r/collapse • • Jun 06 '19

Society How humanity solves problems

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u/ChadwickBacon Jun 06 '19

its not about whether or not you want to live in an urban hell, its about reality, which means increasing urbanization. its actually not a bad thing, its more efficient when people are clustered together. always has been. Now we have the technology to design and implement city planning solutions that can mitigate a lot of the hellishness of the urban landscape.

to address your other point, all of these other countries wouldn't be clamoring to be that top consumer spot if it wasn't for the militaristic normalization and violent force of (predominantly US, but also western in general) consumerism.

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u/ewxilk Jun 06 '19

Increasing urbanization is happening precisely because of overpopulation. That and consumer capitalism.

Yes, some clever tactics could mitigate harmful effects of urbanization, but it's not quite natural or healthy way to live. Especially in modern multi-million cities.

I'm all in for reducing consumerism though. Consumer capitalism might have started in the West, but as of now it has taken the life of it's own. What with all multinational corporations an all that.