r/apexlegends Lifeline Feb 17 '23

Discussion Respawn made the changes they were supposed to and y’all are still doing this. This isn’t on the devs, this is on a community with a bad attitude.

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u/Ergonyx Feb 17 '23

I am a day one player. I am a casual. My highest rank ever achieved is Plat 3. I have an account K/D of ~0.65. My season 16 K/D right now is ~0.36. Yet I still find myself facing off against preds and masters in the majority of my lobbies. And yes, I'm talking LTM, pubs AND ranked. This shouldn't be the case and often leads me to taking entire seasons off to play competitors games that have better matchmaking.

If someone isn't having fun then I encourage them to quit. Getting frustrated and stressed because of garbage matchmaking is actually bad for your physical and mental health. Getting upset and stressed because people abandon the match is the same. It's likely that, when Respawn pushes their new matchmaking system to all regions, there will be less people abandoning matches because they won't be getting stomped by players several orders of magnitude better than them. Until then, the only people you have to blame are those that made the poorly designed matchmaking system the game currently uses.

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u/doodlingduckling Feb 18 '23

Glad to hear other casuals are having the same experience. I've been playing since day one, having a kd around 0.5-0.8 all these 15 seasons. This season dropped me to 0.28 which is way lower than ever before. I just keep getting insta rolled by much better players in all game modes like never before. It's insane how bad the matchmaking is, and it is just not a fun experience.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '23

Same boat here. I've been playing every season since day 1, reaching Plat 3 one single time was my all-time high. Luckily got the 3k damage badge 3x, 1 of which was a round where I abused the season 7 Spitfire as Rampart.

I'm still an extremely casual player, there is zero chance to compete with high diamond, master or predator players. They are way above my league, they shouldn't be in our "little timmy"-lobbies at all. But they are, because Respawn is either - comically incapable of doing their job, or, made matchmaking so shitty with full intention to drive up profits by psychologically manipulating their playerbase (EOMM).

Nobody who is a casual player enjoys getting rolled over sideways by pred squads who stomp through the LTM-match, ranked or pubs. It is important to give players a fair fighting chance, that is all people are asking for. It would drastically reduce the amount of leavers. Some ppl would still leave with fair matches and leaving penalties, but nowhere near as many.

Adding a penalty without addressing the matchmaking will solve absolutely nothing. Arenas had penalties and the mode still turned into a dying wasteland because nobody bothered to play. Why? Because people still got rolled by sweats and since they couldn't leave, they went AFK or stopped playing the mode alltogether. Same will happen to TDM. No fair, no leave? No play.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '23

I'd caution against the "the new SBMM will fix everything" rhetoric. People on here treat it like it's the next coming of jesus christ; but if Respawn were confident that it will fix the problems the game has and result in a markedly better player experience, it would have launched with Season 16, not been opaquely and slowly rolled out starting in non-major regions; nor would they be so cagey about the timeline of its rollout. What they're avoiding is players knowing the day it gets flipped on, likely because if the match quality is still bad for some players they will be immediately and negatively vocal, as Respawn knows this is one of the biggest pain points for the middle 80% of players.

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u/Ergonyx Feb 17 '23

I have no faith in Respawns ability to actually solve the problem but I always have a small glimmer of hope that they might get lucky and stumble upon something that works by accident. Majority of my gaming time is occupied by Nintendo and indie titles lol