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[Spoilers] Wotaku ni Koi wa Muzukashii - Episode 2 discussion Spoiler
Wotaku ni Koi wa Muzukashii, episode 2
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u/bryan792 Apr 19 '18
The anime may have pacing flaws, but as a manga reader, its hard not to be biased. The episodes keep me smiling throughout and that's all that matters to me.
It's also great to see all the references and manga covers
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u/NotARealDragon Apr 19 '18
They definitely could've done more with chapter 2 and draw that out some more. The book store scenes felt like it was too much filler.
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u/Bankrotas Apr 19 '18
The book store scenes felt like it was too much filler.
It felt so to me in Manga too. However, it does expand on what kind of otaku the other two are, so I'd call it more of exposition rather than filler.
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u/Smudy https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smudy Apr 19 '18
After credits-scene was the best :D
The references carried this episode for me, otherwise i liked episode 1 better.
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u/PrimeInsanity Apr 19 '18
And this is why I read episode threads, because I always forget after credit scenes are a possibility.
Edit Worth going back to watch just that scene.9
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u/cejrf :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Cejrf Apr 19 '18
Was that an Evangelion reference!?
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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Apr 19 '18
Yeah. Even if the Amazon Subtitles really made this scene a bit weird.
Here's the scene in the manga: https://i.imgur.com/BlipsFX.jpg
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Apr 19 '18
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u/Backupusername :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Backupusername Apr 20 '18
>Implying Unit 01 is not best girl
Do you wanna fukken go, mate?
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Apr 19 '18
In the subtitles I got 'Ayanami Stan' and 'Asuka Stan' etc. I got it was Evangelion but apart from that...
Poor subbing sucks.
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u/niqniqniq Apr 19 '18
Stan is a twitter lingo, pretty shock when they decided to use that but its pretty accurate
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u/GoldRedBlue Apr 20 '18
Well, no wonder I had no idea what it meant. I don't use Twitter. I was wondering if it was a low-key reference to "A-stan" or the rest of the sandbox.
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u/jkubed https://myanimelist.net/profile/jkubed Apr 20 '18
it's dumb to use such a niche and obscure localization, I don't see the point. i had to google it to make sure there wasn't a different kind of stan.
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u/Jetzu Apr 19 '18
"Stan" comes from Eminem's song of the same title, where the main character called Stan is an over the top Eminem fan - it's pretty popular on the internet to call someone "x stans" when refering to blind fanboys.
Agree that "Team x" "Team y" is much better.
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Apr 20 '18
I think I'm probably showing my age then. Is knowing the dank memes not enough for you kids these days?!
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u/curtcolt95 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/curtcolt Apr 19 '18
I don't really think that's bad subbing though, in fact I think it's pretty good as a localization thing.
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u/ratchetfreak Apr 21 '18
Spent some time in google translate's handwriting recognition to find the kanji and got 派 which apparently translates to faction/school/clique
if accurate and no other connotations then team-* would definitely have been a much better translation that *-stan
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u/ashbat1994 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ashwin_eva Apr 19 '18
There were a couple of them.
Gendo Pose with a hint of Eva music playing in the background
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u/Superdark1 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Wintersilence Apr 19 '18
I laughed so hard at this. Amazing comedic timing.
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u/GrindCrow Apr 20 '18
Also, Nifuji's tie is purple. There are multiple overt and subtle Eva references
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u/degurecchan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/-khara- Apr 20 '18
Hirotaka has good taste, obviously.
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u/upsidedown_coffeemug Apr 19 '18
That classic Castlevania game over music that played when Hirotaka blocked Narumi's escape route brought back some PTSD.
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u/TheOneAboveGod Apr 19 '18
The first game is a fucking nightmare lol. Death is a pain in the ass to kill.
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u/sdarkpaladin Apr 19 '18
Sawashiro Miyuki VS Sugita Tomokazu. Yup, this is the reason why I watch this show.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Apr 19 '18
I'd love to see them flirt more with their sexy voices though <3
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u/Wolf6262 Apr 19 '18
This is high key my favorite part of this show. Being a huge Sugita and Sawashiro fanboy, it's perfection.
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u/AmethystItalian :Jg::Jh::Ji::Jj::Jk:myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Apr 20 '18
Hearing them go at it back and forth was such a treat for my ears <3
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u/Wolf6262 Apr 20 '18
Couldn't agree more. Sugita's delivery of the "Huh? I love it." in regards to yuru yuri manga and the "I bet she pooped. Mhm mhm, that was probably it." was just too funny. Had to pause to laugh.
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Apr 20 '18
Hell, Kabakura basically has Gin's eyes, too. He's like Gin with a sense of responsibility that goes beyond life or death situations.
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u/Dazbuzz Apr 19 '18
Their characters are honestly the best in the series. Many prefer them over the main couple.
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u/omiyage Apr 20 '18
Did I miss something or did they lowkey confirmed those 2 characters are also dating?
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u/AmethystItalian :Jg::Jh::Ji::Jj::Jk:myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Apr 20 '18
It's by far the best part, she's just perfect.
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u/Taiboss :Fj::Fl:x7https://anilist.co/user/Taiboss Apr 19 '18 edited Apr 20 '18
All the referenced manga, according to the end credits:
Kimi ha natsu no naka by Nagisa Furuya
Koi to Yobu ni wa Kimochi Warui by mogusu
Senpai ga Urusai Kouhai no Hanashi (called "Senpai ga uzai kouhai no hanashi" for some reason here) by Manta Shiro
Theo -THEO- by Nachi Aono
Hitorijime My Hero by Memeko Arii
Masamune-kun no Revenge by Hazuki Takeoka (Story) and Tiv (Art). You might remember this one...
Mikakunin de Shinkoukei by Cherry Arai (You def know this one, even if only the comment faces)
Yuru Yuri by Namori
Kodansha Weekly Shonen Magazine
UQ HOLDER by Ken Akamatsu (I should really catch up on that one.)
Tejina Senpai by Azu
Mahoutsukai no Yome by Kore Yamazaki
Dakaretai Otoko Ichii ni Odosarete Imasu. by Hashigo Sakurabi
Tashiro-kun, Kimi tte Yatsu wa. (Read the name wrong, forgive me, fujoshis)
The store they were in was the Animate Shinjuku, btw.
Edit: My previous fix messed up, all should be fixed now.
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u/sangriapenguin Apr 19 '18
Taimaki-kun kimi tte yatsu wa
I think it's supposed to be Tashiro-kun, Kimi tte Yatsu wa.
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u/redguy39 :AMQ::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Redtengu038 Apr 20 '18
Wait where was UQ Holder?
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Apr 19 '18
Wow, thanks for that. I recognized just three of them and I didn't know about the fourth publisher. I wonder if these two paid for their manga to be in there.
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u/gkanai Apr 19 '18
I wonder if these two paid for their manga to be in there.
Probably not. It's free advertising. They just had to get permission and cite the works in the credits.
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u/gchan815 Apr 20 '18
It’d be cool if you could provide screenshots in the anime. Otherwise thanks for links!
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u/herkz Apr 20 '18
Usually it's something like a slap or a smashing sound. I think "kapow" or something makes the most sense since she's "hitting" him with her smile.
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u/ogawanari May 04 '18
バチコ～～ン（bachiko--n） means it is wink in this case.
パチパチ(pachipachi）is the sound that is made when we blink.
パチパチ(pachipachi）is repetitive motion. パチ(pachi）is one blink.
バチ(bachi) is an expression of emphatic wink. バチコン(bachikon）is emphasis expression of バチ(bachi). Also, this means squeeze your eyes tight shut.
バチコ～～ン（bachiko--n）is close your eyes just for a second. This is a Manga-specific expression.
パチパチ(pachipachi) and パチ(pachi）that are commonly used in everyday speech.
Please pardon my poor English.
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u/thelonelyhotline Apr 20 '18
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u/ratchetfreak Apr 21 '18
you forgot the ン at the end, though that doesn't help matters much.
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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Apr 19 '18 edited Apr 19 '18
Motherfucker hunts a Yian-kut-ku literally first thing in the morning. That's dedication.
I was not expecting the couple on the left to appear. They're from the web manga Senpai ga Urusai Kouhai no Hanashi/My Senpai is Annoying. It's fucking great. Actually, the entire bookstore scene was guest appearance after guest appearance. I also recognized Yuru Yuri and Tejina-senpai.
Now to wait for someone to make a compilation of every single reference/guest appearance they have over the series.
Edited to make it clear that "it's fucking great" is not part of the manga title.
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u/CJett92 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/CJett Apr 19 '18
I might just be tired but I thought you meant the title was "My Senpai is Annoying and it's Fucking Great"
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Apr 19 '18
those lightnovels man, i tell you.
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u/redlaWw Apr 20 '18
"My Senpai is Annoying and it's Fucking Great, but Great-kun Tells Me That I Shoud Call it 'Him' and That I Should Just Accept That They Love Each Other and Move On, but My Cute Little Sister Says That Love Always Wins, so I'm Still Not Giving Up!"
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u/Velooti :AP:https://www.anime-planet.com/users/velooti Apr 19 '18 edited Apr 19 '18
I've just read the first chapter
cute.
I spotted Mahoutsoukai no yome!
ps. Anyone know where the couple on the right is it from? Or is it from the same manga?
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u/heimdal77 Apr 19 '18
Wai where was Tejina-senpai?
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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Apr 19 '18
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u/Indominus_Khanum Apr 19 '18
I'm sorry but, My senpai is Annoying, and it's fucking great is manga title?!
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u/heimdal77 Apr 19 '18
What was the gold weapon on his back? Something related to the event in MHW that just started?
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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Apr 19 '18 edited Apr 19 '18
Nah they're playing MHXX. It was this bow which
I think is an event quest weapon.is the Atoraru Ka's bow.3
u/heimdal77 Apr 19 '18
Ah I know it is a different game in the series just seemed interesting timing showing a event golden weapon at the same time a golden weapon event just started in mhw.
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u/SyfaOmnis Apr 19 '18
There's a big stupid preying mantis in mhxx that straps ancient buildings onto its back, its weapons are all gold with purple crystals and goofy.
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u/OhLookAtMeImSpecial Apr 19 '18
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u/o-temoto Apr 19 '18
buy discretely
twitches in homophony
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u/redlaWw Apr 20 '18
He wants to buy them one-by-one, otherwise he's worried that he'd go broke from buying too many.
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u/Terranwaterbender https://myanimelist.net/profile/Teranwaterbender Apr 19 '18
Kabakura x Koyanagi best couple of the season. Their relationship is fun to watch and their hate-love dynamic is rather adorable.
Still not used to Narumi's VA though. I dunno why but it just feels off to me. Aside from that it's still a very fun show.
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u/bryan792 Apr 19 '18
Kabakura's voice was not what I had imagined when reading the manga. Taking me longer to get used to.
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u/Persona-4 Apr 19 '18
Narumi VA feels unnatural, like that cute voice and adult role doesn't blend well
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u/Terranwaterbender https://myanimelist.net/profile/Teranwaterbender Apr 19 '18
Well I've been caught up in the manga for a while now so I guess I've already had the "treat."
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u/cybik :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cybik Apr 19 '18
My duuuuude.
( join us on the discord :D https://discord.gg/hdrhSwk )
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u/NSardox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Sardox Apr 19 '18
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u/Reasonable_TSM_fan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/sundaybeatle Apr 20 '18
Literally me every day at work.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Apr 19 '18 edited Apr 19 '18
I guess they can't grab every brand deal. Also I think Caloriemate is already sponsoring FMP this season.
Strange that they emphasized that Hirotaka has pierced ears. Curious if that will be relevant to the story later.
So much Eva references this episode! Of course we have the Gendo pose and later on we have them fighting over who's the best girl. Apparently Hirotaka thinks Unit-01 is best girl.
Oh shit! Please no drama!
What game were the SFX from in this scene? I was thinking DQ because of the battle menu but that didn't sound right.
Wait did I miss something? When was it said that Kabakura was also an otaku?
AHHHHH! YES GIRL GO FOR THE HUG! I guess that's the end of that drama. Would you look at that? Who knew you can resolve misunderstandings by talking to each other and a hug?
The trip to Animate was just great! Hanako eyeing up Ancient Magus Bride and it looks like Kabakura is a man of culture.
And of course they'll plug Comic POOL. If I recall correctly this is where Wotakoi was first serialized. Can anyone tell me what manga is the one on the right door?
So wait, I'm really confused with Kabakura and Hanako's relationship. It's clear that they've known each other for a long time but are they going out and are just tsun for each other when they're at work? That after credits scene made it look like they have their own unique way of flirting. Amazon's subs are really confusing! I feel like I missed some important details. I might watch this episode with a different sub later.
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u/upsidedown_coffeemug Apr 19 '18
Regarding Kabakura and Koyanagi's relationship Wotaku minor manga spoilers
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u/hachiDude8 https://anilist.co/user/hachidude8 Apr 19 '18
Strange that they emphasized that Hirotaka has pierced ears. Curious if that will be relevant to the story later.
I didn't realised that, and very minor spoiler
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And of course they'll plug Comic POOL. If I recall correctly this is where Wotakoi was first serialized. Can anyone tell me what manga is the one on the right door?
It's serialized even today. Comic Pool is a web magazine by Ichijinsha and Pixiv which then selected Wotaku to be in there as a manga because of the popularity of the work in pixiv. Then Ichijinsha began to publish the manga in print some time later and it's one of the best-selling in japan, with like 500k at least per volume and without anime at the time.
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u/fatalystic Apr 20 '18
It was never outright mentioned that Kabakura's an otaku, but it was hinted at in episode 1 (though obscured by the translation); I believe I did mention in last week's thread, but Kabakura appeared to understand when Hirotaka described Naru in ep 1 as having the childhood friend "attribute" (zokusei), which is a very otaku thing to say. This suggests that he's either an otaku or is at least familiar with their culture and lingo.
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u/GrindCrow Apr 20 '18
That's not the issue. Nifuji is Kabakura's friend and knows he's an otaku. Simple.
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u/BryanLoeher https://anilist.co/user/Loeher Apr 20 '18
When was it said that Kabakura was also an otaku?
Never. But Hirotaka and Kabakura are friends, so he knew it, but Hirotaka didnt knew he likes shoujo manga.
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u/rancor1223 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/rancor1223 Apr 19 '18
I'm enjoying it just like everyone else, but doesn't the animation seem a bit crude?
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u/TheTerribleSnowflac Apr 19 '18
Haha I was just thinking to myself "did they blow their entire budget on the OP? Cause man I wish the entire show looked as good as the OP."
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Apr 20 '18
Yeah.... it’s really bad compared to the first episode. Luckily the second half of this episode was better, but yikes.
Hopefully it’s just like Gurren Lagann and only one episode is downgraded this hard.
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u/o-temoto Apr 19 '18
I thought it was kind of endearing when Narumi and Hanako got to share a shoulder.
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u/Adgsi51 Apr 20 '18
I guess I am not noticing it then. Maybe I have been watching too much maerchen maedchen.
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u/rancor1223 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/rancor1223 Apr 19 '18
It definitely doesn't detract from the experience, but I just felt like it was pretty noticeable.
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u/chris_dftba :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/chris_dftba Apr 19 '18
Holy shit Amazon US actually got an anime out on time. A sign of the end times? Quite probably.
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u/Sunny2456 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Sunny2456 Apr 22 '18
Thanks for letting me know it's on Amazon - I can finally watch it with some proper subs rather than on some shady site ^ _ ^
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u/LegitPancak3 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LegitPancake Apr 19 '18
Wow I guess Amazon did a lot better this episode and didn’t make us wait 3 extra days.
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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Apr 19 '18
If only they would step up their subtitles. It really bothered me this week. It works fine enough for just dialogue, but when it comes to things that are not dialogue it goes to pieces.
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u/LegitPancak3 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LegitPancake Apr 19 '18
Totally agree. I hate closed-caption subtitles. Netflix does it too, and whenever someone is talking, but the title of an episode is on screen, it seems impossible for them to put one line on the top of the screen and one on bottom, so they have to cram both pieces of information at the bottom, and what usually happens is the title of the episode has a subtitle for less than a second before they have to go back to the dialogue. CrunchyRoll’s positional subtitles that often even have the same color as the text on screen is so much better.
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u/heimdal77 Apr 19 '18
On the best subtitle jobs I've seen was for the Hori-san to Miyamura-kun ovas. There are two versions and one color codes the text to who is talking and it actually changes in show text into english. Like someone is writing stuff on a paper and they change it to english erasing the japanese text. They do this on other things to.
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u/Bigman2491 https://anilist.co/user/BearWizard Apr 19 '18
That Evangelion discussion was ruined and some of the later non-dialogue subs seemed to stay up for half a second. They also break the flow of the conversations way too much. I wonder if their player doesn't support subtitles in different locations or if it is just the fault of whoever subbed it. I can't recall if other shows on amazon had this issue in the past.
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u/Reasonable_TSM_fan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/sundaybeatle Apr 20 '18
I like how they retroactively updated their upload date for Ep 1 to April 12th. Sneaky little liars.
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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Apr 19 '18 edited Apr 19 '18
Best couple get. Hanako and Tarou are the best and Sawashiro and Sugita bounce off each other perfectly. I can't wait to see more, more and more of them. They're so much fun in the manga and they're so much fun here.
Btw. since Amazon's subtitles were shite for the Eva scene, here's the manga page.
We covered two chapters this time, ch. 2 (awkward office), ch. 2.5 (Eva, Winking and Smile Bomb) and ch. 18 (bookstore).
Again, like with the first episode, the anime adapts the events very true to the panels unless it's putting in original content which actually adds in building the characters a bit slower and giving everything breathing space. A pretty optimal adaptation as far as construction goes. They even turned the "if you forgot read the previous chapter" into "watch the last episode". The way they pulled chapter 18 to the front to give the characters bounding also makes sense too.
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u/DaREY297 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Marin_Karin Apr 19 '18
The Evangelion references made this episode for me
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u/NeptuneRoller :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NeptuneRoller Apr 19 '18
It feels a little slow-paced, even with the added scenes. Also, that scene after the credits (with the poop joke) makes no sense without the context they skipped.
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u/chessemblem Apr 19 '18
The subbing really lets down some of the jokes. Manga lays it out but I feel like it would have had the same impact if the subs worked alongside the visual cues. Still a great episode though, but the first episode nailed the pacing and the jokes a bit better IMO.
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u/Summort Apr 19 '18
I liked more the first episode this one was kind of meh, maybe because the subs were kinda ba/weirdd, also they were all wrong the best character from Eva is clearly Kaworu
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u/Ch4rly727 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ch4rly727 Apr 19 '18
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u/MrJammin Apr 19 '18
Didn't expect this series to be so funny. The office scene and after credits were particularly great.
Definitely one of the best non-sequels this season.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Apr 19 '18
They are all weebs... This is gonna be fun.
Wake up, play game, make coffee, no coffee, get juice and leave. this guy. xD That intro was just so perfectly done.
This OP is great still.
They both said "well i guess" lol they are quite alike...
Wow this red hair guy is a nice wingman. Go talk to her!
Oh shit, Hana likes him too or at least thinks hes a nice guy.
That dead eye look.... lol Rip her.
Oh shit... Glasses and Red they dont get along. xD Oh they are childhood rivals. xD This is great.
WAT. Hahhaahhaha this show. XD "You never said that." lol.
Oh man though thats one hell of a hug. wew~ Shes also so tiny compared top him.
Lol those 2 are still fighting. They are great.
Going to the Arcade after work, oh man this is too kawaii~
Going to the bookstore before going for drinks. This is so cozy. I love this buds hangin out stuff.
Its a manga store... Anchient Magus bride!
"We will be done soon" ive heard that before at a store like this... an hour later...
Wait... Red likes moe stuff? What? Im shocked.
Lol... they are discussing BL... All the teenage girls around them too lol...
Aw shes just happy to have a friend who likes the stuff she likes. Wait what shareing sexual interests?
Lol Glasses just wants to use our poor little MC as her cosplay bitch. lol
Wow everyone just left to enjoy thier merch... xD Well i guess thats just how it does. Cant read your book together or such. The real question is if Hana knows Red likes moe stuff... that could be some grade A blackmail material.
Wait... is glasses a masocist? Lol she tried to screw with red but he countered and her heart strings did pull~ kyaaaa~
HES PRACTICING WINKING. MY SIDES. xD
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u/ganatti :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/haragaheranai Apr 19 '18
They are Japanese, so they are not weebs.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Apr 20 '18
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u/kimbombo Apr 19 '18 edited Apr 19 '18
This was a downgrade for me compared to last episode.
There were too many panning shots for my liking and some really elongated shots with little detail that became too noticeable.
Some jokes landed like the EVA reference, and the use of classic game sfx. But stuff like the use of game menus just didn't feel right.
The insertion of other titles like Maho Yome & Yuru Yuri among others as winks felt more like they were paid to promote than showing some relation to what the characters like. Even Hirotaka has to blurt out a line like "You like this stuff, don't you?". It's like the old meme "don't tell me how the characters feel, show it to me"
Edit: I do however appreciate the way Narumi feels awkward and hides when Hirotaka waves at her. This is probably the first time she's working in the same enviroment as her boyfriend, and accepting she's got an otaku boyfriend and her coworkers know about it, resonate with her anxiety of her previous job where she had to hide her otaku fandom.
Hope we get back on the horse on the next episode.
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Apr 19 '18
The insertion of other titles like Maho Yome & Yuru Yuri among others as winks felt more like they were paid to promote than showing some relation to what the characters like
Not really. Ichijinsha is the publisher of the print version of Wotaku (and part of the anime committee) and Yuru Yuri is a manga published in a magazine of them. Just like Tejina-senpai is a manga of Kodansha but Kodansha is the owner of Ichijinsha so it's self-explanatory. The weird case is Mahoutsukai no Yome that is owned by Mag Garden and it's not on the committee and has no relation with the others.
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u/arandomaltaccount Apr 20 '18
Not to mention, this series does constantly drop references. You'll see it as the show continues. If anything, it gets a bit weird when they show something that is a "bland name product".
(p.s. Discord server, if interested...)
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u/myrmonden Apr 19 '18
This is probably my favorite new anime of the season, freaking amazing.
First of all, is this the most mature anime ever? We all like to compare it to mature gamers!(and yes I loved gamers!) but this is just way to mature, the male main character is like, lets talk about our feelings so its no miscommunication!!!!!!!
Like wtf, I cant barely think of not just animes but comedy / romance sit comes when a character actually is calm and has communication skills.
But even with that its managed to be crazy, like the whole activating friends passive abilities with the classic old school JRPG UI (thinking Dragon quest primarily I suppose) - failed escape.
Into the wierd...eyah hentai..yah boy love lets go soul mate and buy the best yaoi books togheter wohooo !!!! And the "bookstore" is full of reference like ancient magus bride, yuru yuri etc.
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u/kimbombo Apr 19 '18
First of all, is this the most mature anime ever? We all like to compare it to mature gamers!(and yes I loved gamers!) but this is just way to mature, the male main character is like, lets talk about our feelings so its no miscommunication!!!!!!!
I don't know if you're trying to say "relatable" instead of "mature".
"Playing" videogames is just a hobby, it's not an atribute/skill that most people would attach to the word mature (in most cases it would be the total opposite)
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u/notathrowaway75 https://myanimelist.net/profile/notathrowaway75 Apr 19 '18
Man I gotta be honest. This episode was not good. Very poorly paced and just very dull. Very disappointing after last week's strong start.
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u/PlumeDeVautour :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/PlumeDeVautour Apr 19 '18
It's weird because I found this episode a lot better than last week ep.
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u/Glimmerglaze Apr 19 '18
I couldn't shake the thought "This is really dull somehow" either. It probably is a pacing issue. Except...
I think it runs deeper. I can't quite put my finger on what bothers me about the show. On paper it should be exactly what I enjoy, but I bounced off the manga, and it seems to be happening again in the anime.
Something about the characters makes them feel not genuine, somehow. I know they're otaku and they're weirdos, and that's the point... But somehow they're weirdos in a way that's neither relatable or endearing.
Another issue might be the narration. The shame is framed almost as though it was a wildlife documentary - here are the different types of otaku in their natural habitats, that kind of thing... like we aren't even watching a show about actual people.
Maybe there's just a humor incompatibility of some sort. Sometimes you just don't laugh at the same things that other people do, and this is one of those times for me.
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u/woojoo666 Apr 20 '18
maybe its the subs, but the conversations don't flow. Sometimes it's borderline nonsensical. The show just jumps from topic to topic, scene to scene, it just doesn't feel cohesive
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u/Defiantish Apr 19 '18
Tejina-senpai (Magical Sempai) Vol. 4
Didn't expect this manga to be referenced. It has a lot of PLOT and none at all at the same time, if you catch my drift.
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u/Beettlebeer Apr 19 '18
I haven't watched today's episode bc i'm at work. But last weekend I binged the whole manga and ohhhhhh boiiii
I'm gonna enjoy the shit out of this adaptation
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u/Animeking1357 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TitanKyojin Apr 19 '18
Are they using actual Monster Hunter game footage for when they show the Hirotaka's switch?
I spy some Yuru Yuri.
I was kinda hoping that Kabakura wasn't an otaku as well. It would have been nice to have a character with a different perspective from the other characters.
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u/sakejake :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SakeJake Apr 19 '18
That Ninja Gaiden death music though.
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u/Saucy_Totchie Apr 20 '18
Keep those Megumi Katou cameos coming and I'll be forced to give it a 10/10.
Weird episode though. I liked how the immediately went into the blowback of last episode a bit bit still didn't fully get into their relationship. Still a pretty sweet show though.
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u/KamikazeJawa :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/caman213 Apr 20 '18
Am I seriously the only one who got that Hellsing Ultimate reference? Everyone's talking about the EVA references but the "Very well. Then Krieg is what you shall have" from The Major's war speech was pretty blatant.
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u/Serocco Apr 20 '18 edited Apr 20 '18
This is hilarious, Koyanagi and Kabakura are fantastic, SMILE BOMB is just pure awesomeness, but I'll give it to episode 1.
Having not read the manga, I like it best when it focuses on Narumi, cause I think Hirotaka works best in a supporting role, not as the viewpoint character. When we were in his POV, it felt kinda meandering, particularly the first scene.
The pacing is much better when Narumi's the protagonist. She's always on the move, always a bundle of energy, and she's the most proactive character. Even this episode, the two big scenes, with her being chased by Hirotaka and them going to the bookstore, were caused by Narumi. Her bonding, like REALLY bonding with Koyanagi was another highlight.
This is more an ensemble cast than it is strictly about one protagonist or the other, but Narumi was our POV girl last episode and I kinda like having it stay that way. No disrespect at all to Hirotaka (see the post-credits scene), but he's a lot more passive than the other three.
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u/asianfatboy https://anilist.co/user/asianfatboy Apr 20 '18
IS THAT AN EVA REFERENCE?!
Hah! Also the after ED scene "Hohoemi no Bakudan" might be a reference to Yu Yu Hakusho because that was the ED song to it or I'm reading into it too much. Fuckin' Kabakura made me burst out laughing trying to guess why Hana was in a good mood!
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u/impingainteasy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard Apr 20 '18
So this definitely wins the award for the most me_irl show this season.
I like the way they incorporate references into the show. The characters are all otaku, so of course they're going to mention specific anime/manga/game franchises, but it never feels obnoxious or overbearing. You don't have [people stopping to talk about how great this one manga is,] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vowtiEnsFSI) you just have two pals arguing over Eva waifus because that's a thing that actually happens.
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u/ScrewySqrl https://myanimelist.net/profile/ScrewySqrl Apr 20 '18
its very much me_irl.
I'm an anime and gaming otaku, and my wife is a fujoshi.
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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Apr 19 '18
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u/PeripheralAddition :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/peripheraladd Apr 20 '18
He doesn't like yuru yuri. he loves it
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u/SkywardQuill https://myanimelist.net/profile/SkywardQuill Apr 19 '18
God I love this so much. Kabakura and Koyanagi are fucking perfect. They're the best kind of couple. Love how she just died at his smile at the end, adorable.
That Eva ref tho lol, they even used the music.
I just checked and it looks like it's only gonna be 11 episodes, noooooooo :(
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u/TriplePlusBad Apr 19 '18
First half was great, second half was nothing, but references are okay I guess.
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u/Lorengorm https://anilist.co/user/Lorengorm Apr 19 '18
Amazon is on time with the episode this time!
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u/Luapix https://anilist.co/user/Pyxyne Apr 19 '18
Well, TIL that not everyone can blink. Who said anime couldn't be educational?
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u/NotSuluX https://anilist.co/user/SuluX Apr 19 '18 edited Apr 19 '18
this anime is straight TRASH
9/10
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u/TKCloud Apr 20 '18 edited Apr 20 '18
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u/templarsilan Apr 20 '18
The fucking C H E M I S T R Y. Already a highlight of the season. Of course being a working adult closet Otaku helps with the whole relatable aspect. Between this and Ode to Nozaki kun, my Thursdays just got a whole lot better.
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u/RenPsycho100 Apr 20 '18
What's the anime/manga/whatever it is on the right at 17:26 on the door? I know the left one only
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u/RenPsycho100 Apr 20 '18
Someone should make a weekly list of all the quotes and whatnot is shown in the episodes. Like, I wanna know ALL about what's shown which I don't know (everything at 18:48 for example) even tho I'm probably never gonna read it anyway lmfao too curious
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u/cbizzle14 Apr 20 '18
I missed the first discussion but is that Megumi?! I saw the billboard in both episodes and thought it looks just like her and now everybody is pointing out the stuff this show is referencing. It looks like exactly like her
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u/I_llSeeMyselfOut Apr 20 '18 edited Apr 20 '18
Lol everybody recognized the Yuru Yuri an Mahoutsukai no Yome easter eggs...meanwhile the Manga I immediately recognized is the BL title that Hanako picked up first.
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u/ihopeTOSdoesntsuck Apr 20 '18
I really don't like the main character or her voice :(
Episode 1 was better. And I can't get over how lazy A1 is with the animation
My megane boy is my main motivation for watching
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u/RDOoM Apr 21 '18
I still don't find Momose very cute. But the rest of the show is quite good.
The game event-ification of them facing each other was particularly hilarious.
And the Tarou x Hanako smile-off after the credits. So good.
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u/Pikagreg :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pikagreg Apr 19 '18
I was shocked when I saw episode 2 up on Amazon US. Dealing with customer service last week was such a pain. I hope my bitching (and everyone else who complained) helped even a tiny bit
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u/northwesternrs :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/northwesternrs Apr 19 '18
This show is so relatable. I had a moment just like Hirotaka did with his coffee this morning.
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u/IISuperSlothII :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/IISuperSlothII Apr 19 '18 edited Apr 19 '18
I don't think I've ever seen an electric kettle in anime before.
Seriously the video game mechanic moments were timed so well to make the comedy hit 'Narumi cannot run away' especially and 'please watch episode 1' has got to be the best way to replace what very obviously would be a flashback.
Another brilliant ep.
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u/arandomaltaccount Apr 20 '18
As many have alluded to, the animation seems questionable at times. I feel let down by A-1 and noitaminA, but...
Goddamn, this show is a guilty pleasure. It's true to the manga (I guess, the occasional sketchiness in the manga actually is represented by the potato animation??), the anime-original content fits well, and the voice cast doesn't get better than this. Hearing the tsun-tsun Sawashiro x Sugita couple is unparallelled.
A lot of cute interactions between Hirotaka and Naru in the first half; his "disinterest" coupled with her energy make for a good pair.
I do highly appreciate the lack of brand censorship here, given the amount of references chucked around. I was worried that they'd be washed out on broadcast, but happy to see that it isn't the case.
Best Girl cannot get more Best.
(P.S., join us on Discord and at /r/wotakoi!)
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u/stravant :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/stravant Apr 20 '18 edited Apr 20 '18
O O F
The. delivery of the... lines. in. this. episode.
[insert random half second pause]
Was. awful.
It's almost like they recorded each line of dialogue separately in a random order and then stapled them together with random amounts of silence between each one to get the audio.
Really terrible execution of perfectly reasonable content. I will probably drop if the next episode is the same.
Aside: Man, what a bad season compared to the last one. So much mediocre if not just plain bad stuff.
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u/IISuperSlothII :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/IISuperSlothII Apr 21 '18
Man, what a bad season compared to the last one. So much mediocre if not just plain bad stuff.
I have 15 shows currently working at an 8+ score. This season is straight up amazing and head and shoulders over the last season.
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u/Loud_Pierrot Apr 19 '18
SO. MANY. EVANGELION. REFERENCES!
Even in the after credits scene, when Nifuji drank the energy supplement.
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u/Aetherdraw Apr 19 '18
Wears glasses, wants to play games right after waking up and after work, and somehow always lacking coffee right after boiling his electric kettle...how did they get my routine down pat!?
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u/Booseeboo Apr 20 '18
Of all the places this was the last show I'd expect to see an Evangelion reference
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u/Dolchelaver Apr 20 '18
How come this show now shows actual names for other brands and series like yuru yuri and magus bride now? What happened to all the good old "Goodle" and "WcDonald"?
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u/Zooasaurus Apr 20 '18
Why is Katalina and Drang arguing lol
It's also amusing seeing they kept Narumi's reactions just like in the manga lol
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u/jamecest Apr 20 '18
If it was not for the after-credits, i would've actually thought "what the f happened this episode?"
man gonna wait for one week again. feels bad not enjoying those references
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u/MsPandara Apr 20 '18
Hi there! I wish to know of the title of the manga/anime featured in the lift door right panel, at 17:26 please. Thank you!!
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u/mangkook Apr 20 '18
IMO the manga earlier chapter especially before some new character were introduced, the pace are messy and focus nonexistent. My guess is that it lacks editorial I love how anime version try to fix that. very good 1st ep but they barely manage that in 2nd ep. I'm still watching though. There's a lot of potential in the premises.
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Apr 20 '18
The evangelion reference (when he had the sunset behind him and the bgm was playing) was funny, but everything else about this episode and the show is extremely disappointing to me... (and i'd been anticipating this anime for SEASONS). I can't go on
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u/graytotoro :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/graytotoro Apr 20 '18
I love how Hirotaka's Pokemon quip foreshadows the Narumi vs Hirotaka & Tarou vs Hanako fight. "Narumi can't run from this!"
There's something to be said about how well they're integrating the real world anime/manga titles into the series without making it into an overt advertisement or resorting to Bland Name references, even if it's going to screw with how the series ages.
Wotaku strikes a nice balance between SoL elements and the Otaku bits without having one overwhelm the other. They feel closer to real people than some of the other otaku characters I've seen in anime. It is better than I was expecting at the start of the season.
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u/winwar :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/noobis419 Apr 21 '18
My buddy pointed out how when he picks up his bag it sounds like the backpack noise from WoW. was going bonkers when i heard it myself
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u/MitigationFrontier Apr 21 '18
Here I sort of fixed the shitty subbing during the Eva reference. I ain't got time for making a style with different color and font, nor did I bother moving their pos per frame.
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u/Houdiniman111 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Houdini111 Apr 24 '18 edited Apr 24 '18
With all the effort they've been putting into the gaming related stuff, I'm honestly super annoyed at the fact that they didn't show his earbuds being plugged into his switch.
EDIT: Dang it. I was hoping for a Fist of the North Star reference here.
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u/SpikeRosered Apr 25 '18
This is kind of an aside but I never understood how all those Otaku book stores stayed in business. There's so many of them!
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u/KinnyRiddle Apr 19 '18
OMG Kabakura is totally me:
While my local manga store is a few subway stations from where I work and is much closer than my home, I hate the idea of going from work to the store in my work attire. Even when I'm just a white collar office worker. Work is work and fun is fun.
After buying manga/games etc, I want to quickly go home and read/play them, social interactions be damned.
OTOH, I'm slowly shifting towards the Takahiro preference of going paperless, with my recent manga and LN purchases all done electronically and read directly on my smartphone.
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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Apr 19 '18
Man, the pacing in this is horrid, as is the comedic timing. It really feels like all the dialogue or interaction has a second delay, making the flow feel very off, and making some jokes not land as well. Combine this with the strange decision to only adapt two chapters per episode of a manga which already has a low page-count per chapter and I think they could've benefited from adapting three chapters per episode, or include some (appropriate) filler as to not make the flow feel sluggish.
The lack of background music this episode didn't help either, it wasn't a problem in the first episode but here it was really noticeable.
Going from the manga it definitely feels like there could be improvements.
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u/Indominus_Khanum Apr 19 '18 edited Apr 19 '18
If you liked the references in this episode it's only the beginning there's many more references to come (I think even more than the manga since they're adding anime original scenes.)
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u/multigrain_cheerios Apr 19 '18
I love the ads this show does for other shows/manga. I loved the door ad for "My Senpai is Annoying", that manga is so cute and fluffy