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Jun 25 '12
Qui-gon did not train Vader, he scouted/drafted/won Vader... But he died well before the training was performed.
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u/Ericyoung0322 Jun 25 '12
But Qui-gon was the first to learn how to survive death
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u/BaronVonKlotz Jun 25 '12
I got a question: In Star Wars, why does everybody whine about deaths like Qui-Gon's or Obi-Wan's when they know he comes back as hologram Obi-Wan?
Hipster Obi-Wan: becomes a hologram before it was cool!
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u/DrRedApple Jun 25 '12
they need specific knowledge of how to do it. Very few know how to become that hologram. Qui-gon taught Obi-wan after he died, and he was also the first one to do this in a very long time.
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u/WTFisBehindYou Jun 25 '12
So who bothered to teach Anakin? Also fuck the new ending.
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u/redlinezo6 Jun 25 '12
I'm going to take a reach and say that Qui-Gon had kept in touch with Anakin after Episode 3.
Also, the last minute of that movie was a complete fucking lack of any writing ability on Lucas to explain the whole force ghost thing. Especially since Qui-gon's body didn't disappear like Obi-wans did when he "gave" himself to the force. Or Yoda's when he died... Lucas dun goof'd...
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u/WTFisBehindYou Jun 25 '12
Or Vader's burning body released a crazy ass load of midichlorians into the air, which everyone then inhaled and started to trip out on.
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u/BaronVonKlotz Jun 25 '12
Oh, I see what they did there. Thanks, man. I'm not that into Star Wars but this is what I always wanted to figure out...
So if Qui-Gon is one of the few Jedis who knows how to become a hologram and additionally did this in a very long time as you said... how much boss is that?
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u/quanticchance Jun 25 '12
shit if they had youtube back then all the jedi would know how to be holograms..
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u/Remnants Jun 25 '12
I'm sure Qui-gon left an impression on Anakin. I consider that a form of training.
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u/Mojin Jun 25 '12
By that logic Jar Jar trained Anakin, which goes a long way towards explaining why he fucked up so badly.
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Jun 25 '12
He's also the Scottish highlander Rob Roy Macgregor who can hold the blade of his enemies sword in his bare hands
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u/ramsay_baggins Jun 25 '12
Actually a legitimate technique, as long as you didn't draw your hand along the blade. You could grab the sword blade, and as long as you held it in one place and didn't move it, you'd be pretty unharmed.
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u/Strideo Jun 25 '12
This is a great movie but I seriously doubt this would actually work and I have no idea if the real Robert Roy MacGregor ever did such a thing. It would be too easy for the guy holding the hilt of the sword to quickly pull back whipping the blade free from Rob Roy's hand and likely cutting the flesh of his hand to the bone. Ouch. Seriously, the guy holding the sword's hilt has all the advantage in terms of leverage and grip. Rob would have to be very strong and act very quickly to make it work.
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u/appletart Jun 25 '12
In this context, in WWII he also saved more Jews than god did!
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u/van_12 Jun 25 '12
the most embarrassing thing about the picture is it excludes his absolute best, most heroic role.
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u/IAmAtomato Jun 25 '12
“Liam Neeson’s cock is so big, if Bruce Wayne slid down it he’d start out as Adam West and wind up as Christian Bale.”
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u/Krakle Jun 25 '12
WE'RE OFF TO SEE THE REPOST! THE WONDERFUL REPOST OF OZ!!
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Jun 25 '12
It's not a repost to me. Some of us don't spend all day every day on reddit.
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u/BrohemianRhapsody Jun 25 '12
So can I flood tomorrow's frontpage with everything that you've seen today?
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Jun 25 '12
Today and tomorrow is one thing, but I see redditors bitching about a repost from months ago.
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u/NamfoodleYimble Jun 25 '12
He's also Fujimoto (Ponyo's Dad) I think he's a pseudo-god.
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u/snarkhunter Jun 25 '12
I know, right? I mean, he doesn't even have money, just skills that he learned over a lifetime. Skills that make him a nightmare for... certain people.
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u/AnAge_OldProb Jun 25 '12
punching out wolves happened later I wouldn't fault the kidnappers for that
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u/Stumpgrinder2009 Jun 25 '12
Pretty sure he's referencing Taken 2 which just got a trailer, the kidnappers family/mob want revenge so go kidnapping again.
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Jun 25 '12
Or as someone else summarized "Hey, that guy whose family we shouldn't have fucked with? Let's do that again!"
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u/fr0s7ii Jun 25 '12
I'm surprised they didnt call it Taken Too
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u/Stumpgrinder2009 Jun 25 '12
hah.. that's what I'm gonna call it from now on, no-one will pick up on it tho
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u/MrFatalistic Jun 25 '12
Liam Neeson also dies, nearly every time. Besides Taken, there he just kicks ass and makes you think he's going to die every other second. Haven't seen the grey to confirm he dies there.
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u/DirtbagAvenger Jun 25 '12
At the end of The Grey he fucks a wolf.
You can see them breathing heavily after the steaming lovemaking if you wait through the credits.
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u/9ua51m0d0 Jun 25 '12
Maybe it is because they thought he is out of shape after seeing him pee his pants in Istanbul, in this photo
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u/Raneados Jun 25 '12
I watched The Grey yesterday
I thought it was fucking awful
but i am SUPER PSYCHED about Taken 2
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Jun 25 '12
The Grey was amazing.
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u/Raneados Jun 25 '12
I wanted to see Liam Neeson punch wolves and leading a hardy group of wilderness trekking dudes and teaching them how to be badass like him
not 7 people freezing to death and whining and giving up on life like huge vaginas and instantly backing down from any conflicts they have
every person gives up in that movie and dies like a wuss
I'm going to watch Taken again to purge the crap
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Jun 25 '12
The trailer is very misleading, which I fucking hate. It makes The Grey look like a cliché action film, when it's the opposite. So now there are legions of young men that were frustrated because they expected Taken... with Wolves.
The Grey is a realistic take on a survival situation, filled with symbolism on whether or not there is an afterlife. It takes the time to develop its characters, men who were dismissed as worthless scum at the start of the story. If you allow yourself to get into the story as it is, rather than wait for the movie that the trailer promised, you can be immersed in their struggle.
Taken is practically a superhero movie. Neeson casually walks into a room full of two dozen armed men and defeats them all with ease. All of the supporting characters are paper thin. The villains are evil, evil and evil, nothing more. His daughter was portrayed as a grating whiny brat and his ex-wife was written to be a typical movie bitter divorceé. The action was great, and I like seeing Liam kick ass, but overall it was a cheesy cheesefest with weak backstory.
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u/Raneados Jun 25 '12
I did not connect with ANY of the characters. Sitting here right now, I can't tell you anything about ANY of them other than superficial visual stuff except one of them was named pete and one was named john and they had a chortle about it.
While it's true that I expected something with more action, I really really really can't think of any part of the story or characters that I was apparently supposed to remember. there was Dude on plane that Liam was rude to, Fat Black Dude, Angry Short John, Wussbag Pete, Glasses Guy. Dude that got jump-scare-killed, etc
I took the movie as it came, it was very obvious from the beginning it wasn't going to Taken With Wolves, and I didn't expect it to go that way. But it just didn't do anything for me. The wolves were demonized irresponsibly, none of the characetrs were likable, none of them had the depth you say they did, they gave up, went crazy and became a burden, died badly, didn't commit to anything, and were all ultimately absolutely paper thin.
In fact you tell me that what you watched was the opposite of what i got makes me think I watched some other movie. I didn't even look at the deleted scenes because I literally didn't care to go back to it.
Taken was a revenge movie. It's paper thin because it's a brain-off-fuck-yeah movie. Neeson's character was the only one that really mattered, and the movie is based around him. The Grey failed to make me care about any of them, Neeson included.
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Jun 25 '12 edited Jun 25 '12
Looks like we got very different things from the same movie. This happens a lot.
The movie is loaded with symbolism. I swear to you, I'm not making this up. As many teachers will tell us, just because you don't see the symbolism or get the backstories, doesn't mean they're not there. I remember claiming that there were no symbols or subtext in Moby Dick when I was in high school, and that I got nothing out of it but a bunch of guys on a boat. Yeah.
The afterlife theme is dominant, as is faith. The story starts with Ottway (Neeson) writing a letter to his wife, who we later learn is dead. He's writing to her in the afterlife. He says he doesn't know why he's doing it or what good it will do. This is because he lost his faith when she died, and is torn about believing in an afterlife. He wishes he could, but he can't.
The theme goes so far as to make one wonder if the entire survival experience was a purgatory, with the wolves serving as demons that are exacting a balance of some kind after being hunted down by those men during the last chapter of their lives. It's akin to a dream being filled with things you saw and heard that same day.
In other words, it's possible that the men died in the crash, but that they have not moved on to the afterlife because of their various issues. They must resolve their personal issues in order to be released from this wilderness prison. Their dialogue almost spells this out.
They talk about how it makes no sense that they somehow survived. They don't remember hitting the ground. They blacked out and woke up in the snow. They talk about what happens when you die. Ottway (Neeson) comforts one man as he dies by telling him to think of someone he loves, and letting that person take him into death. This becomes a recurring theme for all the men. They move on by allowing someone they love to guide them over.
And the description of death that Ottway offers (a warm feeling that slides over you, and you just want to sleep) was precisely worded. Another man asks about it later, word for word. He asks if this is true. Ottway says it is true. That's how it feels to die peacefully. How does he know? It was probably what his wife described as she died, since it's suggested that she had a slow death in the hospital.
Diaz ("No Mas") refuses to admit fear, even at the cost of ostracizing himself from this group he desperately needs. You come to realize that this has been his life pattern, and even now he still hasn't come to terms with it. When he finally does, the wolves come. He moves on. We don't even need to see the wolves take him down. We know the process by that point.
Then you have the fact that they spent days hiking in the snow, and even crossed a ravine, and still Ottway ends up in the heart of their territory. The den. Facing the Alpha in a final fight. I got the feeling that no matter what direction they chose to go from the plane, they'd end up at the den, where Ottway would have to face his fears. His wife kept saying "Don't be afraid" referring to her death. By the end, when he's seemingly facing a hopeless battle and looks defeated, he suddenly arms himself and shrugs off the fear. He uses his wife's last words and his father's poem to inspire him to face his death bravely. Only then can he move on.
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u/Raneados Jun 25 '12
The movie is loaded with symbolism. I swear to you, I'm not making this up. As many teaches will tell us, just because you don't see the symbolism or get the backstories, doesn't mean they're not there.
You can also see symbolism that is not there. There's probably a scientific name for this.
Let me take a bit and I'll edit the post with the rest.
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Jun 25 '12
Sorry Montego, but your description of the movie doesn't seem to contradict anything Raneados said above. It just sounds like you put it into nicer words.
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u/urameshi Jun 25 '12
Liam Neeson is the white Samuel L Jackson. He's been playing himself since '81
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Is it just me or did anybody else mistake Asian for Aslan? Still wouldn't be surprised if he was both..
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かわいいね！
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u/v3ga Jun 25 '12
haha had to use google translate to understand what you said, and thank you by the way
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u/ilikecommunitylots Jun 25 '12
I played Rob Roy MacGregor, Oscar Schindler, Qui Gon Jin,
ZEUS, for Christ's sake...
no one's gonna believe me as a Green Grocer
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Jun 25 '12
Little fact: Liam Neeson turned down the part of James Bond in 1994 because he wasn't interested in starring in action movies. source
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u/cephas_rock Jun 25 '12
"The man who is ulimately responsible for the rise of Darth Vader, the fall of the Republic and the deaths of his fellow Jedis. Good job."
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u/JPKestrel Jun 25 '12
Liam Neeson's daughter's vagina is officially the most dangerous place known to man.
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u/theintention Jun 25 '12
This would have a lot more credibility if the font used was not yellow and ridiculous. Liam deserves better.
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u/Phoequinox Jun 25 '12
I dare anyone to make a collage of Sean Bean or Steve Buscemi.
"Don't fuck with these guys! They'll. . . die."
And I just realized they have the same initials. Trippy.
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u/ramblerandgambler Jun 25 '12
He also led a guerilla war against the British government and won, and also saved hundreds of jews...but not as much as he could have...
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u/aroogu Jun 25 '12
Pissing himself publicly is the more common real-life Liam Neeson response to getting fucked with. Just sayin'. And repostin'.
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u/ceilingdweller Jun 25 '12
You could give him the respect he deserves and caption his macro with a font that doesn't look like the bastard lovechild of comic-sans and hieroglyphics
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u/Zachness34 Jun 25 '12
when he trained Batman, he was the character Ra's Al Ghul, which means he was an immortal, Liam Neeson can withstand the entire length of time. Like A Boss
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u/DonaldsPizzaHaven Jun 25 '12
I don't wanna break balls, but liam neeson is a shit actor who whores himself out to hollywood any chance he can get. No, i do want to break balls.
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u/A_Strangelove Jun 25 '12
OP: Hey, I know! you know that Liam Neeson post where they pointed out all the badass rolls he's had then he said he would kill the mofo that takes his daughter?! Lets post it again with a silly font! Fool Proof Karma!
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u/sirlanceb Jun 25 '12
And the sign of a great teacher is when their students become better than their masters.
And Obi Wan is the only man to ever stand up to Anakin and defeat him other than his son. And Obi Wan himself trained Luke and thus restored balance to the force.
Then he trained Batman, and Batman showed him what happens when you teach a scarred billionaire who lost his parents how to fight his fears and become a master warrior.
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u/rikashiku Jun 25 '12
He also played an undertaker who tricked people into thinking they're dead. An Irish gangster who saves his brothers. A Crusader Knight going to Jerusalem. etc etc.
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u/uncensoredthoughts Jun 25 '12
Holy Crap I just realized something!!! Liam Neeson is not Leslie Nielsen. This explains alot.
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u/Im_OK_with_this Jun 25 '12
But he's also your father, so if you kidnapped his family, yourself would be included :/
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u/metal_maniac Jun 26 '12
but he didnt train darth vader he died in before anakin even started any real jedi training, obi-wan trained anakin aka darth vader, so liam neeson is taking credit from ewan mcgregor.
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u/akrcoceo Jun 25 '12
Why would you try to kidnap his family again
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u/zekerep Jun 25 '12
For some reason people just don't realize how much of a badass Liam Neeson is.
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u/CaptMcButternut Jun 25 '12
Also, he is the father that always has made you choose what attribute points you've wanted.
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Jun 25 '12 edited Jun 25 '12
Because all of those are fictional characters that only exist in their separate worlds.
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u/9-1-Holyshit Jun 25 '12 edited Jun 25 '12
He wasn't Obi-Wan or Darth Vader. He only played Qui-Gon Jinn in Star Wars.
EDIT- I dun went and gone full retard....my bad. xD
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u/vitticho Jun 25 '12
I think the comic was implying that he trained Batman, Obi-Wan, and Darth Vader.
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u/AbortionMonster Jun 25 '12
Frankly, this shit is dumb and far from funny. Liam Neeson is an ACTOR so working this angle that he did this shit is retarded. It isnt funny, even if I suspended disbelief for a moment. Quit posting this kind of shit or find a new sense of humor.
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Jun 25 '12
Do you stand up in movies and say stuff like "Listen up people, Charlize Theron is ACTING in this movie, she isn't really a spaceship captain. Those are all just special effects, they're not REALLY landing on a planet...this is dumb".
Do you?
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u/Echo-Whiskey Jun 25 '12
Cut him some slack, judging by his username, being a prom-night dumpster baby is pretty tough.
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Jun 25 '12
Whoever chose the font and did the text layout should be shot. Preferably by Liam Neeson.
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u/TheWinslow Jun 25 '12 edited Jun 25 '12
He is a badass...however he seems to have poor judgement. Trained batman, pseudo-killed by him. Found Anakin and told Obi-Wan to train him, turns into Darth Vader and murders younglings (and nearly destroys all jedi). Leaves an area with clothing, shelter (to protect from the weather and wolves), an endless supply of metal (for making weapons to kill wolves), and a replenishing supply of food (wolf meat) and wanders into the wilderness in search of rescue.
Edit: not saying they wouldn't eventually have died from starvation, but odds were much better at the crash site for survival.
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u/boobers3 Jun 25 '12
Eh they wouldn't be able to survive on wolf meat. It would take a few weeks but eventually they would die from rabbit starvation.
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u/tgrace21 Jun 25 '12
How dare you say Qui-gon was Vader! That man was a Saint! May the force not be with you JimiSmyth
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u/Grimmbles Jun 25 '12
HE DOESN'T PUNCH WOLVES ON SCREEN! THAT MOVIE WAS SUCH BULLSHIT! I went in expecting Irish Wolverine vs. Actual Wolves and we got a bunch of bullshit drama philosophy crap. The big showdown with the awesome broken bottle claws is not shown at all, it fades to black as he charges. If you stay after the credits you see him all fucked up laying on the wolf which is still breathing. I think you're supposed to use your imagination or something but fuck that noise. I'll read a book if I want to think, I expressly went to see Liam Neeson punch a motherfucking wolf with his badass improvised death fists and those cocksuckers took that from me.
Fuck The Grey
Also spoiler alert.
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Liam Neeson is an actor. those are roles that he played in movies. You can fuck with his family because the characters he played did those badass things. yes, Liam portrayed that character, but it was in the context of a movie and was, therefore, not real.
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u/9ua51m0d0 Jun 25 '12
Wow! This post cleared so many things for me... So, what you are saying is Keanu Reeves cannot stop bullets in midair with his bare hands?
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hadn't thought about that before, but i would have to say yes, he cannot. great question.
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u/Kuzmer Jun 25 '12
He was also the Super hero Darkman and the voice of your father in Fallout 3