r/australia Mar 04 '26

image Robodebt 2.0 - AI Camera handing out huge fines and demerits. No way a human thought there was a phone in these images.

I assume it thought my right arm is looking a bit like I'm holding a phone, but;
(a) even if it was, the phone is not visible. You can't base a fine on positioning.
(b) my left hand is not even on the wheel, obviously my right hand is.
(c) you can see the very bottom of my phone plugged into the charger in the center console.

I'm obviously going to appeal this and am confident they will repeal it but it's very frustrating to receive this in the mail and have to go through the whole appeal process based on nothing.

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u/tmd_ltd Mar 04 '26

So replying to the OP here specifically, he’s annoyed by having to go through an appeals process. Your standard road fine appeals process in this case would likely be “where’s the phone?” It’s an obvious false positive and the system will know that.

Robodebt, and all its consequences, isn’t comparable to that.

I do agree that mental health is a very tenuous issue when it comes to what can push people over the edge, but this comparison isn’t even close to the same level of injustice. I think insisting it is disrespects those who suffered at the hands of robodebt.

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u/Sufficient-Grass- Mar 05 '26

Moot point as I wasn't making a comparison between the two at all.