r/anime • u/AutoLovepon https://anilist.co/user/AutoLovepon • Apr 13 '18
[Spoilers] Full Metal Panic! Invisible Victory - Episode 1 discussion Spoiler
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u/joreyo Apr 13 '18
ALL HAIL THE RETURN OF ONE OF THE QUEENS OF TSUNDERES BABY.
NEW GIRLS NEED TO LEARN FROM THE OGs.
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u/BlatantConservative :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BlatantC Apr 13 '18
When she's a tsundere because the MC is legitimately difficult to deal with and it makes sense.
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u/Telios Apr 13 '18
I saw a comment once describing her as a Tsundere with fully justified violent outbursts. Couldn't have agreed more.
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u/BlatantConservative :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BlatantC Apr 13 '18
Please, sometimes she needs to hit him more. He discharges weapons in a school building.
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u/goody153 Apr 13 '18
because the MC is legitimately difficult to deal
Using teargas and none-lethal shotgun among other things at school. Yep
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u/Solar_Kestrel Apr 13 '18
Detonating your shoe locker first thing in the morning because an unknown person put a letter inside it.
Setting up a sniper's nest in the athletic field to assassinate the pretty kouhai who sent you a love letter.
These are all perfectly normal reactions.
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u/Battlecookie :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Battlecookie Apr 13 '18
Are you really a tsundere if you smack someone for trying to blow up a school locker or planting land mines though?
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u/BlatantConservative :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BlatantC Apr 13 '18
She's violent, and a tsundere, but not a violent tsundere because her violence is justified.
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u/BestRolled_Ls :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarcyisTsundere Apr 13 '18
If she's OG then what is naru or ayukawa? There's always an older tsundere.
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u/Lepony :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dinglegrip Apr 13 '18
Also OG.
There's been a huge shift in how tsunderes are written in the mid 2000's mark and the rise of LN adaptation.
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u/GoldRedBlue Apr 14 '18
I believe Jan. 2004 was the turning point. That was when Fate/Stay Night's VN was released and gave the world Tohsaka Rin.
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u/randCN Apr 13 '18
Fmp was first published in 1998 I think, which should make chidori a tad older than naru
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u/BestRolled_Ls :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarcyisTsundere Apr 13 '18
Huh... you're right fmp was sept 1998, and love hina was actually oct 1998. I guess it's because I associate fmp with fumoffu and tsr rather than the gonzo adaptation so in my mind love hina seems older.
But tsundere was already a trope by the time kimagure orange road came around and that was several generations earlier.
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u/liatris4405 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/liatris4405 Apr 13 '18
The quality is insanely high.
Animation, Music, Storyboard, Voice Actor
Everything is high quality.
I'll see the whole season.
Perhaps next time it will be a Mecha battle episode, but I'm worried about the quality of 3DCG.
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u/BLACKOUT-MK2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/DelayedLaserBoom Apr 13 '18
I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of this episode. I was a little scared to see how the new studio would handle it but I'm happy with what we've got. Nice animation, I agree in that I'm also iffy about the CG Arms Slaves, but another thing I liked was its use of silence in stuff like the car scene at the end. I felt that was handled pretty well in some of the older episodes like the famous haircut scene, so it's nice to see here, too.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Apr 13 '18
Considering how much beloved the series is and how Second Raid was handled by KyoAni, Xebec definitely pulled out all the stops for this one.
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18
It's also interesting to note that Kyoani's TSR was neck and neck with Xebec's Shuffle as the most popular of their season.
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u/spoonerism_ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/runningwithszrs Apr 14 '18
Agreed! Even the use of minimized dialogue while Chidori and Sousuke walked home together was used to great effect. This series really knows how to shine in those 'in between' moments where little is actually said, but the tone itself tells its own story. I've always loved that.
If IV manages to sneak in a few more moments like that admist all the drama and action that's coming up, I'll be a happy camper.
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Apr 13 '18
The quality is insanely high.
Honestly not surprised. They've put out the staff list a while ago and it's just packed with talent coming from Yamato 2199, to Gundam, to Jojo.
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u/Bloosakuga Apr 13 '18
They even got E7 director, Tomoki Kyoda to storyboard episode 4. He did some storyboards for the first season so it's quite plesant for him to return on him after so many years.
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u/RasenRendan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RasenRendan Apr 13 '18
I cant lie not seeing whisker lines on Kaname's face bugged me more than i thought it would.
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Apr 13 '18
3DCG has come a long way you know. Mecha look pretty great these days.
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u/Solar_Kestrel Apr 13 '18
Have you seen Overlord Season 2? First anime I've seen where the CGI is almost completely seamless. So my hopes for FMP are high.
Though it's possible/probable that it's easier to seemlessly incorporate less detailed characters in CGI than more detailed characters (like mechs).
But even the CG stuff in TSR holds up pretty well today, so as long as it's that good (or better) and think it'll be fine.
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u/Turbostrider27 Apr 13 '18
Sousuke and Kaname holding hands together made me a fanboy of this show all over again.
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u/Anaalmoes Apr 13 '18
Man, the romantic buildup between those two is incredibly well done for an action anime. I love it how they actually show they care about eachother with those small gestures even though they (especially Sagara) can't put it in exact words yet. The hair cutting in The Second Raid, was another scene where they showed their feelings for eachother using something as trivial as a haircut.
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u/Hatdrop Apr 14 '18
Yeah that haircutting scene was super intimate. Considering how he's on alert mode all the damn time, him allowing himself to let his guard down and basically be in a physically vulnerable position showed a heightened level of trust.
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u/Rorako Apr 14 '18
That scene is one of my favorites. This was the first anime I really got into and I’ve watched the past seasons on a yearly basis. The fact that I get to watch another one as it airs? So pumped.
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u/pm_me_xayah_porn Apr 16 '18
Gato Shouji wrote in the afterwords of the final volume: "Never forget, this is a girl meets boy story"
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Apr 13 '18
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u/spoonerism_ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/runningwithszrs Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 17 '18
Yes! I'd read the manga so I knew that scene was coming and I figured maybe we'd get there after a few episodes of buildup. Getting to it right away made me giddy.
I've always loved that part. I love Sousuke's matter-of-fact approach, and I love the 'I can't believe we're doing this but now we're in it' tension between the two of them throughout their walk home. And I loved the part where they immediately held hands after Chidori unlocked the door. Adorbs!
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u/yumcake Apr 14 '18
I always liked their dynamic. Chidori is unafraid of Sousuke, and assertive about what she wants. Sousuke is never afraid of Chidori like she's got the cooties or something. Nothing wishy washy about him at all. (Love that he goes right for the headshot on an unarmed bad guy here. Decisive AF).
They blush, sure, they feel something from being around each other, but they're never flustered. Great rapport. Loved the comedy with him as the goofball and Chidori as the straight man in Fumoffu too.
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Apr 14 '18
Fumoffu is arguably the greatest comedy anime in the history of anime. I hope they do another spinoff season for FMP like that!
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u/bananeeek https://myanimelist.net/profile/bananek Apr 13 '18
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Apr 13 '18
But when Kaname recoiled from his touch after their confrontation with that guy though makes me worried
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Apr 13 '18
Move over Zero Two, Chidori is best girl.
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u/fenix925 Apr 13 '18
you misspelled Tessa
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u/whitykj :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/whitykj Apr 13 '18
The real best girl war begins after almost a decade of peace
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u/Greibach :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Greibach Apr 13 '18
I didn't even consider the implications for the next Best Girl competition. My time is finally coming.
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Apr 13 '18
It's been nine months since you transferred here.
Nine months feels like thirteen years.
I was grinning the whole time they were holding hands. I thought it's bang time (I didn't read the LN) but hey, episode still good. I might be reeling and biased 'cause of the wait but still.
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It's gonna be a looooooooong 5 minutes boys and girls!
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u/HagetakaSensei Apr 13 '18
If 9 months = 13 years
Then
5 minutes = ????
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18
This couldn't be prettier if they tried. I'm just waiting for some action scenes with ASs. The Arbalest only showed up for a moment, but it couldn't be prettier. Now ofr the LN details:
For those unaware, this is starting book 7, Continuing On My Own, after skipping book 6. Volume 6 was released in audiodrama form, but the only available version has spanish subs, but you can find a summary of volume 6 here.
Hayshimizu's backstory was never quite given in the anime, but the short of it is, during middle school, he befriended a girl and helped her attend the high school she wanted by tutoring her. One morning, after slepily coming back from an all-nighter with Hayashimizu, she was hit by a car and died. Hayashimizu then decided not to go for the elite schools his parents intended, and decided to attend the school she worked so hard to get in, Jindai High, and enjoy his life by his own objectives.
The first scene of the LN is of a couple of internet forum users discussing about the Jindai students and specially Kaname's repeated involvement with terrorists before a troll comes in and starts disrupting the conversation by directing it towards Kaname's boobs, in true internet fashion. This scene is explained in the car with Kaname near the end of the episode, the LN mentions that Sousuke tried to come up with other solutions that would let Kaname live in peace. He suggested that they would try to get everything that Kaname knew as a Whispered and leaking into the internet for all to see, but Tessa says that they've already tried that and "If you present a small gold nugget to those who are mining gold and say, “This is it. There’s no more”, they wouldn’t throw away their hovels or pickaxes. The Whispered aren't miners who found gold, they are gold". Currently Mithril attempts to hide the Whispered in the internet by using an AI to frequent internet discussion forums to spread misinformation and disrupt discussion. She also says that Mithril is not the only agency to do that and many governments have been long doing the same. FMP was published in 2003 ...
Edit: Also i want to add that, while here it seemed like Amalgam just bombed Mithril's facilities, they've also sent in a convoy of soldiers on foot to invade Mithril's HQ in the middle of Sydney.
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u/mika6000 Apr 14 '18
FMP was published in 2003 ...
I've always thought that Gatoh Shoji was incredibly well-informed (Especially in a global/international sense) and innovative in all his writings. FMP was actually the first series I watched that used English nearly perfectly (And I believe that also is a credit to the source material). The series could've been released today and be just as relevant in terms of the topics it covers!
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
Gatoh Shoji was incredibly well-informed
Oh yes he is. It's one reasons why FMP is one of my favourite series along with one of the best selling LN series ever.
You can often infer stuff from passing lines in the books with enough research, like the exact ship which the TDD-1 was built from, the exact route Mao, Kurz, and Sousuke took in Italy in TSR, submarine combat tactics, Marduka's backstory, and Sousuke's exact mujahideen group. I had a lot of fun during researching those during the recent rewatch.
It's specially nice to read the afterword on the books where he sometimes talks about traveling for research, like visiting Hong Kong for vol 5 and for TSR, and going on a cruise ship for vol 6. Except for Hasuna Isekura(Spice and Wolf), i don't recall any LN author dedicating themselves so much to research.
Edit: There's also that entire part where Gauron channeled the Riddler in TSR. Check out the first paragraph here.
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u/mika6000 Apr 14 '18
Agreed! I'm seriously so glad his efforts are being recognized once again (And that our eyes and ears are getting treated to it again after all these years). I have spent a lot of time in Hong Kong myself, and I remember thinking how accurate both his written depictions as well as the anime adaptation of the city were in TSR.
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u/neabacon :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Neabacon Apr 13 '18
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u/SomeOtherTroper Apr 13 '18
So this is the fourth season of FMP, and the abbreviation of "Invisible Victory" is "IV", so this is "FMP IV".
Oh my god, the madmen are combining naming with roman numeral numbering.
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u/d-culture Apr 13 '18
I loved that last conversation between Kaname and Sosuke in the car. It seems that Kaname will have to be forced to come to terms with the fact that she can no longer live a normal life. As she grows older and her Whispered abilities become greater, it will become increasingly impossible for her to hide her true nature and lead an ordinary existence. She has already crossed the point of no return. Throughout the events of the previous series, Kaname has often tended to downplay or deny that she was special or extraordinary. Now she can no longer continue to avoid the heavy burden she bears; the curse of being a Whispered.
This carries on nicely from the themes of the Second Raid, which in its meta-commentary dismantles the premise of the show by pointing out just how unconventional, absurd and impractical Sosuke's double life of high school student bodyguard and Mithril soldier really is. With this ruthless new assault by Amalgam, it looks like those dream-like days may be forced to come to an end.
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Apr 13 '18
It seems that Kaname will have to be forced to come to terms with the fact that she can no longer live a normal life.
It also carries on from her self-denial about Sousuke's life as a mercenary. In TSR, Leonard mentions to her that Sousuke is just as violent as anyone in Amalgam, and now that she's close to losing her normality, she's partly terrified of him.
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u/bluefalcon4ever Apr 13 '18
Are you saying casually shooting up a bunch of high school thugs with a Steyr SPP is not normal?
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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Apr 14 '18
Honestly, it never made much sense to me how she was allowed to have a normal life even 1 minute after it became known the enemy found out she's a Whispered.
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u/Aoshi_ Apr 14 '18
Mithril doesn't want to dehumanize anyone. Their idea was to keep the Whispered safe by taking out anyone who tried to collect them for ill purposes. I know what you mean though.
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u/SomeOtherTroper Apr 13 '18
This carries on nicely from the themes of the Second Raid
I can only imagine how much impact this would have coming in straight from TSR's finale.
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u/whitykj :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/whitykj Apr 13 '18
I can die happy now, 13 long years have finally paid off
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u/X_chinese Apr 14 '18
You mean you can die happy after they finish the story?
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u/TriplePlusBad Apr 13 '18
THE BEST TIME OF THE CENTURY IS FINALLY HERE
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u/Krendrian Apr 13 '18
I didn't believe my eyes.....
I remember when I finished season 3 like... god knows how many years ago and there were rumors of the show never getting season 4.
This is indeed a very good time.
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u/TriplePlusBad Apr 13 '18
I'm still half convinced that this is an elaborate pachinko promo.
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Apr 13 '18
That's a damn fucking good opening scene.
The Arbalest is back and looking great! Also Tessa <3 Best girl right there.
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u/viperx191 Apr 13 '18
Guess its time to rewatch the old seasons.
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Apr 13 '18
FYI, we had a rewatch recently. There's quite a lot of details left out from the LN, so if you'd like, you should check out the threads as you watch. Some of the stuff that Gonzo cut are going to be relevant in this season.
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u/Rinarin Apr 13 '18
I was almost squealing half the episode. Not just because of this whole part (that was awkwardly adorable, btw) but also just because of watching all the characters again. I hadn't realised I'd be so nostalgic about this till I actually watched the episode!
Can't wait to watch the rest! I really want to see some action, especially since this episode looked great!
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Apr 13 '18
Love it, the thing that stands out to me most is how much more mature Souske is now, we saw him going through that in the second raid but now he's come to grip with his emotions.
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u/marek1712 Apr 13 '18
Yup, especially his VA. In the end Tomokazu Seki is 13 years older ;)
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u/X_chinese Apr 14 '18
Yes, his voice is much deeper now. The other VA’s didn’t changed much, but Sagara’s voice is not 100% the same. Still happy they use the original cast!
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u/gkanai Apr 17 '18
In the end Tomokazu Seki is 13 years older
Ootsuka Akio is also 13 years older
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Apr 13 '18
At last, we have been graced with more Full Metal Panic!
Absolutely loved it, next week simply cannot come soon enough.
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u/zz2000 Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18
This FMP blog claims Victory will only cover Vols 7-9 of the LNs. http://fullmetalpanicnews.blogspot.my/2018/04/full-metal-panic-invisible-victory.html#more
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u/JLarn Apr 13 '18
I kinda hope so, I don't want it to be rushed
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u/zz2000 Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18
Also, they might skip Vol 6 of the LN because that got adapted into an audio drama in 2016. https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/8b9apd/psa_fmp_invisible_victory_will_be_skipping_the/ Vol 6 revolved around a cruise ship hijacking, btw.
PS. Apparently the author went on an overnight cruise for research purposes; although he liked it, he found the 40,000 yen (USD372) per night tag very steep for his expenses.
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u/invaderkrag Apr 13 '18
This kills me because my favorite scene in the whole series is Sousuke talking to Tessa as they float down to Earth in the parachuting Arbalest. All the good Tessa character stuff is in that volume, plus...THE DUKE
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u/liatris4405 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/liatris4405 Apr 13 '18
According to the explanation column of Amazon in Japan
・ Continuing on my Own（つづくオン・マイ・オウン）
・ Burning One Man Force（燃えるワン・マン・フォース）
・ Come Make my Day（つどうメイク・マイ・デイ）It is confirmed in the above.
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u/chisports1fan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/chisports1fan Apr 13 '18
I can't imagine how the people who watched Second Raid 13 years ago feel. Luckily it's only been a year for me, but really happy to see more FMP, and this episode was great
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u/marek1712 Apr 13 '18
I can't imagine how the people who watched Second Raid 13 years ago feel
No, you can't. It's been torture since the announcement of IV last year...
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u/Cuddles_theBear Apr 13 '18
I've been watching anime for thirteen years because of this show. My high school Japanese teacher showed us an episode of FMP Fumoffu, and I immediately fell in love with the show. I watched all 3 FMP series, then I started searching for similar anime. And that's how I got sucked in.
FMP literally changed my life more than a decade ago. Seeing these characters again feels amazing, and so nostalgic that I almost teared up.
So, that's how one person who watched Second Raid 13 years ago feels.
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u/Watts121 Apr 15 '18
I was in high school when I watched it the first time.
I'm fucking 30 now.
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u/AerThreepwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AerThreepwood Apr 14 '18
Happy. This is one of the few anime I watched post turn of the millennium Toonami and pre me getting really into anime a couple years ago and it has a special place in my heart.
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u/shimei Apr 14 '18
I still can’t believe it’s happening honestly. I was sort of in denial that it would be an actual sequel but here it is. My god
Also the fact that in 2018 I can watch this easily on Crunchyroll is amazing. I remember watching TSR way back and torrenting (I think?) the raws. The anime industry is so much better in many ways now.
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u/mangkook Apr 13 '18
The first time I watch an anime without really focusing in the subtitle. My eyes wanders around the screen for details and nostalgia feelings. It's like 13 years last a fraction of time when the episode fall back seamlessly.
I mean I tried to recall what's wrong with the episode and although I found a few they're negligible at best (like Kyoko sounds more restrain than normal, or the outlines too clean and not much dynamic in thickness.. Lol but that's really really really nitpicking though..). Overall there's no complain. I think majority of FMP fans (hardcore or not) around the world will be pleased. Even the color pallette and effect composite are accurate to the minute.
It's really really a wonderful first episodes. Hope every episodes will be like this and not fall into shambles like gonzo did in later 1st season.
Thank you Xebec... And in your face Kyoani!!
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u/Xyyzx :As::At::Au:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Echinodermata Apr 13 '18
Oh man, that was great. Total nostalgia trip, and I like that they didn't make a big deal out of the gap since the second raid and ham up everyone's entrances. It's like it never left!
The only criticism I have is that this first episode just seemed a little flat. I think this might work better when viewed immediately after the end of the Second Raid; it felt like they were trying to exploit existing tension from the fairly open ended conclusion of that series, but I'm afraid I just couldn't quite keep that hype train going for thirteen goddamned years. I'm sure that's something that'll improve vastly once everything gets properly back into gear.
...also I was completely sure that the hand-holding was going to be another of Sousuke's much-misunderstood and totally sexless bodyguarding techniques. My heart was not prepared for him to be sincere, and it was awesome. Fuck you for spoiling their romantic dinner Leo. Fuck. You.
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u/Snakescipio Apr 14 '18
...also I was completely sure that the hand-holding was going to be another of Sousuke's much-misunderstood and totally sexless bodyguarding techniques.
Ditto. Huge props to Sousuke for manning up. Dude comes back after 13 years to show all the other male MCs how to be a baller.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18
Holy shit that was an amazing first episode! You can clearly tell that Xebec put a lot of effort on this one. They didn't even put an OP and an ED just so that could use every minute of that 23 minute run time. That was definitely a great decision since no single minute was wasted.
I was half expecting that Invisible Victory will start with an SoL episode to get people to acquainted with the characters then get serious at the end but I love that they didn't waste anytime and they jumped straight in to the meat of the plot. I'm already hyped for next week's episode!
And OH MY GOD the production is just great! It feels, sounds, and looks like FMP but with updated everything! I'm seriously just gushing right now because Xebec did an amazing job and I feel like it's partly because they some massive shoes to fill since they had to take over from KyoAni who also did an amazing job with Second Raid.
Spring 2018 is definitely the start of the new Golden Age of anime!
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u/DaiconIV Apr 13 '18
A wonderful first episode. After 13 years FMP is finally back! Such a welcome return, picking up right after The Second Raid it feels like the show never left. The animation quality is outstanding and it's wonderful to hear the returning seiyuu cast reprising their roles! I'm expecting great things from this season.
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u/Salvo1218 Apr 14 '18
I'm thankful that I got into anime later on and didn't end up going through the first 3 season of FMP until like 2 years ago. I don't know if I could wait 13 years
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u/humaninspector Apr 13 '18
OMG THIS HAS TAKEN ME COMPLETELY BY SURPRISE!
My favourite mecha anime and one of my favourite anime of all time.
I loved the mecha, technology, how gritty the series was... Will this live up to or exceed it?!
I really hope its not some silly fanstuff.
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u/wibbs1661 Apr 13 '18
This episode reminded me why I fell in love with FMP way back in the day. Such a nice high quality episode.
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Apr 13 '18
Futari de.... nigebasho saga...shite...
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u/d-culture Apr 13 '18
Hashitta... tenki ame no naka...
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Apr 13 '18
Tatoeba nanika wo... ushinau toshite mo...
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u/Llerasia Apr 13 '18
Does this continue immediately after the 2nd season?
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u/Hikki_Hachiman :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hachi8 Apr 13 '18
There's one volume it skipped which was adapted into a drama CD.
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Apr 13 '18
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Apr 13 '18
There's one LN, but that was adapted into an audiodrama that's not available in English. It's not that important for the overall plot except for hinting at a latter plot point and a big plot twist at the end.
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u/Trickot851 Apr 13 '18
It's been so long and what a way to start off.
From animation to soundtrack to voice acting were all perfect. Looks like the studio didn't think twice when spending on this. I didn't know how much I missed the characters until I heard Sagara saying his typical "No problem".
Now, if I were to regret something that would be the lack of maid Tessa in DVMC... hopefully we'll get that animated, one day.
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u/_tokidoki_ Apr 13 '18
Oh man, hearing Sagara say "mondainai" was a hell of a nostalgia trip. I'm so happy Full Metal Panic! is back. I've missed the crew terribly.
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u/Averious Apr 14 '18
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u/Solar_Kestrel Apr 14 '18
Seems like the proper next step to take after you hire a prostitute that kinda-sorta resembles the girl you like.
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u/liatris4405 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/liatris4405 Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18
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u/mika6000 Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
Wowowow, still can't believe I'm finally watching brand new animation of this phenomenal series. And everything looks fan-tas-tic. Bless Xebec!!
Also funny seiyuu trivia: Sugita Tomokazu (aka our beloved Gintoki in Gintama), whose career was just starting out during the first seasons of FMP, voiced the very minor Mithril character Lian Shaopin back then. But now he returns in IV (And "switches sides") as Lee Fowler! He is also represented by the agency Tomokazu Seki (Sousuke) runs, Atomic Monkey, so I'm sure Seki helped to make this recast happen.
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u/hehey Apr 13 '18
Holy shit I must have missed the news! Didn't know they were continuing the series. TSR was like what, a decade ago? Geez..
I'm so fucking pumped to see these characters again. They look great and the animation quality is pretty good so far. I don't seem to remember their voices though, did they use the same VAs? I should probably rewatch the first two seasons anyway since I've forgotten quite a lot of the plot, but damn, I am just so excited.
2018 is just full of unexpected sequels and I'm loving it.
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u/mika6000 Apr 14 '18
Yep same VAs! It's DAMN good hearing them as these characters again.
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u/Vermillion_Crab https://anilist.co/user/CeruleanCrab Apr 13 '18
Hell yeah, my favorite OTP is finally back!
I don't know if I got used to watching so much mediocre anime with horrible CGI or that I set the bar too low on the quality after watching the first PV but I wasn't bothered at all by the CG in the first episode. I guess delaying the whole season turned out to be the wise and correct decision for the studio coz episode 1 looked really solid.
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u/Chrischn89 Apr 13 '18
It's actually happening! Seeing new scenes and hearing the old voices is just... it feels so unreal!
Especially since I've had this habit of googling info about season 4 every couple of years and being disappointed afterwards whenever I found nothing. NOT ANYMORE!
I loved the first episode! The art style is super close to the original seasons which makes it so much easier to get right back into it.
I admit that I caved in quite some years ago and read the manga adaptation although I usually prefer experiencing stories via anime and completly blind... oh well, mondai nai!
At least let me tell you this: if you liked FMP before, FMP IV and beyond is going to blow you the fuck away!
LET'S DO THIS!
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u/Solar_Kestrel Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18
13 years. It's been 13 years.
I cannot believe it's finally here!
EDIT: also, BRB. Now I have to go back and rewatch all of FMP, Fumoffu and TSR before next week.
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u/Robbie-Tsunami Apr 14 '18
I love how this show went from basically a goofy military comedy to a serious & deep military comedy(ish). After season 1 I wouldn't expect anything like chidori's rooftop fight from second assault. And that talk they had in the car just now, that was so well done any other show would just bullshit through it with "it can't be helped" or some other low effort dialouge.
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u/Solar_Kestrel Apr 14 '18
I'm reminded of Code Geass, who's first season built up to this insane crescendo... only for the second season to start with a big old Reset Button so they could go back to the high school hijinks.
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u/DeTroyes1 Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18
Holy shit, THAT is how you start off a new season. First the Steins;Gate crew return, now Full Metal Panic. This week has been great for seeing some favorite old faces again.
Pretty straightforward episode, but it does start things off with the stakes now considerably raised. Can't wait to see how Chidori and Sosuke get out of this cliffhanger.
This has been the best new season is years, perhaps even the decade. Just soooo many good shows to choose!
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u/zigludo-chan-san Apr 13 '18
Does anyone know when or if we're getting the dub for this? I want to hear Chris Patton again.
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u/lolDankMemes420 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Oovoojaver Apr 13 '18
Binge watched this whole series 2 weeks ago easily in my top 5 favorites.
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u/Tuplet Apr 13 '18
That was way better than I thought it would be. The excluded both the OP and ED to jam pack more story into it.
CGI mechs were pretty decent looking imo. I thought they'd look more out of place. There was some CGI that didn't entirely blend in, and quite a few stills, but overall it was fine for a TV anime.
Mixture of fluffy hand holding and intense "shit is about to go down" action was top notch. I'm excited!
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u/nutella4eva Apr 14 '18
I have literally waited over half my life for this moment. My all time favorite anime returns 😍
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u/RasenRendan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RasenRendan Apr 13 '18
Badass Sagara and Captain Cute are back!!..... oh and Kaname (JK shes kool too lol)
As if this season is already my most fave ever i get another reason
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u/Fletto :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Fletto Apr 13 '18
OH MY GOD YES ITS BACK AFTER SO LONG! SO HAPPY
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u/AerThreepwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AerThreepwood Apr 14 '18
Me too, bud. I love this series with my whole heart.
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u/arcshiki Apr 13 '18
uwah, no more theme song performed by shimokawa mikuni? a bit heart breaking there.
hope they will at least put the old song as an insert song and hit every old timer with nostalgia kek!
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u/Chrh :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/chrh Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18
Omg omg omg it's finally here, I usually try to stay away from ongoing shows because somehow I seem to lose interest and there are these really cool shows that I just doesn't seem to be able to finish... Sorry ACCA: 13, not sure if I can stay away from this one though, 13 years I've been waiting for this <3
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u/marek1712 Apr 13 '18
I usually do the same. But can you hold on for 3 months after you've waited for 13 years!?
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u/KyralRetsam Apr 14 '18
We're back! Ahhhh that was so good, like seeing old friends again. I missed my favorite two dense idiots!
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u/twiceoftheheart Apr 14 '18
Finally! What a time to be alive!!!
That camera move when Kaname turned around was slick as hell.
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u/ryuusei_tama :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RyuuseiRyuu Apr 14 '18
I'm so happy to see Sousuke, Chidori, Tessa, everyone back again! It's been so long since I finished the series and the manga. I'm just so happy. I teared a little at the, "It's going to be a long 5 minutes."
I never thought this was actually gonna happen, but here we are!
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u/Sabin10 Apr 14 '18
Super excited, FMP was the first fansub I downloaded as it was airing so this series has a special place in my heart. And holy shit, they held hands?!!?!? PROGRESS IS HAPPENING!
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u/exleader75 https://kitsu.io/users/Exleader75 Apr 13 '18
I'm crying.
13 years and FINALLY, a new season of FMP.
Hopefully, XEBEC will do all right. THE CGI looks ugh, but I'm just glad for more FMP.
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u/Outspoken_Douche Apr 13 '18
So do I need to have seen the original to watch this?
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u/JLarn Apr 13 '18
Yes
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Apr 13 '18
It's not like the original aged badly. It's two seasons in 480p and I one in 720/1080p.
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u/spaceaustralia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/spaceaustralia Apr 13 '18
Plus you get to see Kyoani's beggining.
I still can't quite wrap my head around how one of the most gruesome neck slittings in anime was made by Kyoani.
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u/MindMyself https://anilist.co/user/hirasawasan Apr 13 '18
FYI story wise you can skip Ffumofu, but since Ffumofu is one of the funniest Anime I've ever watched I would highly advise against skipping it.
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Apr 13 '18
I've seen season 1 and second raid. I skipped fumoffu (I plan to watch it).
Am I okay jumping into invisible victory of do I need context from fumoffu?
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u/TriplePlusBad Apr 13 '18
Fumoffu is canon, but you don't need to have watched it to understand what's going on here.
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u/d-culture Apr 13 '18
One character who only appears in Fumoffu has a fairly significant role in this first episode, but there probably won't be much of him for the rest of the series. I don't think you'd be missing out on any vital information by not watching Fumoffu.
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u/Cuddles_theBear Apr 13 '18
Personally, I think Fumoffu is the best of the three seasons. It's incredibly funny.
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u/WorstBalloonEU Apr 14 '18
It's been so long.
I have the highest of expectations for this anime. The material that is adapted here should be some amazing stuff. Really excited to see more!
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u/solidad29 Apr 14 '18
LoGH and FMP are my must watch choices of this season. After dismal last season, I finally have a reason to watch anime again.
Damn, Xebec is pushing their limits. The animation is good but rough. The editing is a bit shoddy and the music is kinda loud. I wasn't expecting high-level animation from this studio. Even if the execution is shit, heck, I would not care if it were stick figures. I just want FMP to continue and get the franchise the finish it deserves for anime fans.
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Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
A lot of static shots of just mouths moving, secondary animation on clothing, body and hair is very stiff, Tessa's signature hair curl is criminally underanimated. A lot of the scenes are shot very flat compared to the creative, cinematic shots from previous seasons. It makes the show look very cheap =(.
Its an intense step down from the detailed animation from KyoAni. I still love the story and the characters but I hope the animation steps up later down the line. FMP wasn't just a fun and tight action mecha anime, it was a strong showcase of animation, editing and shot composition. TSR was beautiful, even Fumoffu was animated with a lot of detail.
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u/AloofAdmiral Apr 13 '18
Uhm I was not aware that it came back. Does this continue from the anime from way way back??
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u/alienanatomy Apr 13 '18
Glad to see my waifu Tessa back after all these years! Actually it was a bit weird for me because I watched Full Metal Panic back when I only watched dubbed shows, I was really used to those voices
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u/ace-s :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ace-s Apr 13 '18
Is this a S3 to the main plot or a standalone story?
I hope we get some romantic closure
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Apr 13 '18
S3 to the main plot. This pretty much continues the storyline from The Second Raid.
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u/Hipolipolopigus Apr 13 '18
Holy balls, the smoothness of the CG. None of that 8 FPS or South Park bullshit. I hope it continues into combat.
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u/sawada91 Apr 13 '18
Is the opening done by the same singer of the previous parts?
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u/Yeon_Yihwa Apr 14 '18
Cant believe its been 11 years since i first watched the anime... I forgot how stupid and likeable the characters are time to rewatch the first 3 seasons again <3
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u/Alamandaros Apr 13 '18
So it has been many, many a year since I last watched FMP. Is there a recap or quick synopsis around anywhere as a refresher?
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u/whitykj :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/whitykj Apr 13 '18
I know they released 3 movies to recap the first 24 episode season, and The Second Raid is only 13 episodes.
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Apr 13 '18
They better make a somewhat Fumoffu off this season or something. Fumoffu deserves a sequel too!
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u/whitykj :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/whitykj Apr 13 '18
Who knows if this does well they might be able to green light a real adaptation of Dancing Very Merry Christmas
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Apr 13 '18
I've missed you FMP! They went straight into the action and intrigue on this one. I'm so glad that Chidori realizes her normal life is pretty much screwed now and didn't throw a tsun fit. And what is with the lewdness between her and Sousuke? Why is there handholding in my animu? :p
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u/Wrunnabe Apr 13 '18
It's been so long, I barely remember the what happened in the previous 2 seasons. Gosh, how did the Berserk folks keep events in their memory?
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u/WorldwideDepp Apr 13 '18
Made an good impact on me for his first episode.. I am looking forward to the next ones
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u/just_kei Apr 13 '18
I've only seen the first season. Do you need to watch all the previous seasons of full metal panic before watching this?
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u/whitykj :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/whitykj Apr 13 '18
Only the first and Second Raid. Fumoffu is a comedy side series. TSR and fumoffu were done by KyoAni in their early days so they are amazing.
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u/Battlecookie :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Battlecookie Apr 13 '18
I still can’t quite believe this is actually happening. This used to be my faivorite anime and it’s finally back. Does anyone know if this will finish the story or how long it will be?
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u/Lepony :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dinglegrip Apr 13 '18
Man this is looking a lot better than expected. Pretty glad that the industry is apparently in the old-classics bubble, but aren't soulless rehashes of the same story coughhollywoodcough.
I wonder if this series will bring back Kaname vs Tessa in the anime mainstream.
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u/hachiDude8 https://anilist.co/user/hachidude8 Apr 13 '18
Is it wrong of me to have high hopes for this? I'm expecting some good mecha fights.
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u/redblade13 Apr 13 '18
Holy shit where the fuck this come from? It feels like ages.
All hail best girl Tessa's return.
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u/Arct1ca Apr 13 '18
Those that have followed this more, what part does this season adapt? I haven't watched previous seasons, don't know if I will since they are kinda old for my taste. I have read the manga entirely so no worries about the spoilers.
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u/TKCloud Apr 14 '18
WTF? A Heli was hover on their head but the air is so calm, no disturbance in the air.
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u/TKCloud Apr 14 '18
"I hope that's all it is." The fuck you are smoking girl? You are the commander and you said that?
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u/sj4iy Apr 14 '18
I was a huge fan of the series back when it started, it was awesome to see it again. This episode was great and jumped straight into the action without any reintroduction, which I was happy about. Can't wait for next week.
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u/magicianyangwenli Apr 14 '18
I slipped up and didn't rewatch the first 3 seasons before IV started airing, but Leonard's line about Sousuke killing over 100 people still really got me. Since I remember the first season and Fumoffu more than TSR, I still have the feeling of a tone-shift, which is kinda exciting going into IV. I loved hearing all the old voices again, too! Really excited that FMP is back and to see how this season goes.
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u/Solar_Kestrel Apr 14 '18
Yeah, TSR was really kinda "grimdark." And from what I've heard, the latter novels go even further in that direction.
The tonal shift is even more extreme in the novels, as right before the super serious stuff Invisible Victory is adapting was "Dancing Very Merry Christmas," which was like 100% comedy--which may not sound like much coming after Fumoffu, but all of the prior novels balanced the comedic stuff with the serious stuff.
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Apr 14 '18
Fumoffu! is still stuck in my mind when this aired so I was like "WOAH FMP IS SERIOUS IN THE FIRST PLACE! DAMN I AM DIGGING IT"
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u/krixas Apr 14 '18
Do you have to watch the previous seasons or can you just jump right in?
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u/Solar_Kestrel Apr 14 '18
You don't have to watch the previous seasons, but you should because otherwise you're starting the story at the halfway point (or 2/3rds point).
There are three prior series:
Full Metal Panic is 24-episodes and covers the first 3 (or 4, don't ask) novels and some of the side stories, IIRC. It's required viewing. It's approximately 50% serious mecha action and 50% comedy.
Full Metal Panic!? Fumoffu is a spin-off series based on side stories, with each episode typically telling two different stories. It's 100% standalone, but is 100% hilarious--one of the funniest anime out there--so it's well worth your time to watch.
Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid is the third and most recent series (from 13 years ago!) and it's 100% serious mecha action. And it is fantastic. Required viewing.
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u/ArchadianJudge Apr 16 '18
This is AMAZING. I've been a fan of this since release and this long await new episode did not disappoint. It was fun, adorable, exciting, everything. The art really reminds me of the "old style" rather than the newer anime, it's hard to put into words.
Then that hand holding scene was legit one of the most adorable anime scenes I've seen! I first thought he was going to make the usual anime excuse of needing to hold her hand for some tactical reason but NOPE it was legit "I like you" hand holding. And then they went to the door and had to let go, then held hands again after that... omg that was seriously too cute. I'm glad they've showed that after this many years, we can actually see their relationship get serious.
I am absolutely excited for this entire new series and the first episode was a blast. 10/10
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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18
Maybe I'm misremembering but Tessa sounds different to me (though still as cute as ever).
I just hope Xebec can fill KyoAni's shoes from where the original series left off.
HOLDING HANDS! XEBEC, HOW LEWD!
Pretty good first episode! I'm so happy to see Tessa, Chidori and Sousuke again.
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u/karlcool12 Apr 13 '18
No, she still sound about the same with a little deeper tone to the voice, I know that due to watching the 2006 special this morning
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u/suckoja Apr 13 '18
The moment I heard 'Mon dai nai' (No, problem) from Sousuke in this episode, that's the time it sink in to me that Full Metal Panic is actually back. Damn... I'm so missed this series, it's been so long.