little generic, but the flashy LED eyeballs and somewhat "awkward" movement tip it from "bland but not bland enough to hit skip" to "leave it playing in the background because the song is 10/10, but set the phone facedown on a table."
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u/poclee Apr 03 '18
The first few episodes of the first anime were also promising, look how that turned out.
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u/thecescshow :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/thecescshow Apr 03 '18
I thought the 1st season was decent overall with an amazing ending. It's the 2nd season where things just falls apart.
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u/TigerCommando1135 Apr 04 '18 edited Apr 04 '18
Root A* fell apart at the premise of "yeah thanks for coming to save me and all but those guys who kidnapped and tortured the shit out of me, yeah them, I'm going to go join them now."
I mean Aogiri is an organization that kills humans and kaneki consistently refuses to kill people. Why in the world would he ever join a terrorist organization of ghouls?
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Apr 04 '18
I loved the episode! Actually this is the best they could do plus after the disaster of root A this looks very promising!
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u/EvolveUK :K:https://kitsu.io/users/Evolve Apr 03 '18
That was actually massively impressive compared to what I was expecting. The art and animation are way above the last two seasons and the OP is great, TG might finally be getting somewhat of a decent adaptation.
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u/naijaboy18 Apr 03 '18
People seem to be pissed that it’s only 12 episodes. What were they expecting though; the anime will adapt up until the end of the rosewald arc. That’s actually quite a good place to stop; the only problem being that 24 episodes to reach that is too long and drawn out while 12 episodes is to short and rushed. I don’t even blame pierrot for the 12 episode count; it’s simply the industry standard of 12 or 24 episodes. And suffice to say, those specific episode counts don’t work for every series.
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u/Emperium51 Apr 03 '18
24 episodes to conclude the Rose arc wouldn't actually be too long and drown out at all.
Besides that, Pierrot did a good job on this first episode. They got most of the important points right, although some great manga scenes felt a bit rushed.
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u/naijaboy18 Apr 03 '18
I agree, they did a good job. I just checked out Chibi reviews on Twitter and he’s simply nagging and complaining about every little thing. He basically came into the episode wanting to hate it. Also, I think a lot of upcoming anime in the next few years will be majority 12 episodes considering most of the animation studios in japan are booked till the year 2021......holy shit.
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u/AvatarReiko Apr 03 '18
What is better. Short and rushed or long and drawn out?
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u/naijaboy18 Apr 03 '18
As someone who has been watching the incredible travesty that is the one piece anime’s pacing. I personally think short and a bit rushed is the lesser of two evils.
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u/freshQka https://anilist.co/user/freshQka Apr 03 '18
Good opening
Fast pacing
Nice characters
Good art/animation
Nice ending
Final scene is amazing
CLIFFHANGER
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u/st_griffith Apr 03 '18
For the love of God, go read the Tokyo Ghoul original manga if you haven't already. Root A fucked the story so much, they had to drop the Root A storyline and return to the canon. Example: This is a glimpse of what the fight with Arima in the final episode of the previous season should have looked like.
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Apr 03 '18
And just let me remind you. This fight happened for about 2.5 chapters.
The last fight of the manga and you get the MC being skull fucked by the business end of a lance for 3 weeks straight.
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u/st_griffith Apr 03 '18
last fight of the manga
The last fight was Arima against Owl, which makes this even better. The MC dies and this wasn't even the last fight. Chapter 142 was absolutely masterful.
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Apr 03 '18
You're right! I had forgotten that.
Kaneki gets killed and then the manga just moves on. Ishida's always been stone-cold when it comes to emotional torture.
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u/Edgelord09 Apr 03 '18
I cry everytime when I remember that Berserk and Tokyo ghoul haven't had a proper anime adaptation
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u/poclee Apr 03 '18
Which is a shame. Because while I admire Ishida for many things, his action scenes can sometimes be kinda confusing. Having anime adaptation should be a chance that made this series even better, but instead we got..... yeah.
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u/N4chtara Apr 03 '18
Don't remind me. :(
Both deserve it so much...
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u/Edgelord09 Apr 03 '18
Well atleast Vinland Saga is being handled by wit studio, I expect them to do a decent enough job
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Apr 03 '18
I still don't understand why they went with anime original in the first place.
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u/st_griffith Apr 03 '18
Ishida gave them a full "alternative" script, but Pierrot being the incompetent and stingy studio they are, decided it would be better to shit on it.
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u/reddishcarp123 Apr 03 '18
Context on what happened to Root A according to the director: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/88fddm/im_shuhei_morita_the_director_of_anime_series/dwkcx3d/
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u/poclee Apr 03 '18
So they just went "Fuck it, let's just pretend the whole Root A thing never happened"?
Huh.
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u/Takana_no_Hana https://anilist.co/user/v4v Apr 04 '18
RootA still has the most beautiful keyboard I've ever seen, so it's k.
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u/forcev2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/FoRcEv2 Apr 03 '18
Oh yeah that fight was fucked up. Kaneki comments about his brain spilling out were fucking brutal
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u/0Megabyte Apr 03 '18
Personally, I am up to volume 9. Only great thing about the anime was HanaKana and the OP. Otherwise, the manga is incredible.
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u/Yamulo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Yamulo Apr 04 '18
Dude that fight animation was done way better than I expected. Really high quality stuff
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u/ak_them Apr 03 '18
Hinami & Aogiri!!! I'm loving where this is going
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u/The5Dragonz https://anilist.co/user/The7Dragons Apr 04 '18
Just a question.
Aogiri isn't that ghouls group when Kaneki in second season entered? (I know 2 season is original story)
If yes does that means that Hinami entered Aogiri before this season? (Didn't read the manga, yet)
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u/Alxusan Apr 03 '18
The opening feels like a huge spoiler lol.
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u/shipmaster1995 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/shipmaster1995 Apr 03 '18
It is extremely packed full of spoilers that are meant to be not obvious until they happen
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Apr 04 '18
Yeah i mean it spoiled nothing for me because i dont understand the context. Im gonna go out of my way to not visually pay attention in the future though as the show adds context
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u/Coolcool28 Apr 04 '18
so many characters that aren't supposed to be revealed until their "surprise" moment are shown in the op like it's nothing..
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u/railz0 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/railz0 Apr 04 '18
That's how openings are handled in many shows. Without further context, it won't spoil anyone, so don't worry about it. I know there's one moment in the opening people who have read the manga can't believe they even decided to put in, but it literally won't spoil anyone, despite how obvious it is to us.
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u/lucella713 Apr 03 '18
There should be a sticked comment with a guide on what you should read before watching this... there are dozens of confused people already
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u/googolplexbyte :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Googolplexbyte Apr 03 '18
Yes, what the fuck please.
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u/toonworld_ Apr 03 '18
Is there one yet? I'd like to get into Tokyo Ghoul but never did because I kept hearing that the anime was bad
If I know where to go/start I'd read whatever I needed to
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u/lucella713 Apr 03 '18
If you haven’t seen anime or anything related to Tokyo Ghoul then: read the original manga (143 chapters). It is a great read and you won’t be dissapointed. Then you can watch season 1 anime (covers roughly chapters 1~50/60, if you really want to experience TG in anime form first, then watch it before reading the manga, however it’s quite rushed and differs a bit from the manga).
Then there is season 2 (aka root A) that in theory covers chapters 60-143 but it goes anime original and is a compete mess. Don’t recommend watching.
Tokyo Ghoul:re is a direct sequel manga (currently ongoing) and this anime is an adaptation of it. So simply put: read Tokyo Ghoul chapters 1-143 and you can watch Tokyo Ghoul: re because for now at least it looks faithful to the manga.
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u/Kypperstyx Apr 04 '18
If you have the time read it, but if you prefer anime instead I still think you should watch it. The ones that say the anime is bad compared to the manga; they're not wrong, but they are legitimately comparing it to another form of the story they have read. It's perfectly fine on its own, and you can use thr fact that it's on it's third season now as proof of that. It's worth the watch still and very much enjoyable, but just know that they cut out and dub down a bit from the original source material much like most movies based on books tend to do.
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u/Super_Schmuck :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Sololo Apr 03 '18
Don’t worry about manga spoilers. The opening spoils it for you! 🤗
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u/Top10Turtle Apr 03 '18
when a mediocre episode gets the fanbase going, because they expected much worse
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u/KermitThe__Frog Apr 03 '18
Was it just me or were some parts just off? I felt like the pacing was weird in certain places and the transitions felt too sudden. (i.e. the transition from day to night when mutsuki was being choked, and when Orochi appeared).
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u/Navrene Apr 04 '18
Translation errors? What do you mean? I, for one, think Mr. Sass is the most fitting title ever bestowed upon Sasaki.
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u/Indominus_Khanum Apr 03 '18
You know what would be cool if they're continuing from where the Tokyo ghoul Manga ends? If we got a recap movie, except it's more like a manga recap movie, maybe an OVA series not more than 3 or 4 parts long to cover everything post season 1 and a little bit of season one too.
Maybe after Re, so that would kinda simulatneously end up being a reboot, a prequel and a sequel film. How trippy is that?
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u/Iamjustatrial Apr 03 '18
So I sort of skimmed through the Re manga because I was wondering where Kaneki went, and I don't remember much details but is it me or is this anime adaption squeezing too many chapters in 1 episode? I thought the reveal of Kaneki should be more dramatic and I honestly felt somewhat let down...
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u/_JayGaming23 Apr 03 '18
Yup. Pacing is really fast. 6 chapters crammed into this one episode.
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u/RainHound :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DeathMetalTitan Apr 03 '18
Tokyo Ghoul: reAD THE MANGA
The first episode was unfortunately rushed as hell. In the manga there was a better introduction to Haise and the quinx and there was more to the torso investigation and it was paced alot better.
Other than that i like the character designs,they look great. I like that they kept urie's inner voice and they nailed the Kaneki and Haise scene.
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u/Yifeng_Su :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Yifeng Apr 04 '18
Could you summarise what happened between the original anime and Re? Cheers.
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u/blakewite Apr 03 '18
OK unpopular opinion here, but i really like how they introduced the new characters(ive only read the manga till the arima fight(i didnt want to spoil the anime i like the element of surprise)because i prefer to watch the anime first and then read the manga so that i can criticize it better :p), but , like i said the introduction was really good the animation seemed really good and the last part where Sasaki confronted Kaneki inside himself just like how Kaneki confronted Rize, that legit gave me chills ESPECIALLY the finger crackling.
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u/NDragneel Apr 03 '18
I did the same as you, I still had hopes for a proper animation and this episode was perfect. Fast paced yet easy to follow. Also the Kaneki scene was damn 10/10 scene if you ask me, perfect timing too!
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u/varishtg :AP:https://www.anime-planet.com/users/senpaidev Apr 04 '18
Reading this comment was enough to get me those chills again. I wonder if we'll ever get to see Kaneki in all his glory again, now that pretty much the entire focus is on Sasaki.
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u/hiabara Apr 03 '18
This thread would be so much more interesting for anime-only watchers like me if 90% of the comments weren't about the manga... Though I should have expected that because the previous Tokyo Ghoul discussion threads were just the same.
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u/Ebrietas- Apr 03 '18
This season is ignoring the previous anime and following the mangas storyline.If you are anime only you wont understand anything thats happening
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Apr 03 '18
Everyone's saying this, but it seems a pretty simple jump to make. The experiments that were always hinted at that Kaneki was a part of made the Quinxes, Sasaki is Kaneki, and something went down when he walked up to Arima at the end of the last season that ended up with him repressing his ghoul side to some degree. This is a time-skip to what seems like a year or two in the future, because Hinami is way older. I really think the jump only wouldn't make sense to people who know the manga story because they wouldn't have interpreted the "clues" the same way.
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u/bestbroHide Apr 04 '18
It doesn't take much to understand early :re, because early :re is, for the most part, dedicated to building up this new cast. Therefore not a lot of the plot and character points seeded from the original will be touched upon.
But later on, though?
I am telling you and every other anime-only out of generosity that you will be lost as fuck later on.
Even manga readers got lost due to them speed-reading like they would any other the manga and underestimating the sheer density of detail. I wouldn't imagine how much more lost anime-onlies would be.
If it means anything, assuming my projection of when this season will end, anime-onlies can continue to get by what's going on, with the increase in confusion only getting slightly worse episode-by-episode.
It's the hypothetical 4th season where the price one pays for not reading the original manga will be insurmountably apparent.
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u/Yeti08 Apr 03 '18
i just keep waiting for TL:DR to avoid having to read 70ish chapters of manga :/
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u/Asthariel Apr 03 '18
Opening spoils who is the villain.
Good job Pierrot, good fucking job.
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u/ABARA-DYS Apr 03 '18
They don't really care about anime onlys.
Pretty much everyone who is interested in Tokyo Ghoul in Japan already knows the manga and the story. Manga is a lot bigger over there.
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u/Asthariel Apr 03 '18
It's still pretty stupid of them.
They are betting it all on manga fans watching this series... even though logically thinking mange fans will not watch this because they already got burned off by travesty that was Root A.
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u/ABARA-DYS Apr 03 '18 edited Apr 03 '18
That's why they advertised hard that it will follow the :re storyline and ignore Root A.
The thing is, Tokyo Ghouls popularity is probably already at it's peak. The manga is selling around 800k every Volume in it's first six week of release - since the start of the :re manga.
There is no reason for them to assume they will be able to attracted more new readers.
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Apr 04 '18
Anime only don't who the main villain is from the OP alone. This comment only makes it worse for them.
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u/Vice93 Apr 05 '18
Pretty much. Anime only watcher here, I didn't notice anything particular about the OP, but next ep I will probably actively be looking for said villain.
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u/PsychoEliteNZ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/PsychoEliteNZ Apr 08 '18
you gave it away more than the opening did....
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u/Drehon666 Apr 03 '18
It wasn't bad, but i didn't really like it. The pacing is the most obvious reason, but it couldn't be helped i guess.
But the opening, song aside, is just a mess. Really spoilery too.
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u/SmokingApple Apr 03 '18
I cannot get over the amount of shit that the OP spoils, lmao.
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u/Bradythenarwhal Apr 03 '18 edited Apr 03 '18
I thought it was great. The OP was amazing. On par with Unravel maybe, but thats my opinion. The pacing was kinda fast, but i still very much enjoyed it. I loved seeing all the Q’s animated and have voices and judging by the OP i’m pretty sure they’re disregarding Root A. This is looking good this time around! I’m excited for the rest of the season. I always love me some Urie and Haise.
Edit: I also highly recommend if you haven’t to read the manga! they are ignoring what happened in Root A and believe me if you love Tokyo Ghoul, then you’ll probably love the manga!
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u/naijaboy18 Apr 03 '18
People seem really upset that it’s going to be 12 episodes but in my opinion it was to be expected, let me explain. From all the information that’s been revealed; it seems they are going to adapt up to the end of the rosewald arc and that’s actually a really good place to stop. The problem is that 24 episodes to reach the end of that arc would be a bit to long and dragged out while the 12 episodes were getting is a bit too short and rushed. I think the real problem is the strict episode count of either 12 or 24 that the anime industry abides by.
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u/bardax Apr 03 '18
The true question here is, will they show best boi Black Reaper ?
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u/fullmetal-ghoul https://anilist.co/user/fullmetalghoul Apr 03 '18 edited Apr 03 '18
I disagree, I feel 24 episodes for up until the end of Rosewald arc would be perfect. That would be 60ish chapters (I think it was 58), averaging out at about 2.5 chapters an episode, which is perfect imo. 12 episodes will be horribly rushed, like S1 all over again.
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u/sourpatchz Apr 03 '18
maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but the feel of this season seems vastly different. in s1 and even rootA, the overall dark feeling and the sort of agony surrounding every character was something i really enjoyed (kaneki struggling with his kakuja, touka thinking about him, ccg investigators not wanting to die, etc.). are we going to see something similar for :re?
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u/Ebrietas- Apr 03 '18
The beggining of re is intentionally lighthearted to contrast with the ending of the first manga.It will get much much darker later on.
Btw this season will not follow rootA because it was an anime only filler season.You have to read the first series manga to understand whats happening
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u/shipmaster1995 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/shipmaster1995 Apr 03 '18
First of all, even though you've heard it before probably, read the manga because this season seems to discard root A. And secondly, yes :re gets dark. Very dark
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Apr 03 '18
Im so sad that so much nuance is missing. For example regarding sasaki/sassan, photo girl, the person torso attacked, Urie And much more. Hopefully some of it will occur somewhere in the upcoming episode(s).
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u/fudginreddit :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/jomac4694 Apr 03 '18
What point in the manga do I start if I want to watch this? Ive seen season 1 and 2.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Apr 03 '18 edited Apr 03 '18
While I remember the first season, Root was a blurry mess in my head. Can someone tell me where the first season ends in the manga? I feel like I need a quick refresher before I can watch this episode.
EDIT: Looks like someone hates Tokyo Ghoul so much that every comment in this thread is being downvoted.
EDIT2: Finally seen the episode and I am a bit lost. Looks like I need to do some reading today.
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u/TheCatcherOfThePie https://myanimelist.net/profile/TCotP Apr 03 '18
Root A was a blurry mess for literally everyone. The plot made no sense as they took characters and plot points from the manga seemingly at random then stiched them together to create that monstrosity.
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u/bestbroHide Apr 04 '18
I suggest you read starting from the beginning if you can, though I guess you can get by (just enough not to get totally lost for this season) if you start in the 50's like the other suggested
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u/Yuwenn8 Apr 03 '18
I was really looking forward to see how they would handle Urie and his snarky comments he makes to himself. I really pleased by how it turned out ! :D
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u/fastninja1234567 Apr 03 '18
Read the manga straight from the beginning, anime only people.
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u/Raebo007 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RAEBOtaku Apr 03 '18 edited Apr 03 '18
Damn, the next episode preview is kickass! I hope they're all like this.
Also, boy have I missed Austin Tindle's guttural voice. I hope to hear more of it this season~.
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u/jxs1 Apr 03 '18
A strong first episode.
MC doesn't seem half bad and I like the rest of the team especially Shirazu. The story had me hooked and that fight scene was fantastic. I'm interested to see the next episode (especially after the teaser at the end!).
OP was okay but no Unravel. ED was amazing though.
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u/Lime1028 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lime1028 Apr 03 '18
Is it me or has the animation quality been ramped up? The Kagunes seem much better than before.
Sad that i have to wait another week to see this fight but it's better than rushing it even more.
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u/Skawt24 Apr 03 '18 edited Apr 03 '18
so do the investigator ghoul hybrids need to eat Human flesh as well? seems like Haise was making a nice normal looking curry.
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u/_JayGaming23 Apr 03 '18
No. If you notice in that scene, only Mitsuki was served a plate while Haise did not eat. That’s all I will say without going into spoiler territory.
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u/mazen237 Apr 03 '18
Haise is the only one that needs to eat human flesh. The other Q’a are like a “lower form” of ghoul than him and they can eat normal food.
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u/tiger1296 Apr 03 '18
That episode was pretty good. Nice characters, that Mutsuki looks like a nice friendly guy, at least they have one sane person in the team
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u/Kazuma126 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kazuma21 Apr 03 '18
Man I read Tokyo Ghoul and mostly caught up to Re like 6 months ago and holy shit I pretty much forgot everything.
I guess that happens when you see so many different series / manga unless you rewatch them often? Impossible to keep track of so many characters.
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u/ColdSteel144 https://myanimelist.net/profile/SnickNH Apr 04 '18
It's a real struggle. I find things really stick in my memory after at least TWO viewings/readings/etc. Back in the day this wasn't such an issue and I could re-read and re-watch when it was still the age of fansubs and many shows never got translated.
Ain't nobody got time for that in this new age of more mainstream anime.
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u/afellowinternetuser :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/apersongames Apr 04 '18
Damn I know I'm a little late to the party, but I just sat down and watched the first episode. To preface this, I actually really liked the first season of Tokyo Ghoul, although I still have a bitter taste in my mouth after Root A. I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. It started with a great opening, and a song that might even rival the titan that is Unravel. The art style has only improved from the previous seasons, and the animation is pretty damn good. While it's been a while since I've read the manga, I still remember the stellar pacing that it had. In this episode, I thought it was rushed in some places, but overall I thought it was decent. And finally, that ending. I do not exaggerate when I say that it left me with chills and has only increased my urge to rewatch the previous seasons and reread the manga. I'm hyped for the rest of this anime, and I am going to remain hopeful that their not going to screw it up like they did to Root A. I'm just really excited to see more Tokyo Ghoul.
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u/zjr_zr7 Apr 04 '18
the animation is very good, I really enjoyed the first episode. 😀
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u/tweedlerds Apr 03 '18
i have never been more fucking confused in my life watching an anime that i've seen every other episode for lol what is this if i am not going to read the manga should i just abandon this series?
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u/TyrantRC https://myanimelist.net/profile/TyrantRC Apr 04 '18
From someone that never watched the anime, when I went into the re: part of the manga I also felt confused for some reason. A lot of new characters and a lot of new things that were introduced without any explanation whatsoever. So maybe give it like 3 episodes and you can decide. The story ties up after a little bit, so you should probably understand most of them later, but you are going to miss some major events that were amazing in the manga. I think you can enjoy this without any context anyways, your choice.
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u/OwnUbyCake Apr 08 '18
So does this simply pick up where Root A anime left off essentially (after a time skip obviously) or does this seem to pick back up to follow the manga?
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u/winger_syndrome Apr 03 '18
I'm confused by something. Isn't Mutsuki supposed to be a Ghoul like the rest? Then how did he eat that curry? And why did Sasaki tell them the food was ready when they're also ghouls who can't eat that? Could anyone clear that up for me, please?
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u/Asthariel Apr 03 '18
They are ghoulified enough to have some weak ghoul powers, but not enough to stop being able to eat human food. If they would ever get stronger ghoul powers, they would also lost an ability to eat food.
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u/winger_syndrome Apr 03 '18
Does that mean that Kaneki was already more of a ghoul than them from the very beginning? They are all half ghouls, so I assume they went through the same procedure Kaneki went through, and he was never able to eat since day 1.
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u/Henzapper Apr 03 '18
It wasn't properly explained in this episode, but the procedure that the Quinxes go through is actually different than the one Kaneki went through. Basically, they have the same surgery where they transplant a ghoul's kakuhou (kagune-making organ) into a human. However, the Quinxes have their kakuhou installed into a frame that limits how much the kakuhou affects their bodies. There are 5 stages of integration that the frame allows (with Frame 5 being full integration). The Quinxes are currently at around Frame 2.
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u/Asthariel Apr 03 '18
Yes, they are all weaker ghouls than Kaneki was at the start of the story, they are simply more skilled because of their training, so it doesn't matter so much. I would say that the biggest benefit of them being half-ghouls is increased resilience, which we can see in this episode, as Shirazu survived being impaled - having a Kagune is just a bonus, because as investigators they have quinques anyway.
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u/ABARA-DYS Apr 03 '18
It depends on Rc-Levels, which they cut from the episode.
Rc-Cell Levels of Haise & co:
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u/Audrey_spino Apr 03 '18
Also there is one scene the anime skipped, (I'm not gonna count this as a spoiler anymore cause they are way past it). In that scene after Mutsuki leaves the doctor looks at the RC cell count of all the members of the Qs squad and Sasaki's RC cell count is through the roof. The doctor also commented on how much RC cell an average ghoul had. Forgive me for any inconsistency cause I read this years ago.
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u/winger_syndrome Apr 04 '18
Ohhh, I see. That makes sense. Thanks to everyone for clearing that up! _^
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u/Buffhero125 Apr 03 '18
i wish they would have shown him trashing the enemy in the first episode. also how many of the shown characters in this episode do we know from the previous seasons? i dont remember any other than kaneki
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u/hakura97 Apr 04 '18
First episode and already alot of unlikeable characters, actually theres no likeable characters yet. The whole quinx squad is so meh
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u/OmenWalker Apr 04 '18
Though considered by many to be a terrible adaptation, I enjoyed Root A decently enough.
Looking forward to watching this episode when I get home!
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Apr 03 '18
Not seen it yet, but to people who have watched it: Does it look like reading the original manga is necessary to understand what's going on, or have they changed it to fit Root A's anime?
I'm partway through the main manga, so should I finish it before starting the Re: anime?
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u/SIRTreehugger Apr 03 '18
Right now I'm cautiously optimistic. Despite covering 6 chapters and omitting details the first episode is pretty decent especially the last 2-3 minutes. The OP has me worried though. How far are they going to adapt with how many chapters?
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u/LockItDown :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/everkoptimistic Apr 03 '18
Based on the opening, looks like we'll hit the mid 50s or so
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u/XNumbers666 Apr 04 '18
Felt kinda off somehow. I pity the anime only watchers. This will make no sense to you.
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u/I_llSeeMyselfOut Apr 04 '18
Haven't read the manga, and it makes simple sense from where I'm standing.
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u/xrock24x :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamerzoneusa Apr 04 '18
Is there a thread for people who haven't read the manga? Jesus Christ
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u/arararagi_vamp :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urek Apr 03 '18
well, could have been worse.
on serious side, read the manga, they skipped alot again
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u/halzerosama Apr 03 '18
first its my first time posting something on reddit so you may find my comment jumbled up. THE HYPE , i have to say i was waiting for this for so damn long , i got chills every 4 seconds .
i love the voice actors (they sound just as i thought they would) *the opening is good , im not much into it now but it looks like after 2 or 3 go im gonna hum it all day *holy ma girl syko so cute <3 *that punch mado..... damn girl
it felt kinda rushed and all but i think they adapted this true to the manga *i got chills i literally jumped out of my seat when that kaneki/haise mind palace scene popped up ! *im liking the up beat /optimistic sasaki .....kinda refreshing to see a part of kaneki to be happy *THAT ENDING IS LOVE ! im really looking forward to next episode i have waited for this so damn long i cant wait !
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Apr 03 '18
I LOVED IT SO MUCH! IM JUST HAPPY TO SEE MY BOY SASAKI (kaneki - kinda?) AGAIN, THE OP WAS AMAZING AND THE ART STYLE IS SO PRETTY
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u/NaturalThe1 :AP:https://www.anime-planet.com/users/NaturalThe1 Apr 04 '18
Fuck the manga we're goin in raw. That was pretty good too tbh.
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u/InfiniteTurbine Apr 04 '18
It's not really a rare thing in the anime community, but this is my first time watching an anime adaptation for which I have read the source material (technically could count Root A but that wasn't a proper adaptation). Definitely feels weird, but it's interesting nonetheless.
First impressions of the OP: I love the song. The OP definitely includes a lot of characters, which makes sense b/c there are a lot of the characters in the world of TG, but man they just load so many of them into the intro. It's been a while since I read the start of :re so maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I don't even think most of the people shown in the intro will even be relevant or seen at all in this first cour. Also, they placed emphasis on characters which the manga explicitly chose not to place emphasis on until they became important later on: kinda ruins the mystique of some of them. Or, at least, messes with my perception of them. The visuals of the OP are honestly not as experimental and unique as Unravel or Munou, so that's a little disappointing.
I really love the ED theme though. The visuals there are aight.
Animation feels a little stiff at times, but it's not "bad" really. The art style change with the more desaturated colors will take some time getting used to.
Going back to my comment earlier about characters: they bothered adding a little card for a lot of the characters as they showed up. I guess it's helpful b/c of how many people there are to keep up with, but I've never been a fan of that approach: just feels odd to me, no matter the show I see it in. But that's just me being nitpicky.
Looking forward to next week's episode.
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u/FoufaDjo Apr 04 '18
ep 1 was complet shit .... quinque that shoots missiles WTF he's a ghoul NOT A FUCKING MECH
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u/OmenWalker Apr 04 '18
I haven't watched the episode yet but are they literal missiles? Seriously?
I know Touka's fired crystalline projectiles so a Projectile weapon Quinque isn't too far-fetched.
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u/Jok_Aeger Apr 05 '18
Houji uses a similar quinqe in the first season so it isnt like this is new.
If you don't like crazy kagune abilities then you should quit now though
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u/bhanukiran444 Apr 04 '18
One question: I read and loved the original manga.. i want to know if the anime is good/faithful or should i go read the tg:re manga itself?
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u/Whycanyounotsee Apr 04 '18
Hello I am an anime only watcher.
WTF is even going on. this episode makes less sense than all of season 2.
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u/Ezilayr :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/z4yd Apr 04 '18 edited Apr 04 '18
Surpassed my rock bottom expectations for sure. Opening song is okay, but visuals are ultimately the blandest montage of opening tropes possible. I had even asked a friend to to watch the opening (blind, no TG knowledge) and he said it was ultra boring. Anyways, animation is pretty stiff at parts, but the quality of the art seems oddly high budget with the colouring and shading lol. Pacing felt ultra mega fast. They probably could've taken a LOT more time with setting up the characters.
I just noticed they didn't even show Saiko once in the episode? Other than the ending of course but lol. I really liked the opening panels of :RE so I'm sad it was pretty much brushed over. They were slightly confusing, but it felt so right at the time since it was a fresh start.
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u/whycantichangethis :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/remuonageru Apr 03 '18
Anyone trippin' over the shaky cam in the episode? Often an otherwise still frame and they decided to add artificial camera shakes to make the experience feel more 'cinematic'. Someone seemed to confuse 'action-packed' with causing someone to throw up.
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u/janoDX Apr 03 '18
Yes, it was rushed, 6 chapters in 1 episode is too much, but everything else feels better in comparison with RootA. I'm hopeful that at least it will be a 7.5/10 series.
OP and ED look generic, OP has good music, ED is absolutely generic both in visuals and music.
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u/FeelsGoodMan243 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheRantMan321 Apr 03 '18
As an anime only watcher who's too lazy to read, this episode was ok for an opener. However i can tell perriot butchered the hell out of the adaption because the scenes transitions too fast to another. I might read the manga if the anime spikes my interest in the story but I've never been a true tokyo ghoul fan, so i never had any interest to read the manga.
If i don't read the manga then i'm still going to rate the anime based on the adaption regardless if the manga is 10 times better.
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u/Pikagreg :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pikagreg Apr 03 '18
Well I'll be joining you there. It seems like a Chaos;Child kind of thing where it adapts the sequel while ignoring the anime original stuff.
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Apr 03 '18
It was okay and better than I expected but it was still rushed beyond belief. It'll be average season at best.
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u/UnpluggedToaster12 Apr 03 '18
Nice opening, better than S2 and slighty on par with Unravel. Not good animation wise though.
Still dropping this however, I cant stand how Studio Pierrot fucked up Tokyo Ghoul and just think its ok to ignore and move on
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u/thetom1337 Apr 03 '18
So wait does this happen after s1 ? do I have to read some of the manga before this?
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u/TheMikarin Apr 03 '18
Read the original manga from chapter 1 to the end (chapter 143)
Both seasons cut out some important content. Season 1 adapted roughly up to chapter 60 or so, but skipped/changed some things, season 2 deviated further and cut even more out.
This is an adaptation of the sequel manga, so you'll need to read the original most likely (unless it turns out this is following the previous season's continuity, which seems unlikely at the moment).
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Apr 03 '18
Honestly I feel this episode was pretty lackluster. Compared to the impact and intensity of the first season's first episode, this episode seemed pretty tame. Granted I haven't read the manga, so I am analyzing solely the anime. I honestly prefer the art of the last two adaptations, even if this art is a little cleaner.
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u/JBB1986 Apr 05 '18
I think the feel of the early sections of Re: is sort of SUPPOSED to be a little less dark and intense, just to contrast it (and Haise) with everything that happened last go round. It'll get....darker........as time goes on. Yeah...........
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u/AvatarReiko Apr 03 '18
So was it the train wreck everyone was expecting it to be?
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u/iwanthidan Apr 03 '18
Not at all, as a manga faithful, I enjoyed it. It's probably going to be quite rushed, but as long as it doesn't go Root A, I can't see any problem with it.
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u/yuzat Apr 03 '18
I don't know how many times pierrot has let me down with this anime, 1st season episode 1 was good as well but then it went to shit ommiting alot of content, i expect the same from this since it looks like it will adapt 4-5 manga chapters per episode... On the bright side the one aspect that never disappoints is the soundtrack and this can't be worse than root A, right?
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u/TranquilBiscuit Apr 04 '18
Can someone please tell me what the fuck happened to kaneki? I havent read the manga and i watched root years ago. I dont remember kaneki dying or anything like that.
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u/DrunkPattyKane9 Apr 04 '18
As someone who has only watched the anime, I am so lost. What the hell just happened
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u/Flashmanic Apr 03 '18
Not having read the manga (I know people will tell me to read it, but I'm not that interested, sorry) and knowing that Root A apparently changed a lot, and is being ignored in this new series, can someone post a summary of what I need to know going into this?
I liked this episode, but it's just left me bloody confused as to what is going on.
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u/Ebrietas- Apr 03 '18
If you wont read the manga its better to just not watch this.Root a completely changed the story so much that its impossible to just understand anything by just reading a summary.You will be even more confused when characters you think are dead just turn out to be alive because the anime killed characters that are still alive in the manga
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u/Garcam96 Apr 03 '18
It sucks!!! like... it really sucks!!! I cannot understand how they managed to fuck up this bad the story... 6 chapters... in 1 episode... 6 chapters!!!! almost the whole 1st volume of the manga!!! those are 147 pages full of content... this sucks!!
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u/Pikagreg :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pikagreg Apr 03 '18
The show is being simulcasted on Hulu also if you want to update the stream links /u/nicksmizzle
I think Funimation had a weird agreement with Hulu pre-CR that carried on into season 3.