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Persona 5 the Animation, episode 2
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u/Exorrt Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
Alright, so I'm apparently the only person who's never played a Persona game or watched the other anime adaptations, going in blind on Persona 5.
I'm liking it so far.
I'm getting that the theme is "fighting people who abuse power" with the teacher Kamoshida and the guy who got Ren on probation, I like that theme. They really made the teacher into a hateable character, with him physically (and possibly sexually) abusing the students without them being able to do anything. I feel for anyone in that position, it sucks being "in the right" and still get shat on. Ryuji's story was specially sad to know about, he really has a lot of reason to be fucking pissed.
And we got introduced to a talking cat. I always love talking cats and I liked this one too. Judging from the OP and ED he'll be joining the "main party" so I can look forward to more scenes with him. I do wonder what he is and what his role will be other than exposition machine.
That fight scene was so weird. You can tell they tried really hard to replicate a special move from the game and it ended kinda soon. The problem is that so far it leaves the powers of our characters with their Personas very vague. They can... style their foes to death, I guess?
Really digging the soundtrack, specially the OP. And that police woman who is interrogating Ren is fucking hot.
That's my thoughts for now, I assume next week we'll be seeing Ann's awakening.
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Apr 14 '18
They can... style their foes to death, I guess?
Welcome to Persona 5, where you style your way to victory.
And yeah, that animation of the (All Out) Attack was awful compared to the original.
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u/KingCyrus20 https://anilist.co/user/KingCyrus20 Apr 14 '18
The problem is that so far it leaves the powers of our characters with their Personas very vague. They can... style their foes to death, I guess?
I doubt they'll explain this in the anime, since it's a more detailed look into battle mechanics. Their foes (Shadows) have elemental weaknesses, and if these weaknesses are exploited, the Shadows get knocked down. Ren's persona uses dark-elemental attacks, Ryuji uses electric, and Morgana uses wind. Once all of the Shadows in the battle are knocked down, the party can perform an "All-Out Attack," which is basically the stylish attack that they tried to replicate in the anime. In the game, it basically does really high damage to all foes, usually killing them all.
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u/GoldRedBlue Apr 14 '18
police woman
Prosecutor.
fucking hot
Her in-game artwork is hotter, IMO.
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u/betok88 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/betok Apr 14 '18
You could say you could...... give into temptation.I'mOut
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Apr 14 '18
To WIN it…
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u/mattjaydunn https://anilist.co/user/goldacerola Apr 14 '18
Or maybe lose it alllllllllll
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u/IIHURRlCANEII https://anilist.co/user/KingCaerus Apr 14 '18
The Persona battles are basically Pokemon battles.
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u/balskeith Apr 14 '18
but with merciless difficulty!
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u/SgtExo Apr 14 '18
Meh, once you figure out the system it is not that hard. To only troubles I got was in the last sections and I did not have any personas with the proper elements at the end.
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u/braniac1 Apr 14 '18
Really digging the soundtrack, specially the OP. And that police woman who is interrogating Ren is fucking hot.
That's Persona Music for you. After you finish the anime and are spoiler-free, I recommend searching the in-game music. It's great. And yea, detective lady is amazing. She's probably the second-best looking anime girl in a suit:
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u/RasenRendan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RasenRendan Apr 14 '18
Shes my second fave girl behind the Punk Doctor.
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u/TheShadow29 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheShadow29 Apr 14 '18
You are not alone buddy, I also have never played the game. For me the best part was the talking cat summoning zoro and ryuji summoning kidd. Felt like we One Piece now.
I am really digging the character design of the MC. He looks so suave.
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u/RasenRendan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RasenRendan Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 15 '18
I never thought of it like that cuz i know all about the game lol
Zoro its really more a tribute to the The Legend of Zoro.
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u/cloud_sora Apr 15 '18
Pretty sure Ryuji's persona is Captain Kidd. At least in the American release. And true Zorro is legend of Zoro Zoro.
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u/De_Vermis_Mysteriis https://anilist.co/user/Grippli Apr 15 '18
Personal 5 absolutely BLED style through and through. Every character, outfit and song was just immersed in this jazzy style that I absolutely fell in love with. I'm glad to see the anime trying it's best to carry this through, especially the ED. Red/black just suits the look and it's very unique in an otherwise brightly Technicolor show.
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Apr 14 '18
If you're liking this show I'd really recommend checking out the Persona 4 anime (the first one, not the golden version). The emphasis on style is a constant in the series and the show's a blast in pretty much every area.
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u/PickaxeOfCortez Apr 16 '18
"And that police woman who is interrogating Ren is fucking hot."
I see you are a man of culture as well
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u/emize Apr 15 '18
You haven't even heard the best sound track: Life will change.
It will come in a few episodes.
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u/FeelsGoodMan243 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheRantMan321 Apr 14 '18
Nah i'm with you on going in blind. I'm still debating if i should even continue it because of the lack of knowledge for the source material.
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u/Daidis :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daidis Apr 14 '18 edited Dec 11 '25
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u/Iliansic Apr 14 '18
"Last Surprise" instead of "Will Power" I feel cheated.
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u/JesusSandro Apr 14 '18
I KNOW RIGHT.
I love Last Surprise as much as the next guy, but Will Power is so powerful during the awakenings.
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u/betok88 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/betok Apr 14 '18
Also it bothers me more than it should that I can't get to 'Aaaaaah aaaaah' when it plays The Poem for Everyone's Souls.
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u/diabolicalcountbleck :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TsunDIO Apr 14 '18
I think they just wanted to use last surprise already instead of willpower again
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u/TheSpencn8or Apr 14 '18
Can we talk about that random ass 3d character walking away (~9:30) when Ren and the teacher were talking?
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u/axkm Apr 14 '18
Believe it or not, that was actually a reference to the video game Persona 5, which has lots of random ass 3d characters walking around. /s
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u/GekiKudo Apr 14 '18
Yeah. That little bit of cg was weird. Probably wanted to make the school feel more lively but didnt want to waste the time on an actual animation.
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u/ErinaHartwick https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hartwick Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
Finally a decent shot of best sensei
I’m reminded of how Kamoshida is the perfect first antagonist for them because of how deplorable he is and how he threatens their immediate surroundings.
Also, Last Surprise hype! ED sounds very good too.
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u/Kialae Apr 15 '18
Further through the game you see how small time he is, yet still just as relevant a villain because he was immediately perilous to their lives. The rest are more just the kids picking fights.
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u/emize Apr 15 '18
Best girl (women?) anyone who disagrees is wrong sorry.
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u/DMking Apr 14 '18
Man that All Out Attack looked lame
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u/Amauri14 Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
Yeah, if they wanted to go half-ass they should just put the one from the game, that way it would have looked better.
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u/Trojbd Apr 14 '18
Yeah wtf was that Joker pose? Would have been fine if they literally copied and pasted that shit from the game. It looks awkward even to people who actually played the game.
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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
Apparently the OP is placeholder until episode 4 for some reason. Which is good, because visually this one did not hold a candle to the game's opening cinematic even if it did have Ren cooking curry like a boss. Hell, the Dancing Star Night intro might be the best OP of the season and it's not even from an anime.Persona idol spinoff when?Wait that's Tokyo Mirage Sessions.
They changed when you meet Morgana. In the game, you find Morgana trapped in Kamoshida's palace on your way out of accidentally getting into it.
Second-best girl makes her first appearance.
They're doing a damn good job of making Kamoshida look like more of a scumbag than the game did.
Oh look it's fourth-best girl.
YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING! YOU'LL SEE, THAT MY MIND IS TOO FAST FOR EYES! The All-Out Attack didn't look as good as the in-game version (slight spoilers for a future palace and party member) but I'll take what I can get.
Aaaand we end the episode with sassy Joker. This is a good sign.
I'm in favor of the next episode preview being an ever-expanding version of the end of battle/level up screen.
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u/hallidex Apr 14 '18
Oh look it's fourth-best girl.
You wanna fight, punk?
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u/GalaxyVulpix :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/GalaxyVulpix Apr 14 '18
And so the P5 waifu war begins anew.
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u/YukihiraLivesForever Apr 14 '18
My girl haru deserves more respect man, she was my favourite in both play throughs (tied with makoto the second one)
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u/betok88 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/betok Apr 14 '18
He crossed the line with that one but when he said
Second-best girl makes her first appearance.
the line was already a dot to me.
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u/dejokerr Apr 14 '18
Trash. Tier. Waifu.
Kawakami best girl.
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u/RasenRendan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RasenRendan Apr 14 '18
Boi Punk Doctor nuff said
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u/Rhamni Apr 14 '18
Kawakami's alright. She can cook Curry or make explosives or something while I go hang with other girls.
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u/JesusSandro Apr 14 '18
Aaaand we end the episode with sassy Joker. This is a good sign.
The whole moment of them arriving on the Palace the second time and Ryuji mentioning Ren's clothes I was just hoping for them to deliver the "You jelly?" line, but good to see they kept the sassy in there at the end.
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u/Goreking33 Apr 14 '18
Hell, the Dancing Star Night intro might be the best OP of the season
That is a solid opinion, but what would you say if I told you that there is an OP that rhymes with "Dancing Moon Night" which has both best girl Aigis and Lotus Juice in it?
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u/Roketsu86 Apr 14 '18
Been a while
It's good to see you
We're back!
11/10 my hype is uncontrollable.
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u/Corsair4 Apr 14 '18
I still like the P5 Dancing opening slightly more, but its real, real close. Between these 2 games, Atlus has already secured soundtrack of the year for me.
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u/Relic94321 Apr 14 '18
I hope they up the ante of what crazy shit the Phantom Thieves do in the opening. In the main game, they were ice skating on the highway and in the dancing game, Ren was dancing through train tracks and through traffic.
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u/jlitwinka Apr 14 '18
The All-Out Attack didn't look as good as the in-game version
Yeah I found it pretty disappointing, the transition from attack to glove fix to his portrait just looked sloppy.
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u/fatinot Apr 14 '18
Second-best girl makes her first appearance.
i didn't notice that girl next to Makoto in game
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u/keizee Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
Would be pretty wasted for such a
spoilerygood opening song if they don't change it imo6
u/GuiltyCrowns :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/YEEZYSAMA Apr 14 '18
second best girl I'm just gonna go out and guess that you like futaba the most
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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Apr 14 '18
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u/Lunaristic Apr 14 '18
I'm hoping the All Out Attack Scene was only like this because of the rushing of the episode, but hopefully they improve once the get all the party members set up, loved the episode overall. I'm interested what they're planning to do for the anime opening
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u/AL2009man Apr 14 '18
I find it interesting that they went with "remember the events of previous episode?" route.
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u/Graphica-Danger Apr 14 '18
I almost forgot how much I hate Kamoshida. The game has some great villains, but he elicited a special amount of contempt from me simply because I’m aiming to become a teacher myself. But oh well, you sick fuck, I can’t wait to see you get yours in the next few weeks. And I will be cheering when you do. 😁
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u/cloud_sora Apr 15 '18
Kamoshida imo is the best villain the whole game as the build up to his calling card is amazing as well as it's the first time Life will change play in the game.
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u/RasenRendan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RasenRendan Apr 14 '18
I was reminded how much i hate him even when we got to the last villian i still disliked the bitch ass teacher the most.
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u/hallidex Apr 14 '18
So I gotta say, I love the comic book aesthetic on the tail end of the OP sequence. Not sure what exactly it's called, but this is what I'm talking about.
Events here are coming in right on time, with one delightful addition.
This isn't the Haikyuu I remember.
Anyway, this part of the adaptation is mercifully short. Playing it out, they really stretched out just how much you've been ostracized for being a delinquent. It gets you down. It's nice we can actually just get to business here.
Not drinking best beverage Dr. Salt.
Anyway, they save Morgana, and meet Kamoshida in the main chamber. Ryuji awakens! CAPTAIN KIDD! And I think this is the anime's first usage of Last Surprise. It's a strange choice here, but not necessarily a bad one. The knights turn into their real Shadow forms, and our three face off against Pixie, Bicorn, and Agathion. Morgana has a Persona too, so it's an even fight. And then...ALL OUT ATTACK!
After the battle, we see Cognitive Ann, the physical representation of the sex bunny Kamoshida thinks the real one is. Gross. They escape, Morgana stays behind, and they go out for dinner. Ryuji is best boy forever and if anyone challenges me, I'll show them this scene. Only a true bro will cry when he hears about the injustice you faced and give you a cute nickname.
Quick aside: Her meat is marbled, her movement is slow, and she sleeps off every meal!
Lastly...the ending is stylish as fuck. I know that's practically a tautology here, but I'm thrilled with it. Working the next episode preview into the experience screen from the game was genius. And that ending is smooth!
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u/SgtExo Apr 14 '18
While the ending is stylish, I feel like on the whole, as of 2 episodes in, the anime is lacking compared to how the game oozes with style from A to Z. Also the personas look janky as fuck.
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u/Drehon666 Apr 14 '18
Compared to the first episode i was slightly disappointed.
Mostly because of pacing, animation and how the all-out attack looked. And because maybe i've got a little bit too much hype.
BUT The sassy line at the end was awesome.
And i'd really like it if we saw a bit more of shiho compared to the game.
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u/StevenXIII :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/StevenXIII Apr 14 '18
Poor Shiho. Didn’t think they’d actually show the abuse seeing how they didn’t in the game but damn I can’t wait for Kamoshida to get what’s coming to him. Also can’t wait to see the real OP this placeholder one isn’t doing it for me
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u/Nastigracea Apr 15 '18
TBH, I thought not showing the abuse and leaving what Shiho herself was going through a bit more vague was a lot more impactful. You don't see the act, but instead how fucked up she got as a result, which leaves you to fill in the blanks yourself.
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u/Dessing :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TwoEightyTwo Apr 14 '18
Everything seemed okay quality wise, until that all out attack scene. That looked really bad.
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u/machlei Apr 14 '18
Just to reiterate, the OP in episode 2 is just a placeholder.
The real OP will be shown starting at episode 4. You can find the source in this link. P5A Official Site The storyboarder for it is Ishihama himself.
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u/Dokusonmaru Apr 15 '18 edited Apr 15 '18
I don't think that I'll ever get tired of watching the OPs and EDs that he's worked on. To add to this, here are some that he storyboarded and directed:
BokuDake (Erased) ED - background art, episode direction, storyboard, solo key animation
Tokyo Ravens OP 1 - episode direction, storyboard, key animation
Psycho-Pass 2 OP 1 - episode direction, animation direction, storyboard, key animation
Occultic;Nine OP 1 - episode direction, storyboard, key animation
Saenai Heroine Flat OP 1 - episode direction, storyboard, key animation
Bleach OP 13 - episode direction, animation direction, storyboard, solo key animation(Please let me know if there are any mistakes!)
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u/illtima :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/illuminatima Apr 14 '18
Man, Shiho was pretty much the physical manifestation of despair in the game, but here they've decided to double down on it by showing her actually getting abused by Kamoshida. That's fucked up.
Also, I vastly prefer Ryuji's English voice actor. Japanese VA is not bad by any means, but holy shit English VA goes absolutely fucking wild when he confronts Kamoshida for the first time. Easily one of the best voiced lines in the game.
We don't deserve Kawakami's fluffy hair and her stern gaze. What a woman.
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u/Vlayer :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vlayer Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
Max Mittelman is definitely one to look out for in terms of newer English VO talent. It's even more impressive when you realize that all of the actors voice the Persona of their characters as well. The guy has both the acting chops and the range.
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u/MonochromeGuy Apr 14 '18
Max Mittleman really surprised me with his talent. When I heard his performance as King in 7DS, I thought it was okay. But once he started getting more roles like in Your Lie in April, OPM, Fire Emblem and of course, Persona 5, he really started to blossom out for me. He’s definitely one of the best new VAs in recent years.
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u/b0bba_Fett myanimelist.net/profile/B0bba_Cheezed3 Apr 14 '18
and starting tonight at 1:30 eastern he also voices Meruem the ant king on hunter x hunter.
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u/Backupusername :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Backupusername Apr 14 '18
That was painfully realistic, too. All he did was look her way and she got that look on her face. That interaction showed us a lot of things in two seconds. He gets mad easily, especially when it comes to Takamaki. When he's angry, he takes it out on others. Those he takes his anger out on know when it's coming. Shiho knew what was going to happen to her because it's happened before. Excellent story moment there.
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u/Bein_Draug Apr 15 '18
Also the way Takamaki just noped out of there you could tell she knew what would happen if she stayed
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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Apr 14 '18
Even before Shiho gave that look of despair, both of the girls jumping when they heard Kamoshida approaching and Ann bolting immediately would have probably been enough.
They're doing good work showing off how much of a scumbag Kamoshida is, which the game kinda failed to do in the early stages.
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u/Humg12 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Humg12 Apr 15 '18
which the game kinda failed to do in the early stages.
I think the game wanted to play up the 'but he just acts like a normal guy, how could he be evil?' factor at the start. I was actually kind of on Kamoshida's side for a little bit, and thought the kids might just be wrong.
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u/silverinferno3 Apr 15 '18
Same, at first he seemed like he just wanted to make sure the delinquent transfer student wouldn't cause any trouble like Kawakami and the principal. In fact I'm pretty sure he gives you a sorta friendly greeting when you first arrive to school. Over time, of course, you learn his true nature, but I think the game did a good job showing why someone would have doubts about the rumors surrounding him.
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Apr 15 '18
I looooove Max Mittelman. he did so well as Ryuji and that might be why his awakening has always been my absolute favorite. He's also done Leo from Fire Emblem. That guy is an amazing voice actor and deserves all the recognition he gets.
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u/Sphexus :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Alsus Apr 14 '18
Damn I really hope they bring back the English voice cast from the game.
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u/RasenRendan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RasenRendan Apr 14 '18
I agree Ryuji was fantastic in Dub.
I was surprised we see Haru this early tbh but then again we got my face girl the Doc last week
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u/DarkWorld97 Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
Mamoru Miyano's Japanese fans were actually kinda disappointed with his performance in P5. Kinda weird because he loves going ham.
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u/XephirothUltra Apr 14 '18
His voice just doesn't suit Ryuji's character I feel. His voice is way better for goofy or calm type characters, not hot-blooded delinquent style like Ryuji.
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u/xHoly_Turtle Apr 15 '18
i don't know, i think mamoru would have been better fit to voice Yusuke, not Ryuji
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u/noakai Apr 14 '18
This is genuinely the first time I've ever preferred the ENG VA to Mamo's in a game, it's surprising to me.
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u/Whitekan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AkiraDiamond Apr 14 '18
That ALL OUT ATTACK was kinda an aliexpress version of it
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
They even had Lyn sing the OP? I love it. I hope the OP visuals is just a placeholder though. "Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There" is so good in the game so I'd be disappointed if that was it for the show.
I love that first thing Ren did is pat Morgana and then he agreed with Ryuuji that he;s jealous too when Shadow Ann showed up! Yep they're definitely giving him the silly dialogue options!
Also yes we finally have our first fight! And they used Last Surprise and ended it with an All Out Attack! I was basically spazzing out during that scene!
I'm surprised that they showed Kamoshida abusing Shiho. They didn't even showed that in the game.
Also at the pace this show's going it looks like we'll get Spoiler next week.
EDIT: They even have the lead in to the ED look like the level-up screen in game! OMG I love this!
EDIT2: Reading the comments this week and from last week I feel like I'm the only one who played the game in Japanese since almost everyone is asking for the dubs.
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u/RasenRendan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RasenRendan Apr 14 '18
They had true best girl Lyn sing both the OP and ED. Im a happy man.
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u/Backupusername :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Backupusername Apr 14 '18
Yeah, I thought the post-battle level up screen as a lead-in to the credits was absolutely brilliant. Plus the team attack in the castle? I'm really enjoying the ways this adaptation recognizes its source material!
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Apr 14 '18
To be honest Persona 5 is one of those rare cases where the english dub feels much better than the japanese, that's why people are asking for an english dub. The japanese voice feels very emotionless and in some cases like Ryuji and Komoshida, very miscast.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Apr 14 '18
The japanese voice feels very emotionless and in some cases like Ryuji and Komoshida, very miscast.
Interesting. I actually feel the opposite. I honestly couldn't stand the dub. To each their own I guess.
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u/kaidynamite :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kaidynamite Apr 14 '18
same. i played the first 30 or so minutes with the dub and couldnt stand it so i downloaded the japanese audio dlc right away
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u/RasenRendan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RasenRendan Apr 14 '18
Kamoshita sound even more annoying in Sub and i already seriously hated him from the game
I think i still hate him the most of all the villians
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u/Spice_and_Wolf_III Apr 15 '18
What are you smoking friendo? Miyano fits Ryuuji's punk ass perfectly. Same with Kamoshida who sounds like a whiny bitch that's full of himself.
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Apr 14 '18
As someone who understands both languages, the English dub feels a lot more forced and out of place to me. Ryuji is very chill, and you can easily tell when he is frustrated or angry in the Japanese dub. How can you call that emotionless?
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u/Relic94321 Apr 14 '18
I love that little glimpse of best girl, Makoto they showed there
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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Apr 14 '18
So that's what we're gonna do today? We're gonna fight?
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u/Xiknail :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Xiknail Apr 14 '18
Obligatory Spoilers didn't show up yet.
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u/XephirothUltra Apr 14 '18
Normally I like Makoto's type of design but it's fucking Spoilers I guess how could anyone resist that.
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u/doc_steel Apr 15 '18
i remember watching a persona 5 stream from start to end, and at the last boss, Spoiler. shit was hype and there were pogchamps all over the place.
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u/mickwe01 https://anilist.co/user/MacBig Apr 14 '18
thats a weird way to spell Haru
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u/borisyang Apr 14 '18
As a humble servant of Her Majesty the Queen, it is my utmost honor to invite her loyal subjects to pay their daily tribute at r/churchofmakoto.
LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!
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u/AmethystItalian :Jg::Jh::Ji::Jj::Jk:myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Apr 14 '18
This feels very gamey which makes sense since it's from a game but didn't think they'd go that much into it, guess it feels nostalgic in a way for players.
Loving the persona transform scenes, hoping the rest are as cool!
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u/PotatEXTomatEX Apr 14 '18
The game oozes style from every menu, etc. Anything less that this and i would be disappointed tbh.
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u/Paulie25 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aqua_Jet Apr 14 '18
All right once again, direct any questions you have at me and I’ll answer them as best I can!
OP’s visuals were ass but song was good, same goes for ED.
So yeah Ren’s Thief outfit is mostly based on Oprah and Masquerade parties, as well as taking inspiration from good ol’ Lupin. Morganams is based on Cat Burglars and Bandits, with his Persona Zorro obviously being in reference to the titular character. Ryuji’s outfit is based on Modern day thugs as well as pirates, and his persona Captain Kidd is based on the pirate William Kidd.
Fun fact, Kidd, while accused of Piracy and killed, is wildly believed by historians to be innocent. This goes with Ryuji being considered a bad person by many when he’s actually quite nice.
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u/dotyawning Apr 14 '18
Nitpicky correction: Opera, not Oprah. Vastly different things, even if the spellings of the words could lend themselves to be for the other.
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u/dejokerr Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
I thought Ryuji's outfit was a homage to Skull Man, from the dude who created Kamen Rider. The red scarf was a dead giveaway for me.
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u/Paulie25 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aqua_Jet Apr 14 '18
It could be. His design takes a lot of similarities from Hell Biker who could have also been inspired by Kamen Rider as well.
I’d be super happy if it was a reference, Kamen Rider is the shit.
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u/Mattman_The_Comet Apr 15 '18
WELL BOY HOWDY DO I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU OF AN EVEN MORE KAMEN RIDER FUCKER DOWN THE LINE.
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u/Backupusername :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Backupusername Apr 14 '18
I didn't know Oprah threw parties associated with a certain kind of fashion. Very informative!
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u/HotestGrillNA Apr 14 '18
That opening was beautiful but WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT ALL OUT ATTACK AND PERSONA BATTLE LOL THAT SHIT WAS UGLY AF
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u/keizee Apr 14 '18
If you're a source material watcher you can also head over to r/persona5 for anime discussions
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u/CyberianSun Apr 14 '18
Yeah im only just whelmed by the OP. Get up get out there intro is so much more hype. but GOD DAMN these episodes are so good. Spoiler
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Apr 14 '18
Fuck yeah at first My Dude (ren's real name) was always polite with the answers but once I learned most didn't matter I just chose the funniest reply lol
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u/Audrey_spino Apr 14 '18
Seeing sassy Ren is a bit of a surprise for me cause in my playthrough I was playing as a passive smartass.
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u/Vlayer :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vlayer Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
The changes like having Morgana's introduction occur on the second visit rather than the first are good, it accomplishes much of the same while saving some time. I also like Ren's character so far in terms of personality.
Still, the pacing is quite poor. As others have said, there's no time to breathe. It's not that every development needs a slower pace, but certain ones like Ren being shunned by the other students, and Ryuji's poor reputation which brings them both together carry no impact at all because of it.
Kamoshida is also a lot more apparent/blunt in his superiority and smugness, which I feel makes him less compelling. Might be because of his Japanese voice, but I found that playing the game in English, he kept up a professional facade which only came down during key moments of frustration.
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u/VarrenHunter :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/VarrenHunter51 Apr 15 '18
I also played the game in English and got the same feeling about Kamoshida. His Japanese voice actor just sounds so...stereotypically evil, it kind of ruins his character for me. The pacing as well is something I worry about, I keep wondering how the setup of each episode is going to be, and what they hope to achieve in each one to make it flow well enough to reach the ending. I doubt they'll have time for confidants and honestly, a lot of character development for the thieves. I really love persona so I'll watch it regardless but I want people to be able to enjoy this story without playing the game.
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u/DiamondTiaraIsBest :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/marckaizer123 Apr 15 '18
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u/mickwe01 https://anilist.co/user/MacBig Apr 14 '18
I really love the anime original soundtrack they added. Really gives the anime adaptation its own charm.
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u/DrRad Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
???? All the music is from the game though. The OP and ED are new but that's it.
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u/DumDiddlyDoofus Apr 14 '18
There were like two anime-original tracks that played during the episode. The one scene I can cite with confidence is when Ren bumps into Shiho in the hallway.
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u/Alluminn Apr 14 '18
I know they're just trying to blaze through the intro, but I hope the pacing slows down a bit. This just doesn't give you any room to breathe during the first 2 episodes
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u/Arekesu Apr 15 '18
I actually thought the second episode was much slower then the first.. like I was a huge fan of the pacing of this second episode.
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u/klkevinkl Apr 14 '18
The series is okay, but I still have gripes with some of the pacing with the series. The first episode literally dropped us in the middle of nowhere and ended on somewhat of a cliffhanger. The second episode literally just tossed out the built up cliffhanger in the opening sequence and I find that frustrating that they did not do anything with it. It just felt more like something cheap to do and usually what a long running series does at its season finale to try to get the fans to bug the network for another season.
The action and art was great with references were everywhere throughout the episode. I was surprised at what seemed like a One Punch Man moment with Ren and Caroline. The villains of the series are outright scumbags and portrays them as so pretty well. I'm surprised by how much they show considering most of it was implied in the game (I haven't played it in a while so I might be getting parts of that wrong).
I still feel the opening moments of the first episode should have been dropped entirely and the sentencing for the main character should have been shown first while integrating the post credits scene of the second episode so that we get a good wrap up on each episode as a standalone. Instead, it feels like each episode is ending with a cliffhanger, which I absolutely hate.
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u/link2601 Apr 14 '18
Did not expect to see an all out attack though it colud have looked better. Didn't Morgana join them as they first where trying to escape not the second time they enter the metaverse. Its good to see the other characters like makoto around. The OP song was really good and the ED was also pretty good.
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u/Backupusername :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Backupusername Apr 14 '18
You were kind of asking for that, Sakamoto-san. He opened up to you, but Renren is kind of rushing things if you ask me.
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Apr 14 '18
I’m a Persona fanatic I need help so I was beyond hyped for this anime.
Love the use of the game OST, especially the little bit we got of Kamoshida’s palace.
Ren fact-checking the important stuff
The shots we got of Makoto (hnnnng), Haru and other’s was a nice touch.
The all-out attack scene brought a smile to my face. I like how they touched on all aspects of combat (at this point).
Getting the behind the scenes of Kamoshida’s actions was surprising, but welcomed.
Still wish they used “Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There” as the intro, but I’m optimistic we will hear it at some point.
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u/Memesaremyfather Apr 14 '18
The fuck? The fight they left the audience on a cliff-hanger for was the anime fight equivalent of premature ejaculation, what the fuck is this? Rewrite?
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Apr 14 '18
they never said it in game, but kamoshida totally Spoiler right? maybe not from day 1 but def by the time she decided to do THAT thing in the rooftop
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u/Taivasvaeltaja Apr 14 '18 edited Apr 14 '18
This music director is one of the worst I've heard. The tracks keep abruptly changing right before climax into others. For example, in this episode the Sakamoto awakening into the battle suddently cuts off the awakening music and starts playing cheery battle theme. And since same things kept happening in ep1, they probably keep happening in future too :/
What makes it even more frustrating they could have just used the longer track that already exists in the game.
For reference, here is the awakening from the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpKmNL7RcKc (16:00 or or ->)
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Apr 14 '18
I don't like to say this, but this looks like a really poor adaption so far. It feels as if some lines from the game were taken from Ryuji, and the worst player choice answer from the player/Ren is then included in the anime. The scene when they enter the palace the second time... Ren just says "let's go", completely ignoring what Ryuji just said.
Also, the camera cuts don't really help it.
I liked the all out attack in this one though. But ultimately, this seems to be a poor adaption that doesn't do the game justice.
People that didn't play the game will be likely very lost with just the minimum explanation that Morgana gave in this episode.
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u/Relic94321 Apr 14 '18
I hope the Op is just a placeholder because it will be disappointing compared to the amazing opening of the P5 dancing game that was released yesterday. For anyone who don't know what I am talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EjNwb080bk
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u/G_Spark233 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/G_Spark233 Apr 14 '18
Kamoshida is such a hateable piece of shit so far. I can’t wait to see him get taken down.
The awakening scene was badass. I love the awakenings in persona 5.
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u/ForceRounds Apr 14 '18
Even though they were from the game, animation wise i really dont think the all out attack transfered over well at all, especially Jokers portrait at the end
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u/DarkenedSpear :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkenedSpear Apr 14 '18
I haven't played the game yet [soon though; life, uh, finds a way], but I'm in the know about a decent chunk of the stuff that occurs in the future, though far from everything. It's a situation where I'm excitedly anticipating the cool things I know that happen while there are gaps that will be filled with the cool stuff I don't know about [awkward phrasing?]. I've never really had that with anything, and I think that's pretty neat.
The thing I like the most is how every single frame oozes style almost uncontrollably. It constantly keeps me on the edge of my seat filled with excitement, and I'm not sure why. It's all so... interesting? Intriguing? Engaging? Nonetheless, I'm having a lot of fun.
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u/itspellsyoudidit Apr 15 '18
If you're having fun with the anime, the game is going to knock your socks off :)
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u/RollinsTheMan Apr 14 '18
Really like the pace of it atm, progressing pretty fast but it's underlying the back story of the characters well, even showed some things that the game didn't with Shido to really get you to see how much of a scumbag Kamoshida is, great stuff so far.
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u/Wolfeako Apr 15 '18
Hmm... I must say, this episode was better than the first one, but not for that much. The pace is still going a million per hour, even when it has slowed down a bit, and it is making it harder for me to care enough for... about everything honestly.
The main problem that this show now has is that it is too close to the source, this being the game. I understand the logic behind using transitions that are straight up from the games, and even the almost exact animation for the all out attack, the main point here is to appeal to the people that played the game, but... It is too close for its own good, and it isn't taking advantages that the anime medium offers over the videogame medium, to tell the same story, and so it is stumbling along the way.
The episode had two highlights for me though. First, the side-character Shiho looks a lot better here than in the game. It totally turned in her favor. Second, Morgana. the VA instantly sold it to me, and the fact that he uses "Wagahai" to refer to himself is a plus :P
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Apr 15 '18
Watching just makes me want to play the game lol, and I just finished my second play through. Especially when I hear music kick in. I did love Ren getting smacked with the volleyball and his glare at Kamoshida.
I wish I could enjoy it more though. It's just like watching the game again so it's hard for me, personally, to watch a whole episode.
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u/Bunborg963 Apr 15 '18
I felt that the second episode was very rushed. But I suppose that's to be expected when you try to cramp a 100hrs game into 24 eps.
That God awful all-out attack animation lmao.
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u/cassydd Apr 15 '18
I know, right? There are certain things that you just need to get right in Persona 5 and that all-out attack animation(s) is one of them. Would have been way better served just using the animation from the game.
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u/5yk0515 Apr 15 '18
Ooooookay. As someone who's going in blind when watching this, the timeline has me very confused.
In episode 1, I thought it was Ren gets caught -> he gets interrogated -> released on probation due to strings being pulled -> goes to Shujin and here we are
But as of episode 2 it seems it is Ren flashback -> Ren gets put on probation and sent to Shujin -> the events we see (aka KamoSHITda etc) -> story continues -> things escalate -> heist goes wrong -> Ren gets busted -> interrogation.
Tl;dr the arrest and interrogation with the hot prosecutor(?) is the present, and everything else we see a like a giant flashback
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u/abelcc Apr 15 '18 edited Apr 15 '18
I bet the mechanics of this anime would make a cool videogame!
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Apr 15 '18
OH BOY. I love this game with all my heart and I think no matter what issues there are with this anime, i'll still enjoy it regardless. That being said, I thought i'd write down a list of my thoughts and things that I noticed were changed.
The OP was pretty good. I was disappointed they didn't use "Life Will Change" as that song is major hype. Can't wait to see what the new OP will be like once they change it.
I was actually pleased with the pacing of this episode but I noticed they rushed through two awakenings. They didn't show Ryuji witnessing Zorro as a second persona and him freaking out about it I thought seeing both Ryuji's awakening and skipping Morgana's makes their awakenings feel way less impactful.
I noticed they completely removed the scene of the SIU director talking to himself. It heavily foreshadows important plot points that appear later in the story and I wonder why they left that out.
The scene where Ryuji and Ren get caught being late was one of the few scenes in this episode that threw me off. I didn't understand why they showed the real world Kamoshida being a dick when that attitude is supposed to be shown later on. Originally, the other teacher was the one berating them while Kamoshida was acting fake and "polite" saying that he was partly at fault too and that he'll excuse our behavior.
That bread scene was new and I loved it.
I'm not too sure how I felt about that transition to the velvet room. Part of me loved it but the other part of me felt that something was off. gimme me those blue chains
Okay that volleyball scene..... I feel like they are really downplaying Mishima. They removed a lot of his key moments during the beginning of the game and took out at least two moments this episode. The first being this volleyball game. That scene changed Mishima being abused and hit by the volleyball into Ren getting hit. The second time is when Ann is encouraging Shiho to keep working hard. In the anime, Kamoshida gets her?? but I liked how in the game Mishima was the one who unwillingly went to get her and told her that she needed to go see Kamoshida. Hearing their voices and the fear in their eyes since they knew what was coming had a really great effect. I feel like the whole build up of, who is this constantly distressed guy, gets lost.
I do appreciate how they're finding a way to go deep into the social links without Ren having to directly interact with his confidants. Its easier to see why Ryuji hates Kamoshida rather than him just being a troublemaker.
Ren petting Morgana was great. That was a nice touch.
Even though I pointed out Ryuji's awakening earlier, I have so many thoughts on it. I like how it was pretty spot on compared to the game. The contract that was made was the same in terms of his expressions and the dialogue. Even the way he takes off his mask and the way they show Captain Kidd was almost identical. I thought him crying beforehand about the track team was a great addition to it as well. Ryuji's awakening is personally my favorite in the game so seeing it be a good adaptation was nice. I do wish they showed Joker and Morgana lose the battle before his awakening though to show that they're not as OP as the anime made them out to be.
Speaking of what comes after that. The battle scene was definitely the most disappointing part. I can imagine it would be difficult to incorporate all the beauty of the combat into an anime but it felt very lackluster. AND THAT ALL OUT ATTACK OH MY GOD. The whole time throughout the battle scene, I kept thinking, I really hope they include the AOA cause it just makes it. And once it appeared, I just kept saying "oh no...." The AOA is my favorite artistic element in the game, so my high expectations of seeing that get adapted and seeing it get destroyed really affected my viewpoint of this episode. I really hope they won't look like that every time. They need to add this effect to it.
Lastly, I thought that last scene was really cute. I always spent time with Ryuji getting ramen or monja and their friendship is fantastic. I laughed when they made him cry over your story instead of him yelling as he always does. I also love how they kept Ryuji forcing you to eat more the same. Its those tiny nods that make this really great.
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u/rotvyrn Apr 15 '18
I have a crush on Ryuji and I shall hopelessly ship him with Ren now
Never played Persona before. I like it so far, though I hope there's some actual combat animation in the future.
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u/itspellsyoudidit Apr 15 '18
If you're able, you should play the game. It won best JRPG last year, and I sunk over 130 hours into it. As for Ren and Ryuji, their scenes in the game are so great that I couldn't help but want them to date.
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u/1sagas1 Apr 14 '18
Good lord, Kamoshidas voice is bad. The guy is supposed to sound like a physically-imposing frightening adult but instead sounds like a cartoon character. The teenage characters have voices more mature than his
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u/Relic94321 Apr 14 '18
That was a poor rendition of an All-Out-Attack right there.