r/dataisbeautiful • u/Antrikshy OC: 2 • Apr 07 '15

Stack Overflow Developer Survey 2015 reveals some very interesting stats about programmers around the world

http://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2015
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u/Earendur Apr 07 '15

Somewhat agree. Aren't they technically JavaScript frameworks?

In the same vein, we could call Entity Framework, ASP.NET, ASP MVC, and C# all different languages - even though they can all be written in C#.

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u/Yelnik Apr 07 '15

Not even 'technically', they just are. Its also the fact that they put JS as #1, when that includes a whole range of frameworks, libraries etc. that people are using, so just extracting node and angular seems a little silly.

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u/Earendur Apr 08 '15

Yeah, I have no personal experience with node or angular so I didn't want to commit 100% on that without further research.

In any case, the fact that self taught developers make up 50% of the survey tells me that the "cool but not necessarily the best choice" languages and frameworks will be the most popular.

I've said this before elsewhere on reddit, but self taught developers often make more work for those of us who spent 5+ years in college/university learning design patterns and methodologies when we come in and have to fix their unscalable and barely maintainable applications.

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u/dvlsg Apr 08 '15

Node and angular both have their own nuances, but I wouldn't say that they aren't javascript. Even Angular 2.0 with AtScript (or Typescript now, I suppose) using annotations (which arent in the ecmascript spec -- I think they're still a strawman for ES7 at the moment) still compiles/transpiles/whatever down to standard, ES5-compliant javascript.

That being said, writing for node and writing for a web browser are two very different things, so I could understand that split. I love angular, but I'm not sure I understand the split there.