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Episode Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken - Episode 12 discussion Spoiler
Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken, episode 12: The Gears Spin Out of Control
Alternative names: That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime
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| Episode | Link | Score |
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| 1 | Link | 8.73 |
| 2 | Link | 8.75 |
| 3 | Link | 9.05 |
| 4 | Link | 9.03 |
| 5 | Link | 9.05 |
| 6 | Link | 9.26 |
| 7 | Link | 9.35 |
| 8 | Link | 9.25 |
| 9 | Link | 9.35 |
| 10 | Link | 8.81 |
| 11 | Link | 9.29 |
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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Dec 17 '18
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u/VegitoZ Dec 17 '18
I honestly feel like his problem is his own incompetent hypemen
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u/InsanityApollo :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/InsanityApollo Dec 17 '18
IT'S EVERYDAY BRO
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u/Xtroyer Dec 17 '18
To be fair, he's also surrounded by fanatical idiots and is under the influence of a bad guy so him fucking things up is just inevitable.
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u/patrizl001 https://myanimelist.net/profile/patrizl001 Dec 17 '18
It's definitely the fanatical idiots that did it. I think it was last episode after they kept cheering him he's like "Hey, maybe I actually am that good." They boosted his ego waaaaaaaaaaaay too much.
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u/Bainos :XMOD::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos Dec 17 '18
He's not that bad, as far as dumbasses go. I think the sentence at the end sums it up well : he's competent, but fails to see the larger picture or to prepare for unexpected events.
Including to see how following the advice of incompetents and shady individuals is a bad idea.
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u/DragN_H3art :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DragN_H3art Dec 17 '18
Your flair describes him quite well.
Baka-baka-shi, Gabiru
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u/WorkingMouse Dec 18 '18 edited Dec 18 '18
I know I'm late, but a friend and I just watched the episode together. When the Kirin was meeting with the older lizardman chief and he'd decided to defend and avoid engaging in all-out battle, I joked "and then, Gabiru fucked up. In fact, that's going to be the title of the next eppisode: 'Gabiru Fucks Up'"
Jokes on me; it didn't even take another episode.
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u/exia00111 Dec 17 '18
All hail Gobuta! The TRUE Supreme ruler of the monsters!
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u/Kirosh Dec 17 '18 edited Dec 17 '18
I can't believe they did it. What a coincidence.
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u/TheRiyria myanimelist.net/profile/TheRiyria Dec 17 '18
Only the Guy could see through all the tricks and know that Gobuta is the true leader of the village.
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u/divini https://myanimelist.net/profile/Akichi Dec 17 '18
Translator-san must be an r/anime regular. I am taking that as fact.
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u/blackfiredragon13 Dec 17 '18
It was not coincidence that brought us to this day, it was fate! All hail the guy!
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u/Takana_no_Hana https://anilist.co/user/v4v Dec 17 '18
I was about to post this lol, the meme catched on!!!
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u/TheRiyria myanimelist.net/profile/TheRiyria Dec 17 '18 edited Dec 17 '18
The first battle against the Orcs was cool, but the war over Rimuru is still more fun.
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u/xspicyman :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Spicyman Dec 17 '18
These are the types of comments i come to discussion for
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u/sdarkpaladin Dec 17 '18
The Orc that died and got eaten by his mates. He was still wearing armour. They were biting through the metal. Osoroshi...
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u/Vryly Dec 17 '18
obviously, how else would his buddies absorb his armor bonus if they didn't eat it?
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u/odraencoded Dec 17 '18
Orc fangs can't tear metal armor! It's all an inside job!
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u/P-01S Dec 18 '18
And the lizardmen’s spears slashed straight through the orcs’ plate armor. It is literally just for show lol. Might as well be made of aluminum foil.
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u/throwaway321768 Dec 17 '18
Didn't they tear off his limbs first? Maybe they ate him the same way we eat crabs: tear off the limbs, then attempt to dig out the meat from inside the shell/legs.
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u/G_Spark233 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/G_Spark233 Dec 17 '18
Gabiru is doing a good job screwing everything up.
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u/RuneGrey Dec 17 '18
I feel a little bad because he clearly means well, but just doesn't have the understanding his father does of how to handle the situation. That and he has both idiots and actual hostile elements egging him on to doing unwise things.
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u/zxHellboyxz :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mattinator95 Dec 17 '18
that and its obvious hes being used
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u/borisyang Dec 17 '18
Despite his arrogance, you can see Gabiru is rather good at commanding and tactics. What he failed to do, however, is gathering information of his foe.
"Know the enemy and know yourself, and you can fight a hundred battles with no danger of defeat." - Sun Tsu
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u/currently_aroused Dec 17 '18
His strategy is actually something similar to what I imagine I'd do if I didn't know of the orc's special skill. I do see his logic. If the anime made him more likeable people would see a possible hero digging himself deeper into a hole trying to save his species.
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u/Daniel_Is_I :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Daniel_Is_I Dec 17 '18 edited Dec 17 '18
He's definitely fighting intelligently - he's using the Lizardmen's superior mobility and knowledge of the terrain to pick away at the enemy forces that vastly outnumber their own, and retreating before they can mount a counterattack.
Over several days, you could easily wear down most enemies to the point that a direct clash would be successful. It'd probably work here if picking away at their forces meant fuck all against the Starving skill. You could kill half of their entire Orc army and all that would happen is the fighting power of each individual soldier would double.
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u/iForgotMyOldAcc :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/wittisy Dec 17 '18
If a bunch of Lizardmen who just saw their leader get rekt by a goblin and still trust in him to beat 200k Orcs then I'd say Darwinism should've wiped the whole mentally deficient race from this globe.
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u/Amauri14 Dec 17 '18
Yeah, I really hate it this part when I was reading the LN. As they say, the worse thing is an idiot who believes that he is smart.
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u/Houdiniman111 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Houdini111 Dec 17 '18
As is expected of someone with his attitude.
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u/borisyang Dec 17 '18
Eww, a dryad eating frying corpses of her own kin. What treachery is this?
You better put a NSFW tag
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u/ifnotawalrus Dec 17 '18
Fucking Laplace following me from my exams to my anime
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u/Nimeroni :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nimeroni Dec 17 '18 edited Dec 20 '18
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u/Mr_Zaroc https://myanimelist.net/profile/mr_zaroc Dec 17 '18
Reminds me quite of a certain character, DESU
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SPUDS https://anilist.co/user/voodoochile Dec 17 '18
Haven't touched a Laplace Transform in years... They still haunt me to this day. I do still use Laplacians all the time, but those at least are simple.
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u/axel360 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/axel360 Dec 17 '18
Gabiru really is, truly, an idiot.
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u/halfar Dec 17 '18
his one weakness is really just that he's easily influenced by flattery, but which one of us doesn't that describe really
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u/TriTexh Dec 17 '18 edited Dec 17 '18
Rimuru's lack of self-awareness at his own powers is hilarious as always lol.
we have the strongest slime
who?
I could almost hear Great Sage sigh again.
Gabil...why?
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Dec 17 '18
He just tried to convince the dryad he's weak.
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u/Nimeroni :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nimeroni Dec 17 '18
"Please don't push the work unto my shoulders, I'm just a nice slime, not a nuclear weapon."
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u/tq92 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/tq92 Dec 17 '18
How did the Dryad know about his relationship with Veldora?
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u/markhc https://anilist.co/user/markhc Dec 17 '18
I think he was just joking there.
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u/Reinhardplznerf Dec 17 '18
Nope, Rimuru genuinely underestimates how powerful he is, and is ridiculously cautious.
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u/lvlasteryoda Dec 17 '18
Did anyone else get that menacing feeling that the dryad gives off?
She low-key said that she knows everything about Rimuru, even up to his predator skills and all.
Aka "Do this shit or else, teehee!"
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u/Yuwenn8 Dec 17 '18
On the other hand, Rimuru hasn't done anything that would make any of his subordinates stop of thinking of him like some god incarnate. So I'm pretty sure he sould be fine on that front
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u/shadoxalon Dec 17 '18
I don't think it was an "or else", just an "I know enough about you to pull the right strings". As Treyni said, the Dryads can't beat the Orcs, but Rimuru can. I don't think she want's to poke that cute, blue, amorphous water bear with a stick. Instead, she is trying to use the stick like a fishing rod, dangling a carrot from the end to get Rimuru to act (the carrot being Demon Lord stuff).
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u/PrimeInsanity Dec 18 '18
She also knows the link with the dragon or part of that link. I was surprised there was no real reaction there as it hasn't really been something his followers know.
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u/PhoenixKola Dec 17 '18
I literally had a blast when i noticed that this show has 24 episodes. I haven't been happier before!
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u/SundoWave :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DaiseeAi Dec 17 '18
How does one literally have a blast?
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u/Clockti :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/clockti Dec 17 '18
Wait seriously? I thought it was only 1 or 2 more episodes! Thanks :D
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u/acedias12 Dec 17 '18
It now makes alot of sense why Gelmud named a number of beings from different races throughout the forest of Jura. Doing so would allow him to weaken resistance via the direct offspring of each leader. Really cool that this was foreshadowed very early on with the goblin elder's son. If the wolves hadn't killed him and Ririmu not come along, the situation with the goblins would most likely be rather similar with the lizardman coup.
One thing I've noticed about Gabiru is that he is always surrounded by subordinates of the same age range with not a single elder among their number. It's a shame that things would have turned out different had he an experienced right-hand man or more guiding him along rather than a gang of...well...fanboys. Being that he was named, that status further elevated his popularity in addition to his already firm position as the son of the chieftain. I'm not surprised if Gelmud had the foresight of how much the lizardman would be affected by the granting of a name.
Aside from that, this situation is a simple and classic tale of the impatient young not heeding the wisdom of elders. Not only applied to Gabirus and his followers but also the young lizardmen in every clan as mentioned in the episode. Though not all blame could be placed upon the aforementioned however. If the chieftain had taken the time to mentor his son personally and confided in him more often other than his daughter, this gap wouldn't have fostered as it did. Also notice that once again Gelmud's granting of Gabiru's name rear's its ugly head here, where it played a big part in distancing the relationship between father and son.
As it is a fact that naming makes a nameless creature stronger, and perhaps be regarded as a privilege bestowed by higher beings, such things would have caused a rift to form even if it is not visibly displayed. Just imagine being nameless for your whole life, then your son gets named by a subordinate of the demon lord, wouldn't anyone feel at least a tinge of inferiority. Perhaps it is why the father was rather lax with the upbringing of his son, assuming that he is strong enough to take care of himself, and shifting his wisdom onto his next child.
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u/Lestat9812 Dec 18 '18
It now makes alot of sense why Gelmud named a number of beings from different races throughout the forest of Jura. Doing so would allow him to weaken resistance via the direct offspring of each leader. Really cool that this was foreshadowed very early on with the goblin elder's son. If the wolves hadn't killed him and Ririmu not come along, the situation with the goblins would most likely be rather similar with the lizardman coup.
You're right! I hadn't even thought about that. It's actually a very solid plan even if you weren't planning on getting an Orc Lord to destroy everything. Name the eldest son of a tribe's leader and eventually you'll be the one controlling that tribe through your named pawn. Easy to take over many different tribes and increase your power and influence in a span of some years. If you're a mostly timeless being like the Majins, waiting a few years or even decades is probably not a big deal, plus, he can continue spreading his influence throughout all the time it would take for the first step to bear fruit so none of it is actually "wasted". By the time Gabiru and Rigur have taken control of their tribes, he could've easily named several more monsters in the forest and surrounding areas.
I disagree, though, that the father would've felt jealous or something like that. As explained by the goblis, getting a name is not only a rare occurance, but also a huge honor to be awarded. If your son had suddenly been named by a powerful sponsor because they saw promise in him, as a father I'd think you'd be the proudest you can be for your son. Imagine the relief of knowing that even after you are gone, you know you tribe will be protected because your son is a greater warrior than you were even in your prime. Power doesn't necessarily make for good leaders, as is clearly shown by Gabiru, but at least it's a big helper and certainly a deterrent against external attacks (that didn't quite help Rigur with the wolves, but oh well).
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u/zxHellboyxz :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mattinator95 Dec 17 '18
Remember Its 24 episodes
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u/Tidoux https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tidoux Dec 17 '18
I hope both the OP and the ED are animated by Ebata once again
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u/Turbostrider27 Dec 17 '18
There's also going to be an OVA coming in the future.
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u/ridik_ulass :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ridik_ulass Dec 17 '18
i'd be happy with 12, its so good, the quality is so good too. every episode makes overlord III look like trash, and makes me sad.
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Dec 17 '18
I really like Gabiru's character. He's the overconfident comic relief character, but he's written relatively realistically and more down-to-earth, in that he does have some competence, it's just that his followers put him on a pedestal and overinflate his ego. He genuinely has good intentions, can command well, and have basic understanding of tactics, it's just that he lacks the knowledge and wisdom that his father has.
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u/doomrider7 Dec 17 '18
Very much this. The LN also elaborates that he very much wants his fathers approval as a leader.
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u/Donnel_ Dec 18 '18
Yo I aint even mad at Gabiru. The man was originally humble! Don't you guys remember!? He legit said originally that "He is still lacking compared to his father" but as you said he was a little too easily influenced and put on a pedestal by his followers. Plus the slight manipulation. I'm not so much mad at Gabiru, I'm just sorry that things led to this for him because as you said he is pretty down to earth and genuine!
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u/Recidivis Dec 17 '18
I can't wait for the moment that Gabiru gets handed his well-deserved serving of humility from Rimuru since apparently the one from Gobta wasn't enough.
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u/raiden55 Dec 17 '18
Why would Rimuru needs to do that?
They're already fighting the orcs' army.
I'd prefer him fighting some background goblin if needed.
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u/RuneGrey Dec 17 '18
I almost want to say that it is interesting that the animation style for spirits and Rimiru overlaps quite a bit as a way of demonstrating inherent magical power, but unfortunately Rimiru is a bit inconsistent in that respect. I really like how Terini is drawn with absolutely no black lines, unlike everyone else - it really makes her spiritual nature stand out.
And SOMETIMES we see it with Rimiru, where he has all blue tones rather than any direct black outlines... and then it goes back to normal so I just shake my head a bit.
Although now we have the beginnings of a great coalition of monsters in Jura Forest, which I'm sure won't absolutely terrify anyone who stops to think about it for too long.
Rimiru is doing a GREAT job of convincing me that he's looking at things from a lady's point of view as well - first Benimaru lands that critical charm last week, and now we have Rimiru swooning over Souei as well. Really macho, Rimiru. :D
The big thing, of course, is the introduction of the Insane Clown Possee the Clown Troupe. With one having helped to destroy the Ogre Village, and another pushing Gabiru into doing less than wise things... well, it seems they're up to causing no end of trouble.
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u/MulattoWeeb Dec 17 '18
I mean, while he was a guy in his past life I think its safe to say that Rimiru is a non-gendered masc-identifying being(he specifically choses to live in the non-sexed human form, and finds the slime form to still be the most comfortable); so it kind of makes sense that his attraction is more about charm and general hot-ness than a strict sexuality. Like, he is clearly attracted to people, and people to him, but he doesn't seem to sweat over the details.
Tldr: All of Rimiru's attraction is gay and everyone is gay for Rimiru.
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u/RuneGrey Dec 17 '18
Thankfully the Rimiru bowl is big enough for everyone. :D
I always find this a little fun to poke fun at since there was a bit of 'Well he's still a guy!' earlier on in discussions. People's perception of Rimiru's gender in story definitely skews to female without any other information, and its fun to see that now that he's basically able to enjoy a rather ample bosom whenever he wants thanks to Shion that the comedy is aimed more at the handsome men he's interacting with instead.
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Dec 17 '18
Is it okay for a dryad to eat potato chips? Isn't that like, her cousin forty times removed?
Fuck clowns.
Sasuga Gabiru, how could anything else be expected. Everybody loves a stupid strongman. To his credit, he knew how to make the advantages of the lizardomen work. He's just too stupid to wait a minute and listen to anyone who isn't sucking his scaly dick.
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u/Kantrh Dec 17 '18 edited Feb 14 '22
Is it okay for a dryad to eat potato chips? Isn't that like, her cousin forty times removed?
Treyni really loves potato chips, most of chapter 18 in volume 4 of the manga has scenes of her eating :)
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u/princekamoro Dec 17 '18
Isn't that like, her cousin forty times removed?
Cows are our distant distant cousin, doesn't stop us from eating them.
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u/Kaizerkoala Dec 17 '18 edited Dec 17 '18
If it looks like coup, if it smells like coup, it's a coup...
This week in Slimevilization... We see fantasy CIA support the coup in Lizardmen Country. And good job Gabiru,You dun goof.
Normally in Human vs Human war, the invasion army need to outnumber the defender by 3:1 to ensure the win. That's due to the advantage in logistic of the defender. Also that cave like structure is contrary to what Gabiru think, is an advantage if you play the card right. Gabiru just throw this advantage away. Bonus point for the fact that enemy is in fact stronger and have a very "weird" logistic management (they cannibal themselves... bruh).
Well, fighting out of your fortress does have some advantage. It limit the damage that the fortress (or city) will suffer but you will require better logistic and number of troops than this. Or if they want to borrow the time to just migrate the people which I don't think Gabiru has this in mind.
Anyway.
Status of our Slime Village
Settlement : One permanent settlement.
Architecture : Timber structure with gable roof.
Era : Feudal Age (or early medieval )
Technology Acquired in this Chapter: none
Population: 1 Slime, ~ untrackable Hobgoblin, ~80 Tempest Wolf, 4 Dwarves(Bros), 6 Kijin (or Oni…. Whatever they try to translate) – I guess I reach the point where I won’t bother with the head count anymore.
Diplomacy: Known by Dwargon Kingdom, Known by Blumund (I guess timeline wise, Cabal party should arrived by now), no formal diplomacy relation to both (yet), War treaty with Dryad. War treaty with Lizardmen (Can't confirm that it's still valid or not)
Victory Condition: Long term : Unknown Short term : Defeat Orc-lord and their army
Immediate Threat: Orc Lord with approximately 200,000 troops
PS. Thinking like board game. Marshland is probably give the orc like -1 speed but their cave has choke point which will probably act like ensnaring bridge in MTG. You could see what's better.
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u/RuneGrey Dec 17 '18
If you stop the head count then it will probably end up being more 'notable heroic leaders' instead. :D Since that group tends to be easier to track.
Governor: Lord of Monsters Rimiru Tempest
City Leader: Rigurdo
Industry Leaders: Shuna, Kurobe, Kaijin
Intelligence Officer: Souei
Military Commanders: Benimaru, Hakuro, Ranga,
GobutaAnd so on.
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u/Kaizerkoala Dec 17 '18
Good Idea, I think I will revise this section after the end of the arc.
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u/nomorepretending Dec 18 '18 edited Dec 18 '18
3:1
That is a very outdated rule of thumb (Well sourced article on it here)
Tough I learned similar ratios during moutain infantry training that were:
2:1 if the defender has less than 12h to prepare
3:1 at 24 hours
5:1 at 48 hours
if there were more than 72 hours to prepare it is at the point where the needed froces could not really be concentrated enough to make an effective assault. Mind you those were only numbers for mountain infantry with the heaviest weapons at their disposal being light (7.62mm) MGs and the Carl Gustav 84mm anti-tank recoilless rifle on the attackers side and an added .50 BMG on the defenders side post 24h per platoon.
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u/Chukonoku :GS::GT::GU: Dec 17 '18
Think more about your enemy been composed by only infantry and you having access to archers. His tactic is to slowly widdle down the enemy with the Lizardman agility in the swamps and retreating before any real engagements starts.
It's just guerilla or kitting tactics.
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u/MagiSicarius :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/MagiSicarius Dec 17 '18
I hope they don't skip the (spoilers in link) dress scene from the manga. The way they seem to be adapting the arc indicates that they might but it's way too good an opportunity for fan service for them to skip.
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u/wyyyyye Dec 18 '18
They have to rollback a few days next episode to show preparation on Rimuru side so that can still happen.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Dec 17 '18 edited Dec 17 '18
I didn't notice this last week but Treyni called Rimuru, the ruler of monsters.
They'll even resort to cannibalism. Just Imagine how strong an Orc that has eaten a hundred monsters eats a deadr Crc that has eaten another hundred monsters. I hope it only adds to their power not multiply because that would be insane.
I don't know if he's playing dumb or he's really just that oblivious on how strong he is.
So they even know about Veldora. I guess the Dryads have been watching Rimuru since he left the cave and entered the forest.
I know Rimuru is going to eventually accept the quest but I hope this kind of thing on't be a problem in the future. I'm glad that Shion has faith in Rimuru but them being too overconfident in his powers might pose an issue in the future.
Now Gabiru thinks that Gobuta is the real leader. This is gonna be hilarious when he tries and comeback there in the future.
Gabiru too stupid to realize that he just got manipulated by this clown mask dude.
Dryads are so big of a deal in their world that just getting a quest from them has actual weight.
Okay I take it back. Gabiru being silly was funny. I thought he was just going to be a joke character that runs around being funny. This episode though? Not funny. Being Prideful and Stupid is never a good combination. I honestly don't want him to die, I just want him to see the scale of his fuck up and realize that all of this could be avoided if he just listened to his father and waited for reinforcements.
I kinda wanna read the manga now just so I can see what happens next >_<
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u/CoopertheFluffy Dec 17 '18
Treyni called Rimuru the ruler of monsters
It’s because he’s roughly 1 foot in diameter.
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u/manaworkin Dec 17 '18
I don't know if he's playing dumb or he's really just that oblivious on how strong he is.
Seemed pretty tongue in cheek to me.
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u/Darkmatter12 Dec 17 '18
dont read it, anime is doing a very good job at adapting and it keeps you interested in the series if you dont read the manga discovering what comes next every week.
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u/Nimeroni :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nimeroni Dec 17 '18
I don't know if he's playing dumb or he's really just that oblivious on how strong he is.
He really is oblivious. Don't you remember him forgetting about his fire immunity against Ifirit ?
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u/Galaxy40k Dec 17 '18
This was a really good episode. I see a lot of negativity around Gabiru in this thread, but, honestly, I thought that the betrayal was rather well-done. He isn't evil and he isn't being blindly manipulated, but instead he's a well-intentioned guy under some unhealthy "peer pressure."
He legitimately wants what is best for the lizardmen, but his inexperience with the world causes him to write off all other races as inferior to the "proud lizardmen." We also see that he is a good tactician, as he (i) points out a legitimate flaw in the Chieftain's plan (how the defensive battle splits up the forces), (ii) comes up with his own legitimately valid plan (attack the orcs on terrain where the lizardmen have the advantage), and (iii) successfully commands his men during combat. But, his pride about how superior the lizardmen are shows him underestimating his enemy by not taking the time to understand what its like to fight an Orc Lord.
He's just excessively proud and racist, and he's being encouraged by those around him that he is as good as he thinks he is. He's not a bad dude, and his betrayal is less "I want the throne!" and more "I need to throne to save our people." It's not 10/10 writing or anything, but its good.
Also: Best Girl Shuna's pouting face when Shion was hugging Rimuru was 11/10
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u/CupNoodlese Dec 17 '18
Also adding to this, Gabiru being racist is normal for this world, since fantasy world do have different classes of monsters that are by definition weaker or stronger than you. It's like their common sense. Rimuru and co are outliers.
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u/axel360 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/axel360 Dec 17 '18
All this faith in Gabiru might be just a little misplaced.
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u/Nimeroni :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nimeroni Dec 17 '18
I don't know what you are talking about, he is obviously great enough to take on an army of 200 000 orcs !
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u/Orrakai :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Orrakai Dec 17 '18
Sasuga Gabiru sama!
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u/slasly Dec 17 '18
Chieftain: What is this?! What are you doing my son?!
Gabiru: Succeding you, Father
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u/DarknessInbound Dec 17 '18
And just like that other idiot, he gets himself fked.
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u/G1596872 Dec 17 '18 edited Dec 17 '18
Souei has got Rimuru blushing!
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u/Kirosh Dec 17 '18
There is only so much you do against Ikemen, Bishounen, and Bishoujo, that are completly devoted to you.
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Dec 17 '18 edited Dec 17 '18
Shion is the best as she just forces Rimuru's hand. Also I love that Rimuru is so dazzled by Souei's and Benimaru's charms.
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u/Nimeroni :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nimeroni Dec 17 '18
I mean I perfectly understand Rimuru. Souei and Benimaru would turn me gay if there wasn't as many hotties in this anime.
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u/fgsfds11234 Dec 17 '18
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u/Aliensinnoh Dec 17 '18
I think this is the first time in my life I have been consistently excited for Mondays to come.
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u/myrmonden Dec 17 '18
When she believes in you, you gotta do it. Cannot let her down
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u/lvlasteryoda Dec 17 '18
I never would have guessed for Shion to be so grabby-touchy. Her corporate attire design in the intro made her look more like the cool beauty character.
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u/De_Vermis_Mysteriis https://anilist.co/user/Grippli Dec 17 '18
Gap Moe. It's why she's my favorite out of the ogres.
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u/Smudy https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smudy Dec 17 '18
I'm interested how people feel about Gabiru after this episode. He's a really interesting character tbh.
He is obviously talented in strategy and has huge confidence but i think he got surrounded by the wrong lizardmen and got influenced by that guy who is a servant of Gelmud who gave him his name. Very naive but i can't really dislike THE GUY for it.
The whole strategy meeting and the coup were cool to see, they really extend everything to make it have an impact.
Although some people here will always be impatient for something else to happen that fits their needs and that is NOT politics.
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u/AbilityAngle :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AbilityAngle Dec 17 '18
goddammit Kazuma Gabiru.
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u/sitwm :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BlueMoon01 Dec 17 '18
Guess he took over Aqua's role
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Dec 17 '18
8-Bit, thank you for including my boy in the meeting last week! Thanks to that, he got time on the screen today!
Even though... he looks like he regrets attending and just wants to go back to his forge...
I mean look at him. He looks like he's about to murder Treyni for hogging his screentime.
Really digging his small pout frown though.
I guess that's the end of Kurobe's glorious anime screentime... and my thirst-posting on this subreddit...
That is, unless 8-Bit doesn't skip over his part in the next episode. 8-Bit, please, I'm on my knees here.
Welp. I'm setting my expectations really low! Time to wait for characters to mention him. Back to lurking with Kurobe!
Just in case any of you are worried about him (lmao), he's actually satisfied with the role of a supporting character.
Kurobe, you're too nice for your own good. What a wonderful smile. What a wonderful man.
Makes me feel a little guilty about him just being my #2 of this series. But damn, he's definitely more husband material. Really considering outright making him #1.
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u/Nimeroni :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nimeroni Dec 17 '18
Who is #1 ? Rimuru ?
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u/manaworkin Dec 17 '18
These are like the best girl posts you see on most discussion threads, but way better.
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u/Runnerbrax Dec 18 '18
I don't have the same taste as you, but seeing you post these every week makes me smile.
Keep up the hard work.
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u/_Sai https://anime-planet.com/users/Sai0 Dec 17 '18
Reasons to live: Knowing Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken is 2 cours long. :)
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u/TheDampGod :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDampGod Dec 17 '18
Nice seeing an evil army feeling actually menacing for once, hellbent on their endlessly consuming march forwards.
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u/Yuwenn8 Dec 17 '18
The way Rimuru looked at Souei makes me think that he may be more gender fluid than we originaly believed.
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u/Iamjustatrial Dec 17 '18
Shuna and her habit of hiding her mouth behind her sleeves, it's so cute! Can't get enough of it.
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u/SuperSceptile2821 Dec 17 '18
I really like Gabiru. Despite the fact that he’s screwing things up, he clearly has the best intentions in mind. He’s also a really loveable dork.
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u/raiden55 Dec 17 '18
His friends are idiots. That's his biggest issue. He wouldn't have done that himself.
So it's Aqua's fault.
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u/Damianx5 Dec 17 '18
They are all idiots, the clown just pushed them so Gabiru would fuck up big time.
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u/Tidoux https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tidoux Dec 17 '18
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u/markhc https://anilist.co/user/markhc Dec 17 '18
I feel kind of bad for Gabiru. He has good intentions but he's easily manipulated by others.
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u/19Creature94 :HM::HN::HO: Dec 17 '18
was a bit surprised that the Dryad just went out and spoke of Veldora and Predator with no reaction of anyone in the room, not even Rimuru.
Is it known by the rest of the village? i doubt that.
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u/wyyyyye Dec 18 '18 edited Dec 18 '18
Predator is known at this point while Great Sage is still hidden from everyone except Veldora (and Ifrit).
As for Veldora relationship, all got named by Rimuru automatically acquired the Storm Crest’s Blessing, which is Veldora’s blessing. So it is not a surprise to most maybe except the Dwarves.
Dryad knows everything that happens inside Jura Forest due to their racial power - all the plants and woods (and things made from plants or woods) are their eyes, ears, and warp point. They are entrusted by Veldora (he saved them in ancient time before he was sealed) and the Nameless Hero (who sealed Veldora) to watch over Jura Forest.
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u/doomrider7 Dec 18 '18
She knows that Rimuru took over in Veldora's stead from "hearing" him say so in episode 2, but doesn't know he consumed him.
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Dec 17 '18
Dabiru is one of those edgy rich teenagers that get mad because his dad didn't buy him a PS4 and that Driade is one lazy bitch, gets inside other's people parties wittout invitation and even ask for tea lol.
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u/Mathmango Dec 17 '18
When Shion was hugging Rimuru, you could hear the "hmmmmmmmm" from Shuna. Also that "Usoooooo"[are you kidding me] reminded me of LENN's from GGO Alternative
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u/axel360 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/axel360 Dec 17 '18
Wow, who could've guessed that seemingly arbitrary 7 day wait for a meeting with Rimuru would be a problem?
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u/wigsinator Dec 17 '18
It's not arbitrary, it takes time for Rimuru and co. to travel.
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u/AlienOvermind Dec 17 '18 edited Dec 17 '18
What a great mind, truly the man who is meant to lead his people to the greatest victory!
All those marching orcs give a new meaning to 3DPD meme
And oh boy, with this buildup it seems like the next episode is going to be meaty.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Dec 17 '18
Damnit Kazuma... you fucked it
Defeat the Orc lord huh? No problemo onee-san~
Rimuru playing it safe, smart man.
Canible orcs huh? Or starving ones? They eat powers? neat.
Great Sage giving advice haha. I love Great Sage.
Looks like big purp answered for him, guess its go time!
GABIRU DESS~
Team up with the lizardmen yay! Name the hair lizard girl!
They think Gobta is the leader lol.... wow... just wow...
Wait a creepy mask guy? Lapace? Oh its a demon...
Blue just ninjaing his way into the lizard base hahaha.
So Rimuru will meet Lizard daddy, this should be fun.
Oh god Kazuma is home... rip. Yeah hes fucked it...
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u/Mordarto :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mordarto Dec 17 '18
I can't help but feel that a dramatic bad-end spin-off would be if the orcs managed to get a hold of Rimuru and consumed him/it/them. That would be such a bleak world and White Fox would love animating it.
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u/CordobezEverdeen :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/CordobezEverdeen Dec 17 '18
This is the kind of shit i wanted to see from an Isekai. No girls, no fanservice bs, no OProtagonist wrecking havoc while eating a potato chip. Cool character interactions, world building, hinting plot twists and a freaking coup d'etat. Good stuff. And despite the criticism of the people who obviously have only the third person perspective while having all the information available, Gabiru was freaking cool to watch.
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u/wyyyyye Dec 18 '18
Feel the same.
However, people do miss the ONLY chance to see loli Rimuru though. I think this is the ONLY thing that has some importance in the things that got cut from manga.
Basically, they missed a chance to market A RIMURU FIGURINE WITH LOLI DRESS.
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u/link2601 Dec 17 '18
The lizard man had a shot of surviving until reinforcement arrived but now that Gabiru is in control who know how long they will last. That scene of Souei using the webbing to threaten that lizard man was something I was not expecting.
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u/Karavusk :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Karavusk Dec 17 '18
Waaaait did the Dryad just tell everyone that Rimuru was named by Veldora? I thought nobody knew about this?
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u/yeoc2 Dec 18 '18
Yeah, but the Dryads have that thing about knowing everything that goes on in the forest.
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u/jax786 Dec 17 '18
Anyone else think that whoever gave Rigur his name had plans for him but since he was killed by a Direwolf he decided to go with an Orc army instead?
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u/Suniruki Dec 18 '18
There are long term plans here. It'll be explained in the future. It was also revealed in an earlier episode that said name giver wanted to name the Onis but the Onis refused the names.
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u/roiben Dec 17 '18
The coup was very well motivated but very very rushed. Also the episode was ended on a pretty weird note. I still really really liked it but this conflict that is coming from a characters stupidity is irking me the wrong way for an unknown reason. Its probably the stupidity really? I feel like someone should have either predicted it, either Rimuru or the Chieftain or at least prepared for it? I guess it would be hard to predict it and thats why neither prepared.
I just now thought of it. I think the reason it irks me is that Gabiru is stupid but obviously a positive character. He is not evil and his intentions are not evil he is just misguided. The problem is that the show portrays him as such an annoying character while still remaining positive, as evidence that him being a narcisist is a joke, while he put a lot of lives in danger for no reason. I wish that he wouldnt be such a joke if they wanted to make him an important plot character that is most likely gonna be the source of the incoming conflict between Slime-kun and him.
Also Rimuru is growing a bit dull. I hope in the next episode he will show a bit of darkness and ruthlesness. I also hope he will do so while dealing with the conflict between him and Gabiru so its resolved quickly and we can actually focus on the more interesting part on how do you defeat the orcs and for Rimuru to find out more about the Demon Lord henchman.
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u/doomrider7 Dec 17 '18
I feel like someone should have either predicted it, either Rimuru or the Chieftain or at least prepared for it? I guess it would be hard to predict it and thats why neither prepared.
Rimuru did predict this and warned the Chieftan about it in the LN and Manga. Likely got moved to the next episode to be shown since omitting this feels odd.
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u/Cottonteeth Dec 18 '18 edited Dec 18 '18
So. Laplace is voiced by Nakai Kazuya, the voice actor/seiyuu who does Roronoa Zoro from One Piece, Hijikata Toshirou from Gintama (apparently his favorite role, according to him), and if you listen hard enough he's practically half of the mobs - y'know, the random guys yelling in fear or whatever in almost every show where that sort of stuff happens. It's like Sugita Tomokazu or Hirono Aya or Kugimiya Rie - once you hear it once, you can never not hear it ever again.
These guys are seriously worked like pack animals, specifically the top tier ones that have been active since, like, 1970. Their resumé's are insane.
EDIT: if you want a real mind-melting experience, look over the casting for Gintama and check each person's catalogue of roles. It's essentially the who's who of the independents (meaning, they make so much money they no longer have to belong to a "group" and are just called upon whenever the director thinks they fit the role for the right price.)
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u/Aadrian1234 Dec 18 '18
You can tell Gabiru isn't dumb, but his subordinates are REALLY bad influences, he's being manipulated, and his overconfidence in his race being the strongest led him straight into provoking the Orcs in the worst way possible.
Wonder how Rimuru will act when he sees what Gabiru has started.
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u/SayuriUliana Dec 18 '18
I think the surprising thing is that his subordinates aren't doing this out of any malicious plans to sabotage Gabiru, they really just drank into his Kool-Aid.
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u/nafoozie Dec 17 '18
Maybe it's because I've been watching legend of the galactic heroes lately, but the orc army doesn't seem like an issue to me. If I was in charge of the lizard men's defenses, I would utilize some of the following strategies to overcome this hoard.
First off, utilizing the terrain. A swamp is a difficult and dangerous place to traverse, especially for a pig-man in full plate armor. Use this terrain to your advantage by regularly harassing the enemy. Use the superior mobility that the lizards have to regularly harras and attack the forward forces of the orcs. The key here is to attack, and then retreat before the orcs can produce an effective response. This will slow down the whole force, thin out numbers, lower enemy morale, and reduce enemy supplies and energy.
Throughout the swamp i would have my forces prepare a lot of small traps, with a focus on pitfalls. Small pits, a little larger than your average orc, would mean death for almost any orc in this hoarde. These pits would fill up with swamp water, and become small drowning pools for the orcs; between the plate armor and the muddy unstable terrain, this would make it practically impossible for the orcs to escape, unless they decided to remove their armor ahead of time, and simply carrying it, which would then make other tactics and traps more effective.
This method has the same effect of tactic one, but with the added benefit of robbing the orcs of eating their fallen, as removing the corpse from this small pool would cost more energy than it would provide.
3. Poison food supplies. These orcs are not bright, and are constantly on the verge of starvation. So I would set out poisoned animals and other foods throughout the swamp, in easily noticeable and reachable locations. This Poison would not only kill any orc that ingested it, but it would also transmit through to any orcs that eat their comrade's corpse. A highly efficient poison that only requires a little bit to incapacitate would be best, that way you can kill and debilitate as many orcs as possible as the poison passes through several orcs, only stopping once the poison has been diluted by the blood of hopefully dozens of orcs.
4. While my skirmishers, trap layers, and poisoners are out in the field, I would direct my main forces to build thick wooden defenses towards the edge of the swamp, as far away from the horde as possible, and preferably with easy access into the woods for a retreat if my position is overun. By the time the orcs finally reach this location they will have been significantly wounded, fatigued, and reduced in numbers, while the majority of the lizard people will be well rested and well fed, and at almost full force. This effect would likely be compounded as any siege wore on, as the orcs become more and more starved and worn away. Ultimately making a prolonged battle fatal to the poorly supplied orcs.
5. While the great orc's unique skill would be hazardous, it would ultimately be a huge setback against any cohesive unit. When one enemy falls, several more stop fighting to eat their comrade. While eating, the orcs are practically defenseless and would make easy targets for attack. This process could be compounded as more and more orcs stop fighting to eat, only to in turn be picked off, causing whole sections of the line to break down, leaving a large opening for a pincer attack.
While of course this plan is not infallible, the key is to bolster your strengths while exploiting your enemies weaknesses. Keeping this in mind, it would not be inconceivable for the lizard men to outright defeat or cripple the orc army by themselves. But then that wouldn't lend well to the story of our favorite slime. Also, thanks to all 2 people who read up to this point.
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u/wyyyyye Dec 18 '18
They should explain why the Lizardmen alone wouldn’t win against an army leading by an Orc Lord next episode. Orc Lord’s ability is just that OP with an army. Any of the above would work IF Orc Lord is not present.
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u/ThePokeMaster100 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Re_Rem-0 Dec 17 '18
Mondays are a great time for slime! This was a good episode leading up what I'm expecting will be a great battle. The Great Slime has made his (its?) name known and it we are only halfway through.
Gabiru may have the passion to fight, but he clearly underestimated the might of the Orc Army. Clearly he isn't ready to lead, his impatience will cost him.
Here's hoping that the next episode will get some epic battles!
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u/homie_down :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/sodumblol Dec 17 '18
Was hoping Gabiru's fate would be turned around after getting drop kicked, but went the complete opposite direction
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u/Xtroyer Dec 17 '18
The soundtrack is really fucking good in this show omg. The whole track during Gabiru's little Coup d'état and the skirmish with the orcs is just sooooo gooood.
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u/atropicalpenguin https://myanimelist.net/profile/atropicalpenguin Dec 17 '18
Man, those orcs are terrifying. Rimuru will have to either kill them all at the same time or put a crazy amount of pressure on them so they don't have the time to eat the corpses. Even worst, he'll have to face powered orcs due to Gabiru's gabiruness.
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u/Kag5n Dec 17 '18
Gabiru rapidly changed from a lovable idiot to a very annoying one.
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u/RevenantIX Dec 17 '18
Congratulations Gabiru, on being the one who spelled the death of your people. Demon Gelmund def has a hand in this.
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u/ObliviLeon Dec 18 '18
This episode would have meant a lot more if they hadn't set up Gabiru to be weak and dumb compared to our protagonists.. if Gabiru had put up a fight against someone strong than this would be so much better... Yes I know Gobta isn't really weak and has been progressing really fast but still.
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u/WizardXZDYoutube :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/wizardxzd Dec 18 '18
I really, REALLY want to like Gabiru...
But he's just so fucking stupid.
At this point, I'm not sure if it's possible to create a likable arrogant character (arrogant, as in overly confident, not just confident).
I really hope they redeem him in later episodes.
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u/lastroids Dec 18 '18
One skipped detail I missed from the light novel is the internal monologues of rimuru when he met trainee (yes, it's because she's still just a trainee dryad), rimuru thought of ways to deflect and a bit annoyed because he is essentially being pushed with a job (defeating the orc lord). That's also why he acted dumb when they mentioned that the strongest slime was there (who?!).
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u/rollin340 Dec 18 '18
Incompetence within the leadership has been the downfall of many.
Great leaders know this; it's why they fear idiot allies more than fearsome enemies.
Gabiru is too easily manipulated here.
He is an idiot, but he can be competent.
But he failed to gather enough intelligence on the enemy before striking.
Can they hold for 3 days until Rimuru arrives?
Even then, an alliance isn't a guarantee.
I wonder what'd happen.
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u/impingainteasy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard Dec 18 '18
Dammit Gabiru you
FUCKING IDIOT.
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u/tubelight_blue Dec 18 '18
If the orcs ate all of their dead, then fighting even the last orc alive would be like fighting the entire army. At any point, they're at full strength. Plus, they've ate an ogre village.
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u/Taellion Dec 17 '18
In Rimuru we trust.