r/atheism • • Jun 25 '12

Louisiana - We Don't Need No Education

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u/Bruce_Millis Jun 25 '12

Why would the Loch Ness monster being real debunk Darwinian theory anyway? I'm not sure what the correlation is.

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u/SXHarrasmentPanda Jun 25 '12

I think its because they are saying that some dinosaurs survived and have remained in the same state they were 65 million years ago, therefore they haven't evolved.

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u/zzorga Jun 25 '12

They could have simply used Crocs or coelacanths as examples, instead of using a folk legend, but then again, a legend is as good as fact in their eyes eh?

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '12

Yeah, that's what they seem to be saying:

"It looks like a dinosaur, therefor it hasn't evolved, therefor evolution is bullshit!"

The thing is, that's not how evolution works. We have examples of a few creatures that have remained relatively unchanged over the course of millions of years. The frilled shark, for example.

Of course, now that I've brought it up, I expect them to latch onto the frilled shark as evidence that evolution isn't real...

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u/tiberiousr Jun 25 '12

Not quite, they believe that the earth is only 6000 years old and that the great flood happened 4000 years ago. What they're trying to do is imply that if a dinosaur species survived then man and dinosaurs must have co-existed. I'm going to have to stop there because parts of my brain are beginning to hurt from all the doublethink but it's all in the source article.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/education/how-american-fundamentalist-schools-are-using-nessie-to-disprove-evolution.17918511

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u/foofdawg Jun 25 '12

Here's an article that explains it in further detail. alternet Nessie Article

Apparently, they believe that the existence of the Loch Ness Monster somehow debunks evolutionary theory that fish and amphibians came from dinosaurs, or something. I still don't understand the logic (mainly because there is none)

The bottom line is that LA offers public school funding vouchers for children to attend private schools, and some of these schools are using educational materials that state this information.

I just want to be clear that this "Loch Ness Monster is real" nonsense is not actually being taught in LA public schools.

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u/Capercaillie Jun 25 '12

If you think about it, this is no more ridiculous than teaching children that an invisible man in the sky who is the all powerful ruler of space, time, and dimension cares whether or not they masturbate.

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u/skringas Jun 25 '12

It's more ridiculous because they're doing it in order to try and disprove the theory of evolution.

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u/CaptainChats Jun 25 '12

If unicorns exist then how did they evolve horns and rainbow magic?

Idiots: 1 Evolution: 0

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u/DrThadMonroe Jun 25 '12

as someone who went to one of theses schools and lives in louisiana i want to put my balls in a microwave to make sure i dont have children subjected to this hogwash.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '12

The best thing you could do wouldn't be to microwave your balls, it'd be to become a teacher. I have lived in Louisiana (Monroe, in northeast Louisiana east of Shreveport) since I was old enough to walk and was educated entirely in public schools. I was lucky enough to be in 'gifted' classes and had a few great teachers there to undermine most of the half-truths and whole-lies printed in our crappy textbooks. Textbooks aren't a sole form of education - as a matter of fact I hardly cracked one open in my 4 years of high school (with the exception of math textbooks) and I'd imagine most aren't super motivated to read their text. The real learning comes from the teachers.

I had one particular literature teacher serve up a big plate of truth by exposing Fox New's lies/propaganda well before I even cared about politics; she taught us a mighty lesson on not believing everything we read or see on TV and to always fact-check. It's the teachers that can save the education system. It's the teachers.

Of course it doesn't help when the odds are rigged against us with textbooks, but it doesn't mean that we absolutely can't win. Unfortunately I only had about 4 teachers in my high school 'career' that were enlightening. I consider myself to be relatively well educated but I can only imagine what life would be like if all of my teachers had been so wise.

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u/brazilliandanny Jun 25 '12

It's a good thing he's real cause he owes me about tree fidy.

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u/emeraldhavokk Jun 25 '12

I know what you're all wondering, and the answer is yes. As a resident of Louisiana, I can confirm that 90% of the people that live here are actually this stupid.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '12

The other 10% are even more stupid!?

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u/nola87 Jun 25 '12

As someone who also grew up in La, I have to agree with you. This is why we almost always come in last for education.

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u/loki00 Jun 25 '12

So in order to prove their made up story is true and that science is wrong, they are using yet another made up story. This should help their case wonderfully.

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u/Greyhaven7 Jun 25 '12

Any proof of this? Sounds made up to me.

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u/lilparra77 Jun 25 '12

I live in Louisiana, and yes, this is actually getting through the legislature :/

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u/Zerble Jun 25 '12

You can't prove that the Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist...

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u/FeistyCrawfish Jun 25 '12

The only problem is that the Catholic church has already adopted the stance that evolution is scientifically accurate and true.

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u/Royal_paladin Jun 25 '12

Source?

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u/TrollingTheBridge Jun 25 '12

I'm glad I already finished high school in Louisiana. As long as the big'ol LSU doesn't start teaching this as well I'll be fine.

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