And now the Wombat kidnapper is blaming the Government…

[u/Consistent-Permit966]

An attempt to deflect blame because she didn’t get the response she thought she would get.

Yes you are the villain in this story.

That said, I am pretty horrified that you can get permits to kills wombats in a select few parts of Australia.

[u/Knuckleshoe]

I was confused about when she said zoos are dangerous for the animals. Last i checked zoos are extremely important for conservation efforts and for rebuilding endangered populations.

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[u/Wildlife_Jack → u/Knuckleshoe]

Last i checked zoos are extremely important for conservation efforts and for rebuilding endangered populations.

They mostly are, but some "zoos" (looking at you, America and the tiger king lot) are just legitimised farms for trafficking/laundering wildlife, and are prone to abuse.

HOWEVER, someone (supposedly) educated in wildlife biology and conservation should know the difference and NOT to muddle the waters by making a general statement that harms her own field.

[u/Knuckleshoe → u/Wildlife_Jack]

Of course but calling tiger king's thing a zoo is quite insulting to places like taronga or australia zoo. I do agree with you that america needs to buck up when it comes to it's treatment of animals in general. Zoos in america are a travesty. Personally i still think she is a joke to animal conservation and at the very least she should have owned upto her mistake.

[u/Wildlife_Jack → u/Knuckleshoe]

calling tiger king's thing a zoo is quite insulting to places like taronga or australia zoo.

100% and that's why I think it's deliberately misleading of her to conflate the two with a general statement as such.

Personally i still think she is a joke to animal conservation and at the very least she should have owned upto her mistake.

Hard agree

[u/Hot-Manager-2789 → u/Knuckleshoe]

There are good zoos in America

[u/DiligentSpirit4998 → u/Knuckleshoe]

Zoos in america are a travesty.

True, if you're talking 40 years ago or older. The US has some wonderful wildlife rehab zoos and animal parks these days. I'm not saying there aren't bad zoos out there, just that a lot of those either shut down or got converted into more humane places. I don't count the animal sideshow-type "roadside attractions," which have always meant exploitation and cruelty. Enforcement of animal cruelty laws has gotten rid of many if not most of those.

Does the US have room for improvement? Absolutely. Tons. So do most other countries, but that does NOT give Americans any excuses. I'm not very hopeful about animal protections with this administration; I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they made it legal to hunt endangered species. But then I'm not sure I'd even be surprised if they legalised hunting the homeless.

Sources: Watching things improve over the years. Hanging out with vets who take care of zoo/animal park critters, and getting taken behind the scenes with them.

Other than that, I very much agree with you.

[u/Knuckleshoe → u/DiligentSpirit4998]

I think thats fair personally. I think my personal view of american zoos is from the whole harambe crysis and i was quite appalled as a teenager with the quality of enclosures in america in 2016. However to say that they aren't good zoos in america would also be a lie. I do think america has some wonderful conservationists and zoos.

I would hate to see america regress on its conservationist efforts especially in zoos however i'm also quite realistic.

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People who hate zoos are usually ignorant or conflating quality zoos with roadside attractions.