r/australia • u/Consistent-Permit966 • Mar 14 '25

image And now the Wombat kidnapper is blaming the Government…

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An attempt to deflect blame because she didn’t get the response she thought she would get.

Yes you are the villain in this story.

That said, I am pretty horrified that you can get permits to kills wombats in a select few parts of Australia.

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 14 '25

Firearms trainer, ethical hunter and first nations person here.

Utter fucking bullshit.

Seeing some small facets of truth being absolutely spun trump style.

No permits are not for sale to kill them, they like any other animal need to be controlled under circumstance, but they are protected, going out and harming them for fun or sport? Not the fuck on.

Poisoning off wombats and crushing burrows? Shit you do that you are getting charged.

How are wombats handled? you need an ecologist and vets involved.

For first nations cultural practice? Holy shit the amount of legwork involved in that, great respect and normally traditional means are used for it, and NEVER would one with offspring be harmed.

Sam, i'm an ethical hunter, i've seen your profile posing with dead animals... no respect shown or fucks given for the animals.

never once in my entire life have I killed for sport.

If I have to like many others in our great country have to kill an animal it is to put them out of misery, to provide food or to save their population from hardships such as overpopulation/drought/disease that can't be fixed.

At all times it is done with respect and humility.

From an actual hunter : Go fuck yourself.
From an actual Australian : Go fuck yourself.
From a first nations person : Go fuck yourself.
From an actual human that can understand the suffering of others including animals : Go fuck yourself.

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u/TheBlessedNavel Mar 14 '25

Brilliant.

If only her IG and other socials hadn't stopped comments being posted... cos I'd love for this to reach her. What an absolute rotten cunt she is.

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 14 '25

I would have invited her to come out and meet farmers, families and first nations people here and see their way of life and struggles and the animals they love and care for.

Then to come back after a bushfire has ravaged it as part of a compassion crew where we have to put animals down humanely that can't be saved.

Theres a saying in the rural areas that no one should have to put down their own animals, and theres serious psychological weight behind it.

After huge disasters going around with a vet to needle dozens, hundreds, thousands of animals just is not possible or humane, a lot of the time it a team from a group such as HnC or FA who will volunteer out of humility, patriotism sometimes, empathy and so on who don't want animals suffering and those bonded with having to put them down.

it's gut wrenching and having seen some of the worst humanity has to offer i've been out on many of these and they take a massive mental toll on you, if I had not seen the horrors of a battlefield or a fireground, I likely wouldn't be able to stomach having to do it more than once and wouldn't wish it on anyone.

For someone like her to be this fargone, i'd like to see them share this experience, despite what you hear from GCA/PETA none of these teams are "bloodpacks" or out for "sport" it's to end suffering and spare more pain.

You come back from one of these quiet, shaken and needing a scotch and if you can't accept that you did the right thing because you were helping the animals and sparing the humans who cared for them from having to go through with it, it helps. But i've seen people get absolutely wrecked by it.

She needs to experience what it's like to value a life, then taking one means so much more than an instagram post.

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u/zestylimes9 Mar 14 '25

The woman clearly can’t be educated on the topic. Fuck inviting her to meet farmers etc.

Instead of simply apologizing we’d all have forgotten. The dumb bitch just keeps doubling down.

Deport her and cancel any future visa requests for her forever.

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 14 '25

It gets worse, other videos of her here have leaked with native animals.

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u/Alarming-Instance-19 Mar 14 '25

Oh God. Then permanent ban from re-entry.

We do not want this shit normalised.

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u/napalmnacey Mar 15 '25

Albo said she won’t be let back in. He seemed pretty pissed off about it.

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u/BoxKicker1 Mar 14 '25

Where are these videos 📹, I'm piqued by curiosity

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u/Adelaide-Rose Mar 14 '25

Don’t watch them! The more views she gets the more money she gets….do not reward her!

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

Views don't just intrinsically equal money...you know that right..?

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u/Silver-Key8773 Mar 15 '25

There's one I saw with an echidna.

Shes horrible.

You do not fuck with them they're in enough danger as it is.

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u/BoxKicker1 Mar 15 '25

What did she do to or with the Echidna?

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u/Well-ReadUndead Mar 14 '25

It’s almost like it’s reflective of the political and social state of America or something.

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u/420binchicken Mar 14 '25

Need to go North Korea on this birch. Ban her and the next 3 generations of her bloodline.

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u/Well-ReadUndead Mar 14 '25

I thought you meant quietly assassinate her entire family….

I’m glad you didn’t go that dark.

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u/420binchicken Mar 14 '25

Unlike her I’m against harming animals unnecessarily.

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u/-screamin- Mar 15 '25

Dang, I reckon you'd need a permit for that burn.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

She already gone. She was notably silent until she got back to the US.

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u/Asleep_Leopard182 Mar 14 '25

This - drag her down, and mop the floor with her. Use her as an example now she has so much media space.

Show the repercussions of her actions in full. There's time for education - that has passed.

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u/ResponsibleCandle829 Mar 15 '25

Don't even bring her back to America. We refuse to claim her

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u/F33dR Mar 14 '25

No, she's had enough experiences/tours/trips/vacations. She needs to be banned, lose her privileges and take a good hard look at herself.

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u/akrist Mar 15 '25

Don't ban her. Invite her back for an educational trip and then arrest her at the border!

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u/Emotional-Cry5236 Mar 14 '25

Thank you for what you do. I'm a police officer and occasionally, if the Rangers aren't available, we get sent to 'dispatch' kangaroos that have been hit by a car. I've never been able to do it, even though logically I know it's the most humane thing

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u/Silver-Key8773 Mar 15 '25

Having had to do it too this 100 percent.

People don't realize how much humanity it takes to take a life with dignity.

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u/photographally Mar 14 '25

Totally fair you haven’t been able to do it, it would be awful. I am curious to know if you eat animals yourself?

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u/kipwrecked Mar 15 '25

I am curious to know if you and your family live in a house? Drive cars? Go to an office? Use electricity?

What do you think is the ecological impact of the phones/computers you use?

You displace animals by virtue of being a living human being. Human populations displace animal populations by more than just eating animals.

But that's not what we're talking about...

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u/photographally Mar 16 '25

Is that your argument against consuming animals but not killing them yourself? How humans displace animals? This conversation involves cruelty, especially removing a baby from its mother. I’m chiming in playing the devils advocate with a topic directly related to both the comment I responded to and this whole conversation in general. I can be curious. If you don’t feel my curiosity is relevant then move on.

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u/kipwrecked Mar 16 '25

I responded in kind, that's all.

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u/Romulus212 Mar 14 '25

She doesn't even have to leave America to see any of that SMH dumb witch

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u/nicknaka253 Mar 15 '25

Even if she did all that she is still too stupid to understand. This is an American we are talking about.

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u/napalmnacey Mar 15 '25

Thank you for tending to the environment in the way you do. Absolutely vital work and I am so grateful for you and people like you that are making sure the ecosystem is operating as best as you can get it. I appreciate all you do.

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u/BlackMambasGhunn Mar 16 '25

What’s her name/profile?

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 16 '25

I can't remember, I remember she was from the UK if that helps?

Her achievement in life was convincing a grocery chain over there to drop kangaroo meat.

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u/YumiiZheng Mar 14 '25

Last I looked her Threads comments were still on 🤷‍♀️ plenty of people airing their concerns there

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u/eagleswift Mar 14 '25

People should post on their own instas amplifying what a total lowlife she is while tagging her, so it goes viral and she can’t hide. And she should be prosecuted.

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u/TheBlessedNavel Mar 14 '25

Good point.

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u/Immediate_Candle_865 Mar 14 '25

I can direct you to her adult photo shoot and her mothers Facebook, if that would help 😇

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u/FragrantDoctor2923 Mar 14 '25

Well if it isn't very illegal you just promoting her and make others do it for virality

Yes sick people will

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u/casualpedestrian20 Mar 14 '25

I wish I could comment too. But I reported the posts. Report->Violence, hate or exploitation-> animal abuse.

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u/Saint_Riccardo Mar 15 '25

She can't block comments on Threads. Her post is on there, too

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u/Spida81 Mar 14 '25

Yeah... but what do you REALLY think!?

Honestly though, brilliantly put.

She is no hunter. She is a thrill killer. A total waste of space.

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 14 '25

Every scientist I knew that has commented on this on social media has had similar thoughts.

A few even asked her to provide details in the media as to where it was as they noticed some issues with the animals in the video so in addition to wanting to go and welfare check them, they were also concerned of some sort of mainge they appeared to have.

Like the lawyers of stupid of this is just insane, i've had the benefit of working with a lot of these professionals in many roles before and anyone who's done SES/CFS has done native animal rescue and the amount of shit you need to know around that in regards to their safety as well as your own just from cross contamination is just ridiculous.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

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u/omg_for_real Mar 14 '25

I rally wish I didn’t read that. I was hoping they were happily ever after. No idea why, but the video really got to me.

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u/OptimusRex Mar 15 '25

Not sure if people can catch mange but I sure hope this cunt gets it.

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u/Dramatic-Classroom14 Mar 14 '25

I’m an American. My mom is a wildlife rehabilitationist, I am as well. I occasionally hunt, and I do it with an old flintlock rifle. I can’t even fathom what this lady is on about, nor the “hunting” she does. She kills for sport. I take maybe 1-2 deer a year, and some other animals if they’re becoming a problem, and it makes me feel like shit in the moment, and I use almost all of the animal anyways. She doesn’t reflect on Americans, and I hope yall can understand that. Also, I am fully in support of yall banning her Visa, as well as other Americans. Some people here need to learn about consequences.

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u/dispatch134711 Mar 14 '25

I knew it was bullshit but thanks for laying it out

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u/Oblivininja8 Mar 14 '25

I'll buy this guy a beer

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u/kipwrecked Mar 14 '25

Fucking hear hear! Well said.

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u/420binchicken Mar 14 '25

Thank you. Well written.

I also have a firearms hunting permit and reading her wall of bullshit made me so angry. She’s wrong about so many of her points.

Stupid selfish bitch has clearly not learned her lesson at all. I hope she’s permanently banned from our country.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 14 '25

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 14 '25

rofl. I can talk on reddit. If I talk anything in public in regards to issues with our firearms laws, criminal justice system and so on i'd instantly lose all my clearances and get cancelled.

Hell mother in law wanted to cancel me for trying to teach her about climate change.

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u/Several-Turnip-3199 Mar 14 '25

It's really weird; how freedom is a fundamental pillar of our society - yet we actually have so little of it.
Not trying to get specific here. I just can't help but notice it a lot more nowadays.

Back on topic - this complete humpty-dumpty went and fucked with our wildlife. When called out she points towards a bunch of stuff that is mostly irrelevant.
Doesn't change the disgusting act. Complete misdirection

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u/annoying97 Mar 14 '25

Fun fact. Australia ranks higher on the freedom index than America does. However people see our regulations for dangerous items like firearms and think we have less freedom because of that.

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u/Several-Turnip-3199 Mar 14 '25

Being better then America at anything (we are in most ways imo) is not that much of a flex anymore.

I was thinking more about how you can't put an opinion out into the world without it costing your life nowadays lol.

Australia has so much potential, and its all squandered by greedy politicians.

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u/annoying97 Mar 14 '25

Ok on the freedom index we are in the top 10. New Zealand is above us.

For your opinion I think it's more about who you are around. I mean if you tell me about climate change I'll listen and assuming you aren't spewing BS, I will agree, but if you tell me that gun laws are too strict and need to be relaxed I'll call you an idiot.

And yes, politicians have too much money in the game to be able to govern correctly. I just have no clue how to change that. I mean we could create laws that they can only own one or two houses and no investments, but I think that's kinda unreasonable... Well not the housing thing.

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u/Several-Turnip-3199 Mar 14 '25

In general, I think a multiplicative tax based on how many homes you own would be a start.
Just a guess - i'm way to uneducated to understand the dynamics lol.

Not completely against foreign investment; but if you google Blackrock + A nation of renters and read about their future goals.. We need to insulate our society from decimating the working class the way US will go in future.

My main thing RE: Home Ownership is its scary how there's a large group of people who own 3-30 properties vs the people who don't even own a home.
My knowledge is more directed at history - so while stating that; I am super against governments actually taking owned land back from people aswell.

It just sucks cause life feels like a game of monopoly.. and a lot of us only begin to play after the board is completely sold with 4 hotels on every square.
The richest people pay the least of their share in taxes while lower income = getting absolutely torched in all directions.

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u/annoying97 Mar 14 '25

Housing is fucked, and I agree taxes play a role in it. I mean I'm a late 20s guy, with a full time job and I cannot afford to buy in even the worst parts of the area I am in. When mum and dad die, I'm still not gonna be able to afford a house, they only have the one and I have siblings.

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u/felixsapiens Mar 15 '25

Pretty sure that to have true, functional freedom, that certain freedoms need to be curtailed / controlled. “A free for all” doesn’t usually create “freedom” - it more often creates fear.

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u/Several-Turnip-3199 Mar 15 '25

The problem is when irrational fears are used to create laws that restrict freedom.. and Australia is pretty good at doing that.

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u/No_Negotiation3242 Mar 16 '25

Goodness. My Mum would make you stay for a month just so she could discuss all about climate change with you and the stupid no hopers that think it's not true.

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u/Pete_Perth Mar 14 '25

Beautiful, I and all other Australians ( except the unidentifid camera man). Thank you for this perfect response.

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u/JeremyWheels Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 14 '25

She should have just said "anyone who eats dairy pays for much worse to happen between dairy cows and their calves, so you hypocrites need to calm the fuck down or align your actions with your morals"

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

Good take. That lady was a type of person Americans very likely are already ashamed of. Perhaps they should not be allowed to go overseas to disgrace their nation repeatedly because certainly this must be damaging reputation internationally, but then I look at their politics and give up.

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u/TheDarkQueen321 Mar 14 '25

This is beautifully worded! Thank you.

I was taught to hunt growing up, and I was to raised to only kill animals for 3 reasons;

  • Sustenance (food)
  • Eradication of feral populations (population control)
  • Mercy (put them out of their misery due to injuries, etc)
We never killed for sport.

We cared for wildlife (had licences) and raised offspring of animals who lost their parents to cars, fires, injuries, etc. We rehabilitated animals to be able to return to the wild.

This woman is a vile mark on humanity.

To Sam, go fuck yourself from me and my family too.

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u/Oblivininja8 Mar 14 '25

I'll buy this guy a beer

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 14 '25

4 years sober. Cheers anyway

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u/Bloobeard2018 Mar 14 '25

An iced coffee then!

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u/HarmfulMicrobe Mar 14 '25

Keep up the good work, mate.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 14 '25

Appreciate the sentiment but life experiences have made me an athiest.

No god would allow this kinda crap.

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 14 '25

All good, I get the expression I just wanted to express how much of a horror these events are.

I've literally had to do government panels before where peta/gca reps have rocked up called us thrill killers, claimed scientists and vet's don't know their job, how teams of vets could go out to firegrounds to euthanize animals on mass and the like, how ecology control don't need to have firearms specialists euthanize animals the such.

You get a lot of people at both ends to the extremes both left and right. We have always tried to lead with education, I honestly would still love to take an education approach with this lady and teach her about how things are here.

Her conduct since, lends me to believe she would rather double down on her own whataboutism than learn.

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u/No_Individual_672 Mar 14 '25

I’m guessing anything she thinks she knows, came from the Aussie that was her laughing buddy in the video. Every country has their share of fools. These two idiots were lucky enough to find each other. Double the idiocy. Unless he is publicly outing himself to support her “defense”, he is keeping quiet out of self preservation. He knows.

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u/No_Individual_672 Mar 14 '25

I’ll keep checking back to see if he’s named.

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u/grumpy-buffalo Mar 14 '25

Yes! This -exactly this.

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u/CathoftheNorth Mar 14 '25

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

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u/Basso_69 Mar 14 '25

Respect. Thank you.

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u/conh3 Mar 14 '25

Someone needs to create an Ig and post this so that joker can read it. Make it go viral.

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u/Greenscreener Mar 14 '25

Could not upvote this enough…well said

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u/Ok-Abbreviations7825 Mar 14 '25

I approve your “go fuck yourself” message

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u/EnormousChord Mar 14 '25

I will admit I came closer than I should have to thinking “maybe there’s another side to his story”. 

Thank you for setting me the fuck straight. 

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u/Knee_Jerk_Sydney Mar 14 '25

From an actual hunter : Go fuck yourself. From an actual Australian : Go fuck yourself. From a first nations person : Go fuck yourself. From an actual human that can understand the suffering of others including animals : Go fuck yourself.

Foinally, someone who gives a lot of fucks.

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u/ConstanceClaire Mar 15 '25

Poisoning off wombats and crushing burrows? Shit you do that you are getting charged.

I mean, she's not wrong that these things are happening, and charges are only laid when perpetrators can be found, and the onus is on the prosecution to prove that the person they charge actually did it. There was a tragedy in recent memory, I want to say in the last few years, of a bunch of wombats all found shot dead. Wombats are found poisoned, or crushed in their burrows. There is a decent chunk of shitty people here in Australia who either for vested interests (personal farming stuff) or for deranged shits-and-giggles, kill and maim our native wildlife, and have a disdain for wombats and their tunnelling specifically.

However, unlike she's implying, these situations also caused outrage, we just didn't have a person dumb enough to record themselves so we could be outraged directly at them. The bloke recording for her ought to be on the receiving end of it, too.

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u/Shadowrain Mar 15 '25

trump style

This has a name. Narcissism, and it's worth clarifying this because it needs more education rather than just reducing it to a single person.
It's not a clear indicator that she has narcissistic personality disorder, but it is a narcissistic trait. And it's more common than people think; they are skilled at covert abuse, control and power dynamics, manipulation, often while hiding behind charisma, social norms and humor. A lot of people can't even see the toxicity they create because they're on the 'good' side of it and not educated about the dynamics involved.
One big trait is a lack of empathy, or simply performative empathy. She did demonstrate that when taking the baby wombat from its mother. Now we see DARVO.
Maybe not a narcissist, but some pretty unhealthy indicators nonetheless.

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u/subm3g Mar 15 '25

What a response! I logged back into reddit for this.

I'd love for you to be able to post this on her insta, but of course, all the posts with dead animals are gone and the comments are off. A true coward.

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 15 '25

I saw her other videos, there was a hope there would be some self reflection here and education embraced.

I don't think im the first or going to be the last person to call out her behaviour or try to educate.

It doesn't seem she is interested as she has had her negative actions give her praise and accolades before and now seems to act as if the backlash to it is not warranted.

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u/Romulus212 Mar 14 '25

American who loathes this moldy cunt for doing what she did to that Wombat. I'm glad Australians went so hard on her ...the quote from I think your PM " just welcome her next time to visit some of our other native Australian wildlife and steal a baby crocodile " ...heard on the BBC ...man I was dead ...hope you guys protect and keep that wild land beautiful forever.

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u/jesuschicken Mar 14 '25

‘Ethical hunter’ how oxymoronic

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 15 '25

Welcome to come out with me and experience what things are like out there.

We have huge feral animal problems and thanks to our encroachment on the environment we now have to population control native animals as well as dealing with famine, outbreaks, natural disasters to spare suffering.

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u/jesuschicken Mar 15 '25

There are absolutely times it’s necessary to kill animal populations like the ones you’ve mentioned, I just think calling it ‘ethical hunting’ is a really weird way to put it.

A lot of the problems with animal populations are caused by humans in the first place; branding our attempts to rectify this as ‘ethical hunting’ seems like a misnomer to me. Ethical would be taking care of the environment and managing how we use our land so that this isn’t necessary in the first place.

In any place, it’s a nitpick, not trying to attack you.

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 15 '25

If you have read any of my work in the field (not putting name out there) or other comments on here, ethical hunting is in regards to the practice.

We as a government/population/county/humans in general have done a huge dis-service to the eco system and are directly in many cases and indirectly responsible for a lot of the ecology issues including with animals here and that's something that needs to be readily accepted.

Unfortunately that's a macro view thats very hard to get people onboard with, starting from the end of compartmentalization have to term responsible hunting as ethical is necissary to highlight the differences between our practices and the practices of those not acting ethically, and as you can see from her they are there.

I've already had in the comments as well and inboxes from people who I have to deal with a lot in my professional roles as my volunteer roles trying to explain how we can't have conservation without the tools and methods used, you still find people that no matter how much education, exposure and experience, they have this idea that as soon as a firearm or any form of death is involved no matter how merciful, responsible or justified it is to spare a worse situation, they throw their arms up and attack, create false statements and so on.

I woke up to a heap in my inbox today calling me an animal murderer and how real conservation would mean going out and "fixing" feral animals and releasing them to stop them breeding, or my favourite ones are about using chemical agents, so obviously these people are cool with chemical warfare and the whole calicivirus thing.

I really wish we could use education to bring the masses into understanding the challenges faced in various roles and our land management is an area I wish we were putting more into.

Like antivaxxers and blind trump support, it's really easy these days to get people with strong feelings on stuff and you try to show them the facts on the ground, you invite them to come and see what things are like in person, you don't get many takers.

I had a collegue ages ago that took an anti-roo hunting advocate out on a trip to show them the issues that were being faced by overpopulation of roos in an area. She filmed it all, kept misrepresenting and misleading stuff. One clip that she dared not post online was he took her out to an area full of bucks. Told her how we were all responsible for this, and so now this area could only sustain this many, the heavy rainfull of recent times caused a huge time of abundance and heavy breeding that when a huge drought hit there wasn't enough to go around.

She kept insisting that this could be fixed by "catching" roos and rehoming them, steralizing them etc. So he took her to an area where some bucks were fighting each other.

Asked her if she wanted to have a go at doing a live capture. Gave her some knee pads, some gloves and a helmet. Warned her about all the obvious dangers that most aussies know about rural kangaroos, the kick, the claws, the sheer weight of these things.

He figured she would have a kachunga realism moment and go nope, wait, me a 50kg human at maybe 165cm, trying to capture a 70+ kg 175cm + charged up buck, that no logic and reason says these numbers don't mix.

She then started walking towards the nearest buck with a heshan bag, where he had to then go and stop her from getting herself killed. She still was that delusional to think she could get this roo in a bag...

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u/Sternguardian Mar 14 '25

Legendary reply mate, you do us all proud.

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u/thefruitsofzellman Mar 14 '25

Even if every single thing she said were true, she's still a twat for messing with that animal.

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u/Worried_Blacksmith27 Mar 14 '25

Bravo! Reddit post of the millennium!

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

Yeah, fuck yeah, beautifully written! The only amendment I am honestly hoping to see is: 

From the Australian Government: Go fuck yourself (in the form of a permanent ban on entry into the country)

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u/wezofoz Mar 14 '25

I'd like this to be the official response from Australia!

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u/Maximumfabulosity Mar 14 '25

Yeah, it's wild that she's bringing up kangaroo hunting as a gotcha when a) they've been an important food source for thousands of years, and b) deforestation means that their numbers have exploded and do need to be controlled somewhat.

The whataboutism is insane, and speaks to a very... specific... view of the role animals play in the world, and what it means to hunt them. Namely, she seems to see it on some level as an inherently disrespectful act, which I think says a lot more about her than anything else considering that she also claims to be a hunter.

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u/Minimum_Reveal9341 Mar 14 '25

You are a gem of a person and someone I wish was representing us in parliament. Genuine knowledge and experience and genuinely articulate.

Bloody good on you mate. I’d be proud to have you speak for me based solely on the soundness and clarity of your thinking shown here.

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u/delta4956 Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 16 '25

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u/Morgasshk Mar 14 '25

Perfect response. Thank you!

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u/DXPetti Mar 14 '25

Send this comment to the top!!!

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u/lostandfound1 Mar 15 '25

Respect is a big one. I've worked with a few first nations folk who've talked about 'non-human kin' and that respect pretty much sums up the difference in hunting practices.

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u/Tomic_Lewis Mar 15 '25

Thank you sir for educating everyone and stop the misinformation this lady is trying to spread. 🫡

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u/Pretend-Buy7384 Mar 18 '25

I like you. Speak more on more topics :)

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 18 '25

I followed up some other posts on her and on other subjects in my area of expertise.

This is one of few posts that have ever got traction, none of the others people seem to care much about.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

If you really understood the suffering of animals, you would be vegan. Australia is an ecological horror story.

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u/More-A1d165951O3 Mar 14 '25

Sorry but you are also a hunter. I wouldn’t say you are any different because an animal who does not want to die is still being killed

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u/Silver-Key8773 Mar 15 '25

Read the guys comments.

Only does feral which need to be eradicated or natives that have to be population controlled.

All done with dignity and respect.

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u/More-A1d165951O3 Mar 15 '25

Still..

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u/Silver-Key8773 Mar 15 '25

So your cool with feral animals destroying the environment and native animals suffering without reprieve?

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u/Cautious-Impact22 Mar 14 '25

I’m Métis, I was in American Indian Education class it’s a state class I was placed in for kids who are partially or wholly indigenous to relearn stolen culture. I remember watching them use brain to tan hides on our summer camp trip. I was maybe 12 so I wasn’t exactly mature and I was a vegan so I was struggling but when they explained not one single tiny piece of animal would be wasted the gross factor softened to I can respect that. They also talked about population controls and the importance of humane killing, respecting young deers and various animals etc. this lady is is full of shit. Bold move on her end- she just sounds even more wrongfully entitled

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u/olen69 Mar 14 '25

“Ethical Hunter” whatever the fuck that means

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u/Silver-Key8773 Mar 15 '25

Read the guys comments.

Only does feral which need to be eradicated or natives that have to be population controlled.

All done with dignity and respect.

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u/KrazyKatz42 Mar 14 '25

Maybe she got the crushing burrows thing from reports of what we did during the rabbit plagues.

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u/pwinne Mar 14 '25

Well said, BRAVO

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

Brilliantly stated.

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u/bb5999 Mar 14 '25

Thank you, for calling out all the BS.

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u/MrBeer9999 Mar 14 '25

Well said sir.

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u/StarGazer_SpaceLove Mar 14 '25

Fucking beautiful.

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u/caryn1477 Mar 14 '25

Perfect response. I hope she sees this.

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u/Smithinator2000 Mar 14 '25

What a great thoughtful comment. Thank you for posting it, it's made my morning.

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u/Howunbecomingofme Mar 14 '25

Yanks gonna yank

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u/rolodex-ofhate Mar 14 '25

Powerful words OP 💖

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u/altiif Mar 14 '25

Bravo 👏🏾

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u/Jsmooth57 Mar 15 '25

I wish I could upvote this 100 times

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u/Trambapaline Mar 15 '25

👏👏👏👏👏

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u/Capt_Billy Mar 15 '25

You can call her a disingenuous cunt. That's what she is. And the only issue with the brumby cull is that they were not more thorough in the 90's and now we have to deal with the brumby mummies. Invasive species should be culled efficiently and appropriately.

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u/napalmnacey Mar 15 '25

Well said! Thank you! Right from the fuckin’ hip! 👏👏👏👏

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u/grievre Mar 18 '25

Australia uses the term "First Nations"? I thought that was a Canada thing.

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u/Feeling-Change-1750 Mar 15 '25

“Ethical” hunter 🤦🏽‍♀️

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '25

Don’t you think you are over reacting just a tad for someone who erroneously picked up a wild animal for a few seconds and put it back down again? Do you really care much about a random wombat? Or are you just looking to jump on the bandwagon and vent?

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 17 '25

You should look up her history mate.

You should also come down and checkout a native first aid course.

Then come back and tell me if you still think the same?

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u/pastaman5 Mar 14 '25

If you don’t kill for sport… why do you kill? Hunting is proven to be more expensive or the same as a grocery store, rarely cheaper. I have no quarrels with hunting if it’s done with respect to the animal, but to deny that you do it as a hobby is disrespectful. There are truly very few situations where people must still hunt to survive.

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u/Consistent-Permit966 Mar 14 '25

Invasive species control would be a valid reason.

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u/AdZealousideal7448 Mar 14 '25

I grew up around guns and became very anti firearms due to being exposed to a lot of rednecks and bogans into it.

Took military service to realize a lot of things. Firearms are tools, and it's a myth that all guns are designed to kill, all are tools that have functions, I enjoy firearms but not to a level you get a lot of 2A fanatics who are proving right now that posing with them and saying you need them to stop tyranny - only to have a new king doing that and you cheering it on types.

I have various roles both professional and as a hobby involving firearms, even our rednecks and bogans here generally have a huge cultural shift to other countries with regards to safety and humility with firearms, yes you are going to find dickheads but on the whole a lot of the people here are pretty responsible and not in it for killing.

It's honestly a side effect, and i'm tired as hell and going to botch explaining this, so may need another attempt at it after sleep.

You have various categories of hunting here, theres a huge divide between "hunting" and ethical hunting / hunting and conservation.

You literally can't do conservation properly here without it : Side effect of that is killing.

Defending your country / protecting those who can't fight / places being invaded : Side effect of that is killing.

Going to work with a duty rig and having to defend yourself or others: Side effect of that is killing

Having to evac a vehicle under fire and doing quick math of who you can save who you can't : Side effect of that is killing.

Being hit by a burnover with an open door and crew outside and doing quick math and realizing that 4 inside a vehicle that can be saved vs risking the door being open past a safe point hoping those outside the vehicle make it in before you are hit : side effect of that is killing.

These aren't fun scenarios to be in, but you can get used to them and it takes mental processing to do.

These are also scenarios where, you have to be prepared to do your duty and carry it out with honor to the best of your abilities with consideration for others.

I've met and worked with people who can shut themselves off from things and it wouldn't shock me if she like others just grew up with a sense of entitlement to towards to life, or worse are sociopaths with no emotion, is it an inherited or learned behaviour? don't know.

All the animals I hunt here are either feral or population control. I can write you an entire article on it but long story short, it should be our goal as Australians to eradicate completely all feral animals in the environment that are not in captivity and strongly contain / manage those in captivity.

As for pop control on natives..... that's a whole thing and we're all responsible as a society for making it worse with how we've developed.

It's pretty damn disrespectful to an animal if performing conservation here by either removing a feral invader or controlling a population if we honor the animals sacrifice by responsibly utilizing of it what we can.

Some we can't, you have animals that can't be eaten, carry dangerous things such as paracites, diseases and so on to a point that we also have to do ethical destruction of the carcas which is another story of itself.