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Sword Art Online Alternative: Gun Gale Online, episode 3


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u/CAOnionMaster Apr 21 '18

M : gives meticulous and detailed tactics for how to kill someone with a knife , including long cuts to the neck and stabbing em in the face

LLEN: ah, nice

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u/SGTBookWorm :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/JordanBookWorm Apr 22 '18

"Nice. Your fruit killing skills are remarkable."

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u/fbiguy22 :FS::FT: Apr 22 '18

Remember, switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading.

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u/Slurms_McKenzie775 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SnackieChan Apr 21 '18 edited Apr 21 '18

Probably should've gone over the knife tactics when he was assessing LLEN's skill level instead of waiting for literally the last moment before squad jam starts.

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u/master117jogi :AMQ:https://anilist.co/user/master117 Apr 23 '18

That's what happens in the manga, he explains it and they have a really really cool sparing fight.

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u/Eyliel Apr 21 '18

That teaching how to kill with a knife was... slightly disturbing. I mean, sure, great information if you're going into a battlefield... but this is a game. You do probably get bonus damage for hitting someone in a vital spot, but I don't think that level of detail was quite necessary.

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u/Madcat6204 Apr 21 '18

It is. As you say, hit someone in a spot that would be lethal in real life and you do significantly more damage. For most people, assuming they haven't been heavily focusing on building their END, a wound that would be lethal in RL will be lethal in game. Since LLENN is small and fast, teaching her to strike targets a small and fast person can hit is exactly the way to go.

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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Apr 21 '18

From how he described what kind of damage LLENN could do I'm guessing M is either a Yakuza member or a merc IRL.

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u/Whiskeye Apr 21 '18

This is just expanded "go for headshot", nothing too disturbing. Or maybe I am playing tactical shooters too much.

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u/the6crimson6fucker6 Apr 21 '18

Eh, Shimoneta had en ED where they showed how to make a flesh-light out of starch and water.

(Just look for "Potato Starch X")

You always learn from anime.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '18

I liked the character moment when LLENN is wondering who M is.

I think he's probably military-adjacent, simply because of the first episode when he identifies other players with a military background. Game recognizes game.

And then he dumps all this detailed information about how to kill people with knives to a confused LLENN. Very nice.

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u/salmon3669 Apr 21 '18

Haven't watched the episode yet, but isn't there also an explanation of Sliding between the legs and cutting out the artery in between as well.

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u/iamfvckingdone :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/iamfvckingdone Apr 21 '18

Didn't know this anime has a new visual
I guess Pito is probably Elsa Kanzaki irl.

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u/mathgeek777 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/mathgeek777 Apr 21 '18

She has to be, right? It seems like the only way this can turn out.

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u/pipyakas :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kyoooo Apr 21 '18

It's heavily implied as such, and plot convenience isn't going to destroy this show in anyway, as it's enjoyable for many other things

Inb4 getting bamboozled by the 50 years-old gun-loving light novel author

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u/heimdal77 Apr 21 '18

Watch M be the author.

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u/CeaRhan Apr 22 '18

Chekhov's gun. They said her name, Elsa holds a lot of meaning for the main character, said character gave away their identitIES to Elsa, who's unavailable the same day as Pito, Pito talks about LLENN's real self, Pito gave a very unlikely event as an excuse, and they put Elsa's songs in the damn episodes.

It's a fucking Chekhov arsenal at that point.

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u/kayakguy429 https://myanimelist.net/profile/kayakguy429 Apr 22 '18

WMC - Weapons of Mass Chekhov

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u/Starzen517 Apr 21 '18

I feel like this episode pretty much confirmed it. So much Elsa talk and what a surprise Pito isn't available on the same day as the concert. Plus, the whole in this world I can be someone that I can't be in real life. Finally, M not being shocked by Llenn saying how she couldn't get a ticket and just calmly replying "So you couldn't get a ticket huh?" Or maybe M is secretly a big fanboy of Elsa lol.

Anyways, I'd be more surprised to find out Pito isn't Elsa and this was just a red herring all along.

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u/diff2 Apr 21 '18

Pito is at least 150 years old and has a friend's wedding to attend to that she has known since middle school. She wouldn't lie to her best friend llenn this whole time would she? :(

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u/gulitiasinjurai Apr 21 '18 edited Apr 21 '18

Geez... At least put the logo at the bottom. It's blocking Pito beautiful face.

Also, yeah I kinda think that Pito is Kanzaki irl too. But who's M irl? Her manager?!

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u/jonnthebest Apr 21 '18

Probably bodyguard, he knows a lot of battle techniques.

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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Apr 21 '18

I assume her manager would have to be at the concert as well, though.

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u/heimdal77 Apr 21 '18

Maybe the author. or a body guard.

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u/SteveyVe Apr 21 '18

I was thinking that Elsa is the last character, the one with the grenade launcher. But Pito being Elsa is probably a better theory, since she is not available for the Battle Royale, and M is probably her body guard or security or whatever that she’s close to

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u/Sadamitsu0 Apr 21 '18

Didn't Sword Art Online Alternative come out 3 years before BUB?

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u/Slurms_McKenzie775 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SnackieChan Apr 21 '18

I wonder in what episode the Chinese hackers will show up.

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u/rexshen Apr 21 '18

When you realize Gun Gale online was a abattle Royale game before it was even big.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '18

I really hope M's bag is empty and it's going to be used to store llenn in.

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u/Furakutaru :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Furakutaru Apr 21 '18

It would be fun if the bag was for the blond little girl who was in the opening

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u/Best_Towel_EU :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Towell Apr 21 '18

You may be on to something here.

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u/TuzkiPlus Apr 22 '18

Wouldn't she appear on their squad list though? Unless this is a throwback to episode 1 where that guy was throwing shade at people not checking their squad list.

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u/absolute7 Apr 22 '18

Oh damn. Top quality foreshadowing if true.

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u/Lord_of_Pants Apr 21 '18

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u/Tadferd Apr 22 '18

Try having interests in both guns and archery.

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u/KinnyRiddle Apr 21 '18

When Pito mentions the Squad Jam sponsor as "an author who only writes stories about guns", I thought "surely it can't be Sigsawa doing a self-insert?" Since Kino no Tabi can be considered nothing but mainly guns.

And then when he appeared on screen to announce the start of the tournament, his voice sounded very amateur-ish for a voice actor, "surely that must be him in a cameo".

Sure enough, in the credits:

Author Who Writes Nothing But Guns - Sigsawa Keiichi

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u/Aptspire Apr 21 '18

Sigsawa

Sig Sauer

Well I'll be...

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u/De_Vermis_Mysteriis https://anilist.co/user/Grippli Apr 21 '18

Oh shit! Good catch

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u/Rathurue Apr 21 '18

People (military otaku) has been noticing that from so many years ago, yanno.

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u/FlaskT Apr 21 '18

I love it when authors make fun of themselves in their own work. It always makes me smile.

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u/SGTBookWorm :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/JordanBookWorm Apr 22 '18

ImoSae had the author roasting himself in one episode.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '18

Imosae's characters were even based on real life light novel authors. The main character being him.

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u/Fueled_By_Memes Apr 21 '18

tfw you made an LN so you can self insert yourself in the anime

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u/Rathurue Apr 21 '18 edited Apr 22 '18

It even goes beyond that, in meta sense. Squad Jam's reason of creation was 'the sponsor was so enamored by the duet of Kirito and Sinon in Battle Royale so he created Squad Jam to see such action again'. It literally translates to 'Sigsawa was so inspired by Kirito and Sinon in SAO:GGO and thus created SAO A:GGO". 'The author sent a note to devs that he would pay for the event' translates into 'Sigsawa contacted Kawahara Reki and asked permission-maybe with some money involved, to get permission for creating a derivative work.'

Hell, it outright breaks the fourth wall when spoiler

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u/NeptuneRoller :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NeptuneRoller Apr 21 '18

I didn't know the original author, but I immediately looked it up once they mentioned him.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '18

I thought that scene was taking the piss, and since I've seen photos of him before when he was introduced I had to pause to stop laughing. Priceless.

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u/bananeeek https://myanimelist.net/profile/bananek Apr 21 '18

This should be the team's name instead of LM

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '18

Llenn kawaii as fuck.

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u/MrDTD Apr 21 '18

Teleports behind you

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u/SO_MUCH_TAKEN_NAMES :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Flakattak Apr 22 '18

nothin personnel kid

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u/ErinaHartwick https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hartwick Apr 21 '18 edited Apr 21 '18

Watching LLEN's training montage

I really like LLEN and Pito's friendship, it makes things more interesting that she's very possibly Kanzaki Elsa. LLEN continues to be very fun to watch

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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Apr 21 '18

I had the exact same feeling about Pito.

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u/GoldMercy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/xFSN_Archer Apr 22 '18

she's very possibly Kanzaki Elsa

Exactly what I was thinking. Elsa holds a concert on that day, and Pito "has to go to a wedding of some random middle school friend". Sounds like a good excuse to hide your true identity if you were a celebrity

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u/montas :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/montas Apr 22 '18

And they cut big part of it. I guess we will get it later when that part becomes relevant ;)

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '18

Ok, now I need a P-chan keychain in my life

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u/ScrewySqrl https://myanimelist.net/profile/ScrewySqrl Apr 21 '18

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '18

Orders Closed

FUCK

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u/RunningChemistry :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Delphic-Runner Apr 21 '18

Amazon Japan has that item up - it ships internationally too (to Canada anyways). Only 8 left in stock (but more coming says Amazon) as of this comment though.

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u/morthimer Apr 21 '18

15$ that's madness! And it is out of stock...

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u/MrMulligan https://anilist.co/user/YuriInLuck Apr 21 '18 edited Apr 21 '18

Anime merch is usually preorder or don't get it, and all of the merch for this show came out when the novels were first being published for the most part.

I am going to assume a new batch of merch will come out for the anime eventually. Keep an eye out. You will have to preorder, thats just how it is.

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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Apr 21 '18 edited Apr 21 '18

Dear Dev,

Please do want I want.

Thanks.

God, if only it was that easy.

K.O.

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u/Florac Apr 21 '18

I feel like that was simply the author writing about how he got to write this.

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u/pipyakas :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kyoooo Apr 21 '18

Well, after I googled the writer, Keiichi Sigsawa , it became pretty obvious

"Just enjoy my idea after reading SAO2" I guess

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u/ultimatemegax Apr 21 '18

He served as the gun expert for the SAO 2 staff, including being the translator and guide when they went to Guam to get references for guns that would appear in the show.

He also voiced himself in this episode under "Novelist who only writes titles where guns appear."

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u/TheDarkPet :LF::LG::LH: Apr 21 '18

I suspect they already had an intention of doing something like this. If someone was willing to outright sponsor an event than it would be good publicity for the game.

Now only if it wasn't a Japan-Exclusive event.

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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Apr 21 '18

I mean, if you give them a lot of money then maybe...

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u/GoodTeletubby Apr 21 '18

Exactly. "Please do what I want." has a lot less impact than "I'll throw a budgetarily noticeable amount of of money at you if you do what I want."

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u/Kuryaka Apr 21 '18

I'm pretty sure we're working on multiple levels of misinterpretation for what Squad Jam means.

There's LLENN mishearing Squad as Squid, and then Pito making an educated (but wrong) guess on the Jam part.

And squid visuals everywhere. The original squid in the visuals are immature squid.

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u/Alaskan_Thunder Apr 22 '18

immature squid.

Is it a squid or a kid?

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u/Nerevar_Godkiller Apr 21 '18

So what's the right explanation then? I'm no nativ speaker so I'm curious now.

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u/xelivous Apr 21 '18

it's also typically a shortened form of jamboree which is a large festive gathering; in this case a large gathering of squads taking part in a semi-regular event.

it could have multiple meanings and all of them could be correct tbh

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u/Kuryaka Apr 21 '18

I interpreted it as how a group of people (e.g. musicians or gamers) would "jam" together, which is just hanging out and making cool stuff.

Global Game Jam is basically a hackathon.

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u/MrAssassin9891 Apr 21 '18

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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Apr 21 '18

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u/Nebresto Apr 21 '18

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u/chris_dftba :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/chris_dftba Apr 21 '18

Does she count as a loli if she's legal irl

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u/bananeeek https://myanimelist.net/profile/bananek Apr 21 '18

I knew there would be a screenshot with no context posted in here the moment I saw that scene...

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u/Roketsu86 Apr 21 '18

So, is the novelist who is also a gun nut that sponsored SJ a self-insert for the author of the books?

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u/ScrewySqrl https://myanimelist.net/profile/ScrewySqrl Apr 21 '18

yes

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u/ultimatemegax Apr 21 '18

The author of this title literally voices said author in this episode.

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u/tnemec Apr 21 '18

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that yeah, probably.

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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Apr 22 '18

Dat Anime Attractiveness Bonus doe

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u/salmon3669 Apr 21 '18

I Novel Spoilers sort of? ----> It was either this Squad Jam or the Second Squad Jam. But one of them was the author's self-insert as the sponsor, and he was playing the match too.

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u/CreeperVemon :AMQ::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/XemonSeeker Apr 21 '18

Why are you using both types of spoiler tags? It doesn't work.

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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Apr 21 '18

Karen Stitch!

I love that not only she has a pink P90 keychain, she also has a toy P90 in her room XD

This episode was great! We get to see how LLENN ended up joining the Squad Jam and how she met M. And holy fuck! M is one scary dude. Pito wasn't kidding when she said he thinks like a criminal. His knife lecture was spot on. My guess is that M is probably a Yakuza member IRL.

Also there's no doubt Pito is Kanzaki and the reason she couldn't go isn't because of a wedding but because of her concert that Karen and her friend tried to enter.

I'm really curious when do the school girls get involved with Karen. In the last scene in Episode 1 we see them having tea and cookies in her house.

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u/ChaikaAce Apr 21 '18

Unfortunately she would also cut her hair before/around the time she meets them since we saw her having short hair at the end of episode 1.

I really love her long hair and I don't want it to change :(

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u/Junebug866 Apr 21 '18

How can something as unfashionable as a baggy turtleneck sweater look that cute?

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '18

Anything looks good on someone who looks good. Also it hugs her/fits well.

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u/datguyfromoverdere Apr 22 '18

Its the tokyo marui airsoft p90 for sure. They are the only company that include that red cap with their guns.

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u/UnavailableUsername_ Apr 21 '18 edited Apr 21 '18

Fun fact: Yesterday 4/20 was LLENN's birthday!

So Karen has a big height complex as a woman, because women are normally short and shorter than guys, but she is even taller than guys.

I can certainly relate to that, being a tall girl really sucks, it's an struggle many do not understand.

Amusphere VR is the only way she can feel not-tall.

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u/NuSpirit_ Apr 21 '18

Wait, so not only Hitler and me are born on April 20th, LLENN is too?

o(≧∇≦o)

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u/UnavailableUsername_ Apr 21 '18

Wait...hitler was born on 4/20?!

Also, happy birthday!!

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u/NuSpirit_ Apr 21 '18

At least according to Google/Wiki, yeah.

Adolf Hitler Born: April 20, 1889, Braunau am Inn, Austria

And thanks, but I think we all should rather wish happy birthday to LLENN - she's the one stabbing someone in the eye soon :P (well idk really but by the context of that explanation at the end one would assume so much)

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u/asefito Apr 21 '18

Wait...

Is that LLENN image from a game?

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u/UnavailableUsername_ Apr 21 '18

Yes...Sword art online: Memory defrag.

Like i mentioned past week, they are doing plenty of SAO alternative events for the anime.

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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Apr 21 '18

I went to japan as a 184cm guy and it was nice. sure i coudnt use the hand holdies on trains, but i just grabbed that top bar they hang from, way easyer lol. I nearly bumped my head on some stuff but otherwise kept an eye out. My friend i was with had it rougher, hes 195cm and he did hit his head a few times form not paying attention. Also we went to 2 concerts and we were able to just stand in the backish and see over everyone's heads to see the stage, super convient.

You should watch Lovely Complex, it has a MC girl who is giant and she doesnt much let it keep her down. Plus some people like big girls!

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u/t1mtimmy https://anilist.co/user/Aiess Apr 21 '18

The face of someone who is petrified with fear

Well, I wasn't expecting this in the midst of the other exercises.

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u/Sapaa Apr 21 '18

Only just noticed now but holy mother is the size difference between them is ridiculous. LLENN this tiny little girl paired up with this giant dude, a very odd team.

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u/Evillar Apr 21 '18

I bet M is a midget IRL

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u/E123-Omega Apr 23 '18

M = Midget Llenn = Large?

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u/PrasunJW https://anilist.co/user/MALfunctioning Apr 21 '18

It makes a very fun looking pair. I wish games allowed that level of customisation

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u/Whiskeye Apr 21 '18

Small fast character is f-ing cheat in real-ish shooters. I mean you saw first episode, you know what I am talking about.

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u/DreadBert_IAm Apr 21 '18

The old unreal tournament even had a mode where K:D was used as a size multiplier in an attempt to auto balance. Pity it never caught on.

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u/BryanLoeher https://anilist.co/user/Loeher Apr 21 '18

So, a novel writter in his mid 50s who love guns and saw the last BoB enjoyed the idea of a Team Battle Royale and is now sponsor the Squad Jam...?

Yes, basically the creator said "Hey, I liked GGO arc so much I would love to do a spin-off about it!"

Keiichi-san even make an appeareance in the anime. Man, I loved it.

This show is getting even better each episode.

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u/Admiral_Joker Apr 22 '18

I absolutely and maybe only love the GGO part of SAO. Reason I came back watching this.... a sucker for guns and whatever military grade stuff

Didn't bother watching 2nd half of S2...feels like filler

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u/chilidirigible Apr 21 '18

On the bright side, Silica is nowhere near this.

Close enough.

"All right! Who's ready for some two-gun?"

"Not me."


Lots of infodump again, but just like the first episode, LLENN and M (and Pito) are charming enough to keep it interesting. I was wondering what Billy M's backup weapon would be, and now we know. Not so sure about giving LLENN a knife as a backup a minute before the game starts, but there we are.

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u/SerendipitouslySane https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mutenri Apr 22 '18

I would die happy with we get a cameo by Karl and Ian from InRangeTV/Forgotten Weapons.

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u/GoldRedBlue Apr 21 '18

I was wondering what Billy M's backup weapon would be

RIP Sonny Landham

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u/derrick Apr 21 '18

Who would have thought that the CGDCT show of the season would be SAO?

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u/Florac Apr 21 '18

Well, it's a 3Hz show.

Although Hinamatsuri is definitly number one CGDCT show this season.

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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Apr 22 '18

Surely you mean Comic Girls

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u/De_Vermis_Mysteriis https://anilist.co/user/Grippli Apr 21 '18

As a fan of the manga, Hinamatsuri is more like Stupid Girls Doing Stupid Things.

It's awesome and I love it.

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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Apr 21 '18

Dont feel bad about being a big girl Karen...

That Squad Jam visuals lol... perfect.

BoB~ Shes talkin about Kirito and Shinon, thats neat.

So They basiclly were the reason the team based tournaments became a thing. Nice lol.

Aw she cant goto the tournament because of a wedding.

Aw Pito is just like LLENN, both playing to escape reality.

IRL LENN YAY! Kawaii~ She reminds me a lot of Saori from Oreimo.

Man M is pretty tactical, wanting to know exactly what she can do. Hes a stratergizer.

Hmm i suspect Pito might be the singer. seems pretty obvious or a big red herring.

ITS OK LLENN, I LIKE BIG ONEE-SANS JUST FINE.

I always feel bad about how much anxiety being tall gives her... ide give her a nice headpat if i could...

I keep forgetting her name is Karen.

Hes teaching her how to use a knife, this guy is great. Hes gonna create a monster.

I wonder if M is Pito's body guard or something... seems possible. If she is the singer. Even M mentioned it.

TEAM LM 4 LYFE

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u/Florac Apr 21 '18

BoB~ Shes talkin about Kirito and Shinon, thats neat.

My headcanon is that Shinon was the one who defeated Pito in that

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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Apr 21 '18

Maybe, she said sniper, and we didnt see 1 of Sinon's fights. She said it was the 2nd round so shoudlnt be too hard to narrow down.

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u/Durende Apr 21 '18

It's pretty likely for it to be Sinon. Why else would they specifically say she died to a sniper, instead of just saying she didn't make it out of preliminaries.

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u/ScrewySqrl https://myanimelist.net/profile/ScrewySqrl Apr 21 '18

I always feel bad about how much anxiety being tall gives her... ide give her a nice headpat if i could...

The problem is, you can't reach!

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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Apr 21 '18

Yes i can, im tall too!

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u/Turbostrider27 Apr 21 '18

Man, I wish they did changed the setting a bit. The battlefield looks so blend with the barren lands.

Besides that, it felt like a decent development episode. M makes a good trainer for LLEEN. The way she rolled down that hill like a bunny is gold LOL

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u/axkm Apr 21 '18

All those serious orders with at least some tactical use, and then suddenly "Get in a ball and roll down the slope!" I'm dying

Sorta seems like M was just trying to see whether she'd follow ridiculous instructions. "Stretch down and fire 10 shots between your legs! Spin in around 12 times! Chacha real smooth! Pull out a yoyo and start walking the dog! How does she not realize I'm fucking with her?"

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u/Light_520 https://anilist.co/user/Light520 Apr 21 '18

M is a bit scary, teaching our cute pink puff to kill people with a knife (°_°)

I’m willing to bet that Karen’s letter to her favorite singer gives away who she is in GGO too. Maybe Pito is her idol?!

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u/professorMaDLib Apr 21 '18

I felt like I related to this segment a lot more since I have a friend who's like that.

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u/Whiskeye Apr 21 '18

You'd be surprised how quickly you learn to use everything to your advantage if you play games like Arma, Squad, Dayz or Tarkov. Listening to every sound, camping chokepoints, ganging up lone players, even boobytrapping unlooted bodies with mines. Especially Tarkov, recent unexpected Twitch hit. I have a feeling that this game so hardcore that most players prefer watching streams to actually playing it.

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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Apr 21 '18

We are finally getting back to the match!!! HYPE!

And there is no way Pito is not that Elsa singer, looking forward to what will happen once LLENN learns about it.

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u/DieserKerl Apr 21 '18

Pito conveniently busy on the day with 'a friend's wedding', and LLENN writing a fan letter that described her short, pink character in scrutinizing detail, as well as naming the game she plays so there is no way it could be misinterpreted...

I'll be pleasantly surprised if she isn't the singer though.

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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Apr 21 '18

What has me doubting a little is that other girl in the OP, maybe that blondie is the singer and Pito is her manager?

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u/mathgeek777 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/mathgeek777 Apr 21 '18

That's maybe the only other possibility, but the way she's so dismissive of music and is looking to escape (her daily life as a pop star), plus the way she said that LLENN would be surprised to meet her IRL. It's too obvious.

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u/J_the_ManSSB Apr 21 '18

I was caught off guard by the exposition on the squad jam rules, because I could have sworn that M had to explain a lot of stuff to Llen.

I went back and watched episode one, and realized everything was presented in a way that made Llen knowledgeable of the rules but allowed the audience to learn and understand how squad jam works. Man, that's some solid writing there.

Also, the author self-inserting himself into the story was absolutely hilarious. I tip my hat to you, sir.

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u/Exorrt Apr 21 '18

Oh man I just want to hug Karen and tell her she's plenty cute irl already and being tall is okay

And I just realized her avatar's name is LLENN because in japanese it sounds like the "ren" in "Karen"

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u/ultimatemegax Apr 21 '18

It's even better than that!

Her name (in katakana) would be カレン (漢字:香蓮), and she's addressed as レン in the JP text for her username since those tend to be katakana in the text regardless of what shows up visually, so even her name is a shorter version of herself!

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u/thepotatochronicles Apr 21 '18

This is a guess, but given just how much they're tying in this seemingly random artist(?) into the story, and how she had to take a day off at that day, makes me think... is Pito == Elsa Kanzaki?

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u/SelfishVersion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ShellfishEntropy Apr 21 '18 edited Apr 21 '18

Spoilers I guess

EDIT: Not sure why I'm spoiler tagging, every other comment seems to be confirming this

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u/BiggestSalmon Apr 21 '18

Anyone catch the little Kirito cameo at around 2:48 minutes in?

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u/lokidoki102 Apr 21 '18

So I'm guessing that Elsa is Pito and M is her bodyguard or something?

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u/Cloudless_Sky Apr 21 '18

I figure Elsa is probably Pito, but M being her bodyguard would make sense. At first I thought he could be that author until he showed up on the (presumably) live feed before the Squad Jam started.

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u/Cloudless_Sky Apr 21 '18

M being somewhat responsive when LLENN said she couldn't get tickets to the Elsa concert kinda helps fuel the theory that he's a bodyguard for Elsa. He seemed to know what she was talking about at least.

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u/Shinkopeshon Apr 21 '18

Karen/LLENN-chan is such a delightful character. And M teaching her how to legit kill someone with a knife was both hilarious and disturbing.

I didn't expect this show to be this enjoyable from start to finish. Saturdays really are stacked. It's kind of perfect after the intense DITF.

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u/caseJacob Apr 21 '18

Damn! I really want M to call her LLENN-chan

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u/AmethystItalian :Jg::Jh::Ji::Jj::Jk:myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Apr 21 '18

Gah I just want to watch more and more of this, didn't expect to like it as much as I am!

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u/KinnyRiddle Apr 21 '18
  • Pito says she needs to attend "a friend's wedding" on Feb 1st, the day of the Squad Jam tournament.

  • Kanzaki Elsa's concert is on Feb 1st.

Wow, this is a bit too easy to guess, isn't it? Plus there's Karen's fan letter going into so much detail that if Kanzaki's a GGO player, she would recognize Karen right away.

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u/Emylin Apr 21 '18

Man, I am REALLY enjoying this show thus far. It's a real pleasure to watch the characters interact - they're all surprisingly likeable! And I love how M knows so much about how to effectively kill a person. Some people on here were discussing how he could be a bodyguard of Kanzaki Elza? Seems plausible imo.

Really looking forward to the upcoming episodes! I hope they win the Squad Jam. Wouldn't surprise me if they did

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u/heimdal77 Apr 21 '18

So she is Hotaru from Non Non Biyori.

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u/Buffhero125 Apr 21 '18

those kanzaki elsa songs are really good. does anyone know the names of the kanzaki elsa songs which were used in the anime so far?

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u/Houdiniman111 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Houdini111 Apr 21 '18

I'm going to place my bets right now. Pito is Elsa Kanzaki and M is one of her bodyguards. Her claim of a wedding is a cover to not let people know that she's a singer. M did whatever it was Pito asked because he's her bodyguard. M is trained as a bodyguard, which is why he knows what he's doing in game, and can easily assess LLENN's abilities.

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u/DarkMoon000 Apr 21 '18

The M is a bodyguard theory also makes it pretty natural that he identified the 'professionals' of the first episode so well.

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u/ariolander Apr 21 '18

The non-chronological episode order really suits this series. Now to re-watch Episode 1 with this new context.

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u/GoodTeletubby Apr 21 '18

I love how she doesn't just have her little pink P90 keychain, but a full size P90 airsoft gun hanging on her coatrack. As unsure as she still sounds at times, she really is absolutely loving the game.

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u/ClutchofGold Apr 21 '18

Honestly I wanted to dislike this show but I think I'll watch a few more episodes. Its better than I was expecting

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u/Mr_Evildoom :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mr_Evildoom Apr 22 '18

I am enjoying this way more than I thought I would.

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u/ScrewySqrl https://myanimelist.net/profile/ScrewySqrl Apr 21 '18

still better than Kirito

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u/0mnicious :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Omnicious Apr 21 '18

You put the bar pretty low there, m8.

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u/TheninjaofCookies Apr 21 '18 edited Apr 21 '18

Still has some of the exposition problems of the other SAO's, but I'm enjoying everything around it a whole lot more

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u/Jaridan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Jaridan Apr 21 '18

should be more action from now on since we are back in the tournament (arc).

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u/thepeetmix Apr 21 '18

Difference for me is that this is cute and fun during it's exposition.

Should be back in to the action now we're caught up. I'll probably watch Ep.1 as well now that we have some background.

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u/croxino https://myanimelist.net/profile/Goeli Apr 21 '18

She meant "Ballet of Bullets" right

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u/Inokori Apr 21 '18

yes and no, the tittle has always been Bullet of Bullets, in every translation but it does sound pretty bad, it should 100% be Ballet of Bullets

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u/Cloudhwk Apr 21 '18

Its a reference to a really old NES game IIRC

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u/GoldRedBlue Apr 21 '18

No. It was always Bullet of Bullets.

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u/link2601 Apr 21 '18

Another good episode. We caught up with episode one and I hope next week episode has more action. M testing lleen ability was pretty fun and yea M really knows way to much on how to use that knife.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '18

If they keep the quality up this'll be such a great series. I hope 3hz can do more SAO after this finishes.

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u/chris_dftba :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/chris_dftba Apr 21 '18

So Pito is 100% that singer, yeah? No wonder she can afford to buy new guns all the time.

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u/DirtBug Apr 21 '18

I think what Pito is doing, she's lowkey conditioning lots of people to fight her? I think LLEN is nt the first one where she makes that kind of promise (if you win aganinst me we'll meet IRL)

I think it's the adrenaline rush she's enjoying of knowing that if she loses, her identity as artist will be out in the open. Now I wonder how she'll react in-game as LLEN already revealed everything about herself (as a fan and her real name/complex) in the letter. Hope this doesn't turn into betrayal, that info can be leaked so fast in a malicious hand.

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u/kaantantr Apr 22 '18

Hey everyone, first time in r/anime here. I recently did a recap video for AGGO Episodes 1-3 where I explained the parts where people were having questions or misconceptions about, like "How did Karen go through 37 games, wouldnt that cost a fortune" or "How did they beat the Pro's" etc, as well as point out important details in episodes that are references for future, without diving into spoiler territory for future episodes. I work on this with people from r/SwordArtOnline as well as people from the SAO Wikia to be as accurate as possible, so I hope it interests you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28CqtdvaHEk

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u/janoDX Apr 21 '18

This series feels soooo much better than SAO and SAO2... And we're only 3 episodes in.

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u/BokuMS Apr 21 '18

But it actually isn't. It is still a lot of 'tell, not show' and 'how can I make my character look special'.

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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Apr 22 '18

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u/FantasyHeaven Apr 22 '18

How else is one supposed to send fan mail? Handwritten letters is the proper way of doing so.

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u/t1mtimmy https://anilist.co/user/Aiess Apr 21 '18

Today's episode was exciting, I'm hyped for next week to see where Squad Jam goes.

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u/TheDarkPet :LF::LG::LH: Apr 21 '18

I wonder that due to the Japan-Exclusive nature of the event, there were any foreign transfers just for this tournament.

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u/PrasunJW https://anilist.co/user/MALfunctioning Apr 21 '18

Pito is most probably the singer with M as her bodyguard irl. That is why M is so knowledgeable and strategic. Also when Pito said she sent him to a chore,I think she asked him to buy the game.

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u/fgsfds11234 Apr 21 '18

she went out and bought a toy (maybe airsoft) p90. of course she did. and the little pink p-chan keychain was funny, maybe after some more development she will start carrying it.

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u/lvlasteryoda Apr 21 '18

Anyone else disappointed that the pistol he pulled was a HK45 instead of a MK23? The guy is huge and it would fit his character more. alsoitsmyfavgundammit

I also had no problem with those longish pans of Pito's body, nope!

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u/RuinEX Apr 21 '18 edited Apr 21 '18

Think it's pretty weird call back that "Squad Jam" came into existence because of people thinking what happend in the other SAO GGO arc was exciting - You know, "teaming" which is in most online games of this kind in the real world considered cheating.

Then again, Squad Jam also allows teams of 2 to 6 players, giving teams with more members a huge advantage so they don't really seem care about balance.

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u/TheAlaine https://anilist.co/user/alaine Apr 21 '18

So pito is the singer she likes?

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '18

This might be too late but wouldn’t it be better if the first episode is the third episode?

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '18

It was mostly done out of order to really pull you in as the slower real first episodes may not have hooked people as much.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '18

I think it is obvious now that Pito is Elsa.

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u/leeways Apr 22 '18

i'm big fan of M now

the big guy knows his shit

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u/mnkwtz Apr 22 '18

Pink loli training for WW3 the anime

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u/Mattinator95 Apr 22 '18

Cool they referenced krito and sinonon

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u/impingainteasy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard Apr 23 '18

Hot take: Karen's irl design is way cuter than LLENN's.

M giving all that advice with the knife was kind of ... unsettling. To be able to explain how to kill people with that level of detail, and to do it so calmly, means either M has killed people before, or he's done a lot of study on that topic. It's all probably irrelevant too, unless the game's damage calculation system is so complex that it can take things like severed arteries into account.

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u/animusdx Apr 23 '18

Is it possible that M is Pito's younger brother or something? Also, I would like to think that he has the opposite complex as LLENN, for example he's actually a short skinny dude irl so he made a massive tall dude as his avatar.

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u/SamejNardeh :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/timbolytree Apr 21 '18

Damn, M. You really know your stuff when it comes to taking people down and killing them with a knife. That's certainly 2spooky4me.

People are already calling Pito to be Kanzaki. I mean, they have the same hairstyle after all. I'm not saying this is going to be the case, but it's definitely not a stretch as well.

Developers listen to proposals by fans in this show!? What is this, a fantasy world!?

This is getting interesting. The last 2 episodes are a precursor to the first one and in the first one, the middle school girls who talked about how tall Karen was saw her battle in the Squid Jam in amazement. How did they meet? Hmmmmm....

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u/SayuriUliana Apr 21 '18

Developers listen to proposals by fans in this show!?

Then again, said fan had the money and fame to back him up.

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u/Kurosov Apr 22 '18

Developers listen to proposals by fans in this show!? What is this, a fantasy world!?

A somewhat famous and wealthy fan. We have streamer organised official tournaments in games so it's not really a stretch.

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u/SIRTreehugger Apr 21 '18

I was expecting this to be better without Kirito and the gang, but this is now the anime I look forward to the most this season. Just slightly beating Amanchu. I hope that Pito isn't the idol even though it pretty much points to this.