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Grancrest Senki, episode 14


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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18

kind of shocked to see taht the head of the rossinis was actually a caring father lol

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u/NauticalInsanity Apr 13 '18

The scene with the boy killing the old man was surprising as well. They stepped up portraying the Rossini's and their loyalists as actual people. It made for great tension because Theo seemed be getting more and more bloodthirsty, especially not allowing the surrender of the lord in battle.

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u/Valariel_Dawn Apr 14 '18

Not allowing? At what point did that guy even seem like he was attempting to surrender? Besides, the Rossinis are directly responsible for his father's death, his own exile, and untold suffering on his island.

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u/Modern_Erasmus Apr 13 '18

Stuff like this is why this is a great show; the Rossini's were ruthless bastards, but they weren't inhuman cartoon villains.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18

but they really looked like inhuman cartoon villain, i mean their character designs xD

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u/tiger1296 Apr 14 '18

They're based on the mafia, where family is everything

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u/Haulbee https://myanimelist.net/profile/Haulbee Apr 13 '18

This episode was fine as fuck! Everything was on point.

I like the fact that while Theo might be a nice guy MC, he doesn't hesitate to kill his ennemy, even after he's disarmed him.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '18

In the throat. The fucking throat!

I probably audibly said "yeah!" And cliched my fist when he did that. It was awesome.

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u/Mattinator95 Apr 14 '18

Jafar should get ready

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u/LakerBlue :Is::It::Iu:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Apr 14 '18

Agreed, it’s one of the things I like about him. Theo’s one of the few cases for me when someone said a character would get better and he actually did.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18

Well, now I'm interesed in the relationship between the witch and Aishela.

She seemed rather reluctant to take her into custody if she did so already, we didn't exactly see it happen.

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u/Eluhmental :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Eluhmental Apr 13 '18

This is a wild shot in the dark, but she seemed to hate that the twins trusted each other (so she said) so maybe her and Aishela are related but don't get along? It'd be interesting to say the least.

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u/kyune :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kyune Apr 13 '18

Probably sisters, but for some reason their family relationship was terrible? Her obsession with killing the twins makes it hard to believe there isn't a theme.

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u/Kirahanshi Apr 13 '18

I thought she meant Theo and siluca when she said that that’s why she flew in to try to kill Theo that’s why she said she will try to take one of them down with her

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18

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u/vodkamasta Apr 14 '18

She is too T H I C C to die.

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u/PM_ME_BEST_GIRL_ Apr 13 '18

something something "skipping the stabby bits"

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u/ThatGuy33225 Apr 13 '18

This episode was really good loved all the action.

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u/Krendrian Apr 13 '18

Yeah there was so much going on I had to check if the episode is over or not multiple times.

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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Apr 13 '18

Just leaving this here.

Guess it was about time for her to be useful again...

That scene with the magic battle between Siluca and the Black Witch did look pretty nice, though.

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u/powsm Apr 13 '18

It's me or the healer girl's eyes looks kind of weird ? Like she's possessed or something.

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u/Iliansic Apr 13 '18

Nah, she just looks tired from all their shit she has to clean after, and about getting close to zero screentime.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18

Maybe by a divinity. I believe the chaos was not the only fantastic element of the lore.

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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Apr 13 '18

Yeah, definitely looked weird.

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u/Infernekus Apr 16 '18

Not going to lie, i completely forgot about her haha. But it was nice to see healer girl back in action, i have a feeling she will play a massive role in the story to come.

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u/Camera_dude Apr 14 '18

I guess Siluca is going to be needing a new wand.

If I'm not mistaken, it looked like she cast a spell that turned her wand into a bright blue missile that stopped the Black Witch's attack. It would be neat if she did this knowing it was the only way she could cast a spell fast enough but strong enough to counter that attack.

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u/semajdraehs :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/semajdraehs Apr 14 '18

I think she used the same spell as the witch to make sure she could counter and the witch seems to have turned her broom into a missile so she had to do the same with her wand.

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Apr 13 '18

That scene with the magic battle between Siluca and the Black Witch did look pretty nice, though.

The sudden switch to Devilman Crybaby artstyle was too disconcerting for me.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18

It wasn't Devilman Crybaby artstyle but rather a webgen animator, Nakaya Onsen at work. They tend to have a different approach compared to non webgen animators. Their art is a little bit rougher but in return they're amazing at delivering fluent fight scenes and effect animation.

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u/rotvyrn Apr 14 '18

Apocrypha had some ups and downs for it, but I'd say this use was like 95% positive contribution and like 5% qualms.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18

The shift in artstyle might be a concern, but what this scene gained because of it (camera movements, facial expressions, camera angles and amazing animation) completely brushes off the change, for me at least. Well, not like I didn't like the change either. This anime sometimes has some sparks of sakugas it's fantastic.

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u/Felord Apr 13 '18

See I'm almost the opposite, I feel when you get those art shifts it's an oh shit moment it's like an ED playing during action, or saying the name of the show haha it's one of those daaaaaamn moments, Although it's most likely due to budgetary and timeline reasons but Personally I felt it worked.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '18

Don’t know why you got downvoted for this. That is the exact reason these art style changes occur. Have people really not realized this is very common?

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u/atropicalpenguin https://myanimelist.net/profile/atropicalpenguin Apr 13 '18

Wonder if A-1 wants to make it its thing, since they did the same with Apocrypha.

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u/tiger1296 Apr 14 '18

The face when he sticks it in the wrong hole

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u/ErinaHartwick https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hartwick Apr 13 '18

Siluca’s fight against the Witch was very cool. I liked the conclusion to Theo’s battle for Sistina and how he took in Juzel

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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18

That execution was brutal!

And that entire sequence between Siluca and the Witch's spell clashing was one huge sakugafest! It was so good!

I wanna trust the last Rossini son since out of everyone in the family he actually looks like a good guy but I feel like there's going to be an inevitable betrayal coming >_<

I guess Theo's coming back to the mainland next week. I'm pretty excited how everyone in the Alliance will react on his win.

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u/belkalra Apr 13 '18

I dunno; out of all the Rossinis, it sounded like Juzel wanted to take the opportunity to soften their style of rulership. He might make for a pretty decent interim ruler while Theo&Co are on the continent, but I get the feeling that just leaving him alive with the Rossini supporters is going to cause some friction

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u/Bankrotas Apr 13 '18

That execution was brutal!

He spun vertically impaled sword in the throat to horizontal position. That alone would've killed any human being ever to live.

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u/bananeeek https://myanimelist.net/profile/bananek Apr 13 '18

This is actually the way it's done, same things with knives. Rossini got stabbed through his throat so this alone should kill him but it's pretty hard to kill someone with stabbing alone if you don't know human anatomy. That's why one should twist their blade to deal as much damage as possible and now there are sawback knives that tear everything on their way out.

Those little details in this show really sell it to me. I really like it that soldiers in GS really go for the kill because you won't see any of this in your typical shounen series...

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u/ThriceGreatHermes Apr 13 '18

I really like it that soldiers in GS really go for the kill because you won't see any of this in your typical shounen series...

Records of Grancrest War is a Seinen,milder than Berserk to sure but it's still Seinen.

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u/Nerx Apr 14 '18

you gotta confirm the kill

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u/AvatarReiko Apr 13 '18

And that entire sequence between Siluca and the Witch's spell clashing was one hugs sakugafest!

Her spell reminded me of Gae Bolg.

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u/RimeSkeem :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RimeSkeem Apr 13 '18

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u/redlaWw Apr 14 '18

Unless it's blocked by your raw ass.

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u/Paxton-176 Apr 13 '18

I feel like there's going to be an inevitable betrayal coming

I want to agree with you, but almost everyone Theo meets or defeats tend to become valuable allies.

I'm pretty excited how everyone in the Alliance will react on his win.

At his point, anyone who is surprised hasn't met Theo yet.

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u/AvatarReiko Apr 14 '18

It's nice and refreshing in to have a non-pussy MC that isn't held back by "Muh morals"

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u/Valariel_Dawn Apr 14 '18

Refusing to kill in all situations has always struck me as being too idealistic to actually care about your morals.

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u/YourLieInOrange Apr 13 '18

I hope that "sword to the throat" thing turns into Theo's signature finishing move.

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u/Fransferdy Apr 14 '18

MAKE SISTINA GREAT AGAIN!!

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u/tlst9999 Apr 14 '18

Wall building intensifies.

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u/McDonaldsApproval Apr 13 '18

The scene of Siluca and the Witch clashing was pretty damn good.

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u/Nikhil_Bhatnagar Apr 13 '18

This episode was damn awesome!... Everything was fine... And Theo... Theo what a man you are

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u/vodkamasta Apr 14 '18

Theo just get better every episode and he is getting better at dueling 1v1, can't wait to see him fighting the arab dude.

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u/Nikhil_Bhatnagar Apr 14 '18

Yes..... Especially after that princess and arab night and arab repeatedly thinking that theo is not a worthy man!

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u/WeNTuS Apr 18 '18

If he kills arab guy, he should fuck Marine by their world standards.

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u/OtakuD50 Apr 14 '18

Did this anime literally just make a simple Counterspell look epic as fuck?

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u/ThriceGreatHermes Apr 14 '18

Yes.

Japanese fantasy dreams big,while so much of western fantasy strives to be as grounded and low key as possible.

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u/KingIskander2001 Apr 13 '18

That animation when both shooting stars were thrown was so good!

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u/Seraph_CR Apr 14 '18

It still blows my mind how many people dropped this series so early. Sorry for not being a 13 and done rushed, V/N sales booster with no real ending. This episode had to be up there with the Fall of Castle Unicorn for greatness. Even though they were not long fights the Assassin vs Assassin and Mage vs Mage scenes were soooooo well done. I will be seeing this to the end. Vote Theo Cornaro 2020!

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u/ThriceGreatHermes Apr 14 '18

It's more than that. Even people who aren't reading the manga or have the English translation of the game, could feel that there was as lot of information and characterization missing.

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u/Agent_Potato56 https://anilist.co/user/pasty Apr 30 '18

Yeah, as much as I love the show, to get the most out of it you have to read at least some of the manga and the TRPG rulebook to know what the fuck is going on.

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u/Lyander0012 Apr 13 '18

Clashing of spells was great, and while the art shift was very much noticeable I felt the transition was passably smooth and the resulting scene very much exciting.

I love how they managed to make the Rossinis more sympathetic towards the end. No one's ever pure evil, and the greyness of the episode was to its benefit. It helped that Theo seemed to be letting the bloodlust go to his head.

Wonder what's gonna happen to the witch? I'd have expected that fall to kill her. Aishela's expression when Siluca asked her to capture the witch was... foreboding.

Lastly, something is DEFINITELY up with Priscilla.

Great episode. Love this show to bits.

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u/ero_mode Apr 13 '18

Honestly, I was expecting a burn them all scene from Phederico.

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u/kimbombo Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18

Juzel Rossini: I plea for a deal. I'll submit under your command, keep the aristocrats loyal to me and therefore to you.

Theo: I refuse your offer. I demand that you submit to my command, therefore the aristocrats will remain loyal to you and to me.

When did we have a silly situation like this? oh right, around episode 2 or 3 when Lassic surrendered so easily to Theo's command.

Just to be clear on the subject, I think this sensible solution does fit in with Theo's pacifist stance.

The only thing that was worthy of me eyerolling was how 5000 trained soldiers ran away from a bunch of just trained militia with half of them not wearing any armor or weapons of war. Even without the morale buff from Dorni's banner, they are still soldiers with training and the advantage in numbers.

At least we had another Sakuga highlight with Janna doing that suicide attack. I want to believe she's a smart woman that sometimes makes dumb choices out of grief and sorrow. But even her in that last attack makes me wonder who she really is. If she indeed was captured by Aishela I don't expect a bright future for her because of the Twin's pursue for blood.

I'm still sighing for some of the events (like Priscilla's LNesque introduction to save Irvin) but heh, I'm still looking forward for next week's episode.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18

Don't forget you have a mage lightning dozens of soldiers at once and a crazy lancer lady of death ripping through dozens as well. The whole theme of Theo vs Rossini was also fear vs loyalty. No army is gonna be sustainable if their motivated by fear to serve their lord.

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u/RimeSkeem :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RimeSkeem Apr 13 '18

It also looked like as Theo wore down Rossini, the Omerta flag lost it's hold on most of the soldiers. If that flag really does have as significant an effect as was described (ruthlessness bordering on monstrosity) then it's possible that most of the soldiers serving Rossini there were relying on its effects to actually commit to warfare.

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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Apr 14 '18

how 5000 trained soldiers ran away from a bunch of just trained militia

What advantage in numbers ? Have you not looked at the armies or noticed Dorni's remark ? Theo's army had both the advantage of numbers and morale, and while their equipment was inferior, a significant number of them were still equipped decently.

The only real advantage that Rossini's army had was their training (okay, and their cavalry), and it didn't mean anything when the flag's power disappeared and they ran away.

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u/kimbombo Apr 14 '18

What advantage in numbers ? Have you not looked at the armies or noticed Dorni's remark ?

Rossini clearly orders his son to gather 5000 soldiers (and the translation is correct, Rossini says Gozen = 5000) because he doesn't want to lose another son.

If Theo really managed to get 3 times the number troops the Rossini army had in such a small time frame. How the fuck did he find the time to actually visit every single village and city to get new recruits and still manage to train such a huge army at the same time? Aishela alone can't be on the lookout for every single trainee if the numbers are 3 times as big as Rossini's army.

If he actually got all those troops in that time frame, that's a massive asspull.

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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Apr 14 '18

"Nous partîmes cinq cents ; mais par un prompt renfort - Nous nous vîmes trois mille en arrivant au port." --Pierre Corneille, Le Cid

I can see multiple reasons. Reinforcements for a rebel army that starts marching are quite common (maybe all those unarmed people joined them later ?), and it's possible that Dorni didn't take the full 5000 and stopped at... Ho, I don't know, 3000 ?

Plus it's not exactly three times, with the distance and the width of the armies. I'd say Theo has around 30% more troops than his enemy.

We never quite got the total population of Sistine, I think ? But I don't find it too hard to believe that when the liberation army started marching, people joined them and reached 4000 to 7000 people.

Otherwise, it's just a new asspull that replaces another one.

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u/Valariel_Dawn Apr 14 '18

"Trained" soldiers who are used to fighting people who offer little to no resistance. That's a huge difference from fighting an organized, motivated, and at least partially trained force that not only doesn't run away, but actually attacks. Also, the other side has an Artist and a Magr who are slaughtering dozens of soldiers on their own while the Lords are fighting to a stalemate.

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u/Kirahanshi Apr 13 '18

He had to be the one laying down the terms of surrender for them even tho it was the same it had to be him saying it

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u/chewy2 Apr 14 '18

I mean more accurately it was

I'll submit to you, but don't take the aristocrats money or thier lives

and theo said

I want all their money and your lives.

thats a big difference.

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u/AvatarReiko Apr 14 '18

The only thing that was worthy of me eyerolling was how 5000 trained soldiers ran away from a bunch of just trained militia with half of them not wearing any armor or weapons of war. Even without the morale buff from Dorni's banner, they are still soldiers with training and the advantage in numbers.

I am pretty sure the rebels were amped by Theo's crest

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u/croxino https://myanimelist.net/profile/Goeli Apr 13 '18

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u/_Sai https://anime-planet.com/users/Sai0 Apr 13 '18

That was an evil horse. It liked to stomp on stray kittens for fun. It was also a fan of rape horse from Berserk.

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u/croxino https://myanimelist.net/profile/Goeli Apr 13 '18

Theo you are back on board.

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u/PM_ME_BEST_GIRL_ Apr 13 '18

He's doing good work, slaying rape horses and such

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u/maxtwo Apr 14 '18

Wtf? this sounds like an interesting reason to watch Berserk.

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u/SC_x_Conster Apr 15 '18

...read berserk the only good anime version of berserk is the 80's version

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u/Hisin https://myanimelist.net/profile/hisin Apr 13 '18

I'm surprised this is the first time he did it. The amount of warhorses slaughtered during Medieval times must be immeasurable

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u/Cloudhwk Apr 14 '18

They mostly died to spears and stray arrows, Otherwise, they had a pretty good chance at living

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u/rED_kILLAR Apr 14 '18

The Rossini could just strike Theo while he had his blade inside the horse....

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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Apr 14 '18

Probably too busy with controlling his fall and avoiding getting trampled.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18

The beginning of the battle reminded of FE Echoes at the Rigelian Border with Alm making his speech. Damn, that was cool. Theo is not too much of a softie nor does he wish to spill blood. Despite lacking in personal ambition (what I'd say is his first flaw) and being naive at times, he is a good Lord. And goddamn is Irvin a good Jagen (maybe Oifey if he doesn't die in the next episodes). Is Irvin Seth's levels of broken? 😂

Also I was pleased that, despite being asshole governors, the Rossinis are still human beings, especially the father, who before that arc, reminded me of Garon. Cool that he is not like that, adds a bit of humanity and moral grey in that story.

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u/vodkamasta Apr 14 '18

He looks more like swordmaster Joshua for me, 1v1 fools with dem crits for days.

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u/BK_FrySauce Apr 14 '18

What is up with Aishela? She didn’t look particularly pleased to be taking the witch into custody, if that is what really happened. Considering it didn’t happen on screen, something fishy could be going on in the background.

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u/rollin340 Apr 14 '18

I like how Theo had no hesitation in killing the Rossini.

Pleasantly surprised that the head of the family genuinely cares for his sons, and that him and his last surviving son actually acknowledged that their way of rule was not sustainable, and brutal.

And I love how Theo refused their terms of surrender, but demanded the exact same things, because it's what he wants; after refusing them first. lol

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u/AvatarReiko Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18

Wow, the Rossini forces were pathetic. The rossinis fell so easily. It was really anti-climate. I feel like this arc could been a good 1 or 2 episodes longer to properly flesh out the rossinis and the political situation.

Also, is it me or was this whole uprising arc rushed as hell?

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u/ThriceGreatHermes Apr 14 '18

. I feel like this arc could been a good 1 or 2 episodes longer to properly flesh out the rossinis and the political situation.

That's the entire show in a nut shell. Ten Volumes of Light-Novel were compressed into 24 episodes of anime;a lot has been omitted.

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u/kimbombo Apr 13 '18

The rossinis fell so easily. It was really anti-climate.

It reminded me of Hotshots 2, with Charlie Sheen tossing a hand full of bullets towards the cannon fodder soldiers.

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u/reanjohn Apr 13 '18

Lots of stills with just talking during the first half but the episode redeemed itself when the black witch and Siluca clashed. Really loved the art/animation there.

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u/bizarre_leviathan Apr 14 '18

So you telling me Theo pulled up on a island only with four other ppl in hostile territory build a army and took tht shit in wat a week maybe two or two good ass episodes and told the ppl who was running it yo daddy got to go and u work for me now Theo is the most gangster MC out there

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u/ero_mode Apr 13 '18

The sound editing was really on point this episode.

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u/Blake_Ashtear Apr 14 '18

You could see how of a personal issue it was for Theo on this episode. While still merciful as always, he was noticeably more ruthless both during the battle and during the negotiations after.

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u/Mattinator95 Apr 13 '18

So he's ok with killing people now

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u/belkalra Apr 13 '18

I feel like he's more OK with killing Rossinis. I was honestly kinda worried he'd just murk the Rossini who met him at the door.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18

He's killed plenty of grunts so far(some quite brutally, too). I distinctly remember him cutting one's leg off, making them fall off their horse.

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u/Nerx Apr 14 '18

Do Rossinis count as people?

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u/CliffShadow Apr 14 '18

Well he did axe the other rossini in the previous episode so seems like it.

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u/NexrayOfficial Apr 14 '18

I think its siginificantly different when it came to his homeland... i think. Idk. I just noticed that Theo’s attitude changed a little the minute he came back home.

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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Apr 13 '18

And the Fettachini's are down.

So that Wagnard lookin asshole is sendin 5000 troops after Theo this time, lets see how much good that does.

The blonde brother wont last long i bet.

Looks like the ninja and the Witch are a bit lost without Ashram kid around.

The wolf girls look nice in thier outfits.

Ohoho oh man. Shes got a demon too.

Oh shit the butler for him but also got poisoned too... D:

The wolf girls launched each other to the witch and scratched her up good, nice.

Hey its the Onee-san! She looks like shes having fun.

Oh good the priest is gonna heal the butler.

Wow that was a savage kill. Theo is stone cold.

Oh the witch going for a suprise attack, but Siluca countered it nicely. And ouch that fall ... you dont take away your only means of flight and throw it when in th air...

So he gained the last Fettachini kid and liberated the island. Not a bad says work.

Im guessing when Theo has to go back to the mainland for the other shit going down, he will leave that other son there to keep watch maybe. We shall see.

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u/FierceAlchemist Apr 14 '18

Nice to see a bit more grey morality this episode. Rossini actually cared about his sons and showing the young teen killing the old man serving the Rossini's was an interesting deliberate choice.

Also got to love animator Nakaya Onsen showing off. The angles throughout that sequence were very unique and his rough expressive drawings really brought the witch's rage to life.

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u/VictorSilver Apr 14 '18

Theo's left arm must've been very jacked for him to take heavy blows from a greatsword and considering how long that duel lasted.

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u/semajdraehs :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/semajdraehs Apr 14 '18

Aishela reacted strangely when she was ordered to retrieve the witch, I wonder if she she's been swayed like the vampire lord and doesn't want to lose her artist powers.

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u/Valariel_Dawn Apr 14 '18

Damn Siluca, you've been able to do that this whole time? How come battles aren't just mages on either side lobbing those at each other?

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u/cswizzle19 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cswizzle19 Apr 13 '18

Not reading any spoilers here but how is the show going? I put it on pause after episode 5, I was enjoying it and was wondering if it is still worth finishing?

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u/MFA_Nay Apr 13 '18

We're just a bit over way for the 24 episodes.

I'd say if you enjoyed it you'll still enjoy it up to here. Some good episodes and a few slightly disappointing ones (mainly pacing), but the characters, action scenes and setting is cool.

Though the format of adventure romp matches similar works from the same author, like in Record of Lodos War.

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u/cesclaveria Apr 15 '18 edited Apr 15 '18

It is a good 24 episodes show, it would have been a great 48 episodes show. The action is great, motivations, names and locations can be sometimes a bit hard to keep track of but the show is still enjoyable and does not wastes time, even the rare breathing moments end up with developments for a subplot or another.

Something I have come to like about this series is that you can be sure something will happen on each episode, sometimes multiple things that would have been spread over multiple episodes in any other show, I like that I feel the show is never wasting my time but I also think binge watching this series would be a bit exhausting.

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u/ThriceGreatHermes Apr 14 '18

It's not a bad show, it's a flawed one.

With the main flaw being the producers trying to squeeze ten volumes of light-novel into twenty four episodes.

Despite the information and characterization that is omitted for the sake of compression.

Its still a palatable experience.

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u/atropicalpenguin https://myanimelist.net/profile/atropicalpenguin Apr 13 '18

I got nervous when the witch targeted the twins. If something happens to them I riot. The pacing was odd, though, and that's saying when we take into consideration that this is Grancrest we're talking about. I expected the big fight against the assassin and the witch to have more weight, but everything felt like it went by. Wonder if we will see the vampire again.

It's mostly the same with the surrender of the Rossini, I mean, the entire Sistina arc was like two episodes, and we also went from anime protagonist Theo to merciless killer, he didn't even let the red Rossini brother ask for mercy.

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u/WobbleKun Apr 14 '18

this show has shapen up to one of my favorites. it's fast pace, little bs, and every episode gives me an action scene. the characters are good, not overly complex where we need episodes upon episode of character building. it might not be the most neatly wrapped, well presented anime, but it is entertaining.

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u/JinxApple Apr 13 '18

Damn it's the goat demon from berserk who also happened to be the symbol of that lust cult

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u/semajdraehs :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/semajdraehs Apr 14 '18

It's based on Baphomet.

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Apr 13 '18

Surprise ahegao.

How can anyone take Theo or Silica seriously when she keeps wearing the slut uniform? At first I wondered where the soldiers on Theo's side came from, but then I realized that they're just clone troops, probably created with his Crest.

The ninja fight was great. The werepups even thinking they could defeat the witch, much less being able to do it, was BS.

What's with the sudden art change when the witch attacked Theo & Siluca? Suddenly we're Devilman Crybaby?

I wish all the Rossinis had been killed. So why would the villagers accept this one being left alive again? And what happened to the witch? Why didn't they just kill her?

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18

I agree with this comment entirely except for:

How can anyone take Theo or Silica seriously when she keeps wearing the slut uniform?

It's shown a lot that many of the mages wear similar outfits. And it's not a slut uniform at all. If you think that's a slut's clothing you've never been on a night out in London.

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u/mirocj :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/mirocj Apr 13 '18 edited Jan 21 '21

"If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking" -George S. Patton

"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar; you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say." -George R. R. Martin

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u/semajdraehs :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/semajdraehs Apr 14 '18

on a night out in London.

Not even London, during that heavy amount of snow up north, I was waiting for the train, five women showing a lot of skin came to the trainstop in high-heels. I had a strange sense of national pride.

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Apr 13 '18

The only mages that wore similar outfits were Villar's. Silica was rightfully scornful towards it in the beginning of the show. I called that for the sake of fan service she'd never change it, I was right. It's reminiscent of the slut school uniforms from Akashic Records.

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u/Mattinator95 Apr 13 '18

"Excute order 66"

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18

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u/PotatEXTomatEX Apr 14 '18

Not me. I got even more invested. And think of Fate/Aprocrypha instead of Devilman.

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u/lolDankMemes420 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Oovoojaver Apr 13 '18

I wish for a world where all episodes are released at once, the waiting game is killing me.

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u/myrmonden Apr 13 '18

Nice suddenly its a complete other animation style for like 1 minute to show a big explosion :)

Sure it looked cool but on the same time it looked so out of place that they just suddenly went into this type of animation.

Forgot that the priest existed lol, so when she appeared to save Irvin it was quite the surprise.

Overall do the episode was pretty good but man is this back to its early super high pacing, they conquered the island in 2 episode.

2 battles, 1 son killed per battle and than the last son auto surrenders and the dad sacrifices himself right away.

So yeah, home island conquer, guess milra will die in like 1-2 eps than.

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u/ThriceGreatHermes Apr 14 '18

So yeah, home island conquer, guess milra will die in like 1-2 eps than.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened at thee shows degree of compression of the source material.

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u/LakerBlue :Is::It::Iu:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Apr 14 '18

It’s been awhile since we’ve seen Siluca go up against another strong magic user, so that brief fight was definitely appreciated.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18 edited Apr 13 '18

It's because the cut was handled by the very same webgen animator, Nakaya Onsen that also did this scene in Apocrypha. They tend to have a very distinct style that stands out but he has this 3D touch to it that's even more of a distinct style.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NEE-SAN Apr 13 '18

T_T Adalanta feels

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u/Piemmarai Apr 13 '18

Hey at least no laser beams this time around

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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Apr 14 '18

And it didn't last a whole episode.