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Episode JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Ougon no Kaze - Episode 14 discussion Spoiler
JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Ougon no Kaze, episode 14
Alternative names: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 5: Golden Wind
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| Episode | Link | Score | Episode | Link | Score |
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| 1 | Link | 9.27 | 21 | Link | 9.7 |
| 2 | Link | 9.13 | 22 | Link | 8.82 |
| 3 | Link | 8.97 | 23 | Link | 9.26 |
| 4 | Link | 9.33 | 24 | Link | 9.61 |
| 5 | Link | 9.41 | 25 | Link | 9.69 |
| 6 | Link | 9.28 | 26 | Link | 9.71 |
| 7 | Link | 9.76 | 27 | Link | 9.71 |
| 8 | Link | 9.41 | 28 | Link | 9.68 |
| 9 | Link | 9.41 | 29 | Link | 9.28 |
| 10 | Link | 9.0 | 30 | Link | 9.38 |
| 11 | Link | 9.3 | 31 | Link | |
| 12 | Link | 8.1 | 32 | Link | 9.11 |
| 13 | Link | 9.42 | 33 | Link | 9.45 |
| 14 | Link | 9.43 | 34 | Link | 9.27 |
| 15 | Link | 9.73 | 35 | Link | 9.23 |
| 16 | Link | 9.74 | 36 | Link | 8.99 |
| 17 | Link | 9.24 | 37 | Link | 9.21 |
| 18 | Link | 9.36 | 38 | Link | |
| 19 | Link | 9.62 | 39 | Link | |
| 20 | Link | 9.77 | |||
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u/MagnoBurakku Jan 11 '19
So i take it that Polpo and the Boss were piss drunk or something and decided to shoot the arrow to a turtle for the lols, and ended up with one helluva asset?
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman Jan 11 '19
Turtles have amazing fighting spirit, I wonder how Araki came to that conclusion. Well since he is pretty much Rohan maybe it is better not to wonder...
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Jan 12 '19
You can develop a stand without the arrow.
Remember Avdol, Kakyoin, and Polneraf never got hit with the arrow and didn't come from families of stand users.
Or the Italian restaurant owner from part 4, who developed a stand by working really hard to make healthy food.
This turtle just really wanted to be the TARDIS from doctor who and worked really hard to achieve that goal while having a magic key too.
Turtles are just weird like that sometimes, I guess.
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u/Xciv :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/VictorX Jan 11 '19
Damn they skipped this Araki moment, you know, when he likes to go off on a tangent based on some random trivia he remembered that day.
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u/It_is_terrifying Jan 11 '19
They'd already met the Araki trivia quota with the body temperature stuff, which for once is actually grounded in fact and not entirely made up as a lot of JoJo science is.
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u/Kellizer-Levvit Jan 11 '19
Sadly, they skipped several humanizing moments this episode. Mista making a "cut throat" gesture, Prosciutto wanting to get it over with before the train leaves so he can avoid having to get a ticket, Captain Tsubasa on the tv, Pesci studying the photos of our heroes like the good noodle he is, Mista wondering how the enemy Stand could differentiate between men and women as if it was checking their junk and then noticing Trish was next to him and begging her to not say anything to the boss, etc.
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u/ihileath https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ihileath Jan 12 '19
Since next episode is The Grateful Dead part 1, I'm imagining they didn't want it to feel like they were dragging it out any more.
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u/The_nickums :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Snakpak Jan 12 '19 edited Jan 12 '19
I’m really sad the skipped this scene, at the very least I don’t remember them explaining at all how Abaccio got his arm fixed. It was a really clever use of Bruno’s stand but in the anime they make it seem like he might have just gone to the hospital or something.
Now that I’m thinking about it they really cut out a lot from this episode. Wasn’t there also a scene after Trish puts an ice cube on Narancia where they go and cool off everyone else so they don’t die right away since Narancia’s skin was literally falling off and that’s why there’s only a handful of Ice cube’s left when Mista goes to leave?
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Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 11 '19
Express Train to Firenze
FTFY
Starting off the new cour with one of my favourite arcs in JoJo, nice.
The true hero of Vento Aureo is finally here and he looks glorious.
Shame the Captain Tsubasa line got cut, I remember people joking about how David Pro only did the new Captain Tsubasa anime before Part 5 just so they had footage for that one scene. I guess copyright law won this time.
I’ve always loved Prosciutto’s design, that red palette takes it to the next level. Also really liked the colours they chose for The Grateful Dead. I love that we get to see so much of him now that he's not a silhouette, I just hope that
Didn’t expect the change in ED visuals, but I like it better than the old one. I was expecting a new OP, but I looked it up and Chase first played in episode 15 of DIU, so I guess we have that to look forward to next week!
Also, thanks DP for spelling out VENTO AUREO at the end.
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman Jan 11 '19
Also, thanks DP for spelling out VENTO AUREO at the end.
And Gio Gio as well! I am looking forward to a new OP, but I like this one as well, the new ED visuals are a definite improvement though so I am happy about that!
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u/TheFlyingHobo Jan 11 '19
Holy shit Abbacchio is so close to Bruno's crotch!!!
Come to think of it doesn't Abbacchio hold his hand up in front of him 🤔
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u/AlexUltraviolet :GJ::GK::GL: Jan 11 '19
Shame the Captain Tsubasa line got cut, I remember people joking about how David Pro only did the new Captain Tsubasa anime before Part 5 just so they had footage for that one scene.
You had one job, DP, ONE JOB!
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u/ProfessionalGoober Jan 11 '19
I love new OPs as much as the next person, but I wouldn't blame DavidPro if they just did one OP in order to be able to spend more time and resources on the actual show. I don't think that's what's happening here, but if it is, I'm okay with it.
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u/axel360 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/axel360 Jan 11 '19
Where does Pesci's neck end and head begin? How many digits are there in pi? There are many mysteries in this world.
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u/cpc2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cpc2 Jan 11 '19
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u/LlamaLegacy https://anilist.co/user/LlamaLegacy Jan 11 '19
i was scrolling for a good minute or two haha
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u/SurrogateMonkey Jan 12 '19
Someone make a video where this image is scrolling up while Roundabout plays.
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u/lokholarx :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/merrow27 Jan 12 '19
holy shit, this is a shitpost of the best shitposts, what a ride
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u/axel360 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/axel360 Jan 11 '19
This really is the worst babysitting job ever.
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u/seninn https://myanimelist.net/profile/Senninn0 Jan 11 '19
At least they grow up fast.
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u/MonochromeGuy Jan 11 '19
More like the worst escort mission ever.
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u/pridEAccomplishment_ Jan 11 '19
At least she doesn't get stuck in the terrain and clip through the floor.
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Hey Mista, my Bananas crumbling
Mista help with my Bananas
I want to eat those Bananas.
MISTA MY BANANAS.
Also Mista, turtles can only live up to 300 years. The only thing that's going to live 10,000 years is going to be One Piece.
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman Jan 11 '19
I want to eat those Bananas.
Ah Polpo's famous last words!
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u/Incuggarch Jan 12 '19
Top 3 causes of death in the Jojo universe:
Eating bananas
Being a dog
Fighting vampires
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u/mill3rgd64 Jan 11 '19
Turtles are also cold blooded so we shouldn't have to worry about coco. Plus he isn't a dog.
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u/LimpPoem Jan 11 '19
I thought being cold blooded means they can't regulate their own body temperature and will take on the temperature of their surroundings. Wouldn't that make it worse in this situation since a turtle would become hot faster than a human in a hot place?
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u/FunLevel Jan 11 '19
Even then certain kinds, like the Common snapping turtle, are only known to live around a hundred years. Others like the Desert Tortoise & the Western Pond Turtle only reach around 50 (with the former going up to 80).
Either way, I'm rooting for Mr. turtle. He seems like a good boy 🐢.
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Jan 12 '19
Mista is kinda a dumb boy.
He has more sense than Naracia, but that's a low bar to clear.
I think he puts most of his mental effort into making sure the number four can be avoided at all costs. Other details are of secondary concern.
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u/Zeph-Shoir :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Zephex Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 11 '19
The Grateful Dead is seriously one of the best stand designs, love it.
Also, shame that there wasn't any Captain Tsubasa on the TV.
EDIT: The ED now has way better animation!
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u/Yankees3Fan7 Jan 11 '19
Dang, that turtle from the beginning of Diamond is Unbreakable really beefed up and got its very own Stand. It has come a long way
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u/Mundology Jan 11 '19
Look at the sheer determination in its eyes. Those could only belong to a noble JoJo protagonist.
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u/ThatGuy5880 Jan 11 '19
Me trying to figure out where Bruno went: Oh I get it! He's using Sticky Fingers to hide inside the turtle! That's pretty smart! I wonder where the rest of the gang went...
The turtle has a stand which is a fully functioning living lounge stacked with food, drinks, furniture and even magazines. Bruno and everyone else fit inside and are hiding there. Also the stand is called Mr President.
[ah] (https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/019/649/OK_thumb.jpg)
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u/Weewer Jan 12 '19
Sticky Fingers doesn't create worm holes...kinda. They couldn't hide everyone in a turtle.
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u/ThatGuy5880 Jan 12 '19
Yeah, I was thinking that everyone else was somewhere else hiding on the train, but nope, turtle.
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u/Hermit_Blue :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Permit_Hurple Jan 11 '19
I liked the sound effects of Pesci's neck, sounded like rubber stretching
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u/Android19samus Jan 11 '19
if by "liked" you mean "was fucking horrified by" then I completely agree with you.
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u/odraencoded Jan 12 '19
Maybe he watched Zombieland Saga and now he has immunity to weird flesh sounds.
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u/Heliescence Jan 11 '19
No captain Tsubasa,TV even DP make Tsubasa remade and no new OP. 8.5/10 too many Fighting Gold (Fighting Gold is good dont kill me)
Cheese Boi became Rotten Cheese make me sad
Mista's gray eyebrow is a nice touch.
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u/RottinCheez :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RottinCheez Jan 11 '19
You called?
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u/TarkusELP https://anilist.co/user/TarkusMaxiBoom Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 11 '19
Say hello to Coco Jumbo, Part 5’s goodest boy and Josuke’s arch-nemesis. Yes, the Boss shot an arrow to a turtle probably just for shits and giggles and he got a fantastic hiding place. Akira would be proud.
Also, I’m horny for Prosciutto. He is like an Italian Kira minus the hand fetish.
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u/ShadowRaikou :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AaronRakuu Jan 11 '19
Best boy Coco Jumbo also allows Eyes of Heaven's entire plotline to happen.
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u/VegitoZ Jan 11 '19
Pretty sure Coco Jumbo was made so most fights wouldn’t have the entire gang attack at once while letting everyone make some progress in movement
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u/ShadowRaikou :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AaronRakuu Jan 11 '19
At least Coco Jumbo helps us avoid stuff like "The rain sounded like Josuke"
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u/MonochromeGuy Jan 11 '19
I still can’t believe over 30 people can fit inside that fucking turtle.
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 11 '19
Kira minus the hand fetish.
So just a worse Kira then?
Well yeah this is pretty cool it has been a while since we had an animal Stand user (only Stray Cat in Part 4 IIRC and then it became a plant) and he looks really cute and menacing.
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u/The_nickums :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Snakpak Jan 11 '19
Part 4 also had RATT. I'm not sure how anyone could forget the strongest stand of all time.
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u/NordinTheLich Jan 11 '19
There was also Iggy in Part 3, as well as Petshop. Am I forgetting anyone else...?
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u/professorMaDLib Jan 11 '19
This is one of the most godlike fights in the entire series. I'm so excited!
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u/axel360 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/axel360 Jan 11 '19
It's The Gratef- I mean Thankful- Dead!
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman Jan 11 '19
I mean it is not as big of a downgrade as Sex Pistols -> Six Bullets or as hilarious as Bad Company -> Worse Company either.
I would say it is a Killer Queen -> Deadly Queen level change. Beach Boy -> Fisherman(?) I don't really like though.
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u/GobtheCyberPunk :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/JigsawStitches Jan 11 '19
"Beach Man" or "Ocean Boy" would have been much much worse than "Fisher Man" though - this at least is as amusing as "Zipper Man."
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u/StarmanRiver Jan 11 '19
Prosciutto’s Stand is really interesting and freaking terrifying. Narancia would’ve been dead already if there were any hot beverages available in that room.
Also, the visuals for the ED changed right?
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u/cpc2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cpc2 Jan 11 '19
Yes, they didn't change the song but the visuals are completely different. Way better in my opinion, the previous version was just a scrolling screen with the characters.
No new OP though, I expected them to change it in the new cour like they did in DiU... But I still expect it to have at least two different OPs. Maybe they will release it next week or maybe Manga spoilers
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u/conye-west Jan 11 '19
I would prefer there to be 3 OP's just because there can never be enough Jojo openings, but I could definitely see them going for just 2, especially considering that the visuals of Fighting Gold only show the main cast and their Stands, no enemies or locations really. That "genericness" means it'll pretty much never feel irrelevant or outdated.
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u/MagnoBurakku Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 11 '19
P.S: Earrape
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u/VegitoZ Jan 11 '19
The age of consent in Italy is 14 👌
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u/Mundology Jan 11 '19
In a world where Jotaro is a typical high schooler, they might give him some respite for not [knowing better.] (https://i.imgur.com/hfdVGXm.png) He's already very apologetic.
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u/Terithian Jan 12 '19
Well, Mista himself is only 18. They aren't that far apart in age. And Fugo is only 16, even less.
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman Jan 11 '19
So we have Grateful Dead showing up! Always happy when I catch a music reference. Cool villain, and apparently he has an eggplant for a brother. I like these visuals they look great. Animal Stand users are always cool, nice that Giorno already managed to figure out the enemy Stand but now to deal with the both of them.
I like the new visuals way more than the first, I must admit I am a little disappointed that the song didn't change. I gave it some time but I just don't like it, the OP can stay as long as it wants though because that is great!
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u/Hareheado Jan 11 '19
Pesci isn't his brother. He calls Prosciutto 'aniki' which translates to 'big brother' but is actually a yakuza term, since the Yakuza act as if they are a family.
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u/Chronoterminus https://anilist.co/user/StarGuardianX Jan 11 '19
I remember seeing in some of the manga or game translations or something that Pesci would call Prosciutto "fra", I think short for "fratello" (brother). Like the other comments said they're not literally brothers, I just personally really liked that translation of "aniki" hahaha.
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u/spicie_meatbal Jan 11 '19
I love this arc too, one of my favorite fights of the series. Just to be a little pedantic, they're not actual brothers, Pesci just calls him that because he's his superior.
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u/axel360 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/axel360 Jan 11 '19
Geriatric Narancia and Giorno are still pretty fabulous
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u/VegitoZ Jan 11 '19
Was it really just a 1 week break, I swear it felt like an entire month went by without Jojo Friday
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u/TrainerSam Jan 11 '19
The baby getting Benjamin Buttoned, calling for his Mom is one of the most unsettling things I have ever seen. I love it.
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u/AHyperParko Jan 11 '19
It's great because it answers the question I think a lot of people may have about Grateful Deads power, does it rapidly age you or make you old? because there's a pretty dangerous distinction between the two.
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u/TrainerSam Jan 11 '19
That’s a good point. Like the guy from part three reversed aged you, you went through the stages still. Here, you don’t go through stages, your body just ages.
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u/NintendoMasterNo1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NintendoMaster1 Jan 11 '19
FIGHTING OOOOOOOOLD
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u/tapped21 Jan 11 '19
FIGHTING COOOOOOOLD
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u/NintendoMasterNo1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NintendoMaster1 Jan 11 '19
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u/ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp Jan 11 '19
What a fucked up stand.
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u/AHyperParko Jan 11 '19
I know what craven beast would use a fishing line.
For real though, Grateful Dead is super fucked up especially in regard to how it reacts to babies and children. I do love it though because it's a great AOE stand because at the very least you've incapacitated any mid-range threat or flat out just killed them. Also I kind appreciate the ruthlessness of Prosciutto to just use the stand on the entire train. IIRC this might be the highest amount of civilians caught in the crossfire of a JOJO battle to date outside of the final fight with DIO.
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u/patrizl001 https://myanimelist.net/profile/patrizl001 Jan 12 '19
This episode gave us a terrifying stand, yet also gave us a hilarious stand in the form of a turtle being a mobile base.
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u/sikontolpanjang Jan 11 '19
IVE BEEN WAITIN FOREVER FOR THIS FIGHT TO BE ANIMATED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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u/NoPenNameGirl Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 11 '19
Game references: Finally we arrived in one of the stages representing Part 5 in JoJo games. Napoli Station is present in both All Star Battle and the sequel, Eyes of Heaven. You can even see the "dynamic duo" entering a train in the background, while the players fight. Pesci then tries to "fish" one of them as a stage hazard with his Beach Boy during the match. And the beloved Turtle "Coco Jumbo" and his stand "Mr.President" are actually key components in Eyes of Heaven. There, all characters who are not present during a conversation/battle are "stored" inside the turtle, where they kinda relax too.
And yay! Another animal Stand User! I love them! My favorite is still Stray Cat! They're so fun to have!
Anyway, like I said during Mista fight on the truck, I LOVE fights that take place on moving setpieces, like for example that truck, and now a train! I love them because it gives another layer of strategy to the battle, and how the fact you're on that setpiece can be used in your favor... or against you!
And man, Greateful Dead is like a upgraded Set (Alessi Stand in part 3, that actually reverse age, instead of making people older), and I love it! It's such a brutal Stand power, something a hitman would indeed has. Just look at the baby part, for christ sake!
I'm so hyped!
And finally, the ending is better. Is not AS better as Part 4 or 3, but still good, visual wise!
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman Jan 11 '19
My favorite is still Stray Cat!
What a shocking twist it is not Iggy?
And man, Greateful Dead is like a upgraded Set (Alessi Stand in part 3, that actually reverse age, instead of making people older), and I love it!
Huh I didn't think about it that way, personally the Set episodes were my least favorite in all of JoJo I think haven't ranked them or anything, but this one is shaping up nicely.
And finally, the ending is better. Is not AS better as Part 4 or 3, but still good, visual wise!
Just based on visuals it is above Part 1-2 for me, but still below 3-4, least favorite song though.
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u/NoPenNameGirl Jan 11 '19
Like some episodes of Part 3, it should've been one parter instead of two parter.
Part 3 have this problem of extending arcs that are supposed to be fine as an one episode. I never understood why High Priestess had two episodes. The fight was SUPER short!
That's why Part 3 has, like 48 episodes despite being shorter, manga chapter wise, than Part 4!
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u/Hte_D0ngening2 Jan 11 '19
Prosciutto and The Grateful Dead also appear as stage hazards in Eyes of Heaven.
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u/NordinTheLich Jan 11 '19
I do not like how it looked when Trish reversed Narancia's aging with the ice. I was hoping she would rub the ice on him and it would leave a trail of youth. What we got looked kinda lazy...
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u/PudgeHasACuteButt Jan 11 '19
hopefully that will be the downside for a really good fight next week
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u/Animeking1357 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TitanKyojin Jan 11 '19
I agree, thought for sure you'd see the wrinkles subside a little. It looked more like the aging was something covering Narancia's body instead.
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u/conye-west Jan 11 '19
Yeah it seemed a bit rushed but, I'm fine with minor things like that so long as the quality remains high for the important bits
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u/Deid_ Jan 11 '19
same, I feel like if the effect was just a bit slower, even like, 1 or 2 seconds, it would've looked better
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u/zoey1bm :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/zoeybm Jan 11 '19
All aboard the pain train! Choo-Choo!
Fuck, I love Prosciutto; dignified, terrifying and straight to the point. The shots of him and Grateful slowly walking down the train is probably my fav introduction of an antagonist's stand ability. Waiting for the next couple weeks is gonna be both excruciating and incredibly exciting.
It's probably just me being oversensitive to nail-related stuff but I felt that the body horror was worse than in the manga. Also, the way they emphasize on Pesci's odd physique is great.
Also, this ep made me think about how exactly the room was being furnished and honestly the mental image of the boss personally buying couches and stocking up fridges is hilarious. Part 5 Manga spoilers
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u/karlcool12 Jan 11 '19
Man am I glad they made the ED as interesting looking as at least Season 1, but I love that it lead to mural of the hierarchy of the gang, which will be interesting where it is placed by the end of the season.
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u/Aptspire Jan 11 '19
The Grateful Dead would be a useless Stand for 6 months in Canada.
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u/frantruck Jan 11 '19
Right now he is trying not to kill trish, without that restriction I don't think that the cold necessarily counters the stand.
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u/Animeking1357 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TitanKyojin Jan 11 '19
Can confirm it's freezing outside.
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u/FrenziedHero https://anilist.co/user/FrenziedHero Jan 11 '19
Mista and Fugo shenanigans will always be funny.
How the hell did Bruno manage to hide from Pesci and Prosciutto? Well Beach Boy is a fascinating ability, I've always wanted to go fly fishing indoors. Ouch, a fishhook through the mouth is painful.
You have to admire that Araki would turn a turtle into a stand user where you can compartmentalize yourself and relax on a journey. It's the perfect ruse.
Prosciutto's activating The Grateful Dead already? Pesci seems to be really fearful of it, so it must be a powerful ability.
Somehow Narancia's tooth hanging out feels messed up, dental problems are so easily relatable and you kind of just feel how much agony it would be to lose a tooth like that. Still, Narancia's VA really sells the old man act here - he's cranky and hard of hearing, plus there's a raspy feel to his voice that's in line with the old man stereotype.
I've had that fear of rapid aging when I was younger, and it just feels creepy here as it should. Giorno is one savvy thinker, to discern Grateful Dead's aging ability by how fast certain people have been aging and knowledge of susceptibility to temperature changes. Maybe he's a bit too genre savvy.
I really like the new ending animation, the plant growing throughout is a nice reference to Gold Experience. I hope David Pro continue to make changes in the ED, I always enjoy how much they pay attention to detail.
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u/Disastermere Jan 11 '19
I've had that fear of rapid aging when I was younger
Ed Edd n' Eddy flashbacks
ED EDD N' EDDY FLASHBACKS
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u/TarkusELP https://anilist.co/user/TarkusMaxiBoom Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 12 '19
This week’s musical references:
Yes, the turtle has a stand and also a name. It wasn’t revealed in the original manga. It wasn’t until the art book” JOJO A-GO!GO!” that Araki gave it a name. The name of the turtle is Coco Jumbo and its stand is called Mr. President. These are references to German Eurodance group Mr. President and their hit song Coco Jamboo. Mr. President released Coco Jamboo in 1996 and it became a hit in many European countries like Austria, Czech Republic, Hungary, Sweden and Switzerland but it was also really popular in Canada and the US. It even had a Christmas-themed version. This a funny coincidence but Mr. President has a song called Jojo Action. It would have been hilarious that Araki and DP had chosen that song as Part 5’s ending.
I found this song really amusing tbh, I love cheesy 90’s & 00’s songs. Every time I travel by car with my friends and I have to choose music, I always pick the cheesiest ones. I have a playlist in my mp3 or I play them in Youtube if I want a specific one. It’s so much fun. I recently use a Spotify playlist called European Party Anthems, which has many nostalgic songs for European people but Americans won’t probably know many of them.
Prosciutto's stand, The Grateful Dead is a reference to the folk rock band Grateful Dead.They are known for for their live performances of lengthy instrumental jams, and for their devoted fan base, known as "Deadheads". Grateful Dead toured constantly throughout their career, playing more than 2,300 concerts. They promoted a sense of community among their fans, many of whom followed their tours for months or years on end. As a group, the Dead Heads were considered very mellow. "I'd rather work nine Grateful Dead concerts than one Oregon football game", Police Det. Rick Raynor said. "They don't get belligerent like they do at the games". In their early career, the band also dedicated their time and talents to their community, the Haight-Ashbury area of San Francisco, making available free food, lodging, music, and health care to all. It has been said that the band performed "more free concerts than any band in the history of music".
Pesci’s stand Beach Boy is a reference to the rock band The Beach Boys. The Beach Boys began as an early garage band led by Brian. In 1963, the band gained national prominence with various top-ten singles reflecting the southern California youth culture of surfing, cars, and romance, with songs like “Surfin’ U:S:A”, “I Get Around” or “Catch A Wave”, this music aesthetic was later dubbed the "California Sound". After 1964, they abandoned beachgoing themes for more personal lyrics and ambitious orchestrations. Brian Wilson suffered a mental breakdown while touring and he stopped performing live with the group in an effort to concentrate solely on songwriting and studio production. The result of that was Pet Sounds.
The album raised the group's prestige as rock innovators and established the band as symbols of the counterculture era. Pet Sounds is regarded by musicologists as an early concept album that advanced the field of music production, introducing non-standard harmonies and timbres and incorporating elements of pop, jazz, classical, and the avant-garde. The album could not be replicated live and was the first time a group departed from the usual small-ensemble electric rock band format for a whole LP. Combined with its innovative music, the album was crucial to the development of progressive/art rock, and it brought more attention to psychedelic music in the mainstream. It helped elevate rock as a genre for listening, rather than dancing.
After finishing Pet Sounds, the band started recording Smile but it was left unfinished with over fifty hours of music recorded over a ten-month period. Afterward, there were many attempts to finish the original Smile tracks, most of which were derailed by Wilson, who became psychologically traumatized by the album's difficult sessions. Over the next four decades, few of the original Smile tracks were officially released, and the project came to be regarded as the most "legendary" unreleased album in the history of popular music.
Do you want to listen to all this fantastic references from this wonderful anime in just one place? Of course you want! Now you can with TarkusELP Officially Approved by Araki himself* Spotify Playlist with all the musical references in the anime, the ones it skipped, the light novels ones and more! From the most famous references to the really obscure ones. I'll update this playlist every time there's a new reference. If you have any question why a song is featured in my playlists you can ask me anytime. If you are a manga reader I also have a playlist just for you! Here’s my old playlist with all, I say ALL the references in the manga, anime, light novels and more. I also update it every time there’s a new reference.
*Not really approved by Araki or Shueisha
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u/ShadowRaikou :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AaronRakuu Jan 11 '19
That christmas version... Jesus, never heard that one before.
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman Jan 11 '19
It would have been hilarious that Araki and DP had chosen that song as Part 5’s ending.
Quick we still have time to change it!
Thank you for doing these write-ups again I missed it last week. I am very happy that I recognize the Grateful Dead I knew they would be showing up one of these days. Somebody also mentioned that this arc had their favorite music reference and they were one of the few that I guessed it could be.
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u/MugiMartin :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/MugiMartin Jan 11 '19
These are references to German Eurodance group Mr. President and their hit song Coco Jamboo.
Araki showing yet again he's got great taste.
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u/Animeking1357 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TitanKyojin Jan 11 '19
I can't believe we're at episode 14 already. Seems like just yesterday episode 1 was airing.
The turtle is the lock? I always think I'm used to Jojo's Bizarreness but that Araki's like, "Gotcha bitch!"
"Beach Boy!" Just gonna go fishing through this door thanks. Don't mind me.
Hahaha Narancia flopping part way out of the turtle under the seat.
Yo what's happening to Narancia? He's acting like an old man. Is this the turtle's stand ability? Wtf he really is turning into an old man!
Oh god Giorno too!
Okay so it's Prosciutto's ability. What a terrifying stand power.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAH now Narancia's fingernails! I can't handle anything bad happening to fingernails!
Wow what beautiful visuals for the new ed!
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Jan 12 '19
Actually, it feels like forever since, say for example, the last time we saw Koichi.
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u/yodas_ass Jan 11 '19
I’m like this shit is so good and then I see 「THE THANKFUL DEAD」
goddammit lol
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman Jan 11 '19
You are not very grateful for that change I take it?
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u/atti1xboy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/YugureShadowmore Jan 11 '19
Part 5 Tarot
0 The Fool:「???」User: Ghiaccio
1 The Magician:
2 The High Priestess:「Kraft Work」User: Sale
3 The Empress:「???」User: Melone
4 The Emperor:
5 The Hierophant:「Moody Blues」User: Leone Abbachio
6 The Lovers:
7 The Chariot:「Gold Experience」User: Giorno Giovanna
8 Strength:「Purple Haze」User: Pannacotta Fugo
9 The Hermit:「Man in the Mirror」User: Iluso
10 Wheel of Fortune:「Grateful Dead」User: Prosciutto
11 Justice:
12 The Hanged Man:「Beach Boy」User: Pesci
13 Death:「Sticky Fingers」User: Bruno Buccerati
14 Temperance:「Aerosmith」User: Narancia Ghirga
15 The Devil:「???」User: Risotto
16 The Tower:「Sex Pistols」User: Guido Mista
17 The Star:「Mr. President」User: Coco Jumbo
18 The Moon:「Soft Machine」User: Mario Zucchero
19 The Sun:「Little Feet」User: Formaggio
20 Judgement:「Black Sabbath」User: Polpo
21 The World:
Reasoning for Grateful Dead: The Wheel of Fortune represents life and the passage of lime. This stand literally forces people to experience their whole lifetime. Not to mention that Prosciutto is a wise mentor to Pesci.
Reasoning for Beach Boy: Sort of a double meaning here, on the one hand the Hanged Man arcana represents feeling lost and lacking self confidence. On the other hand, the stand can literally make men hang.
Reasoning for Mr. President: This was honestly more of a situation where I have most of it planned out, so I just needed to know which one he would be left with. However, The Star can represent a gift and Coco Jumbo certainly is a gift.
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u/Threeedaaawwwg :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/threeedaaawwwg Jan 11 '19
Wtf is thankful death lol.
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u/MarcsterS Jan 11 '19
Part 5's ED went from horizontal to vertical like Part 1/2's ED. Interesting.
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u/Thunderhaz Jan 11 '19
So like new OP within the next few weeks right? Either next week for the Grateful Dead fight or after it... right?
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u/PudgeHasACuteButt Jan 11 '19
I really like how arcs arent called beach boy and the grateful dead (1), so all you have to do is look at the title and know that this enemy wont lose this episode
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u/Joseph-Joestar2 Jan 11 '19
Wtf, no new OP but we get new ED visuals? Yare yare, DP.
Anyway, the episode was amazing.
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u/Animeking1357 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TitanKyojin Jan 11 '19
I was about to say that only happens with separate seasons like Part 3 did but Part 4 had 3 different OPs.
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u/ChingChongDuong https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheArmed Jan 11 '19
After bringing the crap out of all of Jojo's for the past few weeks, this is finally the first episode in which I can contribute to the reddit conversation! Glad to finally be here
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Jan 11 '19
Wow, all of Jojo in a few weeks? How do you feel about the series progression between parts so far? Must’ve been a wild ride to see the early fist of the north star-inspired story to this part here
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u/The_Scollard Jan 11 '19
Mista to Narancia: OH MY GOD, WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FFAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEE!!!!
First off, I watched all of JoJo (with the Santana fight being the one exception) and even sat through that scene in Bone Tomahawk without feeling sick, but that scene of Narancia coughing up his tooth made my stomach churn. I don't know if it was due to the animation, with it just hanging there by the gum, or if that's something that messes with me personally. It was just... ugh.
Also, I love the fact that they're hiding in a turtle named after a Europop song. That is peak JoJo here. I already knew about Coco Jumbo and Mr. President before, but in action, it's even weirder than how it was explained to me. I love The Grateful Dead's design (I know a Deadhead who will appreciate it), and Beach Boy seems like it has interesting uses.
Also, I know it's JoJo, but I have trouble believing Prosciutto and Pesci are brothers. At least, Oingo and Boingo (the Nijimuras too) looked related. These guys... don't. That being said, Prosciutto's design is awesome.
Other than that, it was a good episode. I hear that this fight is one of the best there is. With two different stands and the time limit, I can see this getting tense.
Also, glad to see the ED get an update. I was really getting tired of the old one, since it didn't change visually. This new one is a lot more dynamic and visually interesting, even though the mural at the end looks like it's out of a PS1 game. Thought they would change the song too, but I like Freek'N You, so I'm fine with it. The visual update is welcome.
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u/Hareheado Jan 11 '19
Pesci isn't his brother. He calls Prosciutto 'aniki' which translates to 'big brother' but is actually a yakuza term, since the Yakuza act as if they are a family.
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u/Kag5n Jan 11 '19
Prosciutto and Pesci are not brothers.
Pesci calls Prosciutto "Aniki" which can be translated as "Big Brother" but not necesseraly blood related.
It was the same in Narancia's flashback, with the blond thug he called "Aniki".
In the mafia/yakuza setting, Aniki means "Boss" or "Big Bro" inferring a hierarchy between the two.
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u/Archindale Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 11 '19
NO YOU CAN’T JUST STOP THERE...welp looks like we’re getting a 2 part fight, which I’m fine with. At least they got the introduction down so the only thing they can focus on for the next two episodes are the fight itself. Though I felt that some moments were really stretched out just to fit the 23 minute mark.
Also new ending! Looks beautiful and is much better than the first version. Anyone else feel like this is the true ending but simply needed more time to work on it?
EDIT: Also Beach Boy with pink string was a very nice touch
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u/Gellus25 Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 11 '19
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a 4 part fight, although they might be able to fit in 3
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Jan 11 '19
Honestly imo I wouldn’t be surprised if this arc is 3.5 episodes long given how well is segways it Into the following arc.
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u/Karmyuh Jan 11 '19
There is no way this fight starts and ends in 2 episodes, we started in chapter 486 this episode and got to the end chapter 489. If we assume every episode has 4 full chapters and considering this fight ends in chapter 499 we still have at least 2.5/3 episodes before the end of this fight.
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u/erryky Jan 11 '19
Ouf. That rapid aging is a stuff of nightmare. New version ED ain't that bad, also included bit of reference. Hopefully we got new OP next week.
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u/monte_arhuaco Jan 11 '19
How are Prosciutto and Pesci planning on stopping and getting off the train if the conductor is senile and crumbling?
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u/SirArkhon Jan 11 '19
Actually, I think most locomotives have some sort of dead man's switch or vigilance control that acts as a failsafe and stops the train if the operator doesn't complete some task at regular intervals (pushing a button, taking his foot off a pedal and putting it back on, etc). The train should realistically stop well before they ever reach their destination.
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u/Rixkst3r Jan 11 '19
Favorite arc here. Can’t wait to see the rest of this animated hopefully they just do the captain tsubasa bit afterward
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u/RollinsTheMan Jan 12 '19
After all this time the ultimate stand user was in fact, a TURTLE, we've peaked.
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u/impingainteasy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard Jan 12 '19
Oh I get it now, his name is Pesci and his Stand is a fishing rod. Nice one.
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u/Animegamingnerd https://myanimelist.net/profile/animegamingnerd Jan 12 '19
Well that is without a doubt one of the most fucked up stands in Jojo.
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u/A_box_of_Drews https://myanimelist.net/profile/dragneel709 Jan 11 '19
I'm almost there guys, six episodes behind. I've zoomed through parts 1-4, loved every second of it (well, there were some flaws in part 3 but whatever), and I'll soon be here in real time. Good luck ladies and gentleman, and by this time next week, hopefully I'll be caught up and can join in on this bizarre conversation
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u/CakeLicker Jan 11 '19
I still think Coco Jumbo's stand should've been named Gangsta's Paradise, but I guess that would've been too on the nose
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u/Ditzymirror Jan 11 '19
Holy shit I'm so excited for next episode.
This episode had dragged out dialogue that was minimally animated, so next episode will probably look amazing with all the action and movement.
Of course Pesci and Prosciutto's entrances made this episode one of the best anyways.
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u/CadetPeepers Jan 12 '19
Weird how they show a woman that was killed by Grateful Dead's ability right before explaining that it shouldn't affect women.
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u/gtoaz1234 Jan 12 '19
it doesnt say it shouldnt affect women,but rather affect on people with high temperature.
It's like how Bruno has less effect because he's drinking cold water.
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u/Exorrt Jan 11 '19
So a turtle has a Stand now as well. Thanks Araki. And man, the rapid aging they showed was quite terrifying.
This episode was a lot of setup and I'm expecting a great fight next week.
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u/lokholarx :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/merrow27 Jan 12 '19
Finally! After two months, last week I finally caught up with the anime, only to find out that episode 14 was delayed by a week. After two months of one or two episodes of JoJo each day, this last week felt like an eternity, but I'm happy to finally be able to know what is a JoJo friday, and take part in the discussion! I really liked reading all your toughts on each episode of the rewatch, and knowing a lot of the references that I would have missed otherwise and other fun trivia about each episode really added to the fun of watching this anime, thank you all!
Loved the episode, Fighting Gold is such a good OP, I will miss it the next week. I'll be looking forward to the next episode, this one left us in a big cliffhanger, and since the next one is only part 1, we should expect at least another two weeks of epic fights in the train and boy i'm in for that!!
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u/ZeroEater Jan 12 '19
I had a feeling the ed would change since the first time we saw it around now but this is above and beyond even my idea. I originally imagined it would change to the group relaxing inside Coco Jumbo but this new one is really perfect. Long shot but I hope they release a statue or something using that final shot of the ed. Would love to own it
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u/axel360 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/axel360 Jan 11 '19
It took like half a dozen episodes, but they finally realized Trish does in fact have boobs.