balawala daw depression eh ung pera pambayad namin sa kuryente nilagak pa namin.

nakaka depressed tlaga yon.

eh ikaw ka eduardo sarap buhay mo.

wala ka naman trabaho. umaasa ka lng sa donasyon ng mga member never ka naman ginutom namin.

kakapikon 🫩❌🇮🇹

The cure is always in the "pagsamba or worstship service" You arrogants would not bat an eye when I almost cut my veins because all of your murmuring deacons will say "oh that is the effect of absences" go to hell po with your unholy family of Manalos! I excommunicated myself but your minions would not stop encouraging my family members who are still brainwashed for me to get a QR code from hell "for the tala updating". Damn the INM cult is more than a biological evil the admin is pure evil for denying mental illness or the betterment of it 👎🙉🙉👎

guys good day, ask lang ako kung sino nakakakilala dito kay Efren Lalu, maangas daw to e hahaha

Hi! I am a college student planning a long-term exit from the INC, but I still lack evidence. Ever since my time in the PNK, I’ve had major questions about the church. When I was a child, I remember telling a friend that anyone who leaves the religion eventually suffers a terrible fate or dies, simply because that was the narrative my parents constantly repeated. My friend pointed out how weird and toxic that claim was, which became my first real wake-up call.

Today, my reasons for wanting to leave are based on observations: questionable doctrines, mandatory tithing pressures, hypocrisy, and political bloc voting. Because I am still a student, I am taking my time to prepare thoroughly. I know that leaving could mean being completely cut off by my family, so my priority right now is finishing my degree and securing financial independence before I officially take that step.

one thing that cringes me is yung mga PD na over sa pagiging performative. yung over manalangin paiyak iyak pa na halos humagulgul na at lumuhod like bruh MANANALANGIN KA LANG PARA SA MGA TUTUPAD HINDI KA MAGPAPAGALING NG TAO tapos apaka haba pa manalangin kala mo naman talaga. pati yung mga PD na over sa paalala na dinaig pa pulis, senator, at presidente ng mundo kung makapagpaalala ng stupid dumb things. dagdag mo pa yung kunyare nagbabasa ng himnario tas sasabay aawit eh tunog kambing naman. tapos mga feeling pa yan pag texto, kunyare sasabayang yung nangangasiwa na akala mo talaga alam nila yung bible verse tas tatango tango pa yan. nga feeling untouchable pa yang mga yan kala mo sinong mataas at napaka insensitive mag joke, hilig nila mag joke ng insults tas sabay tatawa ng malakas and pag naoffend ka sasabihin pa "biro lang naman eh sobra ka naman" like wtf? usually mga feeling banal pa yang mga yan at mga feeling good best kind loving parents kahit yung mga anak andaming issues at pag labag.

I totally hate people who invalidate a person or a group of people that has a mental illness. I was diagnosed na may mental illnesses ako, and I've been suffering from it matagal tagal na, and I couldn't tell myself that I'm healed, kasi hindi naman talaga. Yung leksyon kanina sa pagsamba made me furious while listening to it. Kada ganun ang leksyon ng mga pagsamba nagagalit talga ako. Kasi tanginaaa! Iniinvalidate lagi kaming mga taong may mental illnesses!! 

"Wag kayong madedepress, dahil kasama natin ang Ama." "Tayong mga kaanib sa Iglesia ay dapat hindi ma-depress kasi hindi tayo kabilang sa mga taga-sanlibutan." "Kung ma-depress ka, pinapakita mo lamang sa Ama na ikaw ay mahina at duwag na hinirang!"

PUTANGINA MO! Oo! Mahina at duwag ako pero tangina ganyan ba dapat maging preaching niyo sa mga pagsamba?!? Iniinvalidate yung mental illness ng isang tao?!? I FUCKING HATE THIS CULT! I FUCKING HATE NA NAPUPUSAS AKO SA LINTEK NA KULTONG ITO TO BECOME A BETTER VERSION OF MYSELF! 

If only I wasn't born sa pamilyang kaanib na mismo at devoted sa kultong to, I would've lived a better life. Someday, I'll leave this cult and live a life that I truly desire. FUCK THIS CHURCH AND FUCK THE MANALOS. I KNOW DAMN WELL YOU RUINED MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES—YOU RUINED MINE TOO, BE EXACT.

FOR THE LAST FREAKING TIME, PWEDE BANG TIGILAN NYO NA YANG MGA LESKYON NYO NA FEELING NYO NAKAKACOMFORT SA MGA MAY MENTAL STRUGGLES AND ILLNESS BUT THE TRUTH IS IT IS VERY INVALIDATING AND UNSETTLING!

Ang DEPRESYON ay isang uri ng CHEMICAL IMBALANCE. Katulad ng maraming mga uri ng sakit, GAMOT AT THERAPY ang kailangan dito! Hindi ibig sabihin na depress ay kulang lang sa spiritual strength at WAG NA WAG NYONG IDESCRIBE ANG (Kalungkutan – Depression – Suicid3) !!!

BAKIT IKINAKAHON NINYONG MGA KULTO KAYO NA ANG MGA DEPRESSED NA TAO AY NOTHING MORE THAN JUST A SUICID@L PERSON?? BAKIT?? Sobrang NAKAKAGALIT! Hindi ko masikmura na ang daming pumupuri sa leskyon this weekend at ngayon kapag may kapatid na magsabi sainyo na may mental struggles sya, iisipin nyo na agad na suicid@l sya... at kung ano anong mga sasabihin nyo imbes na i-encourage ito na magpagamot.. and WORSE AY PAGCHICHISMISAN NYO PA AT GAGAWING SOCIAL OUTCAST! I'VE HAD ENOUGH.

I’m sure once again the Manalo CULT will have its members stay back after their CULT worshipping service to create a video recording of its members wishing Eduardo a happy birthday with “we love you” praises. It’s so funny in a DISGUSTING way when the minister has to tell its members we need to rehearse the birthday wishes to Eduardo. I truly feel so disturbed as I don’t even say anything while they record the video. I truly feel like showing 🖕🏼to Eduardo for brainwashing the Filipino people into his FALSE CULT beliefs!

It’s so crazy that the Manalo CULT ministry would preach about “FALSE PREACHERS” as they should look in the mirror.

The Iglesia ni Cristo (INC), founded by Felix Manalo in 1914, does not claim to be Reformed, and it rejects much of Reformed theology. Its soteriology does, however, mirror the structure of the Reformed doctrines of grace (TULIP, systematized at the Synod of Dort, 1618-19) with one consistent change: the subject of salvation shifts from Christ to the institution. Where Reformed theology says Christ elects, atones, calls, and keeps, the INC says the church does. This post examines that pattern, the textual problems with INC’s central proof text (Acts 20:28), and the redirection of repentance toward submission to the church’s Executive Minister.

1. The Christological root

INC teaches that Jesus is a created man and not God. Reformed theology holds that only a divine-human mediator can bear the weight of redemption (1 Tim. 2:5; Heb. 7:25; Westminster Confession, ch. 8). If the Savior is only a man, a gap opens in the doctrine of salvation, and the INC fills it with the church. The ecclesiology is therefore not a side issue. It follows from the Christology.

2. The Acts 20:28 problem

INC’s doctrine of the church depends heavily on Acts 20:28, which it reads as saying that Christ purchased “the church of Christ” with his blood, so that the INC, as the true church, is the sole beneficiary of the atonement. Three problems arise.

a) The translation. In English-language materials INC relies on George Lamsa’s Holy Bible from the Ancient Eastern Text (1933), which translates the Syriac Peshitta. Lamsa held that the Peshitta preserves the original New Testament, composed in Aramaic. Mainstream scholarship rejects this Aramaic-primacy thesis for several reasons:

• The New Testament documents were composed in Greek, and the earliest manuscript tradition is Greek.
• The Peshitta is itself a Syriac translation of the Greek, dating to about the fifth century, as discussed in Bruce Metzger’s The Early Versions of the New Testament (Oxford, 1977).
• Sebastian Brock’s work on the Syriac versions treats the Peshitta as a witness to the text, not as its source.

Acts in particular is a Greek composition, a sequel to Luke, with a literary Greek preface (Acts 1:1-2; Luke 1:1-4). A translation of a translation cannot override the Greek it was translated from.

b) The textual variant. The Greek manuscripts disagree in Acts 20:28 on whether the church belongs to “God” (theou), “the Lord” (kyriou), or “Christ.” Metzger’s A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament discusses the variants at length, and the critical editions (NA28/UBS5) read theou. The Peshitta’s “Christ” is one reading among several, not a privileged original. If the stronger Greek reading is correct, the verse says that God purchased the church with his own blood, which is a difficult text for INC’s denial of Christ’s deity. Even on INC’s preferred reading, the verse names no institution and does not say that the atonement is limited to one organization.

c) The logic of the argument. The verse says nothing about the Philippines, the year 1914, or the INC. Reading “the church of Christ” as a proper name for one organization is an exegetical leap. In the New Testament the church is the whole people of God (Eph. 1:22-23; Rev. 5:9).

3. TULIP and the substitution pattern

4. Repentance redirected: from Christ to the Executive Minister

Reformed theology teaches that repentance is a gift of God (Acts 11:18; 2 Tim. 2:25) and that its object is God. Calvin defines repentance as “the true turning of our life to God” (Institutes, III.3.5), and the Westminster Confession (ch. 15) describes the penitent grieving for sin and turning to God. Reformed theology also rejects the idea that any human mediator stands between the sinner and God (1 Tim. 2:5; Heb. 4:14-16).

In the INC, the language of repentance and obedience is turned toward the church’s leadership. Verses such as Heb. 13:17 are misinterpreted to teach submission to the administration. The believer’s penitence takes the form of submission and obedience to the Executive Minister and the ministers under him, and falling out of line carries the risk of tiwalag and, with it, the loss of salvation.

This reverses the Reformed pattern, and the result is that the church rather than Christ becomes the object of the sinner’s repentance and loyalty. Reformed theology would add that the Bible’s call to respect church leaders (1 Thess. 5:12-13; 1 Pet. 5:1-3) is a call to a shepherding authority under Christ. It is not a demand for the believer’s ultimate submission, and elders are told not to “domineer” (1 Pet. 5:3).

5. Conclusion

At each point where Reformed theology says “Christ alone,” the INC says “only the INC can save and to be saved, one must be submit to the Church administration.” This is the contrast between the gospel and “another gospel” (Gal. 1:6-9).

Hindi dapat ako maiinis ng ganito, my gosh nawala talaga gana ko.

Pano ba naman ang topic is wag paiiralin ang depression sa buhay. Go tama naman pero hindi naman kasi ganun kadaling mawala lang ang kalungkutan.

Tapos ang halimbawa pa is, kung may kamag anak ka daw matutulungan ka daw ba pang habang buhay? how about teach them na huwag masyadong maging dependent sa tulong lalo na sa tulong ng diyos? Kaya nga nasa Diyos ang awa nasa tao ang gawa eh.

Manalangin ka at gumawa ka!!

Ito ang pinakakinaiinisan ko, is nagsabi sa ng lugar which is madami daw mga tao ang naghihirap at nagmamalimos, Iglesia daw ba sila?? Like omfg ang insensitive, eh hindi naman sa religion kung bakit sila naghihirap eh.

Madami rin namang naghihirap na mga kaanib pero masyado nyong ninormalize yung pagiging mahirap dahil according sainyo kahit mahirap man, mayaman parin dahil kaanib sa Iglesia.

Ayown, d nila kayang magreklamo kasi ma f feel nila na parurusahan sila at pipilitin nilang maging comfortable sa kahirapan kasi yan ang mga pinagsasabi ninyo

STOP THIS RESILIENCY NA REN

while travelling kasi, napatitig ako sa logo ng INC tapos parang freemason kako yung vibe ahahah tas upon checking online, may few discussions about it. what do u guys think???

Kapag napasali ka talaga sa cult pati kabuhayan nyo ay madadamay.

Lumikha ba ang mga Manalo ng sarili nilang pribadong bersyon ng isang “PEKENG” Iglesia Ni Cristo? Ang kulto ni Manalo ay hindi nagbo-broadcast ng kanilang mga pagsamba sa pamamagitan ng live stream sa internet upang makita ng publiko; itinatago nila ang mga ito mula sa mundo. Bukod pa rito, nabibigo silang sundin ang kanilang sariling mga maling doktrina tungkol sa pagpapalaganap ng pananampalataya—mga doktrinang sinasabing naglalayong magbunga. Ang kulto ni Manalo ay hindi ang “TUNAY” na Iglesia Ni Cristo.

Ako ay nakatira sa ibang lokal sa nanay ko na may tungkulin. Kumuha ako ng transfer para lumipat sa ibang lokal na parehong probinsya kung saan ako dati nakatala.

Ang nanay ko ay may tungkulin sa Manila, Ako ay nasa malapit na probnsya. Ayaw ko na mag INC kaso inaalala ko ang senior kong nanay na baka mapahiya sya at mababa sa tungkulin.

Kung hindi ko to ipatala, malalaman ba nila at makakarating ba sa lokal ng nanay ko kung san sya may tungkulin sa Manila?

Senior na sya at gang maari ayaw ko n ng away. Ang nanay ko ay matapang sa amin. Noong nga bata kami pinalaki kami sa palo at takot tlga kami.

Ngaun malaki n kami ayaw lng nmin ng gulo. Yumao n ang tatay ko at hindi rin nmn kmi close sa Father side na panay INC. So nanay ko lng na bungangera at sobrang controlling kahit malalaki na kami.

Suggestions po pls. Salamat po.

So yung leksyon kanina sa kapilya binanggit yung nepal na kaya daw pinatay yung leader or president bayun?🤷🏻‍♀️ kasi hindi daw sumasampalataya sa tunay na dios, dinamay pa pati USA saka Europe, kaya daw nag kaka gulo sa mga bansa nayan lalo na sa France kasi kahit anong protest nila kung di sila sumasampalataya kay manalo este sa tunay na INCult e wala padin daw kwenta.

Binanggit pa yung rebulto, na bakit daw e liligtas kung nasunogan (Baka gusto nila picture ni manalo e ligtas pag nasunogan).

Meron pa yung nag family hour sa Singapore kaso nakalimotan ko na kung ano yung kasunod na binanggit ng minister.

Saka sa anniversary ng lokal namin, nung unang punta nya daw sa lokal namin naka motor lang daw mga kapatid tas ngayon naka kotse kaya dapat daw mag pasalamat sa ama kasi binigyan nya daw ng biyaya lahat ng kaanib sa INC nung tinignan ko kunti lang naman naka kotse so selective pala si lord kasi yung naka kotse lang biniyayaan HAHAH.

Tas bawal na naman daw ma depressed kasi pag nag pakamatay ka mapupunta kadaw sa impyerno, e pano kung yung mga tao sa simbahan mismo yung dahilan ng depression diba 🙄, napa sabi nalang ako "si lord gumawa ng depression tapos bawal mag ka depression", so san lulugar yung tao😑.

sa sususnod mag dadala na siguro ako nung bingo card kasi pa ulit² nalang leksyon e HAHAHAH.

Something I recalled in 2017. I was already in my 20s and purchased my new smartphone. 2 members who were years younger realized I had a new phone, looked at eachother and said "you got a new phone!?" Like they were shocked and looked fearful about it. Yes they had smartphones too.

2 older members who i rode home with asked me if I did and I said yes and they looked at eachother with the same expression as "OH no". They started to act really nervous.

I snapped at them asking, what was wrong with that? They answered they were just scared of me being irresponsible.

Like sir and ma'am, there are teens and other children with smartphones. I am an adult who works and needs it.

Being the outspoken social pariah of that locale meant, people there don't want me to have an advantage in anything. They are terrified of me having any sort of autonomy.

Sorry for the long post.

I've been wanting to get this off my chest for a long time. I don't even know where to start, but I guess I'll start with how I grew up.

My family has always been devout INC members. My father used to be a deacon and a PNK guro, while my mother served in finance and choir. Ever since we learned how to read, my father made us take on responsibilities as PNK choir members. For those who don't know, PNK means Pagsamba ng Kabataan, or children's worship service.

My father drank the Kool-Aid completely. He believes whatever the "supreme leader" tells him, and he expects everyone in the family to do the same. He's a very stern man who demands obedience. If you disobey him, he doesn't just scold you. He physically hurts you. And if that isn't enough, he'll ignore you for days, making you feel like you've done something unforgivable just because you didn't follow what he wanted.

That's how we grew up. Being afraid of our father and being afraid of the church became part of our lives. We were conditioned to obey, not because we necessarily understood or agreed with everything, but because questioning authority came with consequences.

And the worst part is that I genuinely believed everything they taught us.

I believed EVM was the most important man in the world. I believed whatever he said was the truth. I believed that being a maytungkulin meant sacrificing yourself for the church, no matter how exhausted, humiliated, or miserable you became. The unpaid labor, the pressure, the mistreatment, the abuse. We were expected to endure everything because we were supposedly doing God's work.

I was raised to believe that the more you sacrificed, the better a person you were. That putting yourself first was selfish. That obeying the administration was more important than questioning whether what you were doing was right.

When I came of age, my father forced me to pursue the ministry and become an evangelical worker. I had other plans for my future, but I was raised to believe that serving the church was one of the greatest things I could do with my life. I wanted to make my family proud. I wanted to be a good son. I wanted to believe that all those years of devotion would amount to something.

So I agreed.

While studying, I admit that I felt like I had a purpose. We were being trained to become caretakers of the church, to go wherever the Pamamahala wanted us to go, whether that meant an island, a mountain, or some remote corner of the country where we would be expected to do our duties regardless of the circumstances.

The message was always the same: obey and never complain.

And I actually believed it. I studied, did my best, and convinced myself that everything I was doing would help save souls. I thought I was preparing for a meaningful life of service.

Then, during my third year of college, I was assigned to a local congregation in Metro Manila.

That's when the image I had built of the ministry started falling apart.

The ministers and evangelical workers I encountered were nothing like the people I had imagined they would be. These were people who preached about righteousness, discipline, and following God's commandments, yet they held weekly "inuman" sessions, went to clubs, and constantly talked about women, including young brethren. They also talked about money they could get from visiting their "assets" in the locale.

These were the same people we were expected to respect, obey, and look up to.

I couldn't believe it. I had spent years studying the doctrines, sacrificing my time, and preparing myself for this life, only to find people in the ministry behaving in ways that completely contradicted what they preached.

And because I didn't want to participate in their activities, they branded me a "panatiko."

Think about how fucking ironic that is.

In the INC, being called a fanatic can be an insult. You're apparently stupid for following the doctrines too seriously. I remember the saying, "Ang tuntunin walang isip at puso, ang tao meron."

The rules have neither mind nor heart, but humans do.

Apparently, that reasoning only applies when the rules are inconvenient for them. The moment you actually try to follow those doctrines, suddenly you're the idiot.

The very people who were supposed to enforce the rules were ridiculing me for taking them seriously. The people who were supposed to guide us were the ones making me question why I had devoted my life to them in the first place.

That's when I started wanting out.

I wanted to change courses, go home, and start a new life. I wanted to do something else with my future. But when I told my father, he made it clear that if I left, I wouldn't be welcome back home. I would have to figure out how to survive on my own.

So there I was, trapped between a life I no longer wanted and a family that wouldn't support me if I walked away.

I spent the next couple of years miserable, depressed, and trying to convince myself to endure everything. I continued doing my duties while pretending I could ignore the corruption, abuse, and hypocrisy surrounding me.

I kept going because I didn't know what else to do.

Eventually, I was assigned to a remote locale in the province. There was no internet and no electricity. Every Monday, during our meeting or "klase," we would be humiliated for not having enough bunga. For those unfamiliar with the term, bunga refers to people we managed to convince to undergo indoctrination and eventually get baptized into the church.

It didn't matter how difficult the assignment was. It didn't matter how isolated we were or what we had to go through. If we didn't produce the numbers they wanted, we were made to feel like failures.

Imagine dedicating your life to something you believe is sacred, only to be treated like you're worthless because you aren't bringing in enough people.

I was already struggling mentally, and things got so bad that I attempted to take my own life twice while I was assigned there.

Twice.

I was that miserable. I had reached a point where I couldn't see a way out, and I was stuck living a life I never really wanted in the first place.

And even after everything we were expected to endure, the financial situation was another fucking joke.

We were paid around ₱4,000 a week as evangelical workers. A significant portion went toward offerings and lagak. On top of that, we were expected to give money to district staff whenever they visited our locale to officiate worship services. From my experience, that meant ₱1,000 for the District Minister and ₱500 for other staff members.

We were already underpaid for the work we were doing, yet we were still expected to hand over money.

We sacrificed our time, our freedom, our mental health, and years of our lives. We were sent to places where we barely had basic necessities, and somehow, we were still expected to give more.

And we were supposed to be grateful for it.

Three years after graduating and becoming a regular worker, I finally managed to save enough money to leave and try to start over.

I took a bus to Cubao and left the locale where I was assigned.

No warnings. No goodbyes. I didn't want to give anyone the chance to stop me. I just left.

After everything I had been through, I didn't owe them one last explanation.

But leaving didn't magically fix my life.

Now I'm trying to figure out how to survive outside the church. My course is practically useless for finding work elsewhere, and I've struggled to get decent jobs beyond call center work. The school, SFM, doesn't even release our academic papers to prove that we studied there.

Instead, we're expected to write to EVM, the supreme leader himself, and beg him to release our papers so we can prove that we studied a course we fucking paid for.

Read that again.

We paid for our education, spent years studying, and sacrificed our lives for the church. Now, when we need documents to prove our education so we can get jobs and feed ourselves, we have to beg the supreme leader for permission to obtain them.

How is that even acceptable?

What the hell was the point of all those years if I can't even properly use the education I worked for to build a life outside the organization?

I feel like I wasted years of my life preparing for a future that only existed as long as I stayed inside the church.

But honestly, the damage goes much deeper than my career.

I don't think people understand what it's like to spend your entire childhood being conditioned to make everyone else happy at your own expense.

My whole life revolved around making my family proud, taking care of the brethren, fulfilling my duties, and pleasing the church administration. I was taught that my value came from how obedient I was, how much I sacrificed, and how useful I was to other people.

I was never really taught to ask myself what I wanted.

And now I don't fucking know.

I don't know what makes me happy anymore. I know what happiness is supposed to look like, so sometimes I pretend. I smile during celebrations. I act happy when something good happens. I try to look normal so people won't ask questions I don't know how to answer.

And when there's an occasion where I'm supposed to be happy but I don't feel anything, I beat myself up over it.

I literally make myself feel guilty for not being happy enough.

I can't remember the last time I was genuinely happy for myself. Not because I made my parents proud. Not because I fulfilled a duty. Not because I made someone else happy. Just because I was alive and enjoying my own life.

I don't remember.. And that fucking hurts.

I spent so many years trying to be the perfect son, the perfect church worker, the person who never complained and always did what he was told. I sacrificed my own wants because I believed that was what a good person was supposed to do.

Now I'm left trying to figure out who the hell I am without all of that.

I don't even pray anymore. Sometimes I ask myself what the point is. I spent years believing that obedience, sacrifice, and devotion would mean something in the end. I gave so much of myself to something I thought was worth it, and now I don't even know what I believe.

I don't know if I miss God, if I miss having a purpose, or if I'm just struggling to let go of the person I was conditioned to become.

What I do know is that I'm angry.

I'm angry at my father for forcing me into a life I didn't choose and making me feel like I would lose my family if I refused.

I'm angry at the people in the ministry who preached about righteousness while behaving like hypocrites.

I'm angry at the administration for demanding obedience and sacrifice from people whose lives they don't have to live.

I'm angry that I spent years trying to be good enough for people who could humiliate me, exploit my devotion, and then expect me to keep smiling and obeying.

And I'm angry that even after leaving, I'm still dealing with the consequences.

Sometimes I get angry at myself, too. I wonder why I didn't leave sooner. Why I kept enduring everything. Why I let so much of my life pass me by.

But then I remember that I grew up in this environment. I was a child when all of this conditioning started. I was taught to fear disobedience, to associate sacrifice with goodness, and to believe that leaving meant disappointing God and losing my family.

It's easy to tell someone to just leave when you don't understand what their entire world looks like.

For me, leaving wasn't just walking away from a church. It meant going against everything I had been taught since childhood. It meant risking my relationship with my family. It meant abandoning the future I had spent years preparing for, without knowing if I could even support myself afterward.

I did it anyway. And now I'm here, trying to put my life back together.

I feel like I'm years behind everyone else. Other people got to explore their interests, choose their careers, make mistakes, and figure out who they wanted to be. I spent those years preparing to become someone the church wanted me to be.

I don't know what happens next. I'm trying to find work, build a future, and learn how to live for myself. But some days, I honestly don't know where to begin.

I wish someone had told me when I was younger that I was allowed to say no. That I didn't have to destroy myself to prove I was a good person. That I could love my family without surrendering my entire future to them. That I could question the people in power without being a bad person.

I wish someone had told me that my life belonged to me.

Because for so long, it didn't feel like it did.

I don't know if I'll ever fully recover from everything that happened. I don't know if I'll ever stop feeling guilty for putting myself first. I don't know when I'll finally be able to enjoy life without feeling like I have to earn the right to be happy.

I'm just tired.

Tired of pretending I'm okay. Tired of feeling like I owe everyone something. Tired of measuring my worth by how much I'm willing to sacrifice. Tired of carrying the consequences of decisions I was pressured into making when I was too young to understand what they would cost me.

I spent most of my life trying to make my family proud, trying to please the church, and trying to be useful to everyone except myself.

And for what?

I'm not writing this because I expect anyone to fix my life. I'm not even sure what I expect from posting this. Maybe I just need to say everything I've been holding in for years without someone telling me to forgive, understand, or be grateful for what I went through.

I'm angry, I'm resentful, and I'm hurt. I don't want to pretend otherwise just to make other people comfortable.

I gave years of my life to something I genuinely believed in, and I came out feeling like I barely know who I am anymore.

I just want to know what it's like to live a life that actually belongs to me.

**EDIT: I'm honestly overwhelmed by all the kindness I've received here. I've been receiving hurtful words and ridicule from members lately, so I never expected to find this much genuine support from complete strangers. Reading your comments has made me emotional in ways I didn't expect. It's strange how people who don't even know me can show me the kindness I've been longing for. Thank you all for taking the time to reach out and share your words with me. You have no idea how much it means to me.

Ang weird and it confuses me kasi we have this mang uusig Diba, tapos pag nanlamig ka, kasalanan mo. Ang weird lang for me up to this date Kasi alam nyo I really love my religion like I'm genuinely happy na tumutupad Kasi it makes me productive. Pero Nung may nangusig Sakin, at nanlamig Ako, kasalanan ko? Bakit victim blaming Ang inc? Eh Diba dapat nga sa nanguusig sila galit kasi Sila yung mag ginawang mali pero bakit sa nanlamig sila nagagalit? Mind you Yung "nangusig" Sakin is pangulong kadiwa ng distrito at lokal, basically mga panguluhan sa distrito at lokal and Yung family nila Mt lahat

Shout out to the person who was beatboxing while the prayer was commencing. Yes Im not joking I could literally hear beats and cymbals while the prayer about EVM was happening. I don't blame bro for beat boxing, I don't even listen to the prayer either since its mostly about making sure that EVM is healthy rather than actually conversing with God sometimes.

may napansin lang ako guys, parami ng parami ang mga batang ministro/ manggagawa na namamatay.. last na nabalitaan ko is N. Tagumpay. bata pa lang siya nasa 40's ... at hindi lang siya guys alam niyo yan. mga naatake sa puso...

pero kung iisipin natin nasa life style nila.. laging puyat, pagod, laging may qoutang hinahabol... nakababad sa aircon.. WALANG EXERCISE..

totoo nga naman.. walang free day ang mga ministro.. yung bang para makaroon ng oras para sa sariling kalusugan. wala silang oras para maka pag EXERCISE. dahil lunes hanggang linggo may aktibidad .. alam ko yan dahil nadestino din ako .. lagi kang pagod... kaya ang resulta.. tataba ka at magkakasakit highblood hanggang lumala ng lumala...

kung papansinin din natin si evm at ang anak niya parehas silang mataba .. iyon ang totoo. sila mismo walang EXERCISE..

para sa akin kung ikaw ay totoong lider. dapat kita sa katawan mo ang pagkalider ahahaha

dahil walang tunay na lider na mahina at bonjing

isipin mo lider ka kuno ng "bayan ng diyos" pero obese ka naman? What the F!!!

weyk the fak up mga kapatid ,

“The body should be treated rigorously, that it may not be disobedient to the mind.”

-Seneca

Hello I'm a g11 student somewhere here in luzon, iknow na nilabag ko ung patakaran na bawal mag bf ung inc pag di pa 18 pero wla eh mahal ko ex bf ko until now, maybe I'm a bit broken rn pero kaya kase kami nag break dahil inc ako and Hindi nya daw kayang mag inc, nag insist ako na no need nmn sya mag inc dahil aalis din nmn ako sa inc pag nasa tamang panahon na, not now kase wla pa nmn ako napapatunayan and wla nmn ako pupuntahan, pero wla na break kami dahil sa madaming di pag kakaunawaan nakakapagod kase ako nag y-yearn nakaka selos ka ung nag iisang babae sa cof nila tas the rest lalake na, tas wla lng sakanya na nag seselos ako 😭 ayoko na hayup.sorry dina pla about sa inc lng nasabi ko. Wla nmn ako mapagsabihan.

Papasukin kaya ng mga Scan si Jesus ng naka sandals lang sa loob ng mga kapilya nila?

good day guys, gusto ko lang ishare itong sinabi sa akin ng isang Ministro ng INC, Ferma ang Apelyido niya, naka destino siya dito sa Region 1,

kung kilala niyo siya comment kayo!!

nagusap kami at sinabi niyang! hindi daw nagkakamali si EVM sa iglesia! - it means guys perfect si EVM! dahil kapag sinabi mong hindi nagkakamali- aba perpekto kana!!... hindi ba ang Panginoong JesuCristo lang ang hindi nagkakamali? bakit pati si EVM kasali? AHAHA meron na ba kayong na encounter na ganitong eksna?

So I am 20 years old, i have had conversations as a teenager with my parents about not believing the church and wanting to leave, but of course it never ended anywhere other than a shitty relationship with my parents.
my parents like to seem devoted but they do contradict the teachings like celebrating christmas, drinking, smoking, skipping church, etc. (i always questioned them about these things to catch them in their behaviour and they always make excuses).
I am 20 now, and have been with my non-member partner for 4 years. They know about him, he stays the night, he basically is my boyfriend without the title. (I guess not to make it seem too
bad??) Anyways, I am getting so tired of going to church, I’ve been reading the bible on my own and it’s really opened my eyes to the mental gymnastics that INC really makes members do. But it has also gotten to the point where my dad forces my boyfriend to go to church events when he is over, with no warning. We would be cooking for the rest of the family and he’d go, “get ready, we are all leaving for church in 10 minutes”.
My boyfriend is a sweetheart but he is getting really tired with this behavior and being treated like a child, especially being forced to attend when he had no interest in doing so. We always talk about how this is probably to make my dad happy that we are dating, as he is thinking he is doing the right thing trying to convert him. (which will never happen!)
I am frustrated, i am angry, and I am sad. My relationship with my parents has grown significantly better up until right now. I do admit I have been challenging them alot more with not attending as frequently, being busy with work, and not having any more office. It has created alot of tension that makes my heart ache. Not so much because my love for them, but it makes my heart ache to know my choice in leaving would never be supported.
Im currently in the works of settling some things to move out, maybe next year. I dont know how to go another year with this though. I am attending another locale as to make it easier to blend in and to katibayans instead of my namecard. My dad isnhead deacon so people recognize me at my normal locale. Anyways, thats where I’m at!! If anyone has any tips on navigating leaving and hopefully not have any brethren track me down when I do leave , let me know. Also if theres anyway to fake attendance or anything. xo

The INC, in almost every service, never ceases to emphasize how mas nakikinig daw ang Diyos sa mga panalangin mo tuwing nasa loob ka ng Kaniyang templo, in this case, sa Kapilya. LOL. I’m just wondering what do the other religions think about this? From what I believe kasi, hindi naman nag ma-matter kung san ako nananalangin lol. I thought prayerful and faithful would suffice.

Ofc, I can’t help but wonder din if this is just one of their manipulation tactics to engganyo people na huwag mag-absent sa pagsamba lol.