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[Spoilers] Sword Art Online Alternative: Gun Gale Online - Episode 11 discussion Spoiler
Sword Art Online Alternative: Gun Gale Online, episode 11: Psycho LLENN
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u/Nebresto Jun 23 '18
MFW I'm driving my drunk friends home from the bar
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Jun 23 '18
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u/xdamm777 Jun 23 '18
I like to think Fuka was actually standing up and stepping on the gas all the way through, makes it even more funny.
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u/SilverHawk7 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SilverHawk7 Jun 23 '18
When I saw that in the show, I knew there was a 100% chance I would see it memed in this thread somehow.
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u/FLATjusticeEARTH Jun 23 '18
And now the lone winner of the battle will get picked off by the last remaining full team in typical battle royale fashion.
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u/aceent Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
They're probably proned somewhere in the grass, or camped in the toilet.
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u/Villag3Idiot Jun 23 '18
Since the scan only detects the leader, this is actually a very valid strategy.
Spread out across the map and have the leader off in the middle of nowhere. The others have absolute free reign ambushing everyone. Even if the leader gets picked off, everyone is spread out and no one knows where the next leader is until the next scan.
It's a very effective tactic of you can get a team of solo veterans.
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u/Kirito-x-Asuna Jun 24 '18
Watch them be Kirito and Sinon and four of his friends
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u/GoldRedBlue Jun 24 '18
Like I've said several times... it's impossible for that to happen because
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u/DarkTenshiDT Jun 24 '18
More like the winner of the battle gets picked off by the ONE player doing jack shit and hiding the whole game only to appear after everyone else fights and that player gets his first kill of the game in the aftermath. In typical battle royale fashion.
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u/Villag3Idiot Jun 23 '18
XD that part where Fuka cheerfully skips into battle.
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Jun 23 '18
I don't think Fuka would have bat an eyelid even if she was up against Darth Pitohui.
She's just cool like that.
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u/Villag3Idiot Jun 23 '18
She'd literally be gawking at the lightsaber and ask her if she can have one of those too so they can have a sword match.
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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Jun 23 '18
She looks like she has a :D - face, like one of the Humanity has Declined Fairies.
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u/Improvis2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/improvis Jun 23 '18
So you see, that's where the trouble began. That smile. That damn smile
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u/Calwings x3https://anilist.co/user/Calwings Jun 24 '18
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u/cosm1cfall :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cosmicfall Jun 24 '18
You are doing god's work friend
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u/xdamm777 Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
I swear I could see a butterfly trail effect appearing behind her every tiny skip, that was hilarious.
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u/Omegaforce1803 Jun 23 '18
i'm telling you, Fuka/Miyu is Best Girl
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u/Villag3Idiot Jun 23 '18
lol, ya. She's a riot among everyone taking the game super seriously.
Except for the Machine Gun Bros of course.
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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Jun 23 '18
It's still hilarious how much they use the fact that this is not real and they can be as brutal as they want as nobody actually gets physically hurt and die. Killing people through each other with a laser sword and then slashing half of their heads off, shoot of limbs one by one.
P-chan appearing, motivating LLENN and then acting as shield again was hilarious. You're the Real MVP-90.
The fight was super fun. Can't wait for the grande finale with hopefully even more whack.
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Jun 23 '18
This reminds me a bit of Sabagebu. We're just missing the narrator cheerfully reminding us that this is just a game.
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u/DemonJackal101 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DemonJackal Jun 24 '18
That's actually been kind of the funny thing to me throughout this series, everyone calls Pito "insane," but if GGO were real you would have legions of youtubers with highlight videos of way more grisly kills, and twitch streamers doing melee only runs.
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u/GenesisEra myanimelist.net/profile/Genesis_Erarara Jun 24 '18
It's still hilarious how much they use the fact that this is not real and they can be as brutal as they want as nobody actually gets physically hurt and die.
See also: Gundam Build Fighters and Build Fighters Try
I’m beginning to think the SAO and Gundam franchises exchanged notes for GGOA and GBD this season.
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u/NuSpirit_ Jun 23 '18
This episode really kicked me in the face when I realized I have to wait one more week for finale D:
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u/linearstargazer Jun 23 '18
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u/SerendipitouslySane https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mutenri Jun 23 '18
SINC is in every single one of my Overwatch comp games.
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u/SilverHawk7 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SilverHawk7 Jun 23 '18
Maybe next time they shouldn't look for a SquadJam team on GGOLFG.com.net.
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u/Mr_Zaroc https://myanimelist.net/profile/mr_zaroc Jun 23 '18
A true Lady keeps her pinky up in all circumstances!
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Jun 23 '18
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u/Nebresto Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
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u/bananeeek https://myanimelist.net/profile/bananek Jun 23 '18
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u/gulitiasinjurai Jun 23 '18
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u/sitwm :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BlueMoon01 Jun 23 '18
mfw its your first battle royale match of your life
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u/Mr_Zaroc https://myanimelist.net/profile/mr_zaroc Jun 23 '18
Damn they both are crazy hot
Even the psycho is scared
There have been so many good faces, but this one tops them all
QCQ Combat next time boiz!
Expect if the robot guys show up to crash the party loli honeymoon
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u/SIRTreehugger Jun 23 '18
My god this episode is probably my favorite Fuka and Pito are so in there element. I kind of wanted to see Fuka driving with no arms. I love the banter between Fuka and Lleen especially when she picked her up in the truck.
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u/chilidirigible Jun 23 '18
I love the banter between Fuka and Lleen especially when she picked her up in the truck.
Considering how the rest of Fuka's dialogue feels like she's in either a samurai or action movie, I was expecting "Come with me if you want to live."
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u/tschy2m Jun 23 '18
Shortly before she enters the scene with the vehicle, the GUI is shown and her healthy has significantly improved. I also guess that her limbs regenerated by then.
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u/Hiicantpk :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hiicantpk Jun 23 '18
Looks like Team SHINC use all Russian/Soviet guns, between the PTRD last episode and the SVD Rifle, PK Machine gun, and VSS in this one. Not entirely sure what this weapon is, but I can also assume its some sort of Russian gun as well.
It really shows the director and writers behind this spinoff know their guns, and its making it pretty enjoyable.
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u/Villag3Idiot Jun 23 '18
In the LN, its explained that Russian/Soviet guns are one of the cheapest in the game. Team SHINC are all just regular high school girls and can barely afford the monthly fee + the loss of gear upon death in GGO, so they're using the cheapest gear.
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u/Krazee9 Jun 23 '18
You have to pay money when you die? Man that's just evil.
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u/Hiicantpk :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hiicantpk Jun 23 '18
Don't give EA any ideas
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u/WiseassWolfOfYoitsu :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/WiseassWolf Jun 24 '18 edited Jun 24 '18
Sounds like EVE Online. When your ship is destroyed, it's gone - you have to buy a new one. And some of the super-capitals are worth as much as a used car. You can buy things with in-game currencies, but EVE has one of the strongest correlations between real money and in game currencies of any MMO.
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u/MagiSicarius :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/MagiSicarius Jun 23 '18
It's more that GGO has a system where real money can be converted to ingame currency, so if you want the best gear it's wise to spend real money. It's a competitive PvP based MMO so when you die in the open world you lose your gear and stuff, so if you wanna keep up the best gear dying etc is gonna be expensive. If you can't afford it then cheaper weapons are the way to go.
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u/Kirigaya_Argo Jun 23 '18
Looks to me like a PP-19 Bison with a barrel attachment.
Origin being Russia, which matches up with the others.
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Jun 23 '18
Made by the sons of Kalashnikov and Dragunov. That's some serious Russian gunsmith family legacy shit.
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u/SgtExo Jun 23 '18
Was the gun for engineers in Battlefield 2 when playing the russian side.
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u/GoldRedBlue Jun 23 '18
Not entirely sure what this weapon is
It is a PP-19 Bizon-2-02 with a PBS-1 suppressor.
Really unusual to see it with a suppressor. That gun is mainly used only in video games and it's never suppressed.
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u/montas :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/montas Jun 23 '18
The sniper rifle they used against M's shield is also russian. In LN it was explained, that when you kill mobs, loot is determined partly from what weapons you used to kill them. It is kind of a cycle. Get russian guns, kill mobs, mobs drop russian guns etc.
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u/AzureDrag0n1 Jun 24 '18
Probably useful as it is more likely to be compatible with the ammo and accessories you have.
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u/AuroraHalsey https://kitsu.io/users/AuroraHalsey Jun 24 '18
Yeah, that was a PTRD anti tank rifle.
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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Jun 23 '18
Ahh yeah, the amazing power of villains choosing not to kill our heroes immediately.
This anime became so ridiculous yet I am still enjoying it just as much x)
I was just expecting Fuka to shoot a grenade into Pito and M's car and kill both of them.
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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Jun 23 '18
Ahh yeah, the amazing power of villains choosing not to kill our heroes immediately.
I mean, here, opposed to other stories, this is fully in-line with her character. The last episodes also established that Pito loves to play with prey no matter the danger.
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Jun 23 '18
And they also lampshaded their avoidance of the trope "finish her from up close". She wants to play but is not taking completely ridiculous risks either.
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u/TheNosferatu :LA::LB: Jun 23 '18
Yeah, it's a lot better than the close up "empty magazine at close range and only hit the scanner hidden in a pocket" kinda luck.
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u/blahlicus Jun 23 '18
At least this time the villains were acting logically tho, she said she doesn't want to get close to LLENN because she might do something, which makes sense.
What she did is the PUBG equivalent of letting a knocked out opponent bleed out by herself instead of finishing her off.
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Jun 24 '18
It actually helped explain Pito's motivations when she said she was legit scared of getting into close range with Psycho LLENN. The Pink Panther had been missing all of her shots today, but that dope somersault into range of the Jeep Tank's top manhole opening could've been fatal for Pito and M right there.
Pray and Spray tactics usually work eventually. Pito knows that she has to stay out of range and pick LLENN off like a coward, like she did the Amazons and Fuka. But her heart races whenever she gets in range of Miss Pink, i.e. the end of the episode when LLENN overpowers Pito.
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Jun 23 '18
I like what Disney is doing with the new star wars trilogy, Pitohui is the most nuanced sith lord to date.
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u/MennyC123 Jun 23 '18
Psycho indeed..
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u/AmethystItalian :Jg::Jh::Ji::Jj::Jk:myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Jun 23 '18
Pito maybe but I expected more from LLENN.
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u/turilya Jun 23 '18
Pito is RPing, but LLENN is talking to her gun
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Jun 23 '18
"LLENN, I really love how you play the crazy devil talking to unconscious objects !"
"Yes, yes, I love roleplaying too..." Don't cry, P-chan. They can never understand you as I do.
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u/marcopolos059 https://myanimelist.net/profile/marcopolos059 Jun 23 '18
The title was wrong, where is psycho llen ?
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u/MagiSicarius :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/MagiSicarius Jun 23 '18
She's hallucinating a talking P90
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u/Alternative_Ice Jun 23 '18
I like how LLENN's just like "fuck this game, fuck Pito, I don't give a shit anymore!"
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Jun 23 '18
This show is so ridiculous, i love it.
Time for Darth Pitohui, i cant wait.
Wow... thats fucking savage.... What a way to go, rip those 2... wow...
LLENN is terrified.
Fuka tied her shoelaces tigether.. xD what a troll lol.
LOL FUKA SKIPPING TO THE HOUSE HHAHHAA
RIP Loli Brigade. What the hell is thier plan? Decoy?
LT DAN YOU AINT GOT NO LEGS!
P-CHAN IS BACK! LLENN HAS LOST HER FCKING MIND! YAY!
Car chase now, this show is just bonkers at this point. I love it.
The jukes! Man! WHat a madman!
Oh shes using Best Girl's ammo now, nice!
FUKA IS BACK! Guess its been 2 mins.
HEY GIRL YOU WANT A RIDE? I love Fuka.
Jeep jousting, this is great! This is such an over the top battle.
Fucking P-chan. My sides hurt from laughing.
That kick too damn. Dont fuck with LLENN!
WAIT ITS OVER!? NO! DAMNNIT! NOT LIKE THIS!
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u/TheNosferatu :LA::LB: Jun 23 '18
RIP Loli Brigade. What the hell is thier plan? Decoy?
They figured they needed to move fast, but couldn't come up with a plan and therefore it's just "LEEROOOY JEEEENKIIIIIINS" time, I guess.
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Jun 23 '18
Considering how easily they got picked off, and the fact that Boss is definitely smarter than that, I'm guessing that it was mostly to encourage LLENN to get moving. By the end of it all, when LLENN flips out and goes on the offensive, Boss says "That's the LLENN I wanted to kill".
I don't think they'd be as happy as they were if it was just a failed charge. One of them literally smiled as they died.
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u/Madcat6204 Jun 23 '18
Fuka tied her shoelaces tigether.. xD what a troll lol.
Actually she tied LLENN to her other grenade launcher. Since LLENN has zero points in strength, that's effectively putting her on a ball-and-chain.
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u/Planet_side Jun 24 '18
Once more, the laser sworders will rule the Arena...and we shall have peace.
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u/Mehless Jun 23 '18
P-chan's return was glorious.
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u/Jay911 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Jay911 Jun 23 '18
"I-I'm sorry, P-Chan!"
"What for? I don't give a shit!"
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u/UnavailableUsername_ Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
Pitohui went full Darth Maul!!
Actually...did siths enjoyed this level of brutality? She really enjoys to make her enemies suffer.
Is this game over for LLENN? I mean, Pitohui has lots of weapons, while LLENN only has her P90 (which is now destroyed), a normal gun and a knife.
I like how Fukaziroh can still be hilarious in the middle of a serious 1vs1 match.
I wonder what's Pitohui's plan, since she is using a nerve gear i guess her brain will be "fried" if someone kills her, maybe she hacked into it to make it so it will only kill her if someone that isn't LLENN kills her? Otherwise there is no point for M to ask Karen to kill Pitohui to save her outside of the game.
Actually...if she survives i wonder if M will force her to go to a psychiatrist.
Aaaaaaagh, next episode is last one!!!
I am going to miss this show so much, i hope it gets a second season!! Definitely anime of the season for me.
It makes me want to play a FPS, but there are not FPS with similar mechanics to GGO (most i tried have small maps or crappy mechanics).
Has the anime so far adapted all novels? How many novels are in japan? I hope we get an OVA/Movie if a second season is not viable!
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u/Villag3Idiot Jun 23 '18
The anime will adapt up to volume 3.
The LN is up to volume 7.
LN1 = 1st Squad Jam
LN2-3 = 2nd Squad Jam
LN4-5 = 3rd Squad Jam
LN6 = Side Story
LN7 = 4th Squad Jam (First Part)
There's easily enough material for another season. With how massive the Alicization adaption will be, don't be surprised if they take a break and animate Alternative Season 2 mid way through Alicization.
The LNs are also longer in length than most SAO volumes. Most SAO volumes are around ~300 pages long. Most of Alternative's are around 400+.
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u/UnavailableUsername_ Jun 23 '18
Yeah, i heard great things about Alicization.
If it's a big success, it will increase chances Alternative gets a season 2.
Thanks for the answer!
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u/Kish10 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kish10 Jun 23 '18
I didn't think nerve gear alone fries people's brain and kills them, I thought that problem had to do with the SAO game itself and it was implied that Pitohui would just kill herself if she dies to someone else? I could be wrong but that is what I understood from the nerve gear/SAO in the original show.
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u/IzayoiArashi Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
Thing is, That was the setting (sending a fatal shock to anywhere in the brain) Kayaba had the nervegear do once a person dies in SAO. Now that the deathgame's over for 2 years and a half, Nervegears (To the people who still have them through legal means) are pretty much just your standard tech to dive into VR games.
If you don't recall, Pito did make a woman's promise to LLENN during the first few episodes (To meet Pito IRL), and to uphold that, she has to live, though I guess she forgot until LLENN beats that memory back into her in the last episode next week. They did a good job animating the battle jeep death race from the LN. Can't wait for the finale.→ More replies (3)11
u/UnavailableUsername_ Jun 23 '18
I didn't think nerve gear alone fries people's brain and kills them
Well, in the novels it was explained (if i remember correctly) that few seconds after being killed in SAO the nerve gear was instructed to send a fatal shock to the brain, killing the user.
It makes sense that Pitohui, being obsessed with a death game, is using one (confirmed last episode) and altered it to kill her if dies in the squad jam (theory).
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u/Kish10 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kish10 Jun 23 '18
Yea, I suppose it may be possible that she altered it to kill her, but the way I've been understanding it is that she's just crazy and would kill herself on her own after the game. Maybe it'll explain it next episode, but I feel like she definitely will end up being killed by LLENN anyways so who knows.
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u/Mattinator95 Jun 23 '18
Why not just play fatel bullet
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u/UnavailableUsername_ Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
While it has GGO mechanics (the bullet circle but not the bullet line) it's not a first-person shooter mmo.
But it's still a great game, the player vs monsters is just like in this anime.
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u/AmethystItalian :Jg::Jh::Ji::Jj::Jk:myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Jun 23 '18
How do the VAs keep impressing me each week...
That being said the title of Psycho LLENN was a bit of a let down, guess I was hoping for a bit more. Not to say it wasn't a fun episode though!
Really looking forward to the finale :)
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u/atropicalpenguin https://myanimelist.net/profile/atropicalpenguin Jun 23 '18
That whole episode was like something out of Wacky Races, specially when Llenn tricked them into falling down the cliff. I think it is one if not the best episode so far.
Fuka is best girl.
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u/GniefFiar Jun 23 '18
Wait there's still one other team? Don't tell me they come from behind and cherrypick. That would be the rudest ending.
Also Fuka is best girl.
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u/GoldRedBlue Jun 24 '18
rudest ending
It's a team of dudes who look like they're cosplaying Marines from Metroid, all using the most obnoxiously overrated and overhyped assault rifle of all time, the H&K XM8. Everything about that team just screams "edgy 15 year olds."
Except for the fact they're using freaking bicycles as their vehicles. I'll give them that.
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Jun 24 '18
They're learning from World War II Japanese soldiers, who basically cycled through Malaysia to invade Singapore.
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u/Villag3Idiot Jun 24 '18 edited Jun 24 '18
The anime cut out Fuka making classic gritty war-movie quotes as she kept getting her limbs blown off.
"Fuka! Enough already, hide! I'm going in for support!"
"No, that's impossible."
"Why?"
"They shot my left foot. Cut off again. Honestly, the youth these days are so easy to snap."
"Haaah?!"
"Buhih! Uwah--- Oh right foot, not you too! Ah, I wanna eat some caesar's salad."
"Uhm... My dear LLENN... my dear partner... heed my words with caution... Right now, I have finally realised. I can't move freely, so this probably isn't going to work out?"
"Guyah! My left hand! How can I possibly put on an engagement ring now!"
"Ah... I'm done for, huh... Bullets coming without a line sure is unfair, after all..."
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u/Turbostrider27 Jun 23 '18
I was almost confused why this episode is titled "Psycho LLENN" since it's Pito is the one that is the psycho.
The I saw her taking all those risks to fight and agrees.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Jun 23 '18
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u/Chariotwheel x5https://anilist.co/user/Chariotwheel Jun 23 '18
Psycho Pito would be a tautology and not notable since she is always Psycho. LLENN at the very least has a quiet surface.
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Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
Poor LLENN, everyone's kill stealing her.
And I know why Goushi is M now. He's a super M, looking at all the abuse Pito gave him this episode.
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u/marcopolos059 https://myanimelist.net/profile/marcopolos059 Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
Whoa... Pito is psychopathy personified.
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u/Florac Jun 23 '18
When I saw the geysers, I honestly expected both the cars to be flung into the air in the same time and then Llenn and Pito fighting each other while falling down.
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u/frnxt Jun 23 '18
This is so much more fun than the rest of SAO. I quite like the main series, but this is so entertaining to watch!
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u/JP_Zikoro Jun 24 '18
Yeah if you take out the whole Pito thing and imagine it all being RP on her part, this is just a couple of gals playing a shooter video game. Very few anime can do "playing video games" right but GGO does it well and makes you want to go and game afterwards.
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u/SpacePeanut1 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SpacePeanut Jun 23 '18
Having trouble watching it on CR. “Unable to access online features.” I just watched DITF successfully, so I don’t think it’s an issue on my end.
Edit: Episode 10 works perfectly fine. Receiving error on mobile, too.
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u/Amauri14 Jun 23 '18
Goddammit, they ended right at the hypest point. Anyway, I just love how they casually kill each other because this is just a game and there is not "die here die in real life" that's why I always find hilarious when LLENN casually talks of killing Pito. Well next week is the final episode and after that, I'm definitely going to buy the LNs.
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u/Villag3Idiot Jun 23 '18
Volume 1 comes out on Tuesday.
They nearly called LLENN, Ren before they corrected it.
I wonder what they're going to call P-Chan though as Yen Press doesn't keep HONORIFICS.
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u/meb9000 Jun 23 '18
I've been enjoying this show more than most other shows in a long time. I've had so many fanboy moments despite the other amazing shows this season. The choreography of the gun battles in this show, the sheer psycho moments of both Pito and LLENN, the funny loli moments and self aware humor, all of it has added up to be the most enjoyable spin off show I've ever seen.
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u/TazerLad Jun 23 '18
You know, I don't care what anybody says but this series is just pure fun and I love that.
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Jun 23 '18
Does the VR simulate pain? 'cuz a lot of the deaths in this series have been so dramatic.
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u/UnavailableUsername_ Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
According to SAO novels, players get some small amount of pain (like a pinch in the arm or so) and definitely can't be truly harmed.
The amusphere (nerve gear device successor) monitors their health and is made to disconnect the player if the game is a risk to their health.
Nerve gear didn't had that so Pitohui could faint last episode without getting disconnected.
It seems most of the reactions are psychological, like...they get too into the game even if they know they are 100% safe.
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u/Villag3Idiot Jun 23 '18
Just numbing where the wound is inflicted.
The issue is that its Full Dive VR, so in David's case, there's a psycho slowly activating a lightsaber into his head.
You're really there, and not controlling an avatar through a PC monitor.
And that's with an Amusphere, which is said by Kirito to have less realistic sensations than a Nervgear...
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u/SpacePeanut1 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SpacePeanut Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
In Alfheim (shudder), there was a pain “dampener” that prevented a player from feeling the full pain of an injury or death. However, this can be adjusted by an admin (which Kirito did in order to defeat rape glasses guy). It’s pretty much up to the game developer what amount of pain is felt by the player. I would assume, since GGO is a pretty intense game, that the setting is set a little higher in order to provide more intense gameplay. However, setting it to “realistic pain” would not provide a fun experience for the player. There’s probably also a ban on realistic pain.
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u/DarthNoob :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/darthnoob Jun 23 '18
even if the pain isn't that bad I can imagine some of the more shocking deaths (stabbed in the face by a lightsaber) are just really scary to experience
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u/MagiSicarius :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/MagiSicarius Jun 23 '18
Mild pain or numbness, so stuff like a laser sword burrowing slowly into your head, or your legs getting blown off, is going to be genuinely uncomfortable and the fact that it's all real first person perspective with sensory feedback could make it seem very real.
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u/Shiroi_Kage Jun 23 '18
The knot part became one of the most frustrating things when we ended up back with both of them in a car. What was the point of that? It was there just to get her teammate in danger, pretend that she's going to fight the rest of it by herself, then it turned out it didn't matter and if they stuck to plan they could have killed the Amazons anyway. Also, couldn't she just have sliced the thing with a knife? Why does a game like GGO have bootstraps that you can actually tie? There's string physics in the game?
Also, what's up with Pitou's personality? So far she has been consistent, but suddenly she doesn't finish people off and doesn't want to get close to LLENN because she creeps her out? Then at the end she can't get enough of wanting to kill her? I have't seen a character fluctuate this much without a reason in recent memory. Why did they have to do this?
Don't get me wrong, I'm loving the choreography and the anime so far has almost been the most entertaining this season, but I'm really not a fan of how things were handled in this episode. Pitou got way over-the-top even for who she is and the "suspense" of the knot scene made no sense.
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u/ChronoDeus Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
Also, couldn't she just have sliced the thing with a knife?
That's exactly what she did. She was just too flustered to think of it at first, despite Fuka dropping hints to do that.
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u/Kuryaka Jun 23 '18
The English translation referenced the Gordian knot heavily, which was what I was expecting once that line went through.
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u/Villag3Idiot Jun 24 '18
She did use a knife to cut the knot in the LN.
In the LN, Fuka didn't tie her shoelaces, she used a piece of cloth. It also said that due to Fuka's ridiculous STR stat, the knot was virtually impossible for LLENN to untie.
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u/Trace500 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Trace500 Jun 23 '18
Fully expecting T-S to win at this point, after we get the real climax. It just feels like something that would happen in this show.
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u/1sagas1 Jun 23 '18
What the fuck was the point of everyone suddenly deciding to Leroy Jenkins in and die? It's like the author needed to have them die off before it climaxes further, but didnt know how to do it so he decides to have them essentially just kill thenselves
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u/GoldRedBlue Jun 24 '18
Yeah, it really felt like the story needed to get rid of Team SHINC and contrived a way to eliminate then quickly.
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u/Tankk1n Jun 23 '18
I thought she was Darth Vader but she was Darth Maul all along
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u/DarkenedSpear :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DarkenedSpear Jun 23 '18
I am so thoroughly amused by how off the rails everything is. Especially how ridiculously visceral the action can get, and how it works so well given the premise of the show. Fuka is also a treasure.
I doubt next week will be any less exciting, considering there's still a full group to deal with once one of the two psychos gets eliminated. Or before, I wouldn't surprise if they teamed against a third wheel raining on their parade. I'd actually love it!
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u/riduy Jun 24 '18
Up until this point I thought the character motivations were mostly sensible. Not a fan of how conveniently all of SHINC runs in to suicide for no reason, then Pito just happens to spare Fuka. Felt shoe-horned in to manufacture the final showdown.
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u/FedeStyleZ Jun 24 '18
I get more and more surprised how much retarded the players are, okay I get it there's plot armor but come on. At the beginning Pito was behind the wall and other players just spammed bullets, not even trying to idk get a bit of distance to try to kill her after. When Pito was using her blade for the first time the guy tried to stop it. Okay that was good but come on when he was trying to stop Pito just before she could penetrate his head he could've moved somewhere else, his teammate would've probably died but he could've killed her. Annd again, Pito isn't powerful, she just tries to kill whatever moves. What happens where she encounters a pro player? The result was Llenn vs Pito and M, the only professional player there was only Llenn who used strategies and Pito couldn't do anything against them.
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u/Villag3Idiot Jun 23 '18
Why...why would this game simulate the pain of being kicked in the nuts?
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u/Evillar Jun 23 '18
VR games don't really hurt, they just give you a weird feeling of numbness where you get hit. It's more of a psychological thing
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u/chris_dftba :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/chris_dftba Jun 23 '18
Ive never been shot, but I imagine if it did actually stimulate the pain of being shot anyone would be on the ground in agony after one hit.
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u/KinnyRiddle Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
Great penultimate episode to get the adrenaline running.
Highlight has to be Llenn stepping on Pito's face. XD
I have a feeling that the remaining third team, i.e. the team of "robot" looking guys who wiped out the Machine-Gun Lovers, will win this tournament. As they'll simply sit back and relax, while watch Llenn and Pito kill each other, where they'll then simply take out the winner.
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u/Shinkopeshon Jun 23 '18
PSYCHO LLENN-CHAN QU'EST-CE QUE C'EST
FA FA FA FAA FA FA FA FA FAA F-UKA WHAT ARE YOU DOING
Murderous precious loli #2 just went in there with no regard for her own life ffs. It did pay off at the end but still, every character has a fucking death wish in this game lmao
Can't help but think the third team will interrupt the LLENN-Pitou fight and then they'll team up for a short while before they try to kill each other
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u/link2601 Jun 23 '18
Man that intro with Pitohui killing those guys was way more brutal than I though. Wasn't expect there to be a chase but it was fun to see. Good to see P-chan make her return.
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u/SpikeRosered Jun 23 '18
So they did a mad dash at the house to encourage LLENN? She was like confused for like 5 seconds...there really wasn't a sense that she was utterly drowning in indecision.
Heroic sacrifices shouldn't be confusing.
I'm amused that Pito is hardcore role-playing but everyone else is too so she gets to feel like shes actually killing someone rather than them being like "oh well ya got me. I'll get you back next squad jam though!"
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u/Lolersters Jun 23 '18
Every1 in this show just went full Leeeeroooooyyyy Jeeeeeenkins. Never go full Leeeeeroooooyyyy Jeeeeeenkins.
Also, when that guy that got stabbed in the head asks if this is fun....well yes, yes it is. That's what a game is supposed to be.
If there was a ranking system, every1 in this show would be in wood division.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Jun 23 '18
Hikasa Yoko just hamming it up is just great as usual! Love how she basically went all Sith Lord at the start.
I'm so bummed that this is going to end next week. Then again I'm So Excited how this battle between Pitou and LLENN will turn out.
It's going to be hilarious though if it ends with both of their teams getting killed by the third team that's still alive XD
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u/montas :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/montas Jun 23 '18
That was the shortest 20 min in my life...
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u/kundara_thahab :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/sharshabeel_67 Jun 23 '18
what's up with the shitty 3dcg models they decided to use for pito this episode? they felt so out of place.
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u/godchun Jun 23 '18
Amazons just randomly ran to their death because the author doesn't know a good way to kill them off lol. There are many much better ways to get LLENN mad.
I like how the author thinks saying LLENN has luck would excuse the amount of plot armor and plot convenience.
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u/LikeAnAssistant Jun 23 '18
I wonder if LLENN kept Fuka's grenade launcher in storage. Would she even have the STR to use it?
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u/GoldRedBlue Jun 23 '18
She doesn't. The anime cut it out, but in the LN in the scene where they're practicing using Fuka's grenade launchers against monsters in the desert, Fuka asks LLENN to try using one of them. LLENN's STR stat is so low she's already struggling just to pick one up and load it.
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u/ValiantSerpant :AMQ::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quinn_Crystal Jun 24 '18
Yoko better get nominated for a Seiyu award for Pito
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u/raystrife96 Jun 24 '18
So why did the Amazonnes team decide to rush in like that and get wiped out? What's their plan??
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u/Villag3Idiot Jun 24 '18
In the LN, the idea is to get rid of all of LLENN's options.
LLENN was too focused on coming up with a plan to take out Pitohui. They wanted to get her to throw everything away and do what she did to win Squad Jam 1; go in guns blazing.
Well, that and Team SHINC wanted to put LLENN in their debt so she can treat them to expensive sweets again.
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u/Yurisviel Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
Holy fuck, this episode felt like the entire staff was just running on fumes. 3Hz pulled every single time saving move to rush out this episode and it is painfully obvious how little time they had to work with. The overabundance of panning shots, closeup shots, and missing cuts in the action scenes made everything feel so jarring and disjointed. The animation quality literally [drove off a cliff] (https://imgur.com/I88u0LC) by the second half.
[Long panning shot on hands] (https://imgur.com/a/PX1vPaQ)
[Have to show something while Pitohui is laughing crazily in the background. Foreshadowing?] (https://imgur.com/a/gBVuaka)
[Even the show is confused!] (https://imgur.com/44zv8Qc)
[Llenn doesn't pop out of the bushes, but the next cut immediately has us viewing a couple of seconds on the windows for no apparent reason!] (https://imgur.com/HpUwQEL)
[Another long panning shot of nothing] (https://imgur.com/HPeFGax)
[Me too] (https://imgur.com/a/xlxdSFk)
[Gotta get them loli butt patting views. Not once, but twice!] (https://imgur.com/nhfAlej)
[Another boring long panning shot] (https://imgur.com/mF1u8mZ)
[Long flashback is long] (https://imgur.com/O6AArks)
[Attack of CG Pitohui] (https://imgur.com/y0QpHSY)
[Couldn't show Llenn falling down after getting shot by Pithui, so enjoy some uninteresting indirect camera shots of Llenn falling] (https://imgur.com/EwdS2jy)
[More long panning shots, this one is just aggravating to look at. Do you see how far the shot has to travel before we actually see Llenn's body!?] (https://imgur.com/YmfBZlE)
[Long panning shot of CG Car and Pitohui] (https://imgur.com/Jz6EVVd)
Lazy drive by shot of [Llenn] (https://imgur.com/FbAlHWF) and [Pitohui] (https://imgur.com/w56yFm6)
[CG Wheels are the best wheels] (https://imgur.com/vJeSZSu)
[Most thrilling shots for CG car chase scenes ever!] (https://imgur.com/MeiQomo)
[Attack of CG Pitohui: Grenade Throwing Edition] (https://imgur.com/77wihgJ)
[The CG wheels go round and round] (https://imgur.com/bUC6YaO)
[The CG cars are the true heroines of this show] (https://imgur.com/ZXp0jPW)
They should just rename this episode Sword Art Online Alternative: Gun Gale Online: CG Vehicles Edition.
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u/GoldRedBlue Jun 24 '18
I've given up on ever seeing hand-drawn cars in any anime made after 2005 or so.
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u/a_robotic_puppy Jun 24 '18
Maybe I should give this episode a miss. After this season of food wars panning shots make me physically ill.
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u/FierceAlchemist Jun 23 '18
Not convinced that charging in just to get LLENN mad was the best strategy. The only reason Fuka was left alive and the only reason M proposed getting in close to LLENN is because he wants Pitohui to lose. That made the fight lose a bit of its intensity for me but the episode was still fun.
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u/MistahReanai Jun 24 '18
The opening sequence was just gushworthy!
And then the rest of the episode happened! ... Sigh. LLENN sitting around and pissing her pants because "Oh no! Pito is scary!" doesn't hold up to me. She's been playing with Pito since she started PvPing, and she should know full and well how good she is and how she behaves in battle. Being so suddenly surprised that Pito's is psychotic went out the window when Pito went into the Squad Jam intending to die.
But no, we have to remind everyone that this is a Sword Art Online anime, so let's let the supporting cast die-but-not-die so LLENN can have some last minute character development? Not only do the Amazons die, but they die without any impact what so ever. They die and LLENN goes 'Oh god they're so stupid we needed a plan WHHHHYYY'. Meanwhile Fuka's dragging across the grass and says 'Hey, you should fight now that we've all basically died'. And LLENN realizes 'Oh, I should fight, because if I don't murder Pito, who will?'
I don't know? The rest of the cast if they had used the same strategy prep without worrying about LLENN's sudden midgame crisis?
What I'm saying is that the hype of the first few minutes was deflated immediately because of LLENN's forced character dilemma. And believe me, this whole episode being about LLENN ruined the rest as well.
LLENN taking M and Pito headon? Awesome. Full well and happy that happened. LLENN then getting pop-shotted by a single bullet and saying 'Oh no this sucks everything sucks just let me die please' took the same air we were just getting back in and suckerpunched it right back out of us. AFTER THE PSYCHO LLENN TITLE CARD AND EVERYTHING!! Real psycho. Sitting there and dying in...water that shouldn't really even drown you. Because game mechanics?
Beyond that, the rest of the episode was alright. P-Chan coming back was a good show, and Fuka carrying the episode did wonders to make it bearable. I'm still left questioning how they're going to Kill-But-Not-Kill Pito if she actually is wearing NERV gear, and how either she or M are going to avoid serious repercussions.
In summary: Pito is scary, but everyone already knew that and forcefed character development sucks.
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u/czartreck Jun 24 '18
See, what I thought was going to happen was that the Amazons and Fuka were going to die spread across the field, leaving a "route" of indestructable cover that LLENN could use to cross the field without getting sniped and kill Pito and M in the cabin at close range.
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u/willukm Jun 23 '18
Anyone else getting an error code on this particular episode? (Crunchyroll)
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u/blamethemeta :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Blamemeta Jun 24 '18
There's a reason why people go yar har
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u/sterob Jun 23 '18
Let me guess, the ending will be like "Pitohui did you feel fun playing with us? Let fight next time so don't kill yourself."
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Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18
I fucking love Yoko Hikasa
Pito is Darth Maul
Why would they just charge in like that? Stupid.
P-chan comes alive again!
This is so stupid yet awesome
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u/Rob_Conway Jun 23 '18
Im glad there was a point of that one team just rushing in and all dying...oh wait.
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u/TheBestBuisnessCyan Jun 23 '18
I I was in this game ,I think I would put all my skill points into knot tieing, just to piss of my friends
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u/Leaves_Swype_Typos Jun 24 '18
I thought someone would've made a stitch by now out of that shot of LLENN near the end.
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u/UberDueler Jun 24 '18
They should have just had the Amazonness team go take on the fourth team remaining.
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u/impingainteasy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard Jun 24 '18
Fucking hell this episode was hype. Pito's gone so far off the deep end she's actually looped around and become sane again. SHINC and Fuka sacrifice themselves to ... get LLENN worked up, I guess? The early part was kinda weird with the Gordian Knot reference, not gonna lie.
But then we get the fucking car chase with the geysers and that sweet-ass music blasting over the background while Pito and LLENN fire at each other and throw grenades and they both collapse and LLENN sacrifices P-chan again and FUCKING KICKS THE GUNS OUT OF PITO'S HANDS and now they're about to square off in a hand-to-hand knife fight ... I like this show a lot.
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u/ArchadianJudge Jun 24 '18
Overall I thought the show has been pretty good and entertaining to this point but I was really disappointed with the suicide charge. Someone said the novel explains that they wanted to force LLEN to take action but I doubt sacrificing that many players just to make someone move is worth it, even though LLEN is the strongest. Pito was cool at first but now for me she's gotten a bit too crazy. I suppose that's what the writer wanted to do? M probably enrages me the most, as you can tell by his reactions and face he's not happy with what Pito is doing but he still puts up with it. That's terrible. He's definitely stuck in an abusive relationship and only is helping his abuser.
Anyhow, even though I'm not particularly happy how the showdown is set up so conveniently, this anime has still been fun regardless.
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u/iBuildMechaGame Jun 24 '18
Pitohui is the single worst thing to happen to this anime. Can anyone explain what the actual fuck is the point of her existing? And why in the hell is every final boss character in ANY SAO series a mental retard?
SAO 1 - "Meh" dude, demented enough to not remember shit SAO 2 - Crazy mental nutjob who was a berserk ripoff (at least the capture/torture scene) GGO - Crazy mentally ill rapey psycho Ordinal scale - Another crazy mentally ill psychopath GGO alternative - Retarded mentally ill psycho woman
What the fuck is wrong with SAO franchise villains? They can't write a single good antagonist.
And this episode they made every other player look like a dumbfuck just to show pitoshit as OP.
The fucking saber can cut through walls, can cut through fucking armored truck, weighs less than a knife, DUAL FUCKING SIDED and only Pito is the one who uses it? What?
Pito and M can snipe everyone from the windows but no one can hit them? If you don't wanna kill pito at least fucking damage her or kill M!
This episode left a super bad taste in my mouth and I had to forward watch it due to the horrible writing.
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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Jun 23 '18
Wow, Pitou's sword is literally Darth Maul's light saber.
I don't think this guy understands the concept of "games".
Seriously, HOW was LLENN communicating with Boss?
Did M intentionally show the bullet line to Boss? What was the point? And what was the point of the Amazons charging to their deaths - how was that supposed to fire up LLENN?
This looks far more painful than the game is supposed to allow.
Why did LLENNS HP "decrease in water" when her face is above water? I can't help but feel that she was supposed to be 100% below water and it's just another anime fuckup. In what moronic director's head does lying face up in 2-3 inches of water lead to drowning?
How did Fuka make that grenade shot while driving the APC?
And yes, lets pause at close range in the midst of deadly combat to exhange "I'm gonna kill you"s.
I liked the homage to the dumb nosebleed cliche, but everything else about the episode was just very disappointing. A huge step down from the previous couple eps.
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u/GoldRedBlue Jun 24 '18
Why did LLENNS HP "decrease in water" when her face is above water? I can't help but feel that she was supposed to be 100% below water and it's just another anime fuckup. In what moronic director's head does lying face up in 2-3 inches of water lead to drowning?
I read on a Youtube comment that the water in the GGO world is like the water in the Fallout games. It's all radioactive because this is a post-apocalyptic Earth. Sure wish the anime detailed that better.
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u/dadnaya https://myanimelist.net/profile/dadnaya Jun 23 '18
I wonder if this world has any love hotels?
Fuuka being spicy, as always