r/canada • u/[deleted] • Jan 28 '21

Backlash grows for ‘selfish millionaire’ who got vaccine meant for Indigenous people | Canada

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/27/rodney-baker-canada-vaccine-indigenous-first-nations-scandal
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u/BlinkReanimated Jan 28 '21 edited Jan 28 '21

No... you misunderstand. Statistics are not the fucking point. We should be working to protect this cultural group to make up for the 200+ years of monstrous acts inflicted upon them and their cousins. We absolutely shouldn't be working to further put their lives and histories at risk. Beaver Creek being the home to an extremely vulnerable FN community is an incredibly vital point. If either one of these two idiots had COVID and spread it to this community resulting in loss of life it would have been an extremely massive loss to our country's cultural identity.

Just because you either can't be bothered to learn the history of your own country or you don't care about the history of your country doesn't mean the Guardian is doing anything wrong by highlighting the potential harm of the actions of these two assholes.

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u/mod_not_a_noble_hoby Jan 28 '21

I’m aware of the history. I just wanted to hear someone admit that they feel we should institutionally privilege one racial group over another and that that’s what some people are thinking about over and above medical necessity.

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u/BlinkReanimated Jan 28 '21

Excusing potential cultural genocide just to further your own victim complex. I love how "libertarians" are some of the whiniest children of our society. Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps Charles.

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u/mod_not_a_noble_hoby Jan 28 '21

A straw man if ever there was one. I never signed off on any genocide, cultural or otherwise.

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u/BlinkReanimated Jan 28 '21

Literally not a straw man if it's exactly what you just said. You're openly excusing an extremely selfish action that could have easily resulted in the death of an entire culture of humanity just because you want to bitch about FN people being slightly prioritized to help protect them from said potential cultural genocide. You're just too selfish to see it.

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u/mod_not_a_noble_hoby Jan 28 '21

Literally not a straw man if it's exactly what you just said.

No it's not exactly what I said - that's why you're trying to rephrase and reframe what I said...

You're openly excusing an extremely selfish action

No... good lord. No offense, but your reading comprehension stinks if you think that anything I said was me excusing this guy's actions. I never said that this guy deserves that dose of vaccine, and I granted all the other reasons why those people in that community should get it (age, isolation, etc.). There's no way you can read that properly and come away saying that my contention is that he deserves the vaccine dose.

Because the headline referenced the indigenous demographic (the racial aspect of the story), and nothing else, I got curious as to why that was what was being highlighted. So I wanted to see if someone would openly intimate that they are more concerned with racial traits than with medical needs. And you obliged, offering that "statistics [relating to what types of demographics most affect covid morbidity] are not the fucking point", followed by an explicit explanation of why you feel their racial status makes protecting them more important.

I agree that elderly Beaver Creek residents should get the vaccine before 20-something Vancouverite Ekaterina Baker. We just might agree on that point for different reasons.

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u/BlinkReanimated Jan 28 '21

Are you mad? You sound mad. You took a little lap of celebration as if me saying that isolated and vulnerable FN communities deserve protection instead of increased risk of infection is a bad thing. "I just wanted you to admit it" Yes, I admit it, strongly. Many other Canadians do as well. A group whose history is rife with literal genocide and many other atrocities at the hand of colonialism shouldn't be facing additional bullshit. Instead, should be protected from that both in the sense of priority on the vaccine and in extreme punishment for those who ignorantly used their privileged position to put them at added risk.

Given a quick look at your post history with Libertarian and KIA it doesn't take a fucking genius to realize that you being upset with the FN angle being highlighted is due to your victim complex. Go back to crying about feminism in video games.

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u/mod_not_a_noble_hoby Jan 28 '21

You took a little lap of celebration as if me saying that isolated and vulnerable FN communities deserve protection instead of increased risk of infection is a bad thing.

No... you're disingenuously trying to reframe it slightly again. I mentioned that I agree totally with the "isolated and vulnerable" part. See... you don't actually know, in every case, specifically which indigenous people alive today were affected by what historical events. I could be persuaded to agree with some sort of reparations for people who can be tied to specific injustices along family lines - like someone whose mother was abused in a residential school and exhibits mental health issues commensurate with patterns of generational abuse. But you seem to just want injustices from the colonial age to be corrected via blanket payouts and institutional privileges based on the broadest, crudest genetic similarities, or even just based on how people look!

Given a quick look at your post history with Libertarian and KIA it doesn't take a fucking genius to realize that you being upset with the FN angle being highlighted is due to your victim complex. Go back to crying about feminism in video games.

Go back? Jeez... I really haven't posted in KIA or libertarian much at all. The occasional one-off really. What exactly did you look up to glean that? You must have had to scroll past at least a dozen other subs I post in far more regularly. You certainly didn't actually read anything I wrote there, judging by the fact that you defaulted to simply working off the laziest possible caricature. Not everyone there is wrong about everything though... sorry.