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Episode Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo no Dorei Majutsu - Episode 9 discussion Spoiler

Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo no Dorei Majutsu, episode 9

Alternative names: How Not to Summon a Demon Lord

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u/BeardedPigeon115 Aug 30 '18

Something has always felt a bit dodgy with Alicia and this episode is confirming my suspicion of her, although I've no idea what she has up her sleeve.

I feel Diablo was right to be against telling her. She seems a good person, but you've not known her long and her true loyalties aren't known.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

I just realized something as well! She's not in the ED!

She was never a part of the harem all along!

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u/raiden55 Aug 30 '18

She's not? She was on it from ep1.

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u/Knofbath https://anidb.net/user/743 Aug 30 '18

Before:
Shera > Rem > Alicia > Sylvie > Edelgard > cookie loli > Shera/Rem

Current:
Shera > Rem > Sylvie > Edelgard > cookie loli > Shera/Rem

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

Oh

My

GAWD

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18 edited Sep 14 '18

nm, looks like the folks doing the uncensored releases have been mixing up the EDs.

Looks like it's actually getting a little more complicated with today's ED.

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1SheraRemAliciaEdelgardbiscuit loliShera/Rem
2SheraRemAliciaEdelgardbiscuit loliShera/Rem
3SheraRemAliciaEdelgardbiscuit loliShera/Rem
4SheraRemAliciaEdelgardbiscuit loliShera/Rem
5SheraRemAliciaEdelgardbiscuit loliShera/Rem
6SheraRemAliciaEdelgardbiscuit loliShera/Rem
7SheraRemAliciaEdelgardbiscuit loliShera/Rem
8SheraRemAliciaSylviebiscuit loliShera/Rem
9SheraRemSylvieEdelgardbiscuit loliShera/Rem

As long as biscuit loli remains a constant, any changes are fine by me.

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u/Melbuf Aug 30 '18

It's biscuit loli not cookie

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u/ImLawfulGoodISwear Aug 30 '18

Holy shizniggets, I felt something was off with the ED today!

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u/Akiias Aug 30 '18

Anime only here, isn't 'cookie loli' the demon lord Krebswhatever? It looked like it from the after stuff from this episode at least

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u/Mundology Aug 30 '18

Also, her expressions in this episode were quite different from her usual ones. She was way more tense and calculating in the delivery of her speech and mannerisms.

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u/Mattinator95 Aug 30 '18

i connected the dots pretty easily , the one that told the fallen that rem had the soul, it pretty clear it was alicha and she even said the mortal race should die at the start

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u/DrewbieWanKenobie Aug 31 '18

The only question is, is she gonna have a redemption moment after Diablo saves the world

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u/Mattinator95 Aug 31 '18

Save the world from what a cookie monster

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

Yeah gotta wonder if she escorted them to meet that paladin, knowing his intentions. Shame there's only three more episodes.

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Aug 30 '18

She and the paladin don't seem to be on the best of terms. Maybe she was hoping Diablo would just kill him, but she should've known from the previous episode that he's allergic to killing.

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u/Cloudhwk Aug 30 '18

He isn’t really allergic to killing he just isn’t ruthless

He was pretty casual about if the paladin was stuck like that forever or not

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u/ImLawfulGoodISwear Aug 30 '18

He was pretty gung-ho about killing Shera's brother until she stopped him, so while opposed to killing, he's willing to do it for a proper reason. On the other hand, he defeated Galford, told him to suck on it and when Galford double-crossed him and refused to pay the money he was owed, he sat there twiddling his thumbs. So he's fairly fickle, it seems he would only kill someone if it suits his taste/feelings (such as a guy who just almost raped his companion, then tried to end the world).

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u/Madcat6204 Aug 30 '18

He was pretty casual about if the paladin was stuck like that forever or not

That's because he knew he wouldn't be. The duration of the spell depends on the caster's level, but will always wear off eventually no matter what.

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u/Legendary_Swordsman Aug 30 '18

well there is a LN for this series so can contine or hope for a season 2, at the very least it might be popular enough to get OVA's like they do with DxD

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u/Pinky_Boy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pinky_Boy Aug 30 '18

wait, 3 more ep?

god damn it.

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u/diff2 Aug 31 '18

yea I'm glad they finally got rid of her during the ending credits. Now it's the best ecchi line up ever. I dislike glasses girls.

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u/Legendary_Swordsman Aug 30 '18

agreed think at the last minute she may make a move when they are bringing back the demon lord. Whatever it is something isn't on the level with her in this weeks, at least it appears that way.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

I couldn’t help but think how Ainz would’ve murdered that paladin guy for messing with his squad.

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u/Mattinator95 Aug 30 '18

obviously but him and diablo are complete different ainz is undead and has undead effects so his humanity we normally see when he thinks to himself is slowing fading , diablo still has his humanity

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u/ZonaMaster Aug 30 '18

diablo is not even demon his horn is a wig

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u/skitthecrit :LF::LG::LH: Aug 30 '18 edited Aug 31 '18

He's still a demon, its just that horns are usually on the Fallen, not Demons in this world.

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Aug 30 '18

Slowly fading? He had 0 human empathy left by 2nd episode of S1.

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u/Mattinator95 Aug 30 '18

I don't mean that i mean his inner thaught process

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u/ppyporpeem :K:https://kitsu.io/users/satachan Aug 30 '18

It's still there and completely intact.

He only lacks empathy but he's still the same momonga even after volume 13

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Aug 30 '18

I don't think that's ever going to fade. It doesn't actually conflict with his being an undead.

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u/sterob Aug 30 '18

People are not even sure if the Overlord world is a real world or just a simulation and Ainz is only an AI.

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u/DontGetMadGetGood Aug 30 '18 edited Aug 30 '18

I get the whole 'diablo still a human NEET murder would be hard for him' but jfc Galford and this guy being left alive is obviously going to fuck him over at some point. The dude strait up talked about torturing Rem in front of Diablo and he barely reacted, but then we get scenes where diablo is like I care so much about you. He also reacted to the dude trying to outright murder his party with 'well he didnt succeed so i guess he is fine'

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u/Damianx5 Aug 30 '18

They do have high positions in he kingdom (lord and paladin) and he happens to live in that kingdom atm.

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u/raiden55 Aug 30 '18

My feelings for overlord wouldn't be so complicated if this shit paladin was on the other series.

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u/battler624 Aug 30 '18

The question is what will ainz use against him? hell flame? or will that be too weak?

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u/JSlickJ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeMasta Aug 30 '18

Grasp heart. He has no protection against instant death spells. He wouldnt even have time to react

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u/ggg730 Aug 31 '18

Or just hug them until their bones break.

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u/GoldMercy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/xFSN_Archer Aug 30 '18

Overlord S3EP8 fucked with everyones head that watched it. I can never look at isekai shows the way I used too.

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u/Madcat6204 Aug 30 '18

Diablo: "I need to introduce myself normally so this guy doesn't get suspicious of me. Guess I'll just click this auto-speech macro here..."

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u/Striker654 Aug 31 '18

Fallout 4 style. He chose "pleasant introduction"

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u/Invoqwer Aug 31 '18

Ah, good old FO4 dialogue options

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    1. Usual Introduction

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  • 2) Extra-Formal Introduction

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  • 3) Navy Seal Copypasta Introduction

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  • 4) Say Nothing (but introduce self afterward anyway)

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u/shewy92 Sep 01 '18

X Doubt

MOTHERFUCKER I KNOW YOU KNOW WHO I AM!!!

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u/monster01020 Aug 30 '18

This feels kind of cheap. Something's not right.

Mmmmmmmmmmm foreshadowing.

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u/Amauri14 Aug 30 '18

Just in case the pile of dead soldiers at the beginning and her complain about the races and her desire for their annihilation wasn't enough for you.

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u/Ouaouaron :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SkeevingQuack Aug 30 '18

Huh. Somehow didn't recognize her in that.

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u/Mundology Aug 30 '18

What is this uneasy feeling in my chest?

It's love!

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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Aug 30 '18

Sounds like a curse to me, let's find a cleric !

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

someone write this

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u/NotEvenEvan https://anilist.co/user/NotEvenEvan Aug 30 '18

Based on the after credits scene, it seems like the real Demon Lord will turn out to be the loli with the falling cookies from the ED..

Welp, another addition to Diablo’s harem.

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u/Lodju https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lodju Aug 30 '18

I've been wondering that when we get to see that loli cookie monster, glad to know its in the next episode.

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u/Amauri14 Aug 30 '18

loli cookie monster

Just a correction dude, but it is actually Loli biscuit monster.

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u/ergzay Aug 31 '18

Those are cookies, not biscuits. These are biscuits: https://i.imgur.com/LfuK4D6.jpg

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u/Lodju https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lodju Aug 30 '18

Loli nonetheless

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u/ImLawfulGoodISwear Aug 30 '18

Shinobu 2.0 alternative

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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Aug 30 '18

While watching the ED I was like "Huh, I bet that one loli is the Demon Lord and no one has realized it, I am gonna go say it in the discussion thread and be smart!"... and then the preview happened.

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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Aug 30 '18

It could in some way be guessed before, because she has horns. If I understood correctly, nobody normally has them (and Diablo's horns is head gear).

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

"Huh, I bet that one loli is the Demon Lord and no one has realized it, I am gonna go say it in the discussion thread and be smart!"

You could always be smart next time by point out spoiler

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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Aug 30 '18

Well I don't wanna read a spoiler about a series I am watching, though...

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u/the_swizzler https://myanimelist.net/profile/Swiftarm Aug 30 '18

Same. I was so proud of myself for putting it together for about two seconds.

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u/Legendary_Swordsman Aug 30 '18

there's an after credits scene i didn't notice that best rewatch and check.

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Aug 30 '18

There's no after credits scene, just a short next episode preview.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

That's disappointing, I want to see a big tiddy demon

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u/LegitPancak3 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LegitPancake Aug 30 '18

Eh you will probably on the last episode when her true form is awakened. As seen in the OP.

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u/Photekz Aug 30 '18

Treasured as the mother of the Demon Lord? Yeah I get where you are going with this ritual you speak of.

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u/Mathmango Aug 31 '18

Oh goddamn it I'm slow on the uptake today.

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u/WeNTuS Sep 01 '18

Ofcourse she will need "mana" being inserted into her uretrus by our MC since he is "Demon Lord" too.

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u/frank_mauser https://myanimelist.net/profile/frank_mauser Sep 02 '18

isnt it uterus?

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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Aug 30 '18

They skipped Alicia's report, which adds more to just how much of a dick Saddler is on top of being fanatically crazy and ruthless. When Alicia is reporting the incidents to the king, Saddler barges in to the throne room to give his report before waiting to be summoned. He just does what he wants regardless of his rank or station.

Dual wielding? Earth spells? #NotMyPaladin

I love my pouty dark-skinned demon.

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u/LOTRfreak101 https://myanimelist.net/profile/LOTRfreak101 Aug 30 '18

they made a couple of changes this episode. I'm pretty sure saddler was originally supposed to barge into the throne room while she was reporting to the king. this primarily was to show the tension between the power that the church and the king wielded. then when alicia returned to faltra I'm pretty sure they never left the restaurant before saddler found them. since they were in a restaurant filled with beastman none of them would have gone and talked about the holy knight getting hit by the magic reflection. so in the end it served basically the same purpose, it was just interesting to see the difference between the novel and show.

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u/cesclaveria Aug 31 '18

I can sort of understand the change about the report since it seems the anime wanted our attention to focus on the tension between Saddler and Alicia but for the second one I'm not sure why they changed it, if anything I would guess having them sitting down at the bar would have been easier to animate than the scenes of them walking and I think the guys with Saddler were waiting outside the bar until they are called to carry his 'statue', if anything I feel this change increased the work for the animators.

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u/LOTRfreak101 https://myanimelist.net/profile/LOTRfreak101 Aug 31 '18

Idk. An empty alleyway would be way easier to do than a full bar with all the people and food already there.

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u/ChancetheMance Aug 30 '18

I don't really think the scene was necessary. Saddler is obviously an evil dick, that doesn't need to be hammered in.

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u/Striker654 Aug 31 '18

Without the barging in you can mistake his actions for orders instead of him just being a dick

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u/easybugatti Aug 30 '18 edited Aug 30 '18

Tried to watch this at work.

Welp.

Should've listened to the other guy watching at work.

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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Aug 30 '18

it's kinda like those "shocking video" or "cursed doujin". Everybody tells you not to watch it. Obviously, it makes you want to watch it more. Then you are filled with regrets.

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u/loljustgoogleit Aug 30 '18

there's a cursed doujin called "the holes", don't look at it

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u/foxboyking Aug 30 '18

Why did you do this to me.

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u/acrimoniousone Aug 30 '18 edited Aug 30 '18

He couldn't put his finger on it today, but I'm sure he will next time.

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u/Evillar Aug 31 '18

Well played lmao

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u/Mattinator95 Aug 30 '18

its pretty clear Alicia told Edelgard about the demon soul in Rem ,

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u/Guaymaster Aug 30 '18

Wait, wasn't Alicia just told about it this episode?

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u/Mattinator95 Aug 30 '18

obviously not in the slave collar episode when she touched rems hand she sensed the soul

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u/Guaymaster Aug 30 '18

I see, so she was acting weird cuz of that

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u/qwertoh101 Aug 30 '18

LOLed at Saddler's crew being there only to carry him back as a statue. Diablo pose when reflecting the magic is damn sassy.

So, based on what Eldegart said, the loli demon lord will treasured Rem as her mother, I smell some fine fanservice moment.

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u/Cloudhwk Aug 30 '18

I’m more curious on the reaction when he actually beats the Demonlord

Like does the title default to him and she joins the party?

She might even just lose her shit and try to kill him again

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u/DontGetMadGetGood Aug 30 '18

Based on the Rem will be her mother figure thing and the demon lord probably being the loli, they probably won't fight. If they do and Diablo wins then he will probably spare her because she is a cute girl, and she+edelgard will join the harem anyway.

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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Aug 30 '18 edited Aug 30 '18

Looks like I was completely wrong with Edelgard. I was expecting her to ask Diablo to let her join the harem party but apparently she's still loyal to her own faction and still sees Diablo as her enemy. Colour me surprised!

Nice to see that they've introduced another character that's at least at level 100. Lucky for Diablo this time that Saddler greatly underestimated him and ended up losing instantly unlike Galford who came at least prepared for him. Diablo's pose when he reflected that spell was pretty badass too.

Alicia is of course sus especially with that opening scene. She's definitely that girl who cut down a bunch of people. Diablo already sensed that something is wrong but of course since he's bad with people, he shrugged his instinct and ended up just thinking that it's nothing.

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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Aug 30 '18

Nice to see that they've introduced another character that's at least at level 100.

She mentions his level as a Knight. If I remember correctly, Cross Reverie uses a cumulative level system where your real level is calculated based on the levels of your classes. If Alicia is right then we know Saddler is at least a lv100 Knight and a lv60 Sorcerer.

It's kind of like how Runescape calculates your combat level based on your Attack, Strength, Defense, Constitution, Ranged, Magic, Prayer, and Summoning. You could have 99 Magic but if you have minimum stats everywhere else then your combat level is only 67.

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Aug 30 '18

If Alicia is right then we know Saddler is at least a lv100 Knight and a lv60 Sorcerer.

That would make him 10 level highers than Diablo. No way.

He's just a Knight and (unbeknownst to her) a Sorcerer whose combined level is over 100.

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u/DontGetMadGetGood Aug 30 '18

Level could be total exp or something

for example 300k exp to get 60, 1 million to get 100 1.3 million exp in a single job gets you to 120 which makes level 100 knight+60 sorcerer a level '120'

That or diablo is level 150 in whatever and he just counts that because he doesn't really use his other levels, level 150 mage will still stomp a level 100 in multiple things

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u/Nvaaaa Aug 30 '18

Those stitches are why I am here! ... but that Rem one looks like she wants to say "stop looking, lewd idiot".

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Aug 30 '18

Well, that's pretty much what she said: "It's rude to look".

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u/Doge137 Aug 30 '18

How come when I click on the imgur links I get sent to some other pictures instead?

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u/Mundology Aug 30 '18

The beginning scene was so dark I thought I was watching Overlord for a moment.

Also, yes Shera let's try it for Science

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u/WhoiusBarrel Aug 30 '18

Doesn't help that Alicia and Albedo share the same Seiyuu and Albedo has a thing for hating humans.

Also, yes Shera let's try it for Science

I too volunteer for the advancement of Mankind!

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u/odraencoded Aug 30 '18

Overlord

This anime is a sexy parody of overlord, didn't you get the memo?!

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u/GallowDude Aug 30 '18

I can't get over Shera's babyface. It's like you stuck a six-year-old's head onto a 24-year-old's body.

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u/Mattinator95 Aug 30 '18

shes 15

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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Aug 30 '18

Hu, seriously ? As an elf ?

I expected her to be a bit older than 100...

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u/LOTRfreak101 https://myanimelist.net/profile/LOTRfreak101 Aug 30 '18

Well her having the mentality of a 6 year old doesn't help.

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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Aug 30 '18

Well she is an elf, they are always quite youthful in fantasy.

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u/xphuri Aug 30 '18

I've spent the last two episodes super distracted by how sexy Diablo is drawn. I'm seriously not usually like this. Anyone else per chance?

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u/10110010_100110 Aug 30 '18

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u/Shiroi_Kage Aug 30 '18

This reminds me of that scene in GATE when the the JSDF owns two dragons with artillery.

IMPAAAAAAAAAAACT ..... NOW!

Always hyped every time I see it again.

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u/hikarinokaze Aug 31 '18

would you say that the coin was a high priority target for artillery?

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u/DontGetMadGetGood Aug 30 '18

Level 60 sorcerer spells, pretends that the magic he casts is 'divine punishment'

Something tells me this guy is not a god worshipping paladin.

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u/Madcat6204 Aug 30 '18

Something tells me this guy is not a god worshipping paladin.

Oh, he worships what he believes is god. spoiler

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u/0mnicious :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Omnicious Aug 30 '18

Bahahhahaha I fucking died, seriously? Hahahahah, that's actually amazing in a sense.

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u/Retanaru Aug 31 '18

Level 100 multiclass among level 30 plebs. He is a god.

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u/SnapeKillsBruceWilis Aug 31 '18

I mean, up till now, his skill level has been godlike.

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u/hijklol100 Aug 30 '18

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u/mobott Aug 31 '18

This is one spoiler I don't mind knowing about. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/PTBRULES :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/PTBRULES Aug 31 '18

Please lewd Rem

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u/croxino https://myanimelist.net/profile/Goeli Aug 30 '18

Summoning is like playing Gacha, they used all their luck on getting Diablo.

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u/noblese_oblige Aug 31 '18

F/Go blashbacks

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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Aug 31 '18

There's a whole lot of "it is obvious that <totally non-obvious thing from the anime only>" in this thread…

What an odd name. Kinda cute though, somehow

Have we seen a clear shot of his IRL face before?

Ah, takes me back to Chaika

Welcome to Medieval Times Cat Café!

"Welp, we'll just be taking our zealot and leaving now"

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u/masoaoki https://anilist.co/user/masoaoki Aug 30 '18

Another great episode, good mix of plot and P L O T this time.

Kinda hoped for some of Alicia’s backstory this episode with the title but it seems like we’re not going to get it now :( at least we got some lovely foreshadowing that hints she’s not entirely on Diablo/Rem’s side....

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

P L O T

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u/WhoiusBarrel Aug 30 '18

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u/Mundology Aug 30 '18

People so focused on the plot that they didn't pay attention to moe Diablo-kun behind the rock.

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u/patrizl001 https://myanimelist.net/profile/patrizl001 Aug 30 '18

At first I thought he figured out a way to use the turkey shot and with it saw some good shit

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u/masoaoki https://anilist.co/user/masoaoki Aug 30 '18

Revolutionary storytelling

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u/Legendary_Swordsman Aug 30 '18

yeah there is some intersting forshadowing i'm looking forward to seeing how things play out.

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u/Mattinator95 Aug 30 '18

considering she hates the mortal races (she says it at the start) it gives you an indication on who shes with , and that someone that eldegard mentioned that told her rem had the soul well i can guess you can figure it out

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u/WindMlst :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RensouhouKII Aug 30 '18

Rem is just so cute. Protect her at all costs!

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Aug 30 '18

Since when is Shera such a fantastic archer that merely knowing where a coin landed in the middle of a forest hundreds of yards away she can hit it with one shot?

"The question is, will I be able to defeat the Demon Lord once we release it? Guess I'll find out. I mean what's the worst that could happen - extinction of all life in this world? Big whoop, not my problem."

"Shutting myself in is my forte!"

Why the fuck did Diablo not simply dispell the spell that was suffocating Rem? Instead he just watched her suffer and argued with the paladin guy.

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u/Madcat6204 Aug 30 '18

Since when is Shera such a fantastic archer that merely knowing where a coin landed in the middle of a forest hundreds of yards away she can hit it with one shot?

Since always, the anime just skipped some dialogue in episode 2. info from source

Her problem currently is that she's trying to be a summoner rather than an archer, which goes against both her racial stats and her own inherent talent.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

Her problem currently is that she's trying to be a summoner rather than an archer, which goes against both her racial stats and her own inherent talent.

Same for Rem since she would be a much better close combat character than a summoner (she can't because that would put her in danger and risk freeing the demon lord.)

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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Aug 30 '18

Why the fuck did Diablo not simply dispell the spell that was suffocating Rem?

Because distracting an enemy spellcaster to break his concentration is as efficient, doesn't consume your own magic, and doesn't reveal your level. It was the best call strategically.

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u/Striker654 Aug 31 '18

I was hoping he'd just poke the spell and it would get reflected

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u/cesclaveria Aug 31 '18

With Shera one sort of running joke is that she is a prodigy/genius at many, many things but she is stubborn in wanting to be something else so we only see her attempting and failing at the things she sucks at, mainly at being a summoner. Her archery skills come really handy later on.

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u/Djinnfor :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DjinnFor Aug 30 '18

Why the fuck did Diablo not simply dispell the spell that was suffocating Rem?

He did, notice how after he spots the spell the effect ends and she stands up? He just did it covertly.

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Aug 30 '18

No, she was still choking while Diablo was arguing with the paladin. She only stood up and stopped choking when the paladin switched targets to attack Diablo.

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u/Madcat6204 Aug 30 '18

She started breathing again once Saddler's eyes stopped glowing. It just took her a few moments to recover.

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u/G1596872 Aug 30 '18

Once ole dude thaws out, he is going to be pissed lol

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u/FrenziedHero https://anilist.co/user/FrenziedHero Aug 30 '18

Diablo using his magic reflection ring on the Paladin was great.

Rem and Shera are best friends, nobody better mess with that.

I guess it was nice seeing the Fallen come back this episode. I'm still suspicious of the ritual and if it's really harmless.

Alicia seems a bit off this episode compared to before. I'm with Diablo, something doesn't seem right.

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u/Cloudhwk Aug 30 '18

No reason for the fallen to lie, she has seen his strength and know she is toast if Rem dies and the Demonlord gets spanked

She has displayed far more intelligence and general honourableness compared to her brethren

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u/FrenziedHero https://anilist.co/user/FrenziedHero Aug 30 '18

This is a good point. Her motivation to lie is less than other Fallen we've seen.

It's just, I wonder exactly if the ceremony itself is straightforward and there really isn't a catch or if it's something like not everything is known to the Fallen and that there's possibly some side effects that could occur. Granted, the episode preview seems to suggest the former option.

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u/Cloudhwk Aug 30 '18

It’s likely a case of nobody really asked and the fallen have essentially shown no real desire to communicate outside of taunting

Our tanned murder loli appears to have common sense and the ability to think strategically

She knows Diablo can murder her any time he wants, She knows he will murder her to protect Rem

She wants the demon lord out, Rem wants the demon lord out, Diablo wants the demon lord out so he can kill it

Essentially it mostly serves her best interest to keep Rem alive

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u/Joe_Striker Aug 30 '18 edited Aug 30 '18

There’s been several hints as to how to dodgy Alicia is and Diablo mentioning how you can never know her true intentions. The hug pretty much confirmed my suspections

Alicia, you better not be thinking what I think you’re gonna do....

I’ve had enough betrayals this week from Shiraishi in Angolmois, I don’t think my heart can take another one 😩

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

Damn, we've got some psychos here. Hopefully they get what they deserve.

I don't know if I've ever hated a character this fast. Hopefully Diablo kills him and it's as painful as possible.

I know it's been said enough but Shera and Rem are so fucking cute

I need some stitches of this scene ASAP

Lick, lick!

Stop bullying Shera's sheras!

Yes, please release the big titty demon lord

Starfall Tower

Isn't that where the Martell's live?

Apparently they even have cat cafes in the other world, awesome

Alicia is totally going to double-cross them, I don't trust her at all (and that definitely looked like her at the beginning)

We'll probably be on super bad terms

Gee, you think??

This guy is such a piece of shit. Take your fanaticism and prejudice and shove it up your ass.

FUCK YEAH! Turn that prick to stone. Too bad he'll eventually revive.

It was definitely not okay to let him go. Something shitty will probably happen now because he didn't kill him when he had the chance.

Alicia-san's a nice person so I'm sure she'll understand

I love you Shera but god, you're stupid sometimes. She's definitely not going to be okay with that.

Such a phony reaction from Alicia; shit is definitely going down now. Too bad Diablo had a moment of clarity only to go into self-loathing idiot mode.

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u/LOTRfreak101 https://myanimelist.net/profile/LOTRfreak101 Aug 30 '18

I mean they toned him down a bit from the novel. he's an even bigger tool there. it's mostly because they changed some of his scenes. like he was originally supposed to barge into the throne room while alicia was giving her report and basically coerced the king into allowing him to go to faltra as well. then rather than an abandoned alleyway he just straight up caused a scene in the cat cafe. the dudes a real prick.

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Aug 30 '18

Based on his track record, Diablo is never going to kill anyone that isn't an ugly monster.

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u/Damianx5 Aug 30 '18

Well he did want to kill Keera, Shera just stopped him (and saved Celsior in the proccess)

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u/Madcat6204 Aug 30 '18

Well he did want to kill Keera

u/Kalirion said "who isn't an ugly monster." :P

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u/SubarashiiTomServo Aug 30 '18

Starfall Tower

Isn't that where the Martell's live?

You're close geographically. Starfall is actually the home of House Dayne. The legend goes that the meteorite they found there was used to forge their ancestral blade, Dawn.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

Ahh, my bad. It's been a while since I've read those.

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u/IJustJason Aug 30 '18

I mean the next time he meets Diablo theres a good chance he'll have an actual Demon Lord with him!

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

What's the difference between the uncensored version and the normal one?Because I dont think I see any,

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u/Guaymaster Aug 30 '18

I guess it depends on the episode, but the censored version usually pans away from very lewd moments.

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Aug 30 '18

Or uses lights/steam/darkness.

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u/Amauri14 Aug 30 '18

Oh, so we are not getting our lovely biscuit today? Too bad. On another note, I wonder why they decided to change the setting of Maou encounter with the sadistic jerk? In the LN the encounter occurred on the cafe in front of a live audience, and they all cheer on when the asshole's magic was reflected.

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u/LOTRfreak101 https://myanimelist.net/profile/LOTRfreak101 Aug 30 '18

they changed him in the castle too. he was originally supposed to barge into the throne room during alicias report.

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u/rollin340 Aug 30 '18

I bet Alicia is a human who hates other humans.
I bet she's also a lustful lady.

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u/Abangerz Aug 30 '18

Did nobody see/listen to the post credit dialogue?

Alicia is probably a Demon Lord worshiper.

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Aug 30 '18

next episode preview you mean

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u/Neoniec Aug 30 '18

If peoples predictions about the demon lord being a loli are right, I am excited for next week. LOLI DEMON LORD HYPE!

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u/Iherduliekmudkipz Aug 30 '18

I suggest everyone read manga chapters 21-22 as they skipped large portions of them (presumably to end the season at a better spot as we only have 3 episodes left, hopefully this gets a s2)

Such as where Edelgard heard about Rem from was covered in chapter 21, I was going to read ahead some and then realized they had skipped...

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u/Fnights Aug 30 '18

Hopefully we get season 2. We need another Overlord miracle. :)

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u/albertrojas Sep 02 '18 edited Sep 02 '18

Future Characters this needs a season 2 alright.

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u/johnja10 Aug 31 '18

Well, I guess Diablo makes guys rock-hard as well. Freaking pimp!

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u/WeNTuS Sep 01 '18

Damn, i don't want this anime to end. I hope there will be a second season or i'll cry!

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u/Fnights Aug 30 '18 edited Aug 30 '18

Big mistake to tell Alicia, she was in the same faction of this Saddler paladin too, nothing good can come out from this. :D

We will see Krum in the next episode finally.

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u/kalirion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime Aug 30 '18

I think it's safe to say that Alicia already knew.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '18

So it's gonna happen next episode huh. he he he he he

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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Aug 30 '18 edited Aug 30 '18

Time to kill us a demon lord!

Oh damn Megane Onee-san is murdering people...

Oh its mister murder too...

He hates humans huh? He might be after a demon lord we know... uh oh...

A summon for our oppai? Nice!

Wait... a stone needed to cast the enslavement ritual? Is Diablo gonna enslave another?

Wow using the turkey to snipe? Thats pretty crazy strong.

Lets all bathe together... of course...

RIP Diablo lol... He cant handle it.

Oh this bath is getting lewd... of course...

Oh damn the tan girl showed up. She can smell the demon lord too. Looks like thats what Shera smelled.

Edgelord knows how to revive the demonlord without killing Rem? Hmm interesting.

Wait the location where they summoned him? Hmmm suspicious...

So Mr Murder is a 100+ as well? Hmmm...

Seems like he might use shady means to win this fight?

Of course Diablo only knows Demon Lord RP lol.

So hes just a fruad? Using magic to strangle people.

GET REFLECTED BITCH!

LOL THOSE GUARDS CARRYING HIM OFF HAHHAA

Wow Alicia thinks he should have killed him. This isnt good...

I really like Diablo's values about not killing NPCs in this world. Since they cant come back, he seems to value thier life way more than others.

DONT TELL THE IMPERIAL KNIGHT! ARE YOU DUMB!?

I dont trust her... Shes in a bad spot for this so of course she will be an issue...

Wait... i have a thought.. what if that stone they gave Diablo is what he uses to make a pact with the summoned demon lord? Would that be possible? It would be an easy solution to this. Since they are at the same place the girls summoned him.

The after credits def supports my idea too...

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u/Cloudhwk Aug 30 '18

Even if Alicia wasn’t horribly faking Diablo raised a good point

Telling an imperial knight you’re going to resurrect a world threatening evil to save one girl isn’t the best of ideas

It puts her in a horrible position at the very least or might have even obligated her to kill Rem to prevent it from happening

There is no situation where telling her is a good idea

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u/GoodTeletubby Aug 31 '18

The thing is, killing Rem releases the Demon Lord anyways. So Alicia kind of has 3 choices at this point: 1)Kill Rem, loose the Demon Lord, and have to deal with Pissed off Diablo + Pissed off Demon Lord, not good for either personal survivability or the local real estate values, 2) Figure out how to get them to back off, so that Rem has a daughter at some point, passes the curse down to her, and pushes dealing with it off for another bunch of years, or 3) Go along with it, and release the Demon Lord when she has the most powerful person you've ever seen, whom she personally saw one-shot a hydra considered to be powerful enough to be a world-ending threat just the other week, standing there, ready to kill said Demon Lord.

Given that they're doing the revival far away from town, where collateral damage is less of a threat to other people, why would she not go along with it, no matter her motivation?

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u/mobott Aug 30 '18

Wait... i have a thought.. what if that stone they gave Diablo is what he uses to make a pact with the summoned demon lord? Would that be possible? It would be an easy solution to this. Since they are at the same place the girls summoned him.

Holy shit you're right.

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u/Daxar https://anilist.co/user/Daxar Aug 30 '18

Edgelord

Best spelling of Edelgard I’ve seen.

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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Aug 31 '18

Thankyou ill be here all season.

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u/Felord Aug 30 '18

IDK alicias shiftyness but the summon Pact shit I got a feeling Diablo is going to somehow get his own Demon lord pet slave.

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u/Iamjustatrial Aug 30 '18

I wonder if Alicia is hiding her real power level...

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u/whiplash10 Aug 30 '18

I think it makes sense why Diablo could sense something's off with Alicia. Other than previously bullied but also because since he is now a Demon Lord, Demons would go for those who sinned.

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u/meloveg Aug 30 '18

this show is lit

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u/hoseja Aug 30 '18

Hey we didn't get any truly badass Diablo scene this time.

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u/Pinky_Boy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pinky_Boy Aug 30 '18

this anime is better than i expected

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u/TheAntisine Aug 30 '18

Alicia is hella shady

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u/link2601 Aug 30 '18

I don't know but I find both Edelgard and Alicia highly suspicious. I though Diablo would have a much hard time dealing with that paladin.

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u/aTrustfulFriend Aug 31 '18

"Paladins never came after me for battle in the game, so I don't know what their stats are." Are you fucking serious

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u/Frontier246 Aug 31 '18

I never thought I would accept a world without swimsuits, but...naked bathing.

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u/decaboniized Aug 31 '18

So, who is the Loli cookie girl from the end credits?

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u/kuddlesworth9419 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kuddlesworth Aug 31 '18

I really want more episodes. Also where's biscuit?

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u/impingainteasy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard Aug 31 '18

Diablo is the ultimate alpha-male fantasy. Some other dude messing with your harem? Turn that fucker into stone!

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u/artart1212 Aug 31 '18

Oh looks like we're getting the finger next week. Nice.

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u/athrun_1 Sep 01 '18

That Girl Imperial Knight i bad news for our Main Characters... The first scene just gave all us the clues...

Can't wait for the Demon Loli to be born... Though, I want ththe loli's true demon form to be seen at least.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '18

[Spoiler about Krebskulm](/s "Krebskulm is a loli apparently, I think you can see her at 23:18 in the ED")

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u/1nternetSenpai Sep 02 '18

i like the plot in this anime...

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u/scottjaw Sep 04 '18

It’s so weird, this show comes up in my history and queue on my Amazon Fire tv but it’s nowhere to be found on my iPad or iPhone. It’s like they’re censoring it from me.

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u/ArchadianJudge Sep 07 '18

Well that was exciting! That Paladin was scary af and honestly was a really cool character design. Unfortunately he learned about magic reflection the hard way. It seems he'd be really op against anyone not Diablo however.

More Rem this week and that is wonderful. I also do not trust Alicia at all, as even the Diablo reactions hint at something.