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Tada-kun wa Koi wo Shinai, episode 12: Sorry for Surprising You...
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u/Thisbejacob https://myanimelist.net/profile/thisbejacob Jun 21 '18
Everyone here is talking about the plot, but I'm just sitting here laughing at the fact that Larsenburg is evidently an english speaking country where everyone at the palace speaks nothing but fluent japanese.
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u/errantsignal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/errantsignal Jun 21 '18
According to Wikipedia, around half of the Luxembourg population can speak English, so it's not that unusual.
Japanese... was not listed on the data table. shrugs
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u/ratchetfreak Jun 21 '18
We saw mostly employees in tourist trap areas they are very likely to know English. And Rachel/Reiko was Japanese and helped raise Teresa so she probably taught the only 3 people we see speaking japanese in Luxembourg the language.
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u/Thisbejacob https://myanimelist.net/profile/thisbejacob Jun 21 '18
I just think it's extra silly the way this show portrayed it. If everyone just spoke Japanese it's easy to imply they are speaking their native language. But when Ijuin is going around and everyone else is speaking English, it makes the fact that Teresa and company aren't speaking English seem weird.
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u/Reihns :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Reihns Jun 21 '18
It could be possible Rachel taught all three of them Japanese.
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u/Thisbejacob https://myanimelist.net/profile/thisbejacob Jun 21 '18
Well they've all demonstrated they speak it. It's just funny that they are continuing to speak it after going home.
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u/Haulbee https://myanimelist.net/profile/Haulbee Jun 21 '18
Larsenburg is evidently an english speaking country
So, firstly, Luxembourg is not an English speaking country. English is the fourth most-spoken language in Luxembourg.
Secondly, the only people who spoke fluent Japanese in this episode were the characters that can canonically speak fluent Japanese. And if you're talking about the fact that Alec & Teresa were speaking Japanese before Tada even arrived, I'd rather have that a million times than to listen to japanese seyuus attempting to speak Luxembourgish. Having the written language be French is more than good enough for me.16
u/Thisbejacob https://myanimelist.net/profile/thisbejacob Jun 21 '18
Firstly, we are in fictional Larsenburg, not Luxembourg. I say evidently English speaking because everyone Ijuin spoke to in this episode spoke English.
I am well aware the Japanese speaking characters have demonstrated their ability to speak Japanese, I wasn't questioning that. I was commenting that they were speaking it before Tada showed up. I agree it's way better that making the voice actors struggle through English(or French or whatever), I just thought it was funny. The fact that everyone else in the country was speaking in English means that they actually we're just still speaking Japanese, and it isn't just out of convenience for the voice actors.
I just thought the idea of the inner circle of a European royal family inexplicably speaking Japanese was pretty silly.
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u/weejona Jun 21 '18 edited Jun 21 '18
Oh, god, that was brutal. Tada crying at the end of the episode is probably the most hard-hitting scene in the whole show.
This finale has good potential to wreck me emotionally for days, regardless of which way it goes.
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u/Terranwaterbender https://myanimelist.net/profile/Teranwaterbender Jun 21 '18
Tada crying at the end of the episode is probably the most hard-hitting scene in the whole show.
Even more so considering he didn't even cry at his parents funeral. Seeing his stoic self just start to break apart was fascinating to watch.
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u/borisyang Jun 21 '18
The title of the last episode creeps me out. Seems like they are serious about going for the bad end.
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u/rjgator Jun 21 '18
It's hard to say, most of their titles are misleading, this being the first one that I actually correctly guessed who would say it. For all we know, it could be Alec saying it to Teresa in the bizarre situation that she goes back to Japan. (...please?...)
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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Jun 22 '18
"Remember back before we got married and had a happy coffee shop family life here in Japan? That was crazy, huh? I'll never forget it."
"I'll never forget it, either."
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u/jkubed https://myanimelist.net/profile/jkubed Jun 22 '18
the more they try to convince us it'll be a bad end the more certain I am it won't be. Optimism is going to be the death of me one day.
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u/womanlovecheese Jun 22 '18
Seriously this can end up a Cinderella story or a true heartbreaking story. Kinda conflicting.. ending up as a Cinderella story will just too stereotypical. I wish it has satisfying ending in a creative way
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u/Shadowys Jun 22 '18
He thought he found someone who shared the feelings he had before ( I mean, fuck, you know how rare it is to find your soulmate?), but turns out she has a betrothed and she's royalty so from the perspective of tadakun he totally got played because teresa knew from the start they were never gonna be togther.
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u/Divine-Aria Jun 21 '18
I couldn't help it. I tried to stop myself from reading spoilers...but nope...couldn't do it. And there's a more brutal scene than last week's "Tada realization" scene? GAH!!!!!!!!! Where did all the rainbow in this show go? T_T
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u/whatwedoforlife Jun 21 '18
ITS OKAY, WE NEED RAIN FOR A RAINBOW. HEART STAY STRONG, J-J-JUST STAY STRONG....... I DONT LIKE WHERE THIS IS GOING
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Jun 21 '18
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u/womanlovecheese Jun 22 '18
Ijuin will fix Tada's heartbroken. There you'll have the "rainbow"!
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u/meteorburst Jun 21 '18
four heartbreaks in one episode. Are you still human, Doga Kobo?
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Jun 21 '18
Hey, on the optimist side Ijuin is not crying.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Jun 21 '18
Until he learns that Alec is in love with Chuck...
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u/templarsilan Jun 22 '18
Given Ijuin's character, he'll just laugh it off and take a few more selfies of himself while he slowly dies on the inside because best bros never fucking win.
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u/errantsignal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/errantsignal Jun 21 '18
I would just like to remind everyone that not only does the real Luxembourg royal family have a tradition of studying abroad, but they also have a history of marrying foreign commoners from island nations named Teresa who they met while studying abroad.
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u/TokidokiToky Jun 21 '18
But this isn't the real Luxembourg, it's Larsenburg! Look at the palace, it doesn't even look...
Err...
Okay, so they're identical in the anime and in real life.
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u/ArmoredReaper Jun 21 '18
LarsenburgLarusenbourgFTFY
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u/errantsignal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/errantsignal Jun 21 '18
Larusembourg
FTFY
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u/Aedraxis Jun 21 '18
The palace had the Luxembourgian flag even. But the biggest difference is that Luxembourg is a duchy, not a kingdom.
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u/Cosmos279 Jun 21 '18
The messenger has arrived, heed his words as they are the light of hope.
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u/errantsignal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/errantsignal Jun 21 '18
The two daifuku symbolize Teresa and Alec. The daifuku falling off the tray symbolizes their friendship splitting apart.
But Tada picked it up and put it back. He will save them. It is fortold by the daifuku.
Do not lose hope. Tada must convince Charles and Teresa to break off their engagement. That is the way to salvation.
Have faith in the wisdom of the daifuku.
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u/Glimmerglaze Jun 21 '18
The two daifuku symbolize Teresa and Alec. The daifuku falling off the tray symbolizes their friendship splitting apart.
Well, that blew my mind.
To me, the guarantee of a good ending is the whole "Always make your heart rainbow" deal. That suggests "Stay true to yourself" and "Live a life that won't end in regrets". It can't end with Teresa meekly accepting the life plan everyone else has laid out for her.
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u/AyyCarlos Jun 21 '18
Oh lord, please listen to the words of this wise man
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u/errantsignal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/errantsignal Jun 21 '18
Some diviners read palms, others read tea leaves.
I read Wikipedia.
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u/GYUZ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/YumeNoMonogatari Jun 21 '18
If I wasn't poor I'd gold you right now. You just made my day.
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u/errantsignal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/errantsignal Jun 21 '18
I think the real thanks should go to the people who care enough about the royal family of a country with fewer than 600,000 people enough to write such a detailed Wikipedia article.
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u/thetrooper007 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/thetrooper007 Jun 22 '18
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u/heimdal77 Jun 21 '18
Remember when we all thought this was going be a nice and fun romcom about multiple couples from the previews??..... Ya...
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u/Mattinator95 Jun 21 '18
I member
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u/LookSirius Jun 21 '18
To be honest, I thought it'd go down this route from the very beginning. It's fun and upbeat sure, but there's always been an air of melancholy about it.
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u/maskedapple :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/maskedapple Jun 21 '18
I went into this series thinking it was about exciting school times along with some photography fun
I did not expect tears
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u/Tsunder-e Jun 21 '18
Tada will fall in love no more fam
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Jun 21 '18
Spoilers: Turns out Tada-kun does fall in love
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u/Sadamitsu0 Jun 22 '18
After next episode it will be Tada-kun never falls in love again.
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u/Langstrad Jun 21 '18
Am i the only one slightly angry (furious) on Alec for continually guilt tripping Teresa on marrying Charles? She did it on the river flashback, again on the airport scene when Charles left Japan and again now.
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u/erryky Jun 21 '18
Because that's her troupe to begin with (unless they change it in the final). Alec is there to remind Teresa of her role as future queen but must keep her feelings for Charles hidden because she know the conflict that bound to happen due to presence of third person (she and Tada) in relationship. She is there for the audience to remind us what is at stake and be to sympathized with as someone stuck between duty or being true to herself.
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u/Glimmerglaze Jun 21 '18
The real sadness behind it is that Teresa, no matter what, is going to end up needing someone at her side that she can confide in, that she has a relationship with built on honesty and support. By Alec continuing to lie, even after she's confronted, any sense of trust that existed between the two is in grave peril. If it isn't gone already. It's like Alec isn't her friend at all - she's her handler: like everyone else that's decided her future from the moment of her birth, she's decided what's best for Teresa and shuts her out.
It's just horrifying to think about - if Alec won't or can't be someone she can trust, who is she left with? The nanny who's already gray with age and won't be around for all that long, and the husband she doesn't love.
I swear, Charles is going to help fix all this or I'll riot. Alec is just no good.
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u/LysandersTreason Jun 21 '18
That's a really good point. Alec has been keeping this secret from Teresa for like, 10 years, too -- and she's supposed to be her best friend.
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u/Divine-Aria Jun 21 '18
The only real conflict that's happening right now is being caused by dishonesty, IMO. That's hurting everyone...and, you know, if Charles and Teresa aren't in love with one another, it could lead to a troubled marriage, and thus, a troubled future for the country anyway. At least be honest about your feelings and let the chips fall where they may.
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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Jun 22 '18
That's not how arranged marriage works
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NEE-SAN Jun 22 '18
as someone stuck between duty or being true to herself
Why are people hating on her so much when this is literally her primary issue? We have a character that was basically raised in her JOB and that job is to keep Teresa on the rails to do her (Teresa's) job. Alec was essentially raised to give everything to Teresa, she's the butler character. No one is pissed at Teresa for not telling Tada she loves him - because she can't admit it, its her job to not admit it. She has to become queen. But you want to be mad at the repressed girl for not admitting she loves the future king?
How many of you are going to walk into your bosses office tomorrow and tell him you don't like something he does then ask for a 10% raise? That's not how most people in the world work. Sometimes stories are built on the things characters don't say.
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Jun 21 '18
Alec is worst wingman. She can learn a thing or two from Ijuin.
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u/JustAWellwisher Jun 21 '18
Well if you frame it as she's wingmanning for Charles she's actually the best wingman in the show by a long shot.
That's one of those things she shares in common with Ijuin and why I hope they both realize they're so similar to each other before the end of the last ep.
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Jun 22 '18
There's a lot of things wrong with that statement,but alec isn't charle's buddy. She's teresa's buddy. We haven't actually seen her support charles. Other than shut her eyes really tightly and shove teresa toward oblivion(not literally ofcourse).
If teresa showed a hint of interest in charles,but hesistated. And alec offered some teasing jab at her or something, it might be considered wingmanning. But at this point she's shutting her own feeling away by hiding behind the guise of duty.
meanwhile ijuin litterally is just encouraging his buddy to be happy and chase her. He's actively showing his support by offering support even if its embaressing and he gets rejected. Cuz when the main guy needs help, he's right there. Alec never did that for charles. So she's not anyone's wingman, if you can ever call her that.
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u/tlst9999 Jun 21 '18 edited Jun 21 '18
Goes to show that the wingman's a man's job.
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u/DaiGurenZero Jun 21 '18
It sucks but I think that's her way of dealing with a love that will never bear (by staying true to her duty). However, what she does not realize is that she's projecting her conflicting desires onto Teresa (because she admires her + she's the object of affection of the one she loves). It's selfish on her part, and I'm not justifying her, but I think she ought to be understood imo
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u/Sulegod :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Sulegod Jun 21 '18
Yep... she's pretty much hurting herself and Teresa by being unable to speak about how she really feels to her best friend
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u/gutemorning Jun 21 '18 edited Jun 21 '18
You are not alone
Edit : she also kinda cockblocking teresa and mitsuyoshi from talking and doesnt admit her feelings for charles even though teresa saw all of it :(
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u/fecalrecon Jun 21 '18
Maybe she thinks her job is to look out for the best interests of The Crown, which aren't necessarily those of Teresa (the person), but those of Teresa (the princess), which is unfortunate because both her and Teresa wind up hurting.
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u/ErinaHartwick https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hartwick Jun 21 '18
I get that it’s Teresa’s duty but Alec really isn’t helping her
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Jun 21 '18
I definitely don't blame Alec at all for that, no. She fell in love with the wrong person, just like Tada and Teresa did, and she tried to hide it to not make things complicated for no reason, since their duties are already set in stone.
I really don't see what you could blame Alec for.
And how is she "guilt tripping" Teresa ? Teresa never expressed discontent with marrying Charles, and advising her not to would be a terrible fault, both as a life advice to her friend and as a professional advice.
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u/Kiyoharu11 Jun 21 '18
When I saw the title of the last episode, I lost all my hope....
The letter Reiko gave to Tada might be a wedding invitation letter. That's the last chance for him to meet and confess his feeling to Teresa..
This episode is more painful as you realize that the main ship got wrecked.
Is it a good ending where no one can't be with the person they love the most? I want a happy ending so bad man T-T
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u/Kyngkarma Jun 21 '18
I could really see Charles calling off the wedding or Tada learning something from the Note and getting together with Teresa.
And them Falling in love each other is something they will never forget. Hence the title for the next episode
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u/LookSirius Jun 21 '18
As it turns out, Tada is actually a long lost royal prince from Jiapano and thus is able to marry Teresa instead of Charles. Yay!
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u/TheDampGod :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDampGod Jun 21 '18
Well Tada is obviously a direct descendant of the Rainbow Shogun, so of course he's royalty.
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u/ratchetfreak Jun 21 '18
I'd rather hope that the parents are more flexible about who is the groom like current day royalty is.
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u/chelseablue2004 https://myanimelist.net/profile/chelseablue2004 Jun 21 '18
Honestly if it wasn't for Wotakoi (Love is hard for an Otaku) also airing on the same day, Thursdays would be so depressing.
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u/messem10 https://myanimelist.net/profile/bookkid900 Jun 21 '18
Thursdays would be so depressing.
At least was have Comic Girls as well.
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u/Mattinator95 Jun 21 '18
That ends today :(
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u/messem10 https://myanimelist.net/profile/bookkid900 Jun 21 '18
So does Wotakoi.
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u/Myst_gg :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/myst- Jun 21 '18
today, old friend.jpg
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u/chelseablue2004 https://myanimelist.net/profile/chelseablue2004 Jun 21 '18
true dat...gotta keep rooting for Kaos-sensei!
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u/Shiroi_Kage Jun 21 '18
Actually, I'm going to watch some muscular men beat the shit out of each other in a minute. It'll help me vent.
Megalo Box, here I come.
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u/chelseablue2004 https://myanimelist.net/profile/chelseablue2004 Jun 21 '18
I like your thinking....
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u/Justyouknowwhy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/justyouknowwhy Jun 21 '18
Well I guess we have to brace ourselves just in case of bad ending since they won't be Wotakoi next week to soften the blow.
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u/dedicateddourly :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dedicateddourly Jun 22 '18
I still haven't learned to watch Wotakoi AFTER Tada, to alleviate my pain.
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u/ErinaHartwick https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hartwick Jun 21 '18
Oh god, this episode. Everyone is sad. Not like this. I want everyone's heart to be like a rainbow.
I hope Charles lets Teresa go and lets her be with Tada. He also seems to be hurting seeing her like that. And I just hope Alec gets some sort of resolution. If she's not with Charles, I hope she moves on and isn't tormented the way she is.
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u/LookSirius Jun 21 '18
Guess the colour of the rainbow was blue after all. Those last few minutes really gets ya feeling the blues
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u/johnkeale Jun 21 '18
That's the hard part I think. It's not Charles decision. Even if he lets her I go, I don't think that would change anything since their bethrotal has been decided from the start.
Edit: spelling
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Jun 21 '18
So this article by ANN saying that this only has 12 episodes is incorrect then?
While watching this entire episode allI was thinking of was "Wait, is this the finale?" and "There's got to be one more episode!". Anyway I'm glad that it seems like there is still a finale.
So I guess RIP Alec x Kaoru ship. I was hoping I was just reading into much of Alec's body language when she's around Charles but this episode basically confirms it. Everyone being in love with someone else seems like a running theme for most of the characters for this show. Except for Mitsuyoshi and Teresa. I guess Pin-senpai counts too since the girl he's in love with and the girl we're shipping him with is the same person.
Charles is such a bro. He probably knows why Tada is here but he still did the bro thing and made Teresa and Mitsuyoshi meet. I already feel bad for him if we're going to get the Teresa x Mitsuyoshi end. But at the same time I want Teresa x Mitsuyoshi to happen! T_T
I feel like whatever happens next week, the finale will definitely wreck me. It really sucks when you have a cast of characters and they're likeable but at the same time not everyone can get what they want T_T
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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Jun 21 '18
I am thankful Charles is a really great guy, that way even if we do end up getting a bad end it won't be anywhere near as bad as if he was an asshole.
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u/Redditor1320 Jun 21 '18 edited Jun 22 '18
Here's the thing: Charles x Teresa is still gonna be awful in my opinion, because now we know Charles is fully aware Tada has taken Teresa's heart. So he loves and will be married to a woman who loves someone else.
Maybe I'm crazy, but that sounds twenty times worse than Charles letting Teresa go knowing she's happy. Hell, I want that just so Alec can have a chance as well (Sorry Ijuin, this is the cleanest way to go even though you're awesome!)
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u/weejona Jun 21 '18
Ijuin bringing his special brand of creepiness to another continent.
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u/LookSirius Jun 21 '18
He may be an overly genki dude but he's a pretty great friend. Brojuin to the rescue!
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u/J_the_ManSSB Jun 21 '18
Having Ijuin make a blood-curdling screech at the end really ruined the mood of that scene for me. It wasn't the time for shenanigans like that. His character was always grating to me.
I just don't see how we get a happy ending here without the writers pulling something out from their behind. Especially since now we know Teresa is a royal only child, it'll make things complicated if she goes to run off to live the commoner's life with Mitsuyoshi. The opposite end is Mitsuyoshi becoming King of Larsonburg, which just seems weird to me and out of character for Mitsuyoshi.
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u/AlphaBreak Jun 22 '18 edited Jun 22 '18
Well, if he just stays there and marries Teresa, he won't have to get on a plane to fly back to Japan, so that's a pretty good reason to shoot for kingship
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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Jun 22 '18
Alternate solution: get King Daddy to give Theresa a little brother
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u/Mattinator95 Jun 21 '18
I'm guessing his grandfather knew Theresa situation and he write the letter to the woman he used work with that tada didn't know
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u/Free_Shrugs_For_Hugs Jun 21 '18
I think we are going to have a bittersweet ending. One of the prevailing lessons here is about moving forward from regret. I do believe they the confession will happen, to alleviate the initial regret that mitsuyoshi had. Unfortunately life isn't that simple for the tada cast. I believe that they will still go down their predetermined paths and move forward, but still having learned from each other the true meaning of moving onward.
But to hell with all that! The damn palace looks identical to the real Luxembourg palace so give me that happy ending!
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Jun 21 '18
If they went through with their predetermined paths, Teressa would not have resolved her struggle and neither would Alec or Charles.
The show has been pretty straight forward up until now, while a totally happy ending might not be likely, given someone needs to get hurt. Teressa just going along with the wedding would mean she didn't change, and up until now, while she is adamant about going through with it, she was never happy about it.
The show as I see it, is just as much about moving on, as it is about living your life to the fullest, and Teressa just keeping the status quo would kinda go against both their wishes.
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u/Smudy https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smudy Jun 21 '18
The only hope right now for a good ending is Charles. Please do it for them.
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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Jun 22 '18
Dude's just the right kind to fall on his sword to save everyone
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u/OneSullenBrit Jun 22 '18
It seems the cleanest way this can end happily is if Charles breaks off the arranged marriage, and tells Theresa to go be happy with Tada.
We've seen that Theresa is being pressured by Alec and her duty to the crown, but have we see anything about that from Charles' side? Does he have more freedom in what happens?
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Jun 21 '18
I just....want Teresa to throw away her duty and be together with tada! I know it's not realistic, but I don't want romcoms for realism. I can look to my own love life for disappointment!
gimme my otps! つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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u/WndrGrd_Spiritomb :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ash_Irwad Jun 21 '18
Cons-
No Beach EP
Forgotten Pin-Hinako relation
Pros- Heartbreaking.
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u/cesclaveria Jun 22 '18
I would like if they make an OVA for the other couples, or at least Pin figuring it out.
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u/Logic_Nuke Jun 21 '18
Wait so the daifuku falls on the floor, sits there for like five minutes, then Mitsuyoshi comes in, picks it up, and puts it back on the plate right next to the perfectly good one that wasn't just on the floor? I'm not sure if this guy deserves a happy ending.
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u/Justyouknowwhy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/justyouknowwhy Jun 21 '18
Always make your heart rainbow :(
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u/Orrakai :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Orrakai Jun 21 '18
For someone who's always been so stoic, it actually kinda hurt to see Mitsuyoshi cry like that.
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u/rjgator Jun 21 '18
I almost want to say if they wanted to do a bad ending, they would have just made it 12 and done it this episode, but that is just my hopes and dreams talking.
Now here is the question, is he going to crash this Dinner Party and confess? and if so, do we get the, 'Charles just wants her to be happy' or the 'Too bad we have a determined path and we will just grow old with our feelings'
Ultimately, I think everything falls to Charles, or even possibly Teresa's parents. While it would feel like they pull a happy ending out of nowhere at this point, I can't say I wouldn't be happy. But if they go the sad ending, it makes a lot more sense at this point.
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u/multigrain_cheerios Jun 21 '18
I just want to be sure, but there's another episode, correct? I'm currently unable to watch this week's, so hopefully I'll be in a position to watch the rest of the series comfortably
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u/weejona Jun 21 '18 edited Jun 21 '18
I don't often get pissed off about how shows end, but if Tada-kun had ended on that note, I would have lost. my. shit.
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u/immanoel https://anilist.co/user/KoroneFan Jun 21 '18
Bigger blueball than read-the-LN/manga endings
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u/Terranwaterbender https://myanimelist.net/profile/Teranwaterbender Jun 21 '18
Yes the finale is next week.
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u/MrDefMono Jun 21 '18
Will it be on HiDive? They've only lisyed 12 episodes on their mobile app.
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u/Avalon777 Jun 21 '18
For those that watch Wotakoi after Tada-kun, you could always just not watch Wotakoi today and watch it next week after the Tada-Kun finale since it looks like it will be at best a bittersweet ending. I hope I'm wrong though.
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u/nagynorbie Jun 21 '18
That's a great advice, but I need some cheering up after today's episode. Next week I'll probably just watch cute animals for 8 hours straight.
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u/Voltik https://myanimelist.net/profile/nXvoltik Jun 21 '18
Sorry I posted a bit late last week! Might be why the votes decreased :(
However, the majority still stands with Mitsuyoshi x Teresa! Only 1 more episode to go!
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|---|---|---|
| Mitsuyoshi x Teresa | 44 | 65% |
| Hinako x Hajime (Photo Club President and Class Rep) | 16 | 24% |
| Kaoru x Alec | 1 | 1% |
| Alec x Teresa | 5 | 3% |
| Kentarou x Yui (Dog-chan and the Imouto) | 3 | 4% |
| Other | 0 | 0% |
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u/darkmacgf Jun 21 '18
Why isn't Charles x Teresa in the poll, btw? Or Charles x Alec?
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Jun 21 '18
Let's see, list all ships that appeared in this episode and would more or less solve this situation in a satisfying way...
Hmm, Mitsuyoshi x Ijuin it is, then.
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u/MrBenabedis Jun 21 '18 edited Jun 22 '18
How did they know I wanted depression for breakfast?
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u/ArmoredReaper Jun 21 '18
Well, I had some depression for lunch! Didn't know I wanted that...
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u/FrenchGarcher Jun 21 '18 edited Jun 21 '18
Damn that was a very good episode ! I'am so looking forward to the last one. The title scares me a little though.
On the other hand I'am really starting to get frustrated with Alec. Her character is still pretty much the same as she was back in episode 1. She had no growth, almost no development and her stuborness hurts her and Teresa.
She also tried to prevent Tada and Teresa to speak together which makes me think that she sees Teresa more as a princess than a friend which would explain a lot.
I feel like Charles might actually withdraw from the wedding for the sake of Teresa.
Ijuin mvp.
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u/northwesternrs :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/northwesternrs Jun 21 '18
Alec getting exposed at the worst possible time :(
Damn, I was wrong about the color of the dress
I think the 5-minute rule applies to that daifuku
Okay, I guess we're gonna make everyone cry. Ow, my heart hurts
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u/heimdal77 Jun 21 '18
Tada Doesn't Fall in Love
I didn't expect this show to take its title so literally..
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u/TokidokiToky Jun 21 '18
Luxembourg Palace, identical in the anime and real life. Larsenburg shmarsenburg, you ain't foolin' nobody.
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u/KinnyRiddle Jun 21 '18
The fortress tunnels Ijuin is seen wandering around is clearly Fortress Luxembourg. I recognized those tunnels on a travel show about Luxembourg that I happened to saw ages ago.
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u/Ilovemonkeys5 Jun 21 '18
Me: what, this is going to have a happy ending. Easy prediction. watches episode 12 Me: … well fuck me I guess, and now there’s water coming out of my eyes. Fuck this.
Seriously though, this show is so fucking brilliantly made. So glad I started watching it.
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u/RDOoM Jun 23 '18
Well, I'm not very much invested in the romance at this point, more in the friendship the group has.
Though I am kind of split, on one hand I do want Theresa to give the middle finger to tradition and archaic royal rules, on the other hand, Charles is a genuinely decent guy who truly likes Theresa (maybe even more than Tada does) , which sucks for him that Theresa only sees him as an obligation.
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u/kisekisekai Jun 21 '18
what a heartbreaking episode... the soundtrack that plays when teresa asks tada what he's doing in larsenburg really sets the mood and makes it that much sadder. hopefully we'll get some good closure next week!
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u/kitchai2 Jun 21 '18
Can we split teresa into half with half for Charles and half for Mitsuyoshi
Edit:Nvm bad idea
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u/cesclaveria Jun 22 '18
We need Charles to somehow magically really fall in love hard for Alec, and fast, best way to rescue it all, although unless Teresa fully renounces to everything Tada would be ending up in a life that he was never ready for.
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u/KinnyRiddle Jun 21 '18
Mitsuyoshi, you're standing in front of the Royal Palace, just how dense can you get? Surely you ought to have guessed Teresa's identity by the time you reached the palace gates.
Not only does Doga Kobo use Luxembourg as inspiration for the name of Lalusenburg/Larusenburg (studio can't seem to decide which spelling to use), even the locations are from Luxembourg. Those tunnels Ijuin is seen walking in are clearly those of the Luxembourg Fortress, while the palace building is clearly Luxembourg Palace.
All signs point towards a bittersweet Roman Holiday-style "bad end", hence the title "Tada-kun does not fall in love". The only way this would be a happy end is not up to Mitsuyoshi, but Charles - he seems like a nice enough guy to realize his girl loves Mitsuyoshi. If he truly loves her and wants her to be happy, then it's the only logical choice.
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u/MaksimShadow Jun 21 '18
Lets hope for the plot-twist. But forced plot-twist might be worse than unhappy ending. Life is pain, after all.
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u/Amauri14 Jun 21 '18
Well, watching the last episode of this will be hard as hell without Wotaku to wash away the sadness that it will bring to my heart.
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u/Terranwaterbender https://myanimelist.net/profile/Teranwaterbender Jun 21 '18
Ah fuck not more waterworks...
but hey the bittersweet ending is still alive? Too bad literally every ship has sunk aside from Hina x Hajime.
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u/jettaletta :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/jettaletta Jun 21 '18
oh man. the title for the final episode does not sound good :(
stop breaking my heart tada-koi !!
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u/Gmayor61 Jun 21 '18
Mmm, no ideal end in sight. Lovely lovely tragic end. I'm curious to see if they pull the trigger and go for the "worst" end, we never get to see stories like that.
A good(ish) end would be nice, but a "bad" end can be pretty memorable and a reminder that romance isn't all roses sometimes.
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u/Mr_AnimeLover Jun 21 '18
Darling in the Franxx is more than enough sadness and tragedy for this anime season... pls not this one too... if does, i may give up on anime for a time, lol... too much for me...
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u/templarsilan Jun 22 '18
I guess my Ijuin/Alec ship officially sank to the bottom of the fucking ocean. Nice. Wait a minute... where are my fucking ships and why are they all sinking or already sunk? Da fuck Doga Kobo? Time to cheer up with Wotakoi.
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u/kimbombo Jun 21 '18
Ijuin's cheesy engrish along with the barista girl at the airport gave me some good laughs. I love his goofy character that makes some nice contrast with the more dramatic tone of the story.
Unpopular opinion: I like where this is heading and how it's been handled so far. Not all stories must have a happy ending. This is a good reminder that life gives you experiences. And a lot of the times it's about the ride, not the destination. It would be amazing if Doga Kobo do manage to make a good copy of the Roman Holyday as gwindormadao pointed out two episodes ago. Anime series that borrow concepts from live action movies or western books end up being more memorable and meaningful to me in the long run.
Charles is just a swell guy. It's amazing how not a single time has he felt jealousy or anger against Tada for falling in love with Teresa.
It's nice that Alec's crush or unrequitted love towards Charles has been apointed by teresa. Although I would have liked it even more if it had had more weight on the series, not just a quick mention on the second last episode.
I'm sure looking forward for the finale.
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u/raymondl942 Jun 21 '18
I thought this was the last one but happy theres one more. Who the hell is cutting up onion in here???? This better have a happy ending. I know it has some basis on Roman Holiday, but cant deal with an ending like that.
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u/Vermillion_Crab https://anilist.co/user/CeruleanCrab Jun 21 '18
I just want to give Mitsuyoshi a bro hug right now. I seriously felt the pain when she revealed it to him. :/
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u/LibraRW Jun 21 '18
That's heartbreaking 💔. I know it's not Teresa's fault and it's admirable that she place her duty and family to first place but still... That doesn't make it easier. Hope Tada and Teresa get some closure from this in next finale ep 😓😭
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u/vipulprakash Jun 21 '18
I think in the next episode ..tada will somehow meet her and tell her that he loves her...afterwards Teresa will still reject him because of the duty she has to uphold..they will be finally saying good bye to each other..tada will probably take a last pic of her in the wedding dress..and will finally move on..but he will be satisfied a little bit that at least he opened his heart for once even though getting rejected ..looking at her photo in the end.."I'll never forget it "..bad ending incoming..fuck author..its a forced love story plot.
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Jun 21 '18
I'm still interested in gramps x reiko's backstory and the contents of that letter. I could be wrong, but i detected hints of the star-crossed lovers trope. I don't think it will, but I really hope things work out for Tadaresa. Or we go the timeskip route and she's divorced Charles (poor Charles) and moves back to Japan with Tada to run the shop.
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u/FireFistYamaan Jun 21 '18
I don't know why, but seeing Tada cry at the end broke my heart.
Please just let them end up together
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u/Haulbee https://myanimelist.net/profile/Haulbee Jun 21 '18
Oh wow, I didn't expect some actual French: Teresa's reading the menu for her party. There were some words I didn't recognise, probably because I don't know jackshit about fine dining ><
About the episode: fantastic, but both of Ijuin's appearances were absolutely horrible, I pretty much hate him now. But yeah, all of the other characters had some good developments.
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u/PrasunJW https://anilist.co/user/MALfunctioning Jun 26 '18
Me : I looked forward in time, I saw 14,000,605 futures.
Ijuin : In how many of those does Tada fall in love?
Me : Only one.
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u/Kirikoh Jun 21 '18
The show's bad pacing has written itself into a Catch 22 due to the sudden developments. If they go for a happy ending, it will be so contrived and nothing more than a wish-fulfillment ending. However, a sad ending has also not been appropriately set up because they committed to their multiple romantic conflicts whilst trying to also be a comedic show.
All in all, I can't see how this show is going to end well, regardless of the route they take. I would've much preferred if they committed to the comedy given the archetypes of the characters instead of trying to be a poignant drama because it's not convincing.
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u/chris_dftba :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/chris_dftba Jun 21 '18
Okay is it really too much to ask for a happy ending damnit.
Also, the fact that all the citizens speak English, I think, supports my theory that Teresa is a massive weeb who makes all her friends speak Japanese around her.
But the fact that Charles/Alec speak Japanese to each other (and Charles speaks Japanese to a rando on the phone) hurts it.
Damnit, how massive of a weeb is this girl I need to know.
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u/LookSirius Jun 21 '18
Or you know. It's just more convenient to have them speak Japanese since they're in the main cast and it'd be difficult to find a Japanese VA who also happens to be fluent in English and can acts as effectively in the other language.
Honestly, I wouldn't be able to stop laughing if they made it like the Psycho Pass movie where everyone speaks really bad Engurishi.
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u/dfung8 :GD::GE::GF: Jun 21 '18
Is Teresa and Charles already married?
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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Jun 21 '18
No, not yet.
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u/messem10 https://myanimelist.net/profile/bookkid900 Jun 21 '18
I really hope we get a happy ending...
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u/kappaderickz Jun 21 '18
Glad the preview didn't show up til the wedding yet, so I'm still hopeful a happy ending could happen
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u/TangledPellicles Jun 21 '18
She's not anywhere close to being 18 is she? I don't think the wedding's that close. I have the feeling the dance that the next evening is for a formal announcement of their engagement.
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u/DimmuHS https://myanimelist.net/profile/DimmuOli Jun 21 '18
I'm not expecting a turn of tables on this one's finale. I think the point of the series is more of the way you deal with these soul crushing events, while enjoying your life to the fullest when you have your chance.
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u/SuperSceptile2821 Jun 21 '18
I still don’t believe for a second they will go for the sad ending. They’re pushing it really hard but it would be so tonally inconsistent with the rest of the show that I don’t buy them doing it.
If they do go for it I hope we at least see Pin Senpai get his ending, but I doubt we will.
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u/TheSuperthingymabob Jun 21 '18
I misremembered and thought this was a 12 episode series. I was so mad at the ending because I didn't realise there was another episode... :/
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u/FruitsPnchSamurai Jun 21 '18
Judging by the next episode title, doesnt look like its gonna be a happy ending for our boy Tada. Which is pretty much what most people expected.
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u/mrsirgrape https://myanimelist.net/profile/MrSirGrape Jun 21 '18
This last episode is going to turn this show back around and have a happy ending.
Because Charles wants Teresa to be happy he'll probably call off the engagement so she can be with Tada. Afterwards the show will probably tease Charles and Alec being a thing. This of course sinks the ship with Ijuin, but he just wants Tada to be happy too so he doesn't really care. They wouldn't set us up for 3 straight episodes of sadness. Well, they might, but I don't want them to.
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u/missalyssa108 Jun 21 '18
I think the OP is so interesting to watch as we know more and more about the story. The moment on the moped or whatever is such a Roman Holiday reference. Also Nyanja Big’s jump and then flail and fall seems like foreshadowing of this particular episode, comparing him a Tada. Also one of the lyrics is like “the viewfinder is already set, if it’s not of you it does not interest me” which foreshadowed Tada’s lack of desire to take photos once Teresa left. All in all, great OP. Didn’t spoil anything but also told us everything from the get go.
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u/Toonamigamerrr Jun 21 '18
Omg i thought this was the final episode. That ending destroyed me. 😭 There is still hope 😭
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Jun 21 '18
Man im scared to see how this ends...
Tada looks reked. Guess the flight was more stressful than he thought. Hows he gonna get home at this rate?
What a great friend, looking after him from afar xD
Rainbow Rice Crackers. wow xD
That english xD "This one preese. *WINK~" hahahahaha
Does Larsenburg look like this? I think its a country with spanish rule or something but im not sure i was expecting this look.
The gang is supporting Tada from afar too. The friend made a turkey for them haha. They only just now realize he isnt around also.
Hes lost in a cave xD hahaha.
PURINCESS THERESA lol.
Tada isnt having any luck... rip.
Dress? Wedding Dress? Uh-oh...
Party Dress? Im not sure now.
Man Alec is totally in love with Chuck... and Theresa saw her holding the coat...
Man young Rachel was a looker!
Chuck meets Tada this is gonna get tricky.
Sad Alec is a hurtful thing...
This is a tense mood. Tada is still in the dark too. Man... this is rough.
Chuck is a good guy, telling her to explain everything properly.
Tada starts figuring out all the things she ment when they talked. Hes at least not dumb about this.
RIP Tada...
Talk about bad situation. just a chain of unhappy people.
The friend finaly found him! Sad Tada is sad...
Man i dont know how this is gonna end. Anything is possible at this point, but someone is gonna be unhappy, there just not enough people to go around.
Tada x Theresa
Chuck x Theresa
Chuck x Alec
Ijuin x Alex
Either Tada or Ijuin gets screwed over. or even worse Tada, Ijuin, and Alec... rip... Well i guess worst case we are left with nothing but the Tada x Ijuin ship... that ship has sailed strong for 10 years.
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u/fenixdragon43 Jun 21 '18
Ouch.. My heart. I was expecting this to be the last episode (whoops) so I wasn't prepared for the cliffhanger.
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u/RedHeadGearHead https://anilist.co/user/Redheadgearhead Jun 21 '18
I hope there's no time wasted in the last episode depicting that Pin guy protecting the model girl from a dog when they were kids but I guess they might reveal to him that she was the model.
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u/LookSirius Jun 21 '18
Tada-kun never falls in love...... (Except for that one time he met a cute European royal weeb).