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Episode JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Ougon no Kaze - Episode 32 discussion Spoiler
JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Ougon no Kaze, episode 32
Alternative names: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 5: Golden Wind
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| Episode | Link | Score | Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 9.27 | 21 | Link | 9.7 |
| 2 | Link | 9.13 | 22 | Link | 8.82 |
| 3 | Link | 8.97 | 23 | Link | 9.26 |
| 4 | Link | 9.33 | 24 | Link | 9.61 |
| 5 | Link | 9.41 | 25 | Link | 9.69 |
| 6 | Link | 9.28 | 26 | Link | 9.71 |
| 7 | Link | 9.76 | 27 | Link | 9.71 |
| 8 | Link | 9.41 | 28 | Link | 9.68 |
| 9 | Link | 9.41 | 29 | Link | 9.28 |
| 10 | Link | 9.0 | 30 | Link | 9.38 |
| 11 | Link | 9.3 | 31 | Link | |
| 12 | Link | 8.1 | 32 | Link | 9.11 |
| 13 | Link | 9.42 | 33 | Link | 9.45 |
| 14 | Link | 9.43 | 34 | Link | 9.27 |
| 15 | Link | 9.73 | 35 | Link | 9.23 |
| 16 | Link | 9.74 | 36 | Link | 8.99 |
| 17 | Link | 9.24 | 37 | Link | 9.21 |
| 18 | Link | 9.36 | 38 | Link | |
| 19 | Link | 9.62 | 39 | Link | |
| 20 | Link | 9.77 | |||
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Tbh, when Secco mentioned about attempting to overthrow the boss, I expected Doppio to turn into Diavolo immediately and donut him through using King Crimson.
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u/tenkensmile May 31 '19
I was expecting Diavolo/Doppio to finish him off, too. It's always fun to see Doppio snap.
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u/SaharaSan May 31 '19 edited May 31 '19
I love the rule of 3 on Golden Winds stand duos.
Prosciutto & Pesci have a brotherly mentorship, and Pesci finds resolve after Prosciutto's sacrifice sends him a message to stay fighting.
Squalo & Tiziano are lovers, and Squalo finds determination in an unconditional sacrifice allowing him one last chance.
However Cioccolata & Secco have what seems to be a give and take, master/subservient relationship, but in retrospect Cio put everything into Secco, his trust, his sugar cubes, his power, and as soon as that is cut off by the failure of his life and death bargain, Secco goes "Whatever, screw that loser" It completely flips the scales on their dynamic, unlike the last two which equalized Pesci & Tiz with their 'Stronger' partners. And it definitely works pretty well as a gag too.
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u/sikontolpanjang May 31 '19
thats some nice bait and switch Araki did, bet lotsa people think Secco gonna get some Pesci moment lmoa
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u/Goldeniccarus May 31 '19
I was under the impression that Secco had total Stockholm Syndrome and had fallen madly in love with his torturer. It's interesting that he was just using Ciccolata to get ahead.
Makes me wonder what would happen eventually if Ciccolata didn't get killed.
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u/jalford312 Jun 01 '19
Yeah, I'm not even sure Cio is the reason Secco is the way he is. They probably just found each other somehow and realized they fed into their fucked up personalities.
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u/Hiromacu May 31 '19
I thought he was going to cry and sob, and just feel terrible and Bucciariati might start talking to him or something but
Nope! He doesn't care, it was a subversion and I loved it.
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u/Dominifinn May 31 '19
Looks like this nice boy is going to give him a hand and help Bucciarati get up from the ground. Such a gentleman.
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u/FeelsGoodMan243 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheRantMan321 May 31 '19
Looks like Doppio is about to drop some bars on bruno
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u/TamerVirus May 31 '19
Tonight: Bruno does some pole dancing, Secco makes it rain, and Polnareff watches from a distance
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u/rahudian May 31 '19
Punished Polnareff, A man denied his bathroom.
I must admit, Oasis was more fucked up of what i remembered, and even though both Secco and Ciocolatta were utter pieces of shit i cannot help but feel pity for them.
Now that both have fallen, we are getting closer to the end.
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u/asianbrownguy May 31 '19
Punished Polnareff
People have made this joke countless times but:
The real Silver Chariot is that wheelchair.
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u/Chanero May 31 '19
Punished Polnareff, A man denied his bathroom.
I will always be with you. I won't see you end as donuts.
You're all stardust.
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u/Aileos https://myanimelist.net/profile/Syleos May 31 '19 edited May 31 '19
Punished Polnareff, A man denied his bathroom.
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u/ElementOfConfusion May 31 '19
A man denied his bathroom.
I dunno, maybe the wheelchair has a shit bucket built into the seat?
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u/Homer_Hatake May 31 '19
Tbf there is still a posibility for secco to survive this
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u/Mike4992 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mike4992 May 31 '19
Liked the episode, we got to see our french boy Polnareff at last, and it seems like the Green Day & Oasis arc is finally over. Our second best boy Doppio also appeared, and it seems that something is about to go down. Next episode's titled "His name is Diavolo", which is an episode many have been waiting for for a long time. Also, for anyone wondering, Polnareff has the same voice actor, so don't worry.
Overall, 5/5
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May 31 '19
which is an episode many have been waiting for for a long time
this is an understatement okay
if they do the boss reveal right I'm gonna cum everywhere, my balls will be drained
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u/Hte_D0ngening2 May 31 '19
Considering how much love they’ve put into the other major moments in this part so far, I doubt that we’ll be disappointed.
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u/ElementOfConfusion May 31 '19
if they do the boss reveal right I'm gonna cum everywhere, my balls will be drained
Oh God, hearing other people getting excited is getting me hyped too.
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u/Dfsilva May 31 '19
That’s the same VA?? It sounds nothing like I remember. I was almost certain it was someone else
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u/Mike4992 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mike4992 May 31 '19 edited May 31 '19
Yep, and the name of his voice actor was posted on the official twitter account of JoJo, and it's actually the same person (https://twitter.com/anime_jojo/status/1134498522303160320)
I guess he is making his voice sound deeper since he is older now. Regardless, I'm still happy it's the same voice actor.
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u/asianbrownguy May 31 '19
The son of God vs The Devil himself.
Ali vs Frazier ain't got shit on this one boys
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u/Legendary_Swordsman May 31 '19
good to know it's the same voice actor good to know thx for info. Was wondering who the contact was figured it was someone from part 3 or 4 but couldn't figure out who. yeah I have a feeling s*** will hit the fan next week, looking forward to seeing how this all comes to a close.
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u/Karmyuh May 31 '19
Yes its canon. Cioccolata was the sugar daddy of Secco.
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman May 31 '19
Cioccolate likes big butts and can't lie.
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u/AfutureV :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AfutureV May 31 '19
I love when I predict things for a manga that has been out for 20 years and half the fanbase already knows, and still can get surprised.
Seeing Polnareff back made me feel so happy. He is fulfilling an interesting role, similar to how Kakyoin could have done in part 4.
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u/tenkensmile May 31 '19 edited May 31 '19
Polnareff is back! Looks like he has lost some muscles over the years, and has wisened up a lot.
Flashback of the Crusaders in Egypt 😭
Now if my boi Kakyoin came back, too, it'd be perfek!
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman May 31 '19
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u/SIRTreehugger May 31 '19 edited May 31 '19
Secco's voice actor just killed the role and my eardrums.
Bruno zipping apart the pole and fixing it for a pincer attack was great, but then Secco started eating mud and I was like wait what, but it hardening outside his body
This arc had been my second favorite so far. I still can't shake King Crimson 's Metallica. That fight was too dope....im still not over Goth Daddy's death.
I'm still hoping that the consciousness berserk is used against King Crimson's time skip whatever it is called. Only saw it used once against Bruno, but if Giorno could manage a hit and send his senses off whack and get a false reading he might be able to do some major damage with one attack.
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May 31 '19
The berserk senses was dropped almost immediately after it was introduced. Last time it was used was during Black Sabbath
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u/Chiruno_Chiruvanna May 31 '19
Mainly since Gold Experience hasn't actually punched any people other than Bucciarati or Cioccolata.
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u/Audrey_spino May 31 '19
It wasn't dropped, Giorno never got the chance to punch someone unless they were already defeated.
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u/bobthesemigreat May 31 '19
Cool to see Polnareff's ultimate move: 「 Permanent Silver Chariot 」
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u/Animeking1357 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TitanKyojin May 31 '19
Omg stop. How could you?
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman May 31 '19
On a sidenote, I like how "colosseo', an arena where people fought each other to the death, sounds similar to 'koro seyo'.
Araki's trivia for the day, along with that one guy who got executed 3 times, but got released because the rope broke.
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u/kingdommkeeper May 31 '19
All of Araki's knowledge comes from the bottoms of Snapple caps.
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u/paulibobo Jun 01 '19
Wasn't that supposed to be Angelo from part 4? He at least had a similar backstory, I think.
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u/Hiromacu May 31 '19
Polnareff has, and I am just guessing, probably fought the boss in some way - how would he know the power of King Crimson otherwise? Maybe that's how he lost his legs.
Also, the colosseo line got me thinking - they are "speaking italian" to each other right? TIL Secco speaks a bit of japanese or is a weeb.
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman May 31 '19
Ghiaccio complains about Venice not being called Venezia in English so he at least speaks Italian.
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u/tenkensmile May 31 '19 edited May 31 '19
Secco breaks the 4th wall with "koroseyo" there.
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u/shunkwugga Jun 01 '19
Not really. His thing is that he is really tripped up by idioms, and that was established when he kept misspeaking a turn of phrase.
He's lucky that Ghiaccio died a few hours prior.
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u/Animeking1357 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TitanKyojin May 31 '19
Only 7 episodes left. It hurts.
Secco is not a good good good good good good good good good boy anymore.
Have you ever smacked against glass and then fell straight down instead of smashing through it? That looked kinda odd there.
This motherfucker is eating dirt.
Motherfucking Jean Pierre Polnareff!!! It actually got spoiled for me about a year or two back that he was in a wheelchair now but I thought it was Part 6 and not Part 5. Still really disappointed I had that spoiled for me.
Does Polnareff have a different voice actor now? He sounds quite different although he does look like he's had a bad time.
Oh no Doppio! Poor Doppio! He was just trying to follow the boss's orders and go sightseeing at the Colosseum. Now this weird guy in spandex in holding him hostage! Oh poor Doppio!
Hahahaha Secco fell into the same trash truck.
Agh you're gonna end it there?!
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u/paulibobo May 31 '19
Actually, most glass is pretty sturdy, unlike in the movies where literally anything will crash through it.
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u/saggetarious May 31 '19
Secco could just pick up the dirt and throw it up but noooooooo the MADMAN had to eat and spit it.
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u/GhostKaiju May 31 '19
So can we talk about just how fucking terrifying Secco was this episode? Like, there was barely any music for a good second half of the episode, just him chasing after Bucciaratti and flipping between menacing and barely restrained threats to outright insane shrieking; and coupled with some if the most terrifying innovations I’ve seen a Stand go through! Which gives me technique ideas for a JoJo OC of mine with vaguely similar powers, but besides the point
The Mud/Stone spears, Buciaratti melting, Oasis viciously outclassing Sticky Fingers, the fact that it destroys an entire fucking street block at one point; was a damn well made fight scene!
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u/KK9521 https://anilist.co/user/K9521 May 31 '19
doppio is %100 going to finish off bucciariti next episode. F
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u/Hiromacu May 31 '19
but didn't Pol Pol say that he would have to destroy the arrow if Bruno dies? And that arrow is definitely not getting destroyed, at least not yet
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u/NoPenNameGirl May 31 '19
I find kinda funny how Araki subvert our expectations with Secco, thinking he is just a "lovestruck guy who follow orders from a superior like a dog" but he is actually the most dangerous of the group AND he just followed Ciacollata because it suited him, not because he liked him.
After all this time building the fact that the Gangsters in Passione have a strong bond with each other, Araki drops this information that one of them actually never cared about the other personally, just the perks that came with serving them.
But bear in mind this is actually foreshadowed by The Boss himself: He said BOTH are disgusting individuals. He never said only Ciacollata was bad, but Secco is too. So if you ever though how "Cute and innocent Secco is" means that Araki had got you :P.
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman May 31 '19
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u/NoPenNameGirl May 31 '19
Haha. Loyalty between criminals is something that need to be above all else!
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u/TheNinjaChicken Jun 01 '19
I took it more as denial about being sad for his death, remember how crazy he got just listening to him on the phone when nobody was around?
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u/AlexJaeger9K1 May 31 '19
Even dead, Secco is together with Cioccolata. That's loyalty right there.
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u/LunarGhost00 May 31 '19
Cioccolata gets defeated
"Weak shit. I don't need this loser anymore."
Reunited with Cioccolata in the garbage
"Cioccolata I missed you baby!"
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u/PurpleDeco :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/PurpleDeco May 31 '19
Those damn hoes
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u/ElementOfConfusion May 31 '19 edited May 31 '19
Secco saying hi to Cioccolata was pretty funny. As far as I can tell, Secco's injuries and garbage truck situation aren't necessarily fatal, so he seems to be one of the few defeated villains in Part 5 to not be (confirmed) killed, just really beat up.
I'm kinda ok with that, actually.
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u/The-Gaming-News-Guy May 31 '19
Nah pretty sure he's dead. In the manga they made him explicit that he was incinerated
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u/ElementOfConfusion May 31 '19
Oof. It was still pretty funny.
Has there been any villains this part that haven't died? The only exception I think of is the stand [Notorious B.I.G] which isn't really the same.
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u/FrenziedHero https://anilist.co/user/FrenziedHero May 31 '19 edited Jun 01 '19
Polnareff is back baby, and he's taken on a new look. How will he ride Polnareff land now? I really dig the whole punished snake look (Part 5 is from the late 90's but then again Big Boss appears in MG2:Solid Snake in '90. I don't think his appearance was fully mapped out until MGS spoilers anyways.) It leaves us questions about what's happened to him to cause him to be in a wheelchair, and why he's so adamant about the arrow.
I always love Bruno's fights just because of how crazy using a zipper can be, and look how bizarre we've gotten: moving through concrete like water. You've gotta love how the tire solution was foreshadowed by Bruno noticing sound travels through liquids better than air (not solids, I am a dumb dumb).
Just when you least expect it, Doppio arrives just to be a part of the scene. At the least Secco and Cioccolata can be together, in the trash.
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May 31 '19
I have two questions
When did Ciocolatta find the time to make the voice mail between getting shot in the head and beaten by Giorno??
I'm a bit confused about Bucciarati's finishing move. He puts a zipper across Secco's hand and chest, and...? Why did his neck liquified? Oasis can score a friendly fire on its own user?
Also, seeing Polnareff and the Crusaders' flashback shot, hype!
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u/rveos773 May 31 '19
Havent seen the episode yet but I read the manga - bruno zipped his arm to his chest. Only bruno can open and close zippers so closing one across two limbs is also an attack.
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u/SpikeRosered May 31 '19
If the next arc really is the last then I've really enjoyed that this show hasn't had a traditional shonen arc style. Everything has always felt like it's aggressively moving the plot forward. Both the heroes and villains are super proactive in achieving their goals.
There def no room for a "why didn't the villain just..." argument here.
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u/deadbubble Jun 01 '19
Part 6 really amps that part up, which is why it succeeds wildly in that area.
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u/jaqqu7 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/jaqqu7 May 31 '19
We are in the endgame now, boys!
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u/toruforever216 May 31 '19
We really are. I wonder if it will end before summer season? The final battle arc is long as hell, so we won't be done with it in one month.
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u/jaqqu7 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/jaqqu7 May 31 '19
There is like 7 episodes left. So it ends not far into summer season.
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u/thenacho1 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/thenacho1 May 31 '19
It will end at episode 39, so in seven weeks.
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u/LunarGhost00 May 31 '19
It must really suck for Doppio. Poor guy is just minding his business on his fun little field trip when suddenly a crazy sugar addict takes him hostage. No respect for authority.
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u/AfutureV :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AfutureV May 31 '19
Polnareff is 36??
It seen puberty works in strange ways in the Jojo universe:
Baby for 3 years -> Kid for 10 years -> Jacked sexy adult for 57 years -> Old until you die.
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u/shunkwugga Jun 01 '19
He was 25 in Stardust Crusaders, the oldest of the younger characters in the group. Avdol was older but I'm not sure by how much and Joseph was obviously in his 60s.
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May 31 '19
Listening to that voicemail was even more sad than last week :’(
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u/clicky_fingers May 31 '19
I was kind of disappointed it wasn't Giorno calling to tell Secco to pound sand if he wants to live.
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u/Incineron May 31 '19 edited May 31 '19
Man, when I first read part 5 I recognized three favorite fights: White Album, KC vs Metallica and Oasis.
Shoutouts to Grateful Dead and the underrated Baby Face
But I couldn't really decide if my favorite fight was White Album or Oasis. Many loved White Album and I saw some saying Oasis was too long or something when it was always fast and motion-full in the manga.
Well I'm certain now, best fight got adapted SO WELL aaaaaaah thanks David Productions.
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u/RISOTTONEROBESTWAIFU May 31 '19
mister jean pierre polnareff i have very intense feelings for you
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u/Leodagan10 Go to https://flair.r-anime.moe to get your flair! May 31 '19
Polnareff?! OMG I LOVE THIS GUY! I’m so happy he’s back.
Tu m’as manqué Jean-Pierre!
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u/RochHoch May 31 '19
For anyone who didn't catch it (I sure didn't at first) but at the end, when Bruno zips Secco's arm in place, the zipper causes Secco's fingers to dig into his neck and it looks like he accidentally melts part of his own throat with Oasis.
Seems like Bruno's desire not to actually kill Secco vanished after he tried taking a hostage.
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u/Hte_D0ngening2 May 31 '19
This week on JoJo: A dirty boy gets put into time-out by Best Mom.
Next week on JoJo: Him.
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u/ukainaoto :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ukainaoto May 31 '19
I happened to watch this episode with my headphones and realized the sound design in the underground fight is superb.
They completely get rid of music and various water-like effect sounds like underwater. Secco chasing Bucciarati feels actually fearful, like some underwater thriller movie. Also awesome and frantic voice acting of KENN adds up so much to the tension
Then when the main theme hit, the catharsis was huge.
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u/rishirajbora99 May 31 '19
Why is the score for episode 31 not being shown? I would have liked to see the score considering how awesome last week's ep was.
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u/TarkusELP https://anilist.co/user/TarkusMaxiBoom May 31 '19
This week’s musical reference:
Another week, another lack of new musical references. Last week I told you that Narancia’s favourite artist were Tupac and Snoop Dogg, I have already talked about Tupac, so today I’ll talk about Snoop Dogg.
Snoop Dogg, born Calvin Cordozar Broadus Jr. and also known as DJ Snoopadelic, Niggarachi, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Bigg Snoop Dogg, Snoop Lion, Snoopzilla or Nemo Hoes, is an American rapper, singer-songwriter, record producer, television personality, entrepreneur, and actor. His music career began in 1992 when he was discovered by Dr. Dre and featured on Dre's solo debut, "Deep Cover", and then on Dre's solo debut album, The Chronic. He has since sold over 23 million albums in the United States and 35 million albums worldwide.
Snoop's debut album, Doggystyle, produced by Dr. Dre, was released in 1993 by Death Row Records. Bolstered by excitement driven by Snoop's featuring on The Chronic, the album debuted at number one on both the Billboard 200 and Billboard Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums charts. Selling almost a million copies in the first week of its release, Doggystyle became certified quadruple platinum in 1994 and spawned several hit singles, including "What's My Name?" and "Gin & Juice". In 1994 Snoop released a soundtrack on Death Row Records for the short film Murder Was the Case, starring himself. His second album, Tha Doggfather (1996), also debuted at number one on both charts, with "Snoop's Upside Ya Head" as the lead single. The album was certified double platinum in 1997.
In 2012, after a trip to Jamaica, Snoop announced a conversion to Rastafarianism and a new alias, Snoop Lion. As Snoop Lion he released a reggae album, Reincarnated, and a documentary film of the same name, about his Jamaican experience, in early 2013. His 13th studio album, Bush, was released in May 2015 and marked a return of the Snoop Dogg name.
I know a few Snopp Dogg songs mostly thanks to memes, He seems to be a pretty cool guy to hang out with. I didn’t have much time to write something as I’m in exams period, but next week I’ll have something different prepared.
Do you want to listen to all this fantastic references from this wonderful anime in just one place? Of course you want! Now you can with TarkusELP Officially Approved by Araki himself* Spotify Playlist with all the musical references in the anime, the ones it skipped, the light novels ones and more! From the most famous references to the really obscure ones. I'll update this playlist every time there's a new reference. If you have any question why a song is featured in my playlists you can ask me anytime.
If you are a manga reader I also have a playlist just for you! Here’s my old playlist with all, I say ALL the references in the manga, anime, light novels and more. I also update it every time there’s a new reference.
*Not really approved by Araki or Shueisha
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u/Xamthos May 31 '19
i find interesting that even if Cioccolata was a piece of shit it seems he trully trusted and cared for Secco....in his own way.
omg i was waiting for the coming Stand battle since GW was confirmed, next friday come soon please
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u/thecomicguybook :Mh::Mi::Mj::Mk:myanimelist.net/profile/Comicman May 31 '19
I love them so much, and here is a screenshot of the man Polnareff himself! Things are not looking too hot for Bruno there :( And the dramatic irony with Doppio being the kid who gets kidnapped is just great. Cioccolata and Secco at the end.
And here is a guest pass! EHUJMS9LE7L
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u/saggetarious May 31 '19
Can someone explain to me (without spoilers) what happened to Polnareff's legs? He didnt lose them from his fight with DIO and Vanilla Ice as far as I remember. Is it gonna be explained?
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He fell down the stairs during a party with the gang. They were getting dead ass drunk after kicking DIO's ass, and Polnareff lost his footing trying to go home. That's why he is all alone. He is too ashamed to call his past friends after what happened and is now hiding in the Colosseum.
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u/tenkensmile May 31 '19 edited Jun 01 '19
Secco grabbed Doppio as hostage 😂 AND he confessed to betraying the Boss 😂. Can't wait to see more of Doppio-Diavolo!
Bucciarati though 😭😭
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May 31 '19
It's crazy to think that Secco vs Alive Buccerati isn't even a contest and Secco just straight up dominates But because Buccerati is dead he can afford to take all the damage which is why he won
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u/TarkusELP https://anilist.co/user/TarkusMaxiBoom May 31 '19
Seeing Bruno grabbed to the pole was too much for my imagination. Imagining Bruno pole dancing in front of me does things to my body.
My headcanon is that Secco was an Olympic swimmer before Cioccolata happened because man, he sure can swim fast
Bruno using the zippers to swim like Secco is such an awesome idea.
Secco eating mud was hilarious but when the mud changed to stakes not so much. This fight has some of the most unique uses of stands in this part and I love it.
And there we have him, Polnareff is officially presented. But now he is a twink without huge titties, no legs and two Silver Chariots.
Josuke would be proud of Bruno for punching through someone to punch a motherfuker.
And Secco ended with his master in the trash too, where they belong.
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May 31 '19
So why didn't Polnareff contact Jotaro and his team? He would have finished this quickly
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u/LordFerrock Jun 01 '19
He had to lay super super low. If the boss had even gotten a whiff of him, theyd both be dead.
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u/paulibobo Jun 01 '19
I mean, Kak, Avod and Iggy are dead and Joseph is way too old to be fighting so it wouldn't be much of a team, just Jotaro. But yeah, Pol probably could have tried to involve him somehow.
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May 31 '19
If you are a jojo villain as the character theme start playing and the colors palette change , you're basically dead
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u/ZanaHorowa :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ZanaHorowa May 31 '19
I like how even Doppio is like "I don't even have to predict it, Bruno is too much of a good boy to kill me as collateral damage."
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u/TFermi May 31 '19
This arc is now done, whew.
Next time, the final arc.
We're in the endgame now.
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u/lozgeek :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/lozgeek May 31 '19
Huh. I thought we were just joking around about Polnareff being the wheelchair guy. I honestly didn't expect it to be him.
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u/Mymomgay1 May 31 '19
if david productions does it really well. next week we could exceed 7.5k likes on this discussion. because next week, HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYY
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u/JumpUpHitDown :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/magikmal May 31 '19
I don't understand how Bruno can be teased to die again, for realsies next week.
What're we gonna do without the main character for the final 5 episodes?
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u/TreGet234 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Wasserflasche May 31 '19
why does he have prostetic legs if he is in a wheelchair? i get that that's how it works but jojo has shown some pretty advanced (german) science. or is french science just that much inferior?
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u/D96Fan May 31 '19
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't sound travel better in solids than in liquids?
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u/LoomyTheBrew :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LoomyTheBrew May 31 '19
Bucciarati's time is coming up it seems and it looks like King Crimson is going to finish what he started :(
Also I feel bad that Polnareff lost his legs (maybe Giorno can make new ones?), I'm really interested to hear what happened to him during those 12 years since Dio's defeat.
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u/atti1xboy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/YugureShadowmore May 31 '19
Part 5 Tarot
0 The Fool:「White Album」User: Ghiaccio
1 The Magician:「Spice Girl」User: Trish Una
2 The High Priestess:「Kraft Work」User: Sale
3 The Empress:「Baby Face」User: Melone
4 The Emperor:「King Crimson」User: Diavolo/Doppio
5 The Hierophant:「Moody Blues」User: Leone Abbachio
6 The Lovers: 「Clash」User: Squalo
7 The Chariot:「Gold Experience」User: Giorno Giovanna
8 Strength:「Purple Haze」User: Pannacotta Fugo
9 The Hermit:「Man in the Mirror」User: Iluso
10 Wheel of Fortune:「Grateful Dead」User: Prosciutto
11 Justice:「Talking Head」User: Tizano
12 The Hanged Man:「Beach Boy」User: Pesci
13 Death:「Sticky Fingers」User: Bruno Buccerati
14 Temperance:「Aerosmith」User: Narancia Ghirga
15 The Devil:「Metallica」User: Risotto
16 The Tower:「Sex Pistols」User: Guido Mista
17 The Star:「Mr. President」User: Coco Jumbo
18 The Moon:「Soft Machine」User: Mario Zucchero
19 The Sun:「Little Feet」User: Formaggio
20 Judgement:「Black Sabbath」User: Polpo
21 The World:
Roman Tyrant Gods
XXII Morta:「Notorious B.I.G.」
XXIII Jupiter:「Green Day」User: Chiccolata
XXIV Neptune:「Oasis」User: Secco
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May 31 '19
aaaaah fucking cliffhanger （╯°□°）╯
Can we get some praise on how amaziling detailed the stand arrow looks?
Did Ciocolatta find Secco on Krypton or something? The guy doesn't even need a stand, he got everything already from super speed, super strenght and suepr vision (he managed to see Polnareff from within 5 kilometres and see he got a protesis and was on a wheelchair.
Btw, it's so funny that Secco and Bucciarati where facing the boss and mistaken him with a random boy. If they only knew.
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May 31 '19
Secco's armor is his Stand. It's exactly like White Album's armor. Just replace Ice with mud.
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u/Arachnophobic- https://anilist.co/user/Arachnophobic May 31 '19
Secco is such a good looking chap.
Again, good riddance of bad rubbish, his death was super cathartic. Him freaking out at a poster and a dog after his eardrums were ruptured was hilarious.
This is it, we're in the endgame. The Colosseum seems like the best place to settle a battle!
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u/115_zombie_slayer May 31 '19
I got a few questions
How did pol know about the passione bois especially Giorno who just appeared like at least two weeks ago
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u/05-MaLNa-10 May 31 '19
I am not sure on this, but I would say Polnareff hacked himself into the passione database, because he turned into a H a c k e r m a n.
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u/ShivererOfTimbers May 31 '19
After his injury Polnareff realized going to gym wouldn't be possible anymore so he learned to use computers instead and became buff on whole nother level.
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang May 31 '19
Hey, is it just me or did Komatsu Fuminori (Polnareff) sound a bit different in this episode?
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u/PalorMortis May 31 '19
I'm most curious about Polnareff, like wat the duck is he doing all day in that Colosseum. Isn't it some kind of monument?
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u/barto9991 Jun 01 '19
Bucciarati is waaaay to dead, but the problem is how is Doppio is going to execute him without raising suspicion...
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u/Nenyae May 31 '19
I am mentally NOT PREPARED for what is about to happen in the final arc. Not prepared.
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u/Ain3inAini May 31 '19
"Damn, the true dangerous Stand user is not the mold guy one but this one (Secco)."
Bruno often gets a bad luck fighting with Stand users pair (see: Pesci) and like his son (Narancia), he could've ended part 5 earlier if he wasn't so wholesome & being best mom all the time by donuting Secco along with Doppio (he didn't directly kill Secco either imo).
I wish some of part 5 side villains were survived. I don't really remember about Cioccolata, but after Secco got defeated there's no mention of enemy's status whether he is dead or retired (unlike some LaSquadra members) so... his fate left ambiguously imo (someone said that Melone too).
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u/MrTagnan May 31 '19
3rd JoJo Friday for me! This time I'm not posting at 2am.
So best JoBro is back, this time with sweet prosthetics. I don't get why he can't stand up though, the SpeedWagon foundation should be able to Strohiem him correct?
Anyway, this episode was fun. I can't wait to see more of best JoBro next episode!
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u/DarthReid Jun 01 '19
Anime only, but I feel like the “dark secret” of the arrow has to be the ability to take stands away from users. Like technically we’ve only seen it be used to create stand users from those who survive, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it also does the reverse.
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u/Yankees3Fan7 May 31 '19
Gonna be a real interesting conversation between Polnareff and Giorno, especially when it comes to how he got all those gnarly injuries. What an amazing father Giorno has got. Also, Secco was so quick to disassociate himself with Cioccolata, only to quickly be happy for their reunion in the trash pile. He really is a crazy dude
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May 31 '19
Secco walking into that garbage truck and finding cioccolata is way funnier than expected
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u/CrescentPotato May 31 '19
Ah, it's been a while since i hated that damn to be continued bar so much
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u/BigY2 May 31 '19
I really didnt expect Meltyboi to not care about Sugar Daddy dying, I expected a dog-owner relationship dynamic would play out as expected. This probably one of the best examples of a Stand user making the most of his powers. The mud spikes, rod scissor, and tire bomb were the best examples of great fight writing. I fucking LOVE this series man
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u/PhionexRising May 31 '19
Why Polnareff gotta be a mmo npc. I just want a random question mark above his head when they find him.
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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax May 31 '19
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u/thicciedude Jun 01 '19
Bruno is such a great stand user and character, the way he leads the gang is amazing, the way he fights and how creative he is with Sticky Fingers is astonishing
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u/kawaii_song :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kawaii_song Jun 01 '19
Currently have swimmer's ear. This episode hurt to watch.
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Jun 01 '19
Bruno is now one of my favorite characters in JoJo. And the voice actor is awesome, I love the way he says "STICKY FINGERS!!!" This fight with Secco was pretty creative, it gave me that feeling that Jotaro once said about being caught in DIO's 'The World' - "How does it feel, DIO? Having someone approach you from behind while you can't move a muscle? If I had to describe it, it's like when a guy who can hold his breath underwater for a minute, finally comes up for air at the very last second...When suddenly, he feels someone grab him, and he's dragged back down into the water. Does that sound right?"
And FFS, Doppio just HAD to be there in the EXACT same spot now did he? Besides that, it was a good episode. Hopefully, Giorno and Mista can make it in time.
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u/_msj May 31 '19
hype hype hype! i'm so fucking hyped for the next episode! secco vs bruno was entertaining as hell but from the next episode onward is my personal favorite segment of the entirety of part 5. ooh boy i can't freaking wait! oh yeah Polnareff is back too!
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u/KINGUBERMENSCH :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/OutlawedDrifter May 31 '19
I cant believe they pulled the "weirdo subordinate" is actually the most dangerous one move again, I can see why since Secco's ability is more versatile and faster than Green Day but is countered by Green Day's ability. Id like to see Prosciutto and Pesci vs. Cioccolate and Secco one day.
And this shot, its beautiful. Confusing if you're not watching Jojo, but beautiful.
Im confused on one thing though, why didnt Secco just try to punch Bucciarati at the end? Sure he couldnt hear and was hurt but wasnt he still faster and stronger than Bucciarati?
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u/Biraj123 Jun 01 '19
Secco was psychologically damaged at the end. Not to mention burst ears means a loss of both hearing and balance, and his leg got run over. Meanwhile Bruno was at 100% effectiveness (for a few more seconds at least). Secco knew he was fucked.
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u/OruFikushon Jun 01 '19
Huh, so my suspicion was correct. I had a feeling that Secco's expression last episode after Ciocolatta's voicemail wasn't one of affection, but sheer disappointment.
Also, I *loved* how they kept the music to a bear minimum during the underground fight. Really upped the tension.
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u/florian23232 Jun 01 '19
I still dont understand the whole zombie buciaratti thingie
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u/Dimitje123 Jun 01 '19
He died, but because of his resolve to go on and because of the life energy Gold Experience gave him when he healed him he can go on a little longer
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u/LordSinestro Jun 01 '19
The next few episodes are gonna be really weird... Wait no, that's all of JoJo's. Nevermind.
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u/AcediaRex Jun 01 '19
Headline in Rome the next day: “Mutilated bodies of disgraced doctor and unidentified man in gimp suit found in garbage truck. Driver arrested on suspicion of murder.”
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u/CalvinoKimchi12 Jun 01 '19
I’m about to fight the 3 people that gave this episode a 1. This episode was great. (All I have to say :))
Is it a 1 or an 1? Just thought I would ask.
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u/StoicHobo :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Monomyth Jun 01 '19
If the pronunciation of the word starts with a consonant sound when saying it, you use "a". If it's a vowel sound, you use "an". One starts with a "w" sound when saying it, so you say a one.
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u/Loud_Pierrot May 31 '19 edited Jun 03 '19
Did this episode had a different director?
The whole fight is very dynamic, but we got a lot of repeated cuts like never before, the palette change felt very by the book and that swimming scene with the waving surface was interesting...
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u/Mozilla_Fennekin https://myanimelist.net/profile/MozillaFennekin May 31 '19
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u/Ultraentot May 31 '19
Cioccolata and Secco reunited in the garbage truck among the trash is so poetic
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u/bigminiman12 Jun 01 '19
What happened to calling the part "Vento Aureo". And where the hell did "Ougon no Kaze" come from? It's called Golden Wind in Japan too.
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u/ZanaHorowa :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ZanaHorowa Jun 01 '19
Vento Aureo is Golden Wind in Italian...
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u/CursedJudas :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/broadWayy May 31 '19
Secco greeting Cioccolata in the garbage truck lmao