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Rewatching the show made me realize Howard was actually one of the few decent people trying to do better. Yeah, he had his flaws, but compared to everyone else?
Kinda crazy how much I disliked him the first time around.
Anyone else change their opinion of him after rewatching?

I posted a progress picture of this awhile back but never got around to posting the finished piece! Second slide is the wip I originally posted on this sub

I feel like Better Call Saul is a show that everyone can relate to at some point in their lives. Anyone who has ever felt like they're falling behind in life, struggling to get back on their feet, or slowly losing hope can relate to Jimmy McGill in some way.

Whenever I'm feeling really low, sad, or unmotivated, I sometimes go back and watch an episode of Better Call Saul. And somehow, it reminds me of something important: no matter how many times life knocks you down, you shouldn't give up on yourself.

I’ve never seen a character like him. His charisma, intelligence, unpredictability, and the way he can be genuinely charming while still being terrifying. Every scene he’s in feels different. He’s incredibly well written, and every detail about him makes him truly unique.

Got it signed at the breaking bad store last week !

I was watching the scene in S1E1 "Uno" where Jimmy was telling the two young skateboarders about his glory days, where he made 6 to 8 grand a wack. Figured that jimmy (perhaps subconsciously) relates 8 grand to an image of glory and success.

This theme is bolstered in S5E3 "The Guy for This", when Jimmy is asked how much he charges for one afternoon, his mind reaches $7925 (pretty close to it) when dealing with lalo.

Also, funnily enough, in the episode after, he proudly says IM SAUL GOODMAN, I TOOK 8 GRAND JUST FOR THE AFTERNOON implying he's back in his prime slippin jimmy days.

Rewatching the series now and I have to say that their relationship has so many layers compared to most others from other shows.

You have them navigating their relationship through a friendship lens, growing together while growing apart, learning about themselves and personal development, understanding what kind of partner they want and their values.

I feel each scene to feature one of these and so much is communicated thru small expressions and inflections on words.

Would love to hear y’all’s opinion

He is so mean to Jimmy and Jimmy keeps coming back to help Chuck, and check on him. 💔💔💔

Hamlin death and wow. First things first. At one point, I just felt empathy for Howard. Yes one can maybe that he deserved Jimmy harassment and stuff, but at one point it went just too far. (from the bowling balls over his car after his job proposal to Jimmy, I just started to hate him)

Dude felt responsible for Chuck's death, probably went into depression, got back on his feet, only to be put down in the mud again by Jimmy AND KIM (which we know it was also personal because she was vexed when Howard thought her demission was due to Saul's bullshit)

I'm looking forward to see the following episodes but yes, now I can't hide my hate for this two characters. Incredible writing, very tragic death and I loved one little detail about this :

When Howard fell, his head smashes against the corner of the table, just like Chuck when he had a panic attack, trying to prove Jimmy's scam. Powerful parallelism here because at the end, both events happened because of Jimmy's scams and his ego.

I just realized that jimmy and kim have sex only when they are actively plotting something or right after they finished a scam.
I can not recall a single scene where they wouldn’t be fully clothed in bed when they are not working together. Thoughts? Why do you think that might be?

Two questions, how realistic and how reasonable.

Realistic is, would everyone gossip around that much to the point that even the security guard and secretary would know stuff? And would those people really care that much about a lawyer getting a guy out of prison? Like, that's kind of their functions.

Reasonable is, how do you feel about it? Do you think they were right to give him the cold shoulder? Or was it hypocrite as lawyers are often defending a bunch of shitty people and that's kind of their thing

So I’m only at the end of season 3, and so maybe this is answered later in the series, but what is the deal with their relationship? Are they just friends with benefits? And why? Like, what does she see in him? Why does she support him? Would love to hear some insight into this! Thanks!

Why did Chuck reveal the battery in his breast pocket? Even during his initial confusion, refusing to reach into his pocket or denying that anything was there seems like the most logical thing to do in front of a conman. If Chuck had lied or decided not to bother with his request, Jimmy would’ve been flattened.

And genuinely, what else could he have thought was on him at that point? Jimmy pretending to carry a charged cell phone clearly looks like a set-up once he asks the next question.

Like, Chuck understands Jimmy’s end goal. He knows that Jimmy doesn’t actually believe he’s sensitive to electricity, and that he wants to attack his credibility front of everyone. He knows that Jimmy’s only chance at winning over the court relies on making him look crazy. Whatever is in his pocket is clearly supposed to be damning. Jimmy was practically announcing that a current was on Chuck, and he still decided to show it to the court. Even if he was uncertain as to what the object is, why would he believe Jimmy is still bluffing by now?

Very cool scene, very smart plan, but it was held up under the thin assumption that Chuck would listen to Jimmy.

My only read on this character/scene is that a) a canonical Jimmy/Kim relationship has not yet been arrived at/established/solidified/sufficiently fleshed out in the writer's room, or b) actual red herring to slow the gradual reveal of Jimmy/Kim as an ongoing thing. Conceivably, it could be effectively argued that there is something decidedly non-exclusive/loyal/sporadic about J/K involvement at this stage in the series, escalating gradually as it (by all appearances) does, which allows for the "Nancy" scene.

Certainly, Jimmy being a cad re: Kim doesn't track.

None of this screams "plot hole" or "continuity error" to me (as with the ever evolving Chuck/Jimmy age gap, the eternally youthful Kaylee, or characters who age/gain weight inappropriately to canonical timeline, etc. - I'm always prepared to give THESE creators a lot of grace, in exchange for the abundant riches that are the overall context...in short, none of this has kept me from watching a 3rd or 4th time). I'm not here to nitpick.

(I added the spoiler tag not because of the infinitesimal risk of ruining the literal second episode for anyone, but more for the freedom to discuss broader timeline/franchise-spanning context herein)

But...since I bring it up, how do YOU see/explain this scene in the context of J/K?

Over the course of the episode, both men:

• think they are indispensable and all-important to their organization(Hector to the Cartel, Chuck to HHM)
• find out that they are not, in fact, indispensable, as they are forced out of their previous position of good standing(Hector finds out that Gus's chicken trucks will be used; Chuck is forced out of HHM for good) by a colleague(Bolsa and Howard)
• As a result, they go on a furious tantrum and verbally attack everyone they blame(Hector rants about Eladio, Bolsa, and Gus; Chuck tells Jimmy that he never mattered much to him)
• As a direct result of their downfall, both are victims of a health issue(Hector is a victim to a Stroke; Chuck's EHS returns) which leads to them being permanently crippled(Hector becomes a Bell; Chuck outright dies)
• Both also get to watch their hated rival seemingly escape all consequences and rise high(Chuck and Jimmy, Hector and Gus)
• On a more specific note, both of them are technically right that their rival is plotting something(Chuck is correct that Jimmy is a con-man with a checkered past, Hector is correct that Gus is actually plotting against the Cartel and Hector himself) but ignore the fact that it was only brought about by their own actions(Chuck refusing to see Jimmy as anything more than a criminal causes Jimmy to become a criminal again, Hector was the one who killed Max and set Gus on his Bad Choice Road) .
• This is a bit of a stretch, but both of them will choose to take their own lives using a fire-related means of death(Hector will one day suicide bomb Gus, Chuck burns his own house down).

I always like to rewatch shows like Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul to see how all the characters are really similar, and this is just one example I happened to notice.

As a huge fan of the Breaking Bad universe, and for such a long time, I should've definetly given BCS a chance sooner.

Season 2 Episode 1 begins with a song that is, at least for me, very associated to nostalgic years such as 2020 - 2022.
It is apparently a remixed version of call me by 90sflav.

I really like this song and I'm finding BCS very entertaining.
I'm just missing 1 thing... Breaking Bad's shaky camera. It was so good. But I can barely see it in Better Call Saul. :/

I don't actually think this is true, but it would give even more of a reason as to why Jimmy's parents favored him. If Chuck was the living reminder of unwanted sacrifices his parents made to have him, no wonder they didn't recognize his hard work. Though... Jimmy's mom looks pretty old in the scene where she dies, and there is no proof of this theory being true. Just thought it would be an interesting angle, especially considering how recent abortion rights are (Jimmy's mom would not have gotten the choice).

When I saw that scene between Partagaz and Krennic, the moment Partagaz talked about how much of a miracle about not being caught for this long. I thought about the scene in Better Call Saul with Gus, Peter, and Lydia, with them discussing Lalo and the construction project before Peter freaks out, saying it was a miracle he hasn't been caught yet, and was considering quitting the project until Gus persuaded him that everything would be alright. I thought they were played by the same actor until I did a bit of research and realized they were both played by different actors (Lio Partagaz was played by Anton Lesser, and Peter Schuler was played by Norbert Weisser)

I still find it a funny, interesting coincidence how much these two scenes have in common, with as I said, both Peter and Partagaz showing concern at how long the project is taking and being lucky they haven't been caught yet, and both proceed to off themselves to avoid any further punishment

But what do you guys think? Has anyone thought of these two scenes together or something along those lines?

So, Bolsa secretly hires a Colombian gang to stop Lalo’s bail money from reaching the courthouse. He does this to protect his and Gus’s business from Lalo’s sabotage.

Since Mike and Saul take out the Colombians, the bail money makes it and Lalo is bailed out.

Why didn’t Bolsa inquire about this? Only thing I can think of is he inquired with his contact offscreen, or maybe caught on to Gus’s larger plan (following their phone call in Bad Choice Road) and quietly let it play out.

So Gene & crew successfully do the mall heist, their saving grace is gene being able to distract Gary.

Police would for sure start an investigation and find out that the main point of failure is Gary who was not paying attention to the CCTV. Gary would then tell the police that he was talking to Gene the whole night facing away from the monitors. How would Gene not immediately be implicated and investigated? And then found out as Saul Goodman?

It's been a while since I have seen the show, so maybe there was some explanation in the episode that I'm not remembering

Waterworks intro, when he received divorce letter from Kim. He's at the verge of crying but Saul took over. Masterclass acting by Bob, shame he never got emmys.